Shadow the Hedgehog

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General Zodiac
Coming this winter...
The Ultimate Life Form...
Renegade of Hero?
You Decide?

Shadow the Hedgehog

Do you think this game will be as good as the Sonic Adventures?

SaTsuJiN
considering shadow went ghetto and now shoots people.. me thinks not.. no expression

CorderaMitchell
Yea whats with that, he has speed, why would he need guns?

General Zodiac
Shadow has:
Chaos Blast (Special Move)
Chaos Control (Special Move)
A Sword
A Gun
A Rocket Launcher
and a bunch of other stuff not yet revealed. Plus the first Sonic game that let's you chose if you want to be good or evil. It looks pretty cool.

SaTsuJiN
sonic teams time would be better spent trying to re-invent sonic (and what made it so fun to begin with), rather than just adding a bunch of pointless abilities to a character (he's cool dont get me wrong) who hasnt had much story to him since his debut in sonic adventures 2

darht dude
even better anyway shadow shows his true power and the powers he uses in the other games


Happy Dance Happy Dance Happy Dance Happy Dance

LiL nAstY GirL
Since when does he have guns?

shadow12
since his new game

CorderaMitchell
Seems decent at best...

General Zodiac
This game seems to be about his past but who knows?

CorderaMitchell
It isn't. Its 200 years after the events of the last, but he's got amnesia...

shadow12
he still is as fast as ever he is useing weaponry now

General Zodiac
Yeah think off Shadow as a really fast E-102 or E-123.

dAngEr_Is_gO!
My son is a big fan of Shadow, so I'm sure he'll love it. Not sure about the guns bit though.

General Zodiac
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It isn't. Its 200 years after the events of the last, but he's got amnesia...
No it takes place in his past. Sega.com says it. You finally get to uncover his past.

CorderaMitchell
Originally posted by General Zodiac
No it takes place in his past. Sega.com says it. You finally get to uncover his past.

I thought it was before, oh well, whats with the amnesia then?

General Zodiac
? Maybe it starts out in the past and goes into the future.

CorderaMitchell
I'll see for myself.

General Zodiac
I saw Sonic beaten up in a part so...

Burner
I think it would be alot better without weapons, I mean c'mon. Its a damn hedgehog.

General Zodiac
Alright it's not Shadow's past (50 years ago) or future:

Shadow The Hedgehog game picks up the story after Sonic Heroes. Playing through the game will allow the player to help Shadow, and in turn themselves, discover what really happened.

General Zodiac
Anywho:
Are you glade that Sega is allowing your actions to decide if Shadow is a good guy or villain?

General Zodiac
So what's your favorite Sonic game. Mine is Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

Red Superfly
Oh God, this game is just like Sonic Heroes but with a gun and a black Sonic.

They need to quit with these crappy Sonic games. They really do suck.

Gimme a 2D (done with amazing 3D graphics, but with a side-on scrolling view) Sonic game and that'll be fine.

General Zodiac
Like Sonic Dash.

General Zodiac
And you don't start with any weapons. You don't have to use weapons. You can pick them up from falling enemies. (Sega.com)

tragic mulatto
My favorite sonic games in order ( I wont add the Game Shadow The Hedgehog until I get to play it.)

1. Sonic 3 and Knuckles. ( The complete Sonic 3 )
2. Sonic adventure 2 (Battle)
3.Sonic adventure
4.Sonic The Hedghog 2
5. Sonic CD
6.Sonic The Hedghog (the first one)
7.Sonic Heros.

( I never played Knuckles Choatix so I dont know were to put it in the list.)

All of them are Good to me though. Hey I got 3 questions concerning Shadow The hedgehog.

1. Is it the Shadow from SA2?
2. Does it explaine what happeend to Shadow in SA2?
3.Why is Sonic and Knuckles in the game? ( I whant those two to be in the game though)

powerfulone1987
Originally posted by ESB-1138
Coming this winter...
The Ultimate Life Form...
Renegade of Hero?
You Decide?

Shadow the Hedgehog

Do you think this game will be as good as the Sonic Adventures?

