Sidious' Battle Meditation

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Darth Infidus
Where does it say that Sidious has Battle Meditation?

Darth_Glentract
In the Thrawn triliogy.

exanda kane
Yeah, I think in the beginning of Spectre Of The Past; but is it actually confirmed im not sure. I think Mara Jade said it.

Darth_Glentract
Pellaeon and Thrawn were talking about it after Joruus did it.

Darth Travizzle
Don't know. Next Question.

Darth_Glentract
Travizzle, please stop posting crap like that. I've read three of your post and they are all like that.

Darth Somebody
Palpatine was highly trained in Battle Meditation. In the Thrawn trilogy, Grand Admiral Thrawn knew of this power, and tells his lieutenants that that was why they were defeated at Endor. Palpatine was running them on with Battle Meditation - and when Vader killed him - the sudden loss sent the Imperial Starfleet in disarray, and allowed the Rebels to defeat the Empire.

koolruningz
This is backed up in ROTJ when you see Luke dragging Vader across the Shuttle bay while the Imperial soldiers just run around like headless chickens.
Surely they would have seen something wrong with a known rebel dragging their half dead Commander-in-Chief into a shuttle and blasting off to god knows where. This to me seems to indicate that they relied heavily on the Emporor's battle meditation.

Fishy
That to me seems to indicate they had no loyalty's and just wanted to get the hell out of there.

Emperor Revan
Yeah, the space station was gonna blow up. Why not get out of there?

The thrawn trilogy shows that Thrawn believes Palp has it, but it's not proven. Joruus on the other hand, basically is proven to have it.

General Zodiac
I heard from wikipedia.org that Sidious was using the BM at the Battle for Endor and when he died that sudden shock was their downfall or something.

Emperor Revan
It might be true, and I would actually say there's more proof towards it but I really do think Lando would've succeeded in destroying the second Death Star if the Emperor had survived. And also if you watch the fight, more TIE's are being destroyed than Rebel fighters and there are way more TIE's even.

exanda kane
Well, in a way you could say the force was with the Rebels but the Emperor had battle meditation for the X-wing vs. Tie Fighter thing.

Darth Plagues
In was in the Thrawn Trilogy...Thrawn confirmed it. Darth Sidious knows a lot of things and Battle Mediation is one of them. If I'm not mistaken he was the first in EU to have it.

Fishy
Well he may have had it, but it wasn't that powerful and he never used it, and definitly not at the battle of Endor. If he would have used it back then he wouldn't have had the time to talk to Luke.

Darth Plagues
Yeah it wasn't that powerful thats why the Empire was the greatest Empire in that galaxy ever. And thats why the Empire won so many battles. Wasn't that powerful... laughing...did you even read the Thrawn trilogy? How can you say its weak. You have no clue of how powerful it was. Its powerful, becasue that is obviosly why the Empire became so great.

Fishy
Won so many battles? They had more troops superior army's and it defeated the republic by making it fight itself...

Okay, yeah that was powerful. And at how many battles would the emperor have been? Very few, hardly any. So how many times could he have used it?

Darth Plagues
Have you read the ANH scroll it says "The Rebel Alliance has struck its first victory against the Evil Gallactic Empire." 20 years the Empire has defeated the Rebel Alliance in battle!

Fishy
How many ships dit the Rebel alliance have again? How long ago could it have started to strike against the Empire? How big a threat was it really, and did Palpatine ever keep himself busy with it? He wasn't even on the first Death Star that would have ended the rebels if it wasn't for Luke because he wanted to do soemthing else (probably eat pie)

The Empire did not need his battle meditation.

Darth Somebody
It is odd. But they had NO choice in the matter. The Emperor was the most powerful being in the Empire. And none of the officers - save for Thrawn and Mara Jade - knew that the Emperor was using the Battle Meditation on them.

Darth_Rankkor
Originally posted by Fishy
How many ships dit the Rebel alliance have again? How long ago could it have started to strike against the Empire? How big a threat was it really, and did Palpatine ever keep himself busy with it? He wasn't even on the first Death Star that would have ended the rebels if it wasn't for Luke because he wanted to do soemthing else(probably eat pie)

The Empire did not need his battle meditation.

I'll have one strawberry pie please

Darth Plagues
O well Sidisous has it and its powerful I don't care what you think....just because he's not in any of the KOTOR games where everyone fights the same and you always most of the time have two people at your side and you don't defeat over a million people in a duel...I guess he's weak huh?

General Zodiac
Why didn't the StaDestroyers do anything at Endor? I mean when the fleet went to point blank range.

Fishy
Originally posted by Darth Plagues
O well Sidisous has it and its powerful I don't care what you think....just because he's not in any of the KOTOR games where everyone fights the same and you always most of the time have two people at your side and you don't defeat over a million people in a duel...I guess he's weak huh?

What the fcuk does that have to do with anything???

Seriously. Have you ever seen the Emperor use it, he didn't use it at the two most important battles the Empire has ever fought.

Yavin and Endor, he didn't use it on Hoth and the Empire still kicked ass. So he never needed to use it, the Empire won without it. He may have had it, but I can not think of any piece of evidence that would make me think its powerful or that he used it a lot if at all. If he doesn't show up at battles or does not use it at battles that could decide the faith of the Empire why would he use it any other time?

Darth Plagues
He used it on Endor it was stated in the Thrawn trilogy. They only lost because Vader threw him into that pit...that also was stated in the Thrawn trilogy.

And about the Yavin battle...he wasn't even there how is he supposed to use it (duh) He was on Courscant...didn't you watch ANH...He was in the senate.

Fishy
I know... My whole point, he was in the senate he was doing things he thought were far more important then leading a battle that could decide his faith.

And why was that? Because nobody needed him and his battle meditation.

And could you please explain to me how come everybody needs to concentrate on battle meditation and Sidious can still somehow use it and keep his eyes on a fight and talk to Luke and Vader? No way in hell.

Darth Plagues
You have proven my point. Darth Sidious was powerful enough to use battle meditation and still run a conversation...beats the heck out of Bastilas and the Exiles.

Fishy
I have proven nothing, the Exile was indeed weak. How does Sidious talking mean he uses battle meditation.

exanda kane
I agree with Fishy like usual. He is the more respectable one!

Tangible God
I'm not gonna explain whether he had it or not, I'm tired, he did, it was confirmed, and you can see it. But if your on space station about to blow, you make some dust clouds towards the escape pods and screw your superiors

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