Darth Maul's Equal in the SWTOR Era?

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nfactor1995
Who would you guys say is the closest match (nearest to equal) for TPM and SoD Darth Maul in the SWTOR era? In an all-out fight.

cs_zoltan
World Razer.

Azronger
Unchained Vaylin and Shadow of Revan would probably be good fights for Maul.

Haschwalth
Arcann. SOR Revan would destroy Maul.

Haschwalth
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
World Razer.
Your Obviously Trolling, but on the off chance you are not, that is the stupidest thing i've seen someone say.

You do know that the eternal vault/etc is designed to hold people they could not kill.
The same Civilization capable of creating energy sources capable of wiping out solar systems.

Azronger
It has been quite well established that Maul would stomp someone on Arcann's level:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/arcann-vs-darth-maul-1759741/?page=2

NewGuy01
The closest for peak Maul would probably be the Emperor's Wrath.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by NewGuy01
The closest for peak Maul would probably be the Emperor's Wrath.

darthbane77
Yeah, the Wrath II.

NewGuy01
Oh, yeah, that's what I meant. Definitely not that pu$$y Scourge, **** him.

DarthAnt66
I'd still put Maul above the Wrath though, but I agree he's the closest to Maul in SWTOR.

nfactor1995
Emperor's Wrath as of Act III?

NewGuy01
ye

Trocity
Deceived Malgus, probably.

godemperortrump
Originally posted by Azronger
Unchained Vaylin
LMFAO Unchained Vaylin SHREDS Maul. He wouldn't stand a chance.

Azronger
Originally posted by godemperortrump
LMFAO Unchained Vaylin SHREDS Maul. He wouldn't stand a chance.

I noticed your title says "Death to the Sheevites." We should debate Maul vs Vaylin. You up for the challenge?

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Haschwalth
Arcann
You joking, right?

S_W_LeGenD
Kao Cen Darach

ziggtard
Sith Marauder class should be equal to Darth Maul

Trocity
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Kao Cen Darach


stick out tongue

AncientPower
Maybe Marr, probably Baras at his peak.

Rebel95
Originally posted by Trocity
Deceived Malgus, probably.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by NewGuy01
The closest for peak Maul would probably be the Emperor's Wrath.

AncientPower
Meh, Wrath > Maul.

Ursumeles
KotFE HoTlander / Wrathlander; probably.

AncientPower
LMFAO.

S W LeGenD
Most probably Vemrin.

YousufKhan1212
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Kao Cen Darach

https://media.tenor.com/images/91f2e1105a4150821f9931154aea0e6e/tenor.gif

Rockydonovang
bump,
Nova's made a pretty convincing case for Maul to be raised here:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/arcann-vs-darth-maul-1759741/?page=2 (post #91)

ILS and AZ also made some very good arguments there

carthage
Vindican level

UCanShootMyNova
Malgus imo.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
bump,
Nova's made a pretty convincing case for Maul to be raised here:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/arcann-vs-darth-maul-1759741/?page=2 (post #91)

ILS and AZ also made some very good arguments there

After reading their posts...

Originally posted by NewGuy01
The closest for peak Maul would probably be the Emperor's Wrath.

Rockydonovang
That's unfortunate Skillz

AncientPower
Given Wrath's own insane feats against some pretty incredibly Force users, Maul's really not all that special in comparison.

Rockydonovang
Maul's more powerful than a dude who can deadlift freighters, what does wrath have that makes him so special?

AncientPower
Killing a guy who was powerful enough to make the DC believe that he's the Voice of the Emperor. Like who could actually give a shit about ship TK feats.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by AncientPower
Killing a guy who was powerful enough to make the DC believe that he's the Voice of the Emperor.
Vague and unquantifiably impressive, but u right,
Originally posted by AncientPower
Like who could actually give a shit about actual feats.

AncientPower
The Voice of the Emperor weilds his power, meaning Baras was powerful enough that they strongly considered the idea that he was actually him using Baras as a Voice.

The Emperor regularly shits on people who can lift ships.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by AncientPower
The Voice of the Emperor weilds his power, meaning Baras was powerful enough that they strongly considered the idea that he was actually him using Baras as a Voice.

The Emperor regularly shits on people who can lift ships.
The voice still holds a vaguely small fraction of the emperor's power and that it was considered plausible for him to be a voice only puts him in some vague range of how worthy his power was compared to the voice. Not that the dark council actually has any idea just what the minimum level of power is to be the emperor's voice.

Simply put, this backscaling you're trying to give Baras from the emperor is going to get you nowhere because it's

AncientPower
The Voice wields his full power, not a small fraction. Kek.

