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Sith Emperor Darth Krayt

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/2/2f/Darth_Krayt_Reborn.jpg

How strong is ILS' new champion after the blog?

Round 1: Valkorion

Round 2: Darth Plagueis

Round 3: Darth Vader (Knightfall)

Round 4: Emperor Palpatine (Return of the Jedi)

Boss: Grand Master Luke Skywalker

He might make it past 1, but in that case he'll fall at 2.

Stops at 1. He would lose against the others as well

Doesn't get anywhere, Would defeat Plagueis though.

He can defeat Plagueis, Vader and GM Luke depending on how he is performing, but I definitely give Valk and Sheev the nod over Krayt.

Originally posted by ILS
He can defeat Plagueis, Vader and GM Luke depending on how he is performing, but I definitely give Valk and Sheev the nod over Krayt.
Eh, you hold GM luke is a pretty low regard, why do you have him below Sidious/Valk?

Why do you have him above them on a normal day?

Originally posted by ILS
Why do you have him above them on a normal day?
Because I generally put it down to PIS/CIS.

So you put 95% of his showings down to PIS? That's cool, I guess.

Originally posted by ILS
So you put 95% of his showings down to PIS? That's cool, I guess.
Well, it's a bit hard to have a threat, when they have created the most powerful character, as the MC. So they have to nerf him :/ Sort of like how they nerfed Krayt Reborn in the end of legacy.(Literal plot, had to step in and end him)

Beats Plagueis, dies to the rest. All good fights, though.

Originally posted by ILS
So you put 95% of his showings down to PIS? That's cool, I guess.

Failkorion literally has the same issue of his low showings being utter shit and also quite numerous, so why chastise Luke but not him?

Like what?

Originally posted by Haschwalth
Doesn't get anywhere, might defeat Plagueis and Anakin though.

Beats alll ''cept Palpatine and Valkorion.

Originally posted by ILS
Like what?

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/star-wars-universe/4015-57038/forums/valkorion-disrespect-thread-1901887/

Originally posted by MythLord
He might make it past 1, but in that case he'll fall at 2.

Originally posted by Azronger
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/star-wars-universe/4015-57038/forums/valkorion-disrespect-thread-1901887/ Srs though.

I'm entirely serious. So why are you now thinking I'm joking when I'm listing Failk's low showings but call out others for treating Luke's blunders as PIS?

I want specific examples that line up with Luke's tendency to hold back his full power, something Valk doesn't suffer from.

Originally posted by ILS
I want specific examples that line up with Luke's tendency to hold back his full power, something Valk doesn't suffer from.

I think I misunderstood/am misunderstanding your point. Are you putting Luke in the dirt because he deliberately holds back his power or because of his actual low showings?

I'm saying Luke is only DE Sidious level at his very best, e.g when he's storming Shimrra's palace or something, but not all the time. Whereas Valk's level is consistent across the board.

What time period does GM Luke cover again?

IIRC Post-35ABY, so, DN, FotJ, LotF

Stops at 2.

Originally posted by ILS
I'm saying Luke is only DE Sidious level at his very best, e.g when he's storming Shimrra's palace or something, but not all the time. Whereas Valk's level is consistent across the board.

Sure. But all that line of thinking amounts to is for the opponent to pray Luke won't break out his full power. It's a redundant mindset. Luke can factually perform at DE Sheev's level whenever he wishes, so that's how he should be judged in my opinion.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Stops at 2.

You seriously think he can beat Valk?

Originally posted by Nephthys
You seriously think he can beat Valk? what's stopping valkorion from walking into a lightsabre?

It falling out of Krayt's nerveless grasp, I suppose.

These are some really tough foes for Krayt.

I think Krayt beats Plagueis, unsure about KF Vader, but loses to the other 3, presuming Luke is at his absolute best.

Krayt vs Plagueis is an interesting fight. I don't see Krayt having an edge with the Force outside of Dark Transfer, which could be plausibly countered by Midichlorian Manip. If anything I'd give Plagueis the Force edge. As for a lightsaber fight Krayt may have a slight speed advantage and Plagueis a strength advantage. Krayt has more real feats of skill under his belt probably but Plagueis honestly rather impressed me with his ability to essentially go into the zone and defeat a superior duelist at will.

Falls to Valkorion

I can see him winning against Plagueis because he has more powerful TK and Lightning, plus he has dark transfer and is just more trained for using the force in a combative setting.

I don't think he'll be pulling decisive victories over anyone else, though.

Valkorion is more powerful in the force, both combatively and not. Krayt's a better lightsaber duelist, but Valk doesn't really deal with that. It would be a force-based fight, and Valk would win.

Knightfall Vader is more powerful in the Force and with lightsabers, though much more stupid, so Krayt might just win relying on Anakin's stupidity.

With Sidious, he could put up one hell of a fight, and defenitely leave the emperor in critical condition, but I don't think he could quite win.

He would lose to GM Luke. He could still put up a fight, but only the kind he did when fightning Kenobi on Tatooine. He would lose 10/10.

This is kind of a loss for Krayt, but not at all a loss for ILS. That respect thread defenitely pushed up hype for Krayt. He doesn't win against most of these guys, but just how much of a fight he's capable of putting on alone is ridiculously impressive.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
These are some really tough foes for Krayt.

I think Krayt beats Plagueis, unsure about KF Vader, but loses to the other 3, presuming Luke is at his absolute best.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
These are some really tough foes for Krayt.

I think Krayt beats Plagueis, unsure about KF Vader, but loses to the other 3, presuming Luke is at his absolute best.
Agreed. Though I could also see him losing to Plagueis, that would be a tough fight.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
These are some really tough foes for Krayt.

I think Krayt beats Plagueis, unsure about KF Vader, but loses to the other 3, presuming Luke is at his absolute best.

The new thread rule is that Luke is at his absolute best.

That's Oneness Luke... I'm sure he eats Krayt alive, then.