I read somewhere that Sonic Adventures wasn't a good game.

I wouldn't know though, I haven't played it.

Blue Dragon
I already created this topic, go to my thread. And that didn't last long, use the search...oh wait it's disabled...try looking for it anyway I guess...

Shadow doesn't need guns, what the heck he do with them anyway? Guns? Shadow? He has powers for crying out loud!

Red Superfly
Like I said, they can keep doing this gimmicky shit. It aint gonna change the fact that we all want a 2D Sonic game, with JUST Sonic, doing Sonic-y things.

Why can't they do a SOnic game in 2D but with graphics like Paper Mario or Smash Bros. 2D gameplay but 3D visuals.

Sonic doesnt work in 3D, and he's slower.

Shadow and his guns can kiss my arse.

Blue Dragon
I would have to agree...but I'm getting it anyway, I can't turn down a Shadow game, even if he does use guns...

Gen. Chambers
Anyone got Shadow the Hedgehog yet?

TwisterGameX
Is this game called shadow with a gun ?

Gen. Chambers
It's called

Shadow the Hedgehog

Blue Dragon
It's out 27th Nov. Oh, about a week! Yay! Infact, even though he has a gun, it doesn't seem that bad, just makes him look badder. Plus for distant enimies he can shoot them away from them.

I don't know. I still think he shouldn't have one. Half of me says "What the heck is he doing with a gun!? He doesn't need a gun, he has speed!" While the other said is saying "It doesn't seem that bad."

I am really confused...

Gen. Chambers
Nov. 27th? For where. It came out the 15th down here. The game is really fun...a lot better then Sonic Heroes. I usually go around with a saber and kill anyone that gets in my way. Using Chaos Control and Chaos Blast is very very fun.

Blue Dragon
In the UK. We haven't got it yet but I will buy it, looks good.

Gen. Chambers
It is good. You can get 10 different endings. I got 3 at the moment.

Blue Dragon
No it's out now. Don't know when I'll get it. Probably next week or a few weeks. Have you saw the advert for this? It's awsome, looks great!

Shadow x 20
I beaten the game 100%

big grin big grin big grin

Blue Dragon
Can't even play the game! Why is Britain often the last to get something? sad

TwisterGameX
Well I hear the game sucks ass.

Shadow x 20
Don't know and the game isn't bad. It's up there with Sonic Adventure 2.

Thunder Fox
i need help on the game

JKozzy
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Well I hear the game sucks ass. Ditto. Huge disgusting fat ass.

Thunder Fox
it actually better than you think choose the light side.....

Shadow x 20
My favorite mission is mission 2 Hero Side. You can get a motorcycle in that one.

Blue Dragon
So he's got a motocycle now? Can he just run!? Is a different change, not like the same old same old.

Shadow x 20
Yeah he can run. But its cool to have the motorcycle. He can also get a jeep.

Thunder Fox
running is what you normally do but its awsome for him to ridethings i like the creatures you can ride on

Shadow x 20
I like the creatures you can kill.

Thunder Fox
i'm renting sadly but uts great althouh i keep getting eggman as the final boss >.<

Shadow x 20
He's the last boss like 3 times, Black Doom like 3 times, and Diablon and Sonic like 4 times.

Thunder Fox
really?

Blue Dragon
I'll like to ride a snowboard like from the first Hero level in Sonic Adventure 2. Have it black with fire on it! Oh yeah, that I would love! yes big grin

Shadow x 20
I wish a board was in it. That would be cool but you get to race Sonic in one of the levels.

Blue Dragon
Being a 12+ is a great thing! Bit of strong language & violence. I like 12 rated games better than 15's & definetly 18's, they suck big time (most of them! Too much violence.)

Can't wait to get it, might get it for xmas! big grin Xmas day I'll be in my bedroom playing it! stick out tongue What other attacks can he do? Any Chaos Control or other moves?

Shadow x 20
He has 2 specials
Good: Chaos Control (Warp far ahead)
Bad: Chaos Blast (Destroy foes from a 20 foot radius)

He has the homing attack still and punching and a lot of weapons

Red Superfly
Games officially suck now.

