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Winner gets to be apprentice to Darth Sidious.

To the death, no messing around.

Canon feats only.

Dooku unless Savage is blood-lusted hard-core

Seems like a thread with a decisive winner in my eyes.

Did someone hack Carth's account?

Savage got dis

^ How?

IMO Dooku stomps. Not sure how Savage could win.

Nah Dooku is outmatched.

Dooku SLAUGHTERHOUSE's?

Dooku wins, lol.

The only way in which Savage could have a chance is if he's bloodlusted as ****. If he's not, he's going down hard.

Dooku.

We've never really seen a pissed off Dooku have we?

He always seems to be messing with his foes.

Tyranus, definitely.

Originally posted by Azronger
^ How?

IMO Dooku stomps. Not sure how Savage could win. I think it's pretty likely that Savage can block lightning and we see what happens when he lands a good hit. Doesn't hurt that since their fight Savage's power is growing by the day, as sensed by Dooku himself across the galaxy.

I mean realistically Savage would never beat Dooku but I like making the case.

In a 1v1, Dooku with me every time, even if Savage gets blood lusted.

Originally posted by ILS
I think it's pretty likely that Savage can block lightning and we see what happens when he lands a good hit. Doesn't hurt that since their fight Savage's power is growing by the day, as sensed by Dooku himself across the galaxy.

I mean realistically Savage would never beat Dooku but I like making the case.

How can Savage block lightning, when even Maul can't?

oppress force blasted kenobi+anakin. Kenobi become a forc eghost like yoda so he =yoda. Sidious said anakin will becomemore powerful than yoda +sidious so anakin>yoda+sidious. Therefore oppress > two yoda's and a sidious. Oppress stomps

Originally posted by Azronger
How can Savage block lightning, when even Maul can't? deleted scene pls

Tyranus, obviously. That disarming blow in Witches of the Mist is obviously a one-off and not something that happens every time they clash blades. Especially since Canon only has Dooku sizing up to Anakin and Yoda's strength just fine.

Nova, you've literally given me cancer with these arguments over the years. "One off" =/= can't ever happen again, especially given Savage's growth since the fight. Anakin isn't as strong as Savage, which is just obvious. Yoda isn't as strength-based a fighter as Opress, lacks his physical mass, or for whatever contrived reason you want to hunt down, isn't capable of batting Dooku away like a fly - unless he was holding back in AotC, which alongside his non-strength based style seems to make the most logical sense for why he didn't. Yoda is obviously stronger than Opress via his parity with Sidious, but it's about how they apply their strength.

Also, let's talk about the fact Savage frigging did it in the first place. Not Anakin, not Grievous, not Yoda - Savage did it. I'm pretty sure the way it works is that if there's visual proof of someone doing something, there's an extremely massive possibility that they can do that thing.

You can jump through as many mental loops as you like, but Dooku being able to meet Savage's full strength in a duel is just unrealistic. And I don't even know why it's such a hard pill to swallow. It's possibly the shittest hand Dooku could ever be dealt style-wise. Savage is a Force monster who is retardedly big and strong and bases his entire fighting style around using that strength. Dooku is 80, and while impressive for his age, is relatively frail in this situation. Hence why his style revolves around not meeting someone like Savage's strength head-on. He turned his weakness into his greatest asset, indicating intelligence which you don't seem inclined to honour, despite being such a devout supporter of his.

In my opinion, you're pissing on Dooku's shoes by ascribing abilities to him that are fictional. Every character has strengths and weaknesses, and sometimes styles make for lopsided fights.

If you can't accept what is possibly Dooku's only frigging weakness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1DcD8e55YY

ILS just caused Nova to turn into a black hole.

