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What does vader have in terms of telepathy/willpower?

Vader stomps

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
What does vader have in terms of telepathy/willpower?
Nothing.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
What does vader have in terms of telepathy/willpower?
The same thing that both strike teams of randoms that took down the Dread Masters had.

Dread Masters obliterate him.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
What does vader have in terms of telepathy/willpower?

Vader did will himself to live at one point. That's pretty potent willpower.

For telepathy, he broke the telepathic defenses of ROTJ Luke, an extremely powerful Jedi who has some telepathic feats shortly after ROTJ (see Nova's Respect Thread). That's his impressive feat. He has some others but to my knowledge nothing over the top amazing.

Vader revives himself by sheer will from the point of death, resists the Visions in his quest to transform his light saber, and through sheer will power brings his armor/life support systems back after Cyclo shuts them down

Pretty sure he has better willpower/TP resistance than fodder TOR characters

Originally posted by carthage
Vader revives himself by sheer will from the point of death, resists the Visions in his quest to transform his light saber, and through sheer will power brings his armor/life support systems back after Cyclo shuts them down

Pretty sure he has better willpower/TP resistance than fodder TOR characters
Oh, we're doing Canon?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nothing.


What? Off the top of my head, Vader has,

- kept himself alive via sheer willpower
- disspeled Pavan's illusions
- taught Kharys the ability to conjure doubt and mentally vitiate opponents -during combat - as evident in her fight against neophyte Luke
- forcefully pulled info from Luke's mind
- telepathically sensed Starkiller's thoughts while being lightyears away

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The same thing that both strike teams of randoms that took down the Dread Masters had.

Yeah, the protags are just a bunch of "randoms" I guess

Dread Masters.

Originally posted by nfactor1995
Yeah, the protags are just a bunch of "randoms" I guess
Compared to Vader? That's what they are

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
What? Off the top of my head, Vader has,
- telepathically sensed Starkiller's thoughts while being lightyears away
Mind posting?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
What? Off the top of my head, Vader has,

- kept himself alive via sheer willpower
- disspeled Pavan's illusions
- taught Kharys the ability to conjure doubt and mentally vitiate opponents -during combat - as evident in her fight against neophyte Luke
- forcefully pulled info from Luke's mind
- telepathically sensed Starkiller's thoughts while being lightyears away

He has also been able to project his thoughts across the galaxy to RotJ Luke, and almost mind dominated ESB Luke. In Canon, Ahsoka was overwhelmed by merely touching his mind, similar to how Scourge was when he touched Vitiate's.

Vader's got plenty of willpower. No clue what Ant is on.

Yeah, and even if it was only Legends, Vader doesn't have nothing. kek

Originally posted by thesithmaster
Luke, an extremely powerful Jedi who has some telepathic feats shortly after ROTJ (see Nova's Respect Thread).

Mine is better.

And it shows a lot more telepathic abilities of Luke, even pre-ESB.

Telepathy and willpower aren't interchangeable.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Telepathy and willpower aren't interchangeable.

The latter, clearly correlates with the former, to a very sizable extent.

Eh, I'd need some definitive proof for a correlation.

And I do hope there is some, given how beneficial that would be for Revan.

For DM vs Vader, the DM were downing the Hero from across the galaxy with TP.

I think you can have powerful willpower and not per-se be a powerful telepathy, but I don't think it's possible you can have good tp and not have good willpower, too.

Sources such Dark Journey directly correlated Kyp Durron's telepathic ability with that of his willpower.

As for the fight, Vader obvs loses.

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Vader stomps

There's genuinely nothing he has that indicates anything of the sort. Nor do they even require TP to kill him.

Each Dread Master is a master of the Dark Side of the Force with a great deal of specialization in Sith sorcery.

They are also proficient in team-work, to the point that they have decimated entire fleets out in the space.

This contest is a mismatch in the favor of the Dread Masters collective. As good as Darth Vader is in single combat, no chance for him to succeed here.

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Still think the Dread Masters win.

Dread slaughter, yeah.

Originally posted by Azronger
Vader stomps

Why the hell do you have to necromance threads?

Dread Masters easily.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Dread slaughter, yeah.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Dread Masters easily.

Bump.

no

yes

This thread is DREADful, no need to bump it.