Even Sega have "urbanized" (notice the wicked cool "z"wink their franchise just like almost every other developer.

Take a super cool, pure character like Sonic The Hedgehog, and f*cking go all EA on it. I know the franchise has been in decline ever since the move to 3D, but this is taking the piss.

A teleporting black version of Sonic, wielding a bike and guns with 'tude and angst. Since when does a teleporting hedgehog need a bike? Why am I even asking this absurd question?

I'm sick of this anti-hero crap. Sonic, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, Prince Of Persia, they're all getting "da angst". All we need now is Mario wielding a sword in a beatem up that pits him against the Koopa Gang Ballas, with a side mission consisting of Luigi pimping Princess Peach to the whole of the mushroom kingdom.

Why the hell has the Sonic Universe crossed over with ours? Since when were humans (realistic-ish, unlike Dr Robotnik) ever a mainstay? Cities and streets suck, we want Mobius.

Everytime I see games like this, I keep picturing Peter Griffin sat at at the desk with "Game Designer" written on his door.

Shadow x 20
You think the game sucks not I. Go to ign.com and the viewers gave it a 8.7 which is pretty good for games now a days. I like Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic Team did a lot better with it then Sonic Heroes.

SaTsuJiN
Originally posted by JKozzy
Ditto. Huge disgusting fat ass.

double ditto.. does sonic team know how to program anymore?.. me thinks not.. no

Shadow x 20
Why does everyone complain about the usage of guns and cars?
Sonic Adventure
Had a mini-kart racing and Gamma was shooting

Sonic Adventure 2
Had 2 racing levels and Tails/Eggman was shooting

I for one find that using a motorcycle made it easier to attack the Black Arms ship for it gave you a more steady control to aim and shot. I saw guns to be a good thing for now you won't have to take chances as much to go in to attack the enemy. Shadow the Hedgehog is a good game that allows you to be Good or Evil. The music is also good. The levels are great for the wied varity of choices you can make. Still it isn't as good as the Gensis Sonics but it beats Sonic Heroes and Sonic Adventure (Which was very slow due to the adventure field crap)

Vidina
I just got the game

Blue Dragon
Sonic Heroes was a bit naff. Try flying with Tails, controls well dodgy! I couldn't escape the lava at the end of one level & died! glare Sonic Adventure 2 good, love the Chaos! happy Only downside is when you jump with Sonic/Shadow. Sometimes they don't just jump, they do a homing attack!

Shadow does not need a bike though & lots of weapons. He's a very powerful hedgehog, he can run at the speed of light. Jak & Daxter is okay with guns & cars, I mean he only used to punch/kick so no big deal. Love it in that game, but not this one!

That thing about Mario with a sword, it just reminded me of Zelda. Sure hope they don't give him at gun or a monster truck, that would so be too much!

Shadow x 20
Shadow runs at the speed of sound not light. Only when using the lightspeed dash (I'm a Sonic fanboy what can I say?). And yeah Sonic Heroes isn't too great but I love the music. Still at first I hated the idea of Shadow using a gun I thought:

Shadow + Gun = Crappy Game

But I changed since I played the game because I find myself using weapons all the time so now I'm more of a

Shadow + Gun = Kick @$$

Vidina
I felt the same way about the game

Blue Dragon
Speed of sound then, same thing. I too loved the music in Sonic Heroes, This Machine is the greatest song ever! They should have this kind of music on Top of the Pops instead of rubbish stuff! Sonic Adventure 2 Battle has great music too. The song when you take down that big monster in space (middle story.)

SaTsuJiN
well lets try the scenario on a different character...
what if one day, while strolling through the streets of a pleasant hyrule.. link throws down his fairy hat.. wraps a do-rag around his head, whips out two mac-10's and decides hyrule needs a lil "Urbanization" ?.. doesnt that just destroy all that the franchise has done to build its name?.. I would think so sad

Blue Dragon
That would be awful! cry I love my Zelda how it is thank you very much! I am still going to get this game, still not happy about guns & motorbikes but there you go.