Originally posted by ILS
Nova, you've literally given me cancer with these arguments over the years. "One off" =/= can't ever happen again, especially given Savage's growth since the fight. Anakin isn't as strong as Savage, which is just obvious. Yoda isn't as strength-based a fighter as Opress, lacks his physical mass, or for whatever contrived reason you want to hunt down, isn't capable of batting Dooku away like a fly - unless he was holding back in AotC, which alongside his non-strength based style seems to make the most logical sense for why he didn't. Yoda is obviously stronger than Opress via his parity with Sidious, but it's about how they apply their strength.

Also, let's talk about the fact Savage frigging did it in the first place. Not Anakin, not Grievous, not Yoda - Savage did it. I'm pretty sure the way it works is that if there's visual proof of someone doing something, there's an extremely massive possibility that they can do that thing.

You can jump through as many mental loops as you like, but Dooku being able to meet Savage's full strength in a duel is just unrealistic. And I don't even know why it's such a hard pill to swallow. It's possibly the shittest hand Dooku could ever be dealt style-wise. Savage is a Force monster who is retardedly big and strong and bases his entire fighting style around using that strength. Dooku is 80, and while impressive for his age, is relatively frail in this situation. Hence why his style revolves around not meeting someone like Savage's strength head-on. He turned his weakness into his greatest asset, indicating intelligence which you don't seem inclined to honour, despite being such a devout supporter of his.

In my opinion, you're pissing on Dooku's shoes by ascribing abilities to him that are fictional. Every character has strengths and weaknesses, and sometimes styles make for lopsided fights.

If you can't accept what is possibly Dooku's only frigging weakness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1DcD8e55YY

Okay, if you get cancer, all the better. You're not even interpreting my argument correctly. **** off. **** right off.

Firstly, I didn't say it can't ever happen again. I said it won't happen every single time they ****ing clash blades, because that's ridiculous. I mean, honestly, do you actually think that every single time they clash blades Dooku is going to flying again?

Consider Savage with his "growth after the fight". Turtle Tanker fight with Ventress, the Adi Gallia fight, etc. - where on ****ing Earth does Savage send them flying or disarm them in one blow? Never. Want a good reason for that? Because he isn't strong enough to send people of any respectable caliber flying with one strike. There's circumstances to his feat with Dooku.

The fact that Dooku suddenly went from dodging blow after blow from Savage (and easily, at that) to actually trying to block the strikes should tell you something. Clearly, he positioned himself poorly, which necessitated that he actually engage Savage's blade instead of dodging again. On top of that, Savage would've been building up momentum with all of his strikes that he missed. So a combination of momentum on Savage's part and poor positioning on Dooku's part is why Savage managed that one shot.

Obviously, Dooku would be an utter ****pot to meet Savage's blows head-on. He'll tire himself quickly and unnecessarily. But seeing as Savage has improved since WotM, it's only natural that their blades will connect at some point or other. And when that happens, despite the toll it'll take on Dooku's reserves, it won't be sending him flying once again. Dooku can ****ing engage Yoda in a saberlock for extended periods of time. Yes, it'll be tiring, but he's met greater strength before and he can do it again. Savage is not sending Dooku flying on first contact with a blade. And yes, if the circumstances match the ones in WotM, then Savage will be doing it again. In fact, he won't even need much momentum, since, as you said, he's gotten stronger. I doubt that'll happen - by choice, at least, because Dooku's learned his lesson. If you want to argue that Savage can contend with Dooku blade-wise long enough to tire him out, then that's fine. But don't ****ing argue - or even imply - that every blade clash will result in Dooku flying.

And that's all I was contesting - that Dooku isn't going to go flying every time their blades meet. Nowhere did I insinuate that Dooku can meet Savage's strength head-on without consequence, or that power blows don't constitute a problem to him. Seriously, just ****ing read, pommy *****.

So https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9KVIfpNG4w.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
ILS just caused Nova to turn into a black hole.

Then he's just sucked himself in, lmao.

Anyway, it felt good, using that many expletives.

I love you too.

I'll ****ing respond ****ing tomorrow.

