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two quotes from Mace himself:

"We are keepers of the peace, not soldiers"
and
"The Geonosians aren't wariors. One Jedi has to be worth a hundred Geonosians"

so, the first time he says he's not a fighter, but the next time he seems most eager to kick some butt... but they are keepers of the peace!!!

a bit contradictory from mace there, yes..don't know why.

ok, you can think that he gets energised before the battle, but then... he is supposed to be 100% good, getting overconfident is a weakness, not to be made by a Jedi Master of his kind!

I see no contradiction. Just because the Jedi are not soliders does not mean that Windu does not have a very good appreciating of how damn danerous a Jedi can be!

and then they got wacked, nearly destroyed...

... by droids, not by geonosians

even better

a hundred times better then them, but the droids are thousand times better then Jedi

Jedi are keepers of the peace, but they are ready to fight if they must....to keep the peace of course

Aah whatever, as long as I get to see hundreds of Jedi kicking droid but!!!

they're not warriors

Wars not make one great...

It's very cool, but don't expect to see very many other Jedi battling it out. It pretty much focuses on the main heroes. The others are just background material. Plo Koon is virtually non existent and I don't think we see Ki-Adi do anything. It is pretty obvious that Lucas cut the Plo Koon and Ki-Adi adventure on the Droid control ship. When the others are in the circle and the droids are ordered to cease fire, Ki-Adi and Plo Koon are escorted into the circle by droids. To me it looked like no more than 10 Jedi survived that battle, but it is never mentioned.

OB1 and Anakin must be quite powerful if they survived while some members of the Jedi Council didn't.

They are powerful. People underestimate Obi-Wan. He is as good as any Jedi except maybe Yoda. They had to be tired during the Dooku duel, which may be why they were so easily beaten by him.

Yeh, I guess he's just sitting back and watching the battle progress while they're in the fight of their lives.

I think the point made about Dooku is that he really IS a peerless swordfighter (small green guys excepted). It always pays to have a superior villain.

And yerss, a Jedi may still be worth a hundred droids, but they were outnumbered by far more than that!

Yeh, you can only block so many laser blasts at once. Plus you got to worry about Jango causing some havoc, at least till MAce finds him...

One Jedi could not defeat 100 droids.

otherwhise they all won!
Jedi aren't superior to everything, imo

Probably not. Theory still holds, though; it wasn't lack of prowess that gave the Jedi trouble, it was the ambush and weight of numbers.

Which is why the Republic crumbles. All it takes is a guy with an ammy and you can take over the galaxy. That is why TPM was an important film. It showed the tail end of peace in the galaxy.

because they had peace and relied on the Jedi to much they got burned

It worked for thousands of years.

yes, and then they thought it worked well, till Dooku went seperatist...

I think that Sidious is the real reason, but if you want to say Dooku, so be it.

The Republic wasn't a single entity. It was simply a loose federation of sovereign systems. That is why they have no standing army. The Jedi could keep the peace but they weren't designed to withstand a full military assault.

What we realize from the film is, we find out that the Darkside is taking away the Jedi's true power. That power is being able to see things before they happen. Even Yoda says only the Dark Lords of the Sith know our weaknesses. They now know they are in serious trouble, especially since Dooku(and it is pronounced do-koo, like a cukoo(sp) clock) escaped.



And Tyranus is pronounced like tir-ran-us.

thank you for the pronounciation...

Sadly, there are two ways to pronounce cuckoo- COO-ku or kuk-oo

or Cocu or Barcelona FC

A word that Rhymes with Dooku is poo poo as in crap.

great, now only need to see Ep III

Yeah right.... I my view it even more than ever has no higher status to me than a mere prologue. AOTC is much more what SW is about: saving the universe.

It's a shame they don't save it. TPM was a great set up to the other 5.

If you'd paid attention: they do in ROTJ. It takes about 4 movies but then they do succeed.

And still, in AOTC the Jedi THINK they're going to save the universe from the separatists...

Not really.

I see TPM as one movie, not as part of a saga... for now...

You will in 2 days.

err... three actually

Either way.

not either way! 24 hours difference!

Sorry.

OB1 thought they'd saved the universe frm the separatists.... only Yoda questioned it. It's still the same theme though, Helmet.

The battle was a succes!

- A succes you say? Begun the Clone Wars has..

So I agree with the honorable queeq

Only Yoda knows the consequences of what is going on at this point.


That is why he is the Master.

I guess Mace realises it too. He just doesn't say it.

or he was temporarly not available

I don't think he does yet. At least he doesn't appear to.

Based on what?

You'll see.

Hmmm