Shadow x 20
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
well lets try the scenario on a different character...
what if one day, while strolling through the streets of a pleasant hyrule.. link throws down his fairy hat.. wraps a do-rag around his head, whips out two mac-10's and decides hyrule needs a lil "Urbanization" ?.. doesnt that just destroy all that the franchise has done to build its name?.. I would think so sad
Zelda won't work like that because Zelda is based in the older days and Shadow was in the present day. Shadow the Hedgehog has some great songs like "I am" and "Chosen" and of couse "All Hail Shadow." I love the game. It is a lot better then Sonic Heroes (Even through This Machine is the greatest Sonic song of all time) and better then Sonic Adventure 1, because I felt the adventure field made the game slow instead of being fast paced like Sonic Adventure 2.

SaTsuJiN
SA2 was definately much better.. I just feel as though sonic team spends way too much of their development time shoving mini games in, when they could be implimenting more of the main gameplay elements..

i.e. "Ok you're sonic, go save the world.. OMG wait!... look at these cute chao!"

Shadow x 20
I like the Chao. Sonic Adventure 2 is the best of the newer games with Sonic Advance 3 second and then it is a tie between Sonic Rush and Shadow the Hedgehog

Blue Dragon
Okay, this is when my 'girly' side shows....oh Chao are sooo cute! happy I hate one called Suki (just changed it from Topaz.) She or he is a blue angel Chao & so sweet. She/he died once to be born again (when in a pink cacoon, look on internet for more details) & when it's born again, can make it an immortal Chaos Chao!

Once it was level 99 on everything, I mean everything! Lots of fruit & animals, then when it was born again, everything goes back to one. mad So mad about that!

But I'm no girly girl only because I love Chao's (awww), after all, I love so many non girly stuff. Looks something like this:

Shadow x 20
Yeah Chaos are cool. I had 3 reborn again but 1 did and vanished forever and that was my favorite chao. Cheese is cool.

Blue Dragon

Red Superfly
Originally posted by Shadow x 20
Why does everyone complain about the usage of guns and cars?

It's not necessarily the fact that it uses guns and cars that makes it naff, it's because Sonic has never worked in 3D, and the whole Shoadow spin-off game reeks of formulaic repetition.

The Sonic Adventure games are dire. Sonic Heroes was abysmal, and Shadow The Hedhog is just as bad, but unlike the others, Shadows game has lost that simplistic likability factor that the old school 2D ones once prided themselves with.

It's just Sonic Adventure, a game that I thought was amazingly average, except all "urbanised" and "cool". It's such a boring, lame and in my opinion, rediculous concept. The lack of context and a distinct style is also troubling. To see the likes of Dr. Robotnik mixing it up with real-style Earth humans is just bizarre, and the constant references of the real world makes me wonder just what Team Sonic are thinking.

Lets face facts here, if Sonic wasn't such a big hit back on the Megadrive, these new 3d games would be dismissed as average granny-tricking platformer crap and it's only in the hope that maybe, one day, Sonic will return to his past glory, that is actually keeping the franchise alive.

I just have a problem with Sonic games not being Sonic games. Sonic is 2D, high speed platforming with bright and colourful, interesting visuals. Shadows game is as far from a good Sonic-like game you could come up with.

I view Shadow as a victim of the machine that is the video games industry. Video games are really starting to bore me in general, save a few.

Blue Dragon
I have to disagree strongly there. Sonic works great in 3D, especially when running. I love the old games, they were true classics. But 3D Sonic games are good too. Sonic Adventure & " " 2 Battle were good. Sonic Heroes okay but not great.

Red Superfly
You are entitled to your opinion, but I can't stand Sonic in 3D.

Shadow x 20
Just wait for the new Sonic game to come out on the 360 and PS3. They only characters will be Sonic, Tails, and Eggman. They are going back to their roots and making the new Sonic game one to be worth your time and money.

Blue Dragon
Only 360 & PS3!? What about the Revelution? I probably getting PS3 anyway but not a 360! sick What game is this? I haven't heard about it. But please...you gotta have Knuckles, he's the best. Tails!?