****ing okay.

Originally posted by ILS
Nova, you've literally given me cancer with these arguments over the years. "One off" =/= can't ever happen again, especially given Savage's growth since the fight. Anakin isn't as strong as Savage, which is just obvious. Yoda isn't as strength-based a fighter as Opress, lacks his physical mass, or for whatever contrived reason you want to hunt down, isn't capable of batting Dooku away like a fly - unless he was holding back in AotC, which alongside his non-strength based style seems to make the most logical sense for why he didn't. Yoda is obviously stronger than Opress via his parity with Sidious, but it's about how they apply their strength.

Also, let's talk about the fact Savage frigging did it in the first place. Not Anakin, not Grievous, not Yoda - Savage did it. I'm pretty sure the way it works is that if there's visual proof of someone doing something, there's an extremely massive possibility that they can do that thing.

You can jump through as many mental loops as you like, but Dooku being able to meet Savage's full strength in a duel is just unrealistic. And I don't even know why it's such a hard pill to swallow. It's possibly the shittest hand Dooku could ever be dealt style-wise. Savage is a Force monster who is retardedly big and strong and bases his entire fighting style around using that strength. Dooku is 80, and while impressive for his age, is relatively frail in this situation. Hence why his style revolves around not meeting someone like Savage's strength head-on. He turned his weakness into his greatest asset, indicating intelligence which you don't seem inclined to honour, despite being such a devout supporter of his.

In my opinion, you're pissing on Dooku's shoes by ascribing abilities to him that are fictional. Every character has strengths and weaknesses, and sometimes styles make for lopsided fights.

If you can't accept what is possibly Dooku's only frigging weakness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1DcD8e55YY

Nobody failed to accept Dooku's weakness, lmao. Still waiting for proof that every time they clash blades Dooku will go flying, though, seeing as it didn't happen with Ventress or Adi Gallia.

Obviously Dooku meeting Savage's strength head-on isn't a wise idea. Thankfully, as we all know, he's going to try to deflect the attacks instead of doing that.

Yes, lets take a story arc where a pre pime oppress can ragdoll dooku+ventress and a wounded ventress can ragdoll anakin+kenobi simultaneously seriously. Especially when after that "power growth" he's getting his barrier broken by ventress and kenobi on their own(with maul's help in the latter case) and performs nowhere close toh ow well he does vs dooku. Season 3 oppress woulds tomp oppress in his prime

Still think Savage sending Dooku flying was a combination of Strength + TK. After all he does the same to Anakin and Obi-Wan moments later (yes he was rage enhanced, but he did it to 2 of them that time, and sent them much further).

Also physically speaking, there's no way a Saber clash alone would send someone flying through the air like that. Either they'd be disarmed or the Saber would be pushed back into their face. But they won't go flying through the air, no matter how hard the Saber clash is.

It happened, suck it up.

Rofl at the idea of Savage being the overall superior combatant to Dooku, tbh.

suck it up

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Still think Savage sending Dooku flying was a combination of Strength + TK. After all he does the same to Anakin and Obi-Wan moments later (yes he was rage enhanced, but he did it to 2 of them that time, and sent them much further).

Also physically speaking, there's no way a Saber clash alone would send someone flying through the air like that. Either they'd be disarmed or the Saber would be pushed back into their face. But they won't go flying through the air, no matter how hard the Saber clash is. Using TK with saber combat seems like something Jedi and Sith always do; I remember Anakin's palm playing very close attention to a saber lock him and Dooku had in RotS. And if it's something Savage can do during a fight, all the more power to him.
Originally posted by Petrus
Rofl at the idea of Savage being the overall superior combatant to Dooku, tbh. I don't think anyone said that, but it is a funny idea.

Rule of cool > any argument you could possibly make. Savage beating Dooku would not be the cool move to make in TCW. But it doesn't mean Nova isn't in for a rinsing when I tackle his post tomorrow.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
suck it up

R o f l.

Originally posted by ILS
deleted scene pls

Not canon.

