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1: Pre-Nathema Vitiate

2: Post-Nathema Vitiate

3: Novel Vitiate

4: TOR Vitiate

5: Valkorion


Anakin's as of RotS.

If he loses at either four or five, he transforms into his Knightfall incarnation.

Where does he stop and why?

A random as **** smuggler beat Valkorion, so I'm sure Anakin can manage.

Makes to 2 at best.

Rots Anakin is considered to be not only the greatest Jedi of his generation but possibly in ANY generation, making him a top tier in all generations of the Jedi beforehand. He roughly scales from the likes of Jedi such as Revan, Jedi Kun, etc. And ofc heavy hitters such as Windu and Yoda. He should at least clear 3.

By Knightfall he was stronger than any Sith before him including Vitiate/Valk so he sweeps.

Knightfall Anakin is unquestionably superior, but valk may take a couple rounds simply on the basis of being well suited for anakin matchup wise.

But Anakin overall has much more raw power, happens to be a yoda/sidious level duelist, and is vastly stronger and is much faster. nd Valk;s tutaminis is only delaying the inevitable vs someone with far greater force reserves

Clears of course.

TP could be an issue. Otherwise clears

Originally posted by Azronger
TP could be an issue. Otherwise clears

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Knightfall Anakin is unquestionably superior, but valk may take a couple rounds simply on the basis of being well suited for anakin matchup wise.

This.

Force strength affects one's overall ability to perform, while experience ensures that they fight with more ideal performance.

Anakin gets destroyed.
Is it a rule in KMC that Anakin must be heavily overrated or?

Anakin sweeps.

I see people HEAVILY overrate KFV and underrate Valkorion

Stops at 2.

The Merchant you are thiking of FP Anakin.Mace Windu>KFV
Yoda>>>KFV

No, the Merchant wasn't of thinking anything of the sort.

"And ofc heavy hitters such as Windu and Yoda. He should at least clear 3.

By Knightfall he was stronger than any Sith before him including Vitiate/Valk so he sweeps."She clearly thinks so by stating KFV>Valk

Originally posted by GMLukeSWEB
The Merchant you are thiking of FP Anakin.Mace Windu>KFV
Yoda>>>KFV
George Lucas says Knightfall Vader/Anakin is as strong as Sidiousk

George Lucas is wrong when it comes to the EU..He is only right when its about canon.

good thing anakin and sidious are both canon characters

Anakin isnt CLOSE to Sidious.As Sidious said:"Vader WILL become more powerful than either of us".He didnt say Vader IS more powerful..

Not being more powerful doesn't mean you can't compare, lol. Lucas himself said Anakin was "as strong" as Sidious. Palpatine himself admits to Dooku in the RotS novel that Anakin is potentially more powerful than himself. Yoda, Mace and various other Jedi recognize Anakin as the probably most powerful Jedi, which is cemented as fact by a variety of objective sources. Whether we're discussing Legends or Canon, that is an indisputable fact.

Where Anakin lags behind in comparison to Sidious is Force knowledge and mastery, though he's quite underrated there. But in anything else, he's in Sheev's league.

Nitpick:
"potentially" means, "with the capacity to happen in the future"
The rest is solid though

Gets mindraped every round

No way that Anakin would win against Sidious.He has no feats or accolades placing him above or near Sidious

Clears.

Originally posted by GMLukeSWEB
Anakin isnt CLOSE to Sidious.As Sidious said:"Vader WILL become more powerful than either of us".He didnt say Vader IS more powerful..
George Lucas never said he was more powerful, said he was as powerful. That doesn't mean he'd beat Sidious in a fight though, Sidious is more experienced and masterful.

And thats ROTS Sidious.As we know Valk=/=DE Sidious>>>ROTS Sidious>KFV

Originally posted by GMLukeSWEB
And thats ROTS Sidious.As we know Valk=/=DE Sidious>>>ROTS Sidious>KFV

You clearly didn't listen to Mason, me, Billy, and others who came from here and told the group of the cancerous low-balling here

Originally posted by GMLukeSWEB
As we know Valk=/=DE Sidious>>>ROTS Sidious>KFV

No... we don't know that. Since it's not true; DE Sidious >> Valk, who's not even ~ TPM Sidious, much less >> RotS Sidious.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
You clearly didn't listen to Mason, me, Billy, and others who came from here and told the group of the cancerous low-balling here

Please warn us next time before a TOR wanker starts popping up to randomly post garbage... It's only sensible.

He's not my mans

How is Valkorion weaker than TPM Sidious??And I am not a big fan of TOR era.I like post ROTJ era the most

Because there's canonical sources saying TPM Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history, i.e. he surpassed Valkorion.

Originally posted by MythLord
Because there's canonical sources saying TPM Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history, i.e. he surpassed Valkorion.
Valkorion isn't a Sith, lol. Try harder.

1.Valkorion is NOT a Sith.Vitiate is.2.Thats..Not true.3.The most important part Valkorion surpasses TPM,CW,ROTS and ROTJ Sidious.DE Sidious=Valkorion.Or DE Sidious=<Valkorion.

Originally posted by GMLukeSWEB
1.Valkorion is NOT a Sith.Vitiate is.

He is; he's confirmed to be one. Valk is just bullsh!tting the player by saying he's not a Sith Lord.

Originally posted by GMLukeSWEB
2.Thats..Not true.

Masterful argument... I'm convinced; expect not really. Why would a quote that proclaims Sidious as of TPM as the most OP Sith be false? Because you deem it so?

Originally posted by GMLukeSWEB
3.The most important part Valkorion surpasses TPM,CW,ROTS and ROTJ Sidious.DE Sidious=Valkorion.Or DE Sidious=<Valkorion.

You have no basis for this other than your personal whims. Canonical quotes put Sidious as early as TPM beating Valkorion, thus he's better than Valkorion even as of that timeframe.

Originally posted by MythLord
He is; he's confirmed to be one.
No, there is a canonical statement saying otherwise. From the same source, no less. The one you're thinking of was with context to the species, not the organization.

No, he wasn't at all. The statement confirms what he says.

Lord Vitiate is a Sith.Valkorion is Vitiate post-draining Ziost.TPM Sidious isnt a sh*t compared to either DE Sidious or Valkorion.Vitiate defeated his Sith master at 13 yo.And Valkorion is a sh*t ton stronger than Vitiate.He one-shoted Darth Marr and blocked Arcann's lightsaber strikes with bare hands with no efforts

If you want to debate you have to use both EU and Canon

good that both have repeatedly made clear that rots sids is better than any sith before him

Valkorion is not a Sith.Vitiate is. And Valk>>>Vitiate

I swear to God, the pro-TOR arguments are just getting worse and worse.