If you don't like Sonic in 3D, fair enough. If you don't, you don't, but I like it in 2D & 3D but 3D more; they are more fun instead of just running about. Looking for Emerald pieces is my favourite. The bosses are more in depth too instead of just bashing Robotnik's machine. yes

Shadow x 20
Nope just Sonic and Tails and Eggman. Sonic Team is basically starting the Sonic saga over. And Sonic is the best character that's why he is the star (that and the game Knuckles had sucked). it may come out for the Nintendo but the release date for Sonic is suppose to be before the Rev. comes out.

CaptainBen
THIS game SUCKS MAJOR DICK

In game informer it was fith in the worst game of the year

JKozzy
CaptainBen is a well-informed gamer.

Read these two reviews, scanned from the issue of GameInformer that was just mentioned. One is a 4/10, the other a 2/10.

"This isn't Shadow the Hedgehog. It's that miserable Broken the Hedgehog!"

http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/8953/scangi5de.th.jpg

Shadow x 20
So let me get this straight. You're basing a game on what other people tell you.

JKozzy
And from playing it at my friend's house, and I completely agree with it.

Shadow x 20
I could care less what other people say about a game. I like Shadow the Hedgehog.

JKozzy
And I couldn't care less of what you say, Shadow the Hedgehog is a terrible and broken game. Just because the character's likeness are there doesn't mean it's a good game. You seem like the type of fanboy that would support any Sonic game, be it a Grand Theft Auto interpretation or any deviation. Shadow with a gun? Come on. The last two Sonic games for consoles have been piss-poor in quality. The next-gen installments show potential, but we'll see.

Shadow x 20
You can't say the same about Sonic Rush.

JKozzy
Originally posted by JKozzy
The last two Sonic games for consoles have been piss-poor in quality.Nintendo DS is more a handheld than a console.

Shadow x 20
I know. The Sonic Advance series and Sonic Rush are the best new Sonic games

JKozzy
Indeed they are. I thoroughly enjoyed Sonic Advance 2 and 3, and played a demo of Rush at a local gaming store.

Shadow x 20
Sonic Rush is better then Sonic & Knuckles

CaptainBen
I like porn but that doesnt me i like the playboy video game

Shadow x 20
okay...

Shadow x 20
Originally posted by JKozzy
And I couldn't care less of what you say, Shadow the Hedgehog is a terrible and broken game. Just because the character's likeness are there doesn't mean it's a good game. You seem like the type of fanboy that would support any Sonic game, be it a Grand Theft Auto interpretation or any deviation. Shadow with a gun? Come on. The last two Sonic games for consoles have been piss-poor in quality. The next-gen installments show potential, but we'll see.

I don't like Sonic Heroes. I like the music and last boss fight but that's it.
I don't like Sonic the Fighter, Tails High Flying Adventure, and Knuckles Chaotic

CaptainBen
im just ****in with ya

Blue Dragon
Originally posted by Shadow x 20
So let me get this straight. You're basing a game on what other people tell you.
No, he was referring to the article. And stop fighting, if you couldn't care less, why keep going on about it? It's opinions, so what?

I might get it for xmas. This or Jak X (looking foward to playing Jak more but we'll see.)

CaptainBen
Blue we stopped fighting a long time ago

Blue Dragon
Not you, Shadow & JKozzy.

The Ones
so Shadow sucks?

cry im getting it for X-mas cry

Red Superfly
Aww, dude, don't worry, you may like it.

I personally hate it, and everything it stands for, but that doesn't mean someone won't enjoy it.

I'm getting Sonic Rush after playing it on a friends DS, looking forward to that. Even though I have a PSP I am really looking forward to getting my DS, Mario Kart and Sonic Rush.