Originally posted by ILS
But it doesn't mean Nova isn't in for a rinsing when I tackle his post tomorrow.

I guess I'll have to wait for you're actually debating. Do you really think Savage is going to send Dooku flying with each blow, or?

Dooku stomps.

actual*

Can't even quote your post.



Hitting thin air doesn't give you momentum, but continuing that into another strike and so on will. Try it yourself, lol. You also didn't address my point that Dooku was poorly positioned (not sure why they had that happen for a Makashi master, but that's TCW for you).

As for Dooku missing Savage's strikes and then going flying when the blades hit again, I already said that if the circumstances repeat themselves, then it can happen again. I'm just not seeing a simple strike from Savage sending Dooku flying on contact. If he keeps missing strikes and builds up momentum, then lands an attack when Dooku is poorly positioned again, then of course the same thing will happen again. And arguably, Dooku would go flying further, since Savage is probably stronger by now too.



Why not? I didn't say anything about Lightning. I'm not expecting Dooku to hold him down like a hound with Lightning or anything.

But as with Savage sending Dooku flying, just because it won't happen every time he attacks, doesn't mean it can't happen. Dooku might still tag Savage with Lightning at some point, just as Savage might still disarm Dooku at some point.

Originally posted by SunRazer
You also didn't address my point I said I would tomorrow, but I'm gonna do it now.So as we established, this is a strawman. "Every single time" isn't the same as not being probable. I'm arguing for probable.

Or Dooku's age caught up with him, and those two much younger fighters have demonstrated their superior strength? Like I said, maybe Dooku not being perfect is a thing idk????
It tells me he ran out of ideas and opted not to get cut in half.
You countered your own post for me.

"he" - f*cking Dooku the man himself

positioned "himself" - no, the government didn't do it, climate change didn't do it, Lucas didn't do it, f*cking Dooku did it

poorly.

Also? Why do you think it might be that Dooku was in a bad position? Hmm?

https://youtu.be/7s3x8ox2ToE?t=1m16s

Could it be that every time Savage tried to hack him in half he moved back. Moving back being an uncomfortable way to fight at the best of times due to the liability of basic human motor skills? You know, how we're designed not to walk the way our f*cking eyes aren't looking??????

And poor position? Really? What was wrong with it? The ground was flat. I didn't see any old-bastard magnets in the vicinity. And when Dooku went for his flight I saw plenty of air-time before he actually came into contact with a wall.

So please Nova. I'm enthralled. Elucidate on why Dooku - not Savage - not only got himself into a "bad position", but also on how it's NAWT HIS FAWLT OKEY DOOKU PEFECT

Hitting thin air multiple times in a row combined with walking forwards. The most efficient momentum builder in the history of martial arts. How revolutionary and unique and unfair. Poor Dooku.
Better than being cut in half, clearly, hence why he did it. But sans your fictional parameters of "NOT DOOKU FAWLT BAD POSITION OKEY", what other options are available to him? Dodging infinitely? Meeting his blows at a glancing angle, which is not only dangerous but a huge tax on his stamina?

The thing I love most about this discussion is that I don't even disagree with anything you're saying. It's just a case of working with you until you realise whose argument you've been supporting the entire time. Tip: not your own.
So your evidence that Dooku will be able to consistently meet Savage's blade without his stamina or balance flagging, is that he managed to lose to Yoda in 40 seconds? Savage who has already sent him flying, opposed to Yoda who didn't? And I know how much you love using the novel/junior novel, so before you do, I'll remind you that on top of Yoda possibly holding back, and not at all being a strength-based fighter (which is what taxes Dooku's strength most quickly, not light fast strikes), he spent the all of the beginning of the duel fighting only defensively. When he went on the offensive, guess who lost?

So again, to sum up in perfectly simple terms:

Savage - not Yoda. Yoda - not Savage.
Losing - not very good evidence to use.
Totally agreed Nova, totally agreed. And I like the enthusiasm.
Man, and the momentum by itself was enough, wasn't it? Poor Dooku.