The DC is also fully aware of the Emperor's power:

NewGuy01
uh, so what? we know for a fact that the emperor would neg-diff baras and the wrath in reality, so who cares if the dark council thinks they're comparable?

AncientPower
It means they consider that Baras was at least powerful enough to possibly kill them all, given what they know of the Emperor's history. If not, why would they ever even consider it?

NewGuy01
I think it varied from person to person. Some, like Ravage, probably felt they stood to gain from it, for example. The others likely felt it too risky to gamble on whether or not Baras was lying, and let it slide. Either way, I don't think the idea that Baras or the Wrath could solo the DC is very well supported by the material...

AncientPower
Well all of them seemed somewhat convinced besides Vowrawn, who knows it's BS but still considers Baras almost indestructible. Marr for example doesn't dare interfere.

It's especially telling, because they all knew Darth Venamis, Baras' master and former DC member. Who we know Baras wouldn't dare try and usurp himself so he sent the Wrath to do it. So Baras went from being an inferior to Venamis, to quite possibly being an Emperor's Voice. An insane jump at any rate.

DarthAnt66
Pretty sure Marr thinks he can solo either Act III Thanaton or Act III Nox w/o much diff.

EDIT: When I say "pretty sure," I vaguely remember seeing a quote given to me half-a-year ago by someone.

DarthAnt66
Found it:

Marr: "With us, you are ruler of all the Sith, answerable only to the Emperor himself."

Nox: "We'll see how long that lasts."

Marr: "I think you will find us more than equal to your threats."

Thoughts?

Rockydonovang
That didn't seem to refer to marr specifically

DarthAnt66
I doubt Marr is the only one who could beat Nox. Mortis and Ravage could too, probably.

AncientPower
Wrath > Nox is pretty self-evident tbh.

NewGuy01
is baras an supreme powerful sith lord like darth thanaton? didn't think so.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Yeah, I never thought Nox was the strongest DCM.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by AncientPower
Wrath > Nox is pretty self-evident tbh.
thumb up

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I doubt Marr is the only one who could beat Nox. Mortis and Ravage could too, probably.
Regardless, the quote refers to the dark council, "us", as a whole.

AncientPower
Which is pretty damn incredible, if you think about it.

DarthAnt66
@kbro:

Based on the wording, Marr's seemingly referring to the Dark Council individually - the "us" is used to refer to them.

Marr's not saying that only the combined power could triumph over Nox, rofl.

AncientPower
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Regardless, the quote refers to the dark council, "us", as a whole.

Rofl, he's saying each of them are. This is pathetic.

Rockydonovang
Yea, if they don't think the dude who beat Baras could take them on collectively, I doubt they thought Baras could.

AncientPower
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Yea, if they don't think the dude who beat Baras could take them on collectively, I doubt they thought Baras could.

Marr's talking to Nox not the Wrath, Baras has nothing to do with it.

Please keep displaying your utter ignorance regarding TOR Kbro,not at all hilarious.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@kbro:

Based on the wording, Marr's seemingly referring to the Dark Council individually - the "us" is used to refer to them.

Marr's not saying that only the combined power could triumph over Nox, rofl.
thumb up Regardless of whether you interpret that to refer to the members individually or collectively, there's no favorable comparison for the nox present in the quote

AncientPower
Nox not being as powerful as the remaining Sith there individually at the time isn't surprising.

Though it's insane for the other DCMs considering how powerful Thanaton is.

It's not until throughout the Dread War that Nox becomes one of the chief DCMs.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by AncientPower
Marr's talking to Nox not the Wrath, Baras has nothing to do with it.

I mixed that up.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Please keep displaying your utter ignorance regarding TOR Kbro,not at all hilarious.
Stay classy AP. I'll take my utter ignorance regarding TOR over your utter dishonesty regarding your life.

AncientPower
'Dishonestly'

Gold.

Rockydonovang
Edit buttons are golden.

AncientPower
Your CV posting history isn't.

ChocolateMuesli
AP has nothing to say when one brings up the gender fiasco lol.

AncientPower
Probably because I find it hilarious that people give so much shit tbh.

ChocolateMuesli
you obviously give so many shits since you put effort into it lol.

Trocity
It is kinda weird tbh.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Trocity
It is kinda weird tbh.
What would be completely weird in your opinion?

MythLord
Did you just assume my gender?

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by MythLord
Did you just assume my gender?
Don't deny it, you always were a narwhale.

MythLord
A narwhale is an animal, not a gender, you uneducated jackhole.

Tondemonai
Hope Satele

ILS
F*cking hell lol

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