Shadow x 20
Not in my point of view. Shadow is a good game because if you go to reviews where actual players rate it they normally give it a 8.5

Red Superfly

Family_guy725
Originally posted by Shadow x 20
Not in my point of view. Shadow is a good game because if you go to reviews where actual players rate it they normally give it a 8.5
ok ok hold on a second just a second ago you were getting mad at a person who listened to a review.

but anywho rented this piece of crap wasted good money too i used to be a sonic fan but these new things are crap i hated this its is like impossible to shoot anything and the camera is terrible i quit okaying after a short while i give this game a 3 out of 10

The Ones
i got it for chistmas. boy was i disappointed. but i got other things for x-mas to make up for that crap game:

Games:

1) King Kong (PS2)

2) Quake 4 (PC)

3) Civilization 4 (PC)

4) The Warriors (PS2)

5) Call of Duty 2 (PC)

6) SSX: On Tour (PS2)

7) Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones (PS2)

DVD's:

1) Scary Movie Trilogy Box Set

2) The Complete Jonathon Creek Box Set

3)/4) Hustle Season 1 and 2

Books:

1) Star Wars-Dark Lord: Rise of Darth Vader

Clothes:

1) Gap top

2) Trousers.


so x-mas wasnt all bad. i may be selling this game soon

SaTsuJiN
Shadow the Hedgehog
4.8
poor
- "Shadow the Hedgehog fails to live up to its pedigree due to terrible controls, an uncooperative camera, and an overall lack of effort. unless you're a very forgiving Sonic fan, you're better off avoiding this entire game."


The Good: Good music; several paths to take through the game.
The Bad: Terrible controls; awful camera placement and control; underwhelming visuals; frustrating level design; no target lock makes shooting completely useless.
-----------------------------------------

ah.. I love gamespot.. they cut right to the chase.. happy

however, that new racing game with sonic coming out actually looks promising... hopefully it follows the footsteps of sonic R

Blue Dragon

CrazyEyes
I just recently got this game with some christmas money and got it over Sonic Heroes. I've liked Shadow since his first apperance, and yet I was plesently surprised by the game itself. It is now without flaws and there have been times where I have simply tried a target jump, hit the enemy and gone sailing over the edge into death. The use of choosing your own path is good, yet the level designs are very much opinion. I found it so frustrating chasing Eggman on Neutral when battling the three Shadow androids...until i got a targeted rocket-launcher and blasted them to pieces. I've also tested the good and evil sides for a few levels, but find myself going back to neutral for my first stab at completing the game. The use of the guns is a little wierd in my opinion, but they help, but I did want something more from a Shadow-based game. I'm now waiting for a Metal Sonic based game.

Blue Dragon
A game such as that might not be a bad idea...it might be a better sucess than this game. Damn game! no

Jet_The_Fox
It is sooooo awesome. I lurve Shadow the Hedgehog. I have eight of the ten endings and cannot stop obsessing over it.

Blue Dragon
It took me about 1 hour to finish dark mode on first level! You gotta shoot all 35 guards which is a right hard task! The last 4 were a challenge to find! Only way to find them was to get my blue bar full & go through some of the level while destroying what's around me.

This wasn't the first time I finished the level though, I finished in normal mode first time. Music good though, love 'I Am' I think it's called. Too bad the game isn't has good as it's music. erm cry

Shadow x 20
I like listening to the music while I'm on the computer.

Blue Dragon
The music's awsome! I love I Am (All I Am)! I want the full versain, I only have the minute & half one on my computer but there's more because I have the lyrics. sad

Shadow x 20
You can get it by defeating Devil Doom (for the game)

Son of Man
Devil Doom is my favorite 2nd favorite Sonic final boss. (first is FinalHazard) It is cool the way he throws bulidings at you. Hey did anybody notice how sonic seems to be getting even more like DBZ as the series goes on? (I mean Shadow now can shoot out blast's, and blast through buildings now.)

Monthor
That's not new. Sonic did something just like that as Super Sonic in Sonic Advance 1

Blue Dragon
Originally posted by Monthor
You can get it by defeating Devil Doom (for the game)
I mean to listen to on the computer.

darht dude
no matter what shadow can destroy almost anything.
cosidering he is the ultimate life form.

ESB - 1138
okay, but you know when it comes down to it Sonic will always be on top out of all the other characters.

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