AhhhhhhhHHHHHHH WE NEARLY GOT SOMEWHERE

IT'S ALMOST LIKE SOMETIMES YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE WHEN SOMEONE IS SWINGING A LIGHTSABER AT YOU NOVA STOP

I DIDN'T
THEN EAT YOUR GODDAMN MEDICINE NOVA BECAUSE THE "CONSEQUENCE" IN QUESTION IS ANOTHER TRIP TO F*CKING WALL-LAND

LMAO

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS

THEY DON'T MAKE DEBATERS LIKE THIS ANY MORE

NO SIR

Originally posted by SunRazer
Can't even quote your post.

Hitting thin air doesn't give you momentum, but continuing that into another strike and so on will. Try it yourself, lol. You also didn't address my point that Dooku was poorly positioned (not sure why they had that happen for a Makashi master, but that's TCW for you).

As for Dooku missing Savage's strikes and then going flying when the blades hit again, I already said that if the circumstances repeat themselves, then it can happen again. I'm just not seeing a simple strike from Savage sending Dooku flying on contact. If he keeps missing strikes and builds up momentum, then lands an attack when Dooku is poorly positioned again, then of course the same thing will happen again. And arguably, Dooku would go flying further, since Savage is probably stronger by now too.

Why not? I didn't say anything about Lightning. I'm not expecting Dooku to hold him down like a hound with Lightning or anything.

But as with Savage sending Dooku flying, just because it won't happen every time he attacks, doesn't mean it can't happen. Dooku might still tag Savage with Lightning at some point, just as Savage might still disarm Dooku at some point. sO to keep this nice and short:

WALKING FORWARD = PROBABLY MOMENTUM
WALKING FORWARD = PROBABLY NOT A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO REPLICATE

SECOND PARAGRAPH HAS BEEN COVERED

AS FOR LIGHTNING

IF AOTC KENOBI CAN RENDER IT OBSOLETE I WONDER HOW THE F*CK SAVAGE IS GOING TO DO. I BET HE'S IN A WORLD OF FRIGGING TROUBLE, WHAT WITH ALL THAT EXPERIENCE HE HAD WITH LIGHTNING AND THE TIME HE HAD TO REFLECT ON IT AND IT BEING SOMETHING A DARK JEDI LIKE VENTRESS CAN FIGURE OUT AND GEE I WONDER IF MAUL TOLD HIM AND I WONDER WHY THE WRITERS HAD SAVAGE BLOCKING IT IN A SCENE THAT WAS ANIMATED TO A DEGREE AND RELEASED TO US AND IS THIS ACTUALLY REALLY DIFFICULT OR SOMETHING I DON'T F*CKING GET IT BUT I'M WAITING WITH BAITED BREATH FOR YOUR NEXT POST NOVA LET'S HEAR IT BUDDY

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/155630_o.gif

LMFAO I love this

That post made me laugh more than anything else. Good job, lol.

I'll respond later. And yes, you've finally figured out that I'm actually with you on most of the points, lol. I'm just saying I don't think Savage is sending Dooku flying with each strike, and you don't even seem to disagree.

Originally posted by ILS
I said I would tomorrow, but I'm gonna do it now.So as we established, this is a strawman. "Every single time" isn't the same as not being probable. I'm arguing for probable.

Firstly, I was making my own stance, which is that I don't believe it'll happen every time they clash blades. If you want to argue that it's probable, good for you.



You know, there is a thing called augmentation which has the potential to overcome the infirmities of age. Kind of what Yoda does a lot.

And before you blatantly misrepresent this as well, no, I'm not saying Dooku's augmentation is on par with Yoda's.



You mean in spite of Dooku repeatedly proving in the same episode that he was stronger than Ventress? Right.



Way to set up a strawman. In no way did I ever insinuate that Dooku was perfect or flawless. Nowhere did I suggest that power blows weren't a problem for him.

