Izax vs. Valkorion
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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Izax as seen in War on Iokath: Gods of the Machine. Valkorion as of KOTFE Chapter 1. Fight takes place on flat, neutral terrain.
AncientPower
Tenebrae is confirmed to be more powerful. He wins.
xolthol
Originally posted by AncientPower
Tenebrae is confirmed to be more powerful. He wins.
Can you provide evidences of this ? I didn't remember any.
Freedon Nadd
I hope some day BioWare continues Knights of The Old Republic 3 and places everything after 2 as alternate timeline.
NewGuy01
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
I hope some day BioWare continues Knights of The Old Republic 3 and places everything after 1 as alternate timeline.
AncientPower
Originally posted by xolthol
Can you provide evidences of this ? I didn't remember any.
The Zakuul Pantheon is a family too, even referenced in the prior expansion.
AncientPower
You can laugh drunkenly all you like.
Freedon Nadd
Emo Family and Gods.
Selenial
Originally posted by AncientPower
You can laugh drunkenly all you like.
There are literally so many ways to argue why your quote doesn't necessarily apply to them that I don't know where to start.
Want to pick a random number between 1 and 3,000?
AncientPower
Except it's a blanket statement, Valkorion and Vaylin make up the most dangerous family in SWTOR. Valkorion is fully aware of their actual power, he has spent centuries informing the Eternal Empire of said family of Gods.
That's also merely the most relevant quote we have, others already affirm Tenebrae's undisputed supremacy throughout history.
xolthol
Originally posted by AncientPower
The Zakuul Pantheon is a family too, even referenced in the prior expansion.
It seems pretty ambiguous tbh. In addition at this period (start of the expension) we didn't know the god's familly it was only in Iokath part after the extension that we discover it.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
AFAIK, Valkorion has absolutely no knowledge of Iokath or of the 6 Gods. It's stated that Zildrog was built entirely separately from the 6 Gods.
AncientPower
@Xolthol, the Zakuul Gods are already referenced in KOTFE.
@Skillz, it was Valkorion who imprisoned them in the first place.
One Big Mob
Originally posted by AncientPower
Except it's a blanket statement, Valkorion and Vaylin make up the most dangerous family in SWTOR. Valkorion is fully aware of their actual power, he has spent centuries informing the Eternal Empire of said family of Gods.
That's also merely the most relevant quote we have, others already affirm Tenebrae's undisputed supremacy throughout history. Did you know that "dangerous" isn't synonymous with power?
For example:
If you were locked in a room with Jeffrey Dahmer as opposed to a Prime Mike Tyson, your chance of having a cock shoved through your decapitated head would be much higher in the Dahmer room. Dahmer is infinitely more dangerous than Tyson.
Which is why an active family that actively kills with active glee is considered more actively dangerous than a 'secret' "family" of Robo Gods that hibernate for millenia.
I also think Valk is above them, but let's not mix feelings with actual statements.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
It isn't stated anywhere that Valkorion imprisoned the 6 Gods AFAIK, and iirc it's explicitly stated that Valkorion has never visited Iokath.
AncientPower
His name is literally the Slayer of Izax.
They are clearly known on a mythological level and Tenebrae must've discerned his function and origin to boot.
But again, none of this matters, his most powerful accolades still stand.
Freedon Nadd
Valkitiate has been turned into a One. From now on he shall be known as Uncle.
xolthol
Originally posted by AncientPower
@Xolthol, the Zakuul Gods are already referenced in KOTFE.
Just as a legend nothing really tangible...
Freedon Nadd
Maybe because the mythological Zakuul Gods were based on the real things and highly overexaggerated?
What Vitiate did was monotheising the polytheist Zakuulans.
He was the Messiah of Zakuul.
The Six Gods and the Slayer of Izax is nothing more but the symbolic theme of Vitiate exposing and imposing his beliefs upon them. Not everything in Star Wars needs not to be taken literally. Some things are purely poetic metaphors.
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