Doomsday and Darkseid vs Thor Thunderstrike and Beta Ray Bill

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golem370
I was just thinging

thesilverspider
the thunder gods take this one

masterbruce
Doomsday and Darkseid takes this easily

joesha28
Thor and his Thunder friends

Cosmic Cube
Thor and BRB, easy.

OB's = blocked.

Doomsday = beaten unconscious.

Read Stormbreaker. Bill will beat the brakes off of DD.

masterbruce
read hunter/prey

Doomsday will eat Mjolnir and the other hammers for lunch, then take a nice little nap as the Thor Corp attack it, then wakes up and crushes them with a few bone spurred fists

Darkseid will be sitting around, enjoying the spectacle

Cosmic Cube
Read Stormbreaker. Bill will shatter every bone in Doomsday's body with Stormbreaker.

Doomsday has Kryptonian weaknesses too. stick out tongue

Thor will bounce the OB's back into DS's eyes with Mjolnir, killing him. stick out tongue

masterbruce
in Hunter/Prey

Superman with Motherbox technology, Darkseid, and Waverider could not even lay a scratch on Doomsday

unless Bill is up to Tyrant/Galactus level power, he will be demolished

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by masterbruce
in Hunter/Prey

Superman with Motherbox technology, Darkseid, and Waverider could not even lay a scratch on Doomsday

unless Bill is up to Tyrant/Galactus level power, he will be demolished

It doesn't take Galactus level power to beat him. A pissed off Hulk would trash DD.

Bill smashes planets like its nothing. Doomsday will be a puddle of blood, bones, and flesh when Bill is done with him.

masterbruce
okay, how many characters were so powerful that the only way to defeat them is to transport them to the end of time, preeminating their existence altogether....let's see:

savage hulk - nope
juggernaut - nope
thanos - nope
tyrant - nope
doomsday - yep

at Hunter/Prey, Doomsday was impervious to physical as well as energy attacks, he was able to launch his bone spurs at a force strong enough to go THROUGH superman like a hot knife through butter

so I really don't think Goldilocks and his gang is gonna touch Doomsday

Dizzle
The win here doesn't have to be permenant... DD has been killed lots of times. And he got really really weak when he got smart too.

And it would actually probably take something like moving him to the end of time to permenantly kill Juggs without mind rape.

8bitChris
Thor and Thunderstrike are dead. Darkseid takes out Beta Rey Bill while Doomsday puts the corpses in a blender and hits frappe.

Cosmic Cube
Hulk has been banished into other dimensions, but never at the "end of time." In Marvel, there is no end of time.

In DC, every strong guy gets launched into space of trapped in the phantom zone. It's plain stupid.

Methinks Stormbreaker would bash DD's brains out. He has Kryptonian weaknesses as well. wink

Savage Hulk (Onslaught Saga) was immune to physical/energy/psionic attack. He's Doomsday + limitless strength. Hulk Smash.

If all else failed (which it wouldn't,) Thor throws DD into a time warp, or a dimensional rift. Darkseids a total poos. Thor and friends win.

Dizzle
BRB would mess up Darkseid. Superman does it, so can Bill. Mjolnir and Stormbreaker can absorb Omega Beams, so there goes that little argument. Now physically... does Darkseid smash through planets? Didn't think so. Does Doomsday? Right. Does Superman? Oh no! So BRB and Thor can probably surpass the amount of physical damage that killed DD before... Meaning he'll die again. Darkseid goes down with half a Godblast.

masterbruce
Originally posted by Dizzle
The win here doesn't have to be permenant... DD has been killed lots of times. And he got really really weak when he got smart too.

And it would actually probably take something like moving him to the end of time to permenantly kill Juggs without mind rape.

Darkseid, Superman, and Waverider were not able to lay a SCRATCH on Doomsday at Hunter/Prey level, I don't see anyone being able to even hurt him other than Galactus, Odin, Thanos, Tyrant and those of that level. Doomsday at that point was evolved beyond physical and energy attacks.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by