Perfect? Your mental condition is perfectly eluding the psychologists, you ****ing brick.



Maybe your eyes aren't ****ing looking at the page. I said if the circumstances repeat themselves, then Savage will indeed do the same thing to Dooku. Whether he forces Dooku into such a position here isn't what I'm arguing, you pillock. I'm saying that without the positioning, the momentum, etc, Savage isn't doing the same to Dooku. That's why I went on about "every strike".



What's wrong with his position? The fact that it didn't allow him to keep dodging Savage's blows, maybe? Or do you think he suddenly developed amnesia and decided to break away from the dodging and go for meeting Savage's strength head-on? ****ing cement mixer.



He starts with a leaping attack, then does a huge sweep immediately after that. The next few strikes just continue to build momentum. Regardless, he is building momentum.



Are you warming up somebody else's brain for them?

I wasn't referring to that instance, clearly. I was saying that in general (ie. in this thread's fictional battle scenario), Dooku wouldn't be smart if he just decided to meet Savage's strength to no end.



In other words, you've finally caught on with the fact that I'm not actually disagreeing with you on a lot of these points?

Supporting arguments? I was making my own stance on the matter and you decided to treat it as an attack on you, lol. Little did you know that I wasn't doing that, because, shocker, I actually wasn't targeting and attacking your points specifically.



I'm talking about the saberlock at the end of the duel, you ****ing psychological mystery.



There's a choice between dodging it from the onset or trying to deflect the blow from the onset to stop the building of momentum. If Dooku alternates between the two, he might have a better chance of staying on his feet.



Then don't attack my post when that was my only ****ing point.



They don't make debaters who don't even understand your stance and go straight for mockery despite completely misrepresenting your stance, indeed. Looks like you've taken a trip to wall-land with your head.

Originally posted by ILS
IF AOTC KENOBI CAN RENDER IT OBSOLETE I WONDER HOW THE F*CK SAVAGE IS GOING TO DO. I BET HE'S IN A WORLD OF FRIGGING TROUBLE, WHAT WITH ALL THAT EXPERIENCE HE HAD WITH LIGHTNING AND THE TIME HE HAD TO REFLECT ON IT AND IT BEING SOMETHING A DARK JEDI LIKE VENTRESS CAN FIGURE OUT AND GEE I WONDER IF MAUL TOLD HIM AND I WONDER WHY THE WRITERS HAD SAVAGE BLOCKING IT IN A SCENE THAT WAS ANIMATED TO A DEGREE AND RELEASED TO US AND IS THIS ACTUALLY REALLY DIFFICULT OR SOMETHING I DON'T F*CKING GET IT BUT I'M WAITING WITH BAITED BREATH FOR YOUR NEXT POST NOVA LET'S HEAR IT BUDDY

Are you ****ing retarded? I agreed with you on Savage being able to block Lightning, you stupid thick *****. You asked me if Savage can also "learn from his mistakes and finally block lightning" and I said "why not?"

I DON'T KNOW WHAT "WHY NOT?" MEANS OVER THERE IN SCOTLAND, BUT **** ME, YOUNG POMMY.

You're so caught up in mockery that you don't even understand my ****ing stance.

Bated breath? Bated constipation. I'm ****ing shitting myself right now at the thickness of that wall you call a head.

Relaxxx.

We're both just swearing for the hell of it. It's just what Aussies and Brits, do, lol.

I think.

No hard feelings, ILS

Nova, how is Savage supposed to have generated momentum when a) his lightsaber is weightless b) he was changing the direction of the blade every time?

Lightsabers are established in a range of sources as having momentum. Also, they're not completely weightless, only the blade is.

Although the weightlessness of the blade actually means that its force would be partly derived from Savage's own momentum, wouldn't it? With Savage moving forwards.

EDIT: Apparently some canon source says that lightsabers are difficult to wield because they gather momentum so quickly. I don't have any of the canon sources, though, so I'd need somebody else to confirm.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Lightsabers are established in a range of sources as having momentum. Also, they're not completely weightless, only the blade is.

Although the weightlessness of the blade actually means that its force would be partly derived from Savage's own momentum, wouldn't it? With Savage moving forwards.

EDIT: Apparently some canon source says that lightsabers are difficult to wield because they gather momentum so quickly. I don't have any of the canon sources, though, so I'd need somebody else to confirm.
george lucas stated lightsabers were heavy iirc

He said they were initially designed to be very heavy weapons in ANH, but changed that as time went on, IIRC.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Lightsabers are established in a range of sources as having momentum. Also, they're not completely weightless, only the blade is.

Although the weightlessness of the blade actually means that its force would be partly derived from Savage's own momentum, wouldn't it? With Savage moving forwards.

EDIT: Apparently some canon source says that lightsabers are difficult to wield because they gather momentum so quickly. I don't have any of the canon sources, though, so I'd need somebody else to confirm. Yes I'm sure they are, now what about b?

I addressed that. The blade gets momentum from Savage's own due to its weightlessness, which means it gets some forward momentum. Ie. head-on with Dooku.

I mean, Savage wasn't necessarily doing something that much different from your typical lightsaber wielder, who is generating lots of momentum all the same (which you agreed with).

Not sure how that addresses anything, you said that Savage would build momentum by swinging his blade back and forth, I'm asking how that is physically possible when he was reversing the direction of the blade each time.

Not really interested in discussing whether a lightsaber wielder can generate momentum at all, but rather your claim that he was generating more than usual.

Generating more than usual is because Dooku decided not to intercept Savage's blows at any point until the end. In ordinary lightsaber fights, people meet each other's blades all the time, which nullifies the momentum. In this one, Savage got time to keep swinging around, which kept building up momentum without it "resetting" from a blade clash, if you will. Dooku only decided to engage Savage once his position was poor enough to keep him from continuing to dodge. That was his mistake.

What I meant from him learning his lesson was to actually intercept Savage's blades to try to deflect the blows, and alternate between doing that and dodging the strikes. That way, he isn't taxed as much as just clashing blades with Savage, and he's not allowing Savage to build up momentum freely. It's not a good scenario, but it's the best he can do here (other than try to spam Lightning to break Savage's momentum). His positioning can still end up going to shit here, as well, of course.

Lmfao I'm aware of your ****ing point Nova. I'm pointing out why it is problematic.

Let me explain this in simpler terms: if you drive a car forward and the engine suddenly switches off, the generated forward momentum would keep it moving. However? If you put the breaks on that car and proceeded to drive backward, that forward momentum would be nullified.

Or in other words, if Savage swings his blade one way, yes, that will generate momentum, but if he then stops to swing it the other way, that momentum should be nullified, because he's moving it in the reverse direction, and so on, and so on.

Or in other words, Savage shouldn't have generated any culmative motion at all, not when he's moving in alternating directions.

Savage himself isn't moving in different directions, the blade is. But I'm saying that since the blade is weightless, it'll probably be mostly carrying Savage's own momentum anyway.

Which is why lightsaber wielders are able to generate a lot of momentum even though there's plenty of fighting styles that involve swinging the lightsaber in numerous directions. Although I do admit Savage wasn't precisely using any typical lightsaber style and was sort of just swinging erratically.

And that changes the aforementioned how? Where the momentum is coming from is not relevant.

Maybe momentum is working differently down under.

Definitely.

Seems that way.

Originally posted by SunRazer
We're both just swearing for the hell of it. It's just what Aussies and Brits, do, lol.

I think.

No hard feelings, ILS The f*ck are you calling BRIT YOU

I've been dicking around the entire time

Rule Britania, ey ILS?

nothx

Originally posted by ILS
The f*ck are you calling BRIT YOU

I've been dicking around the entire time

You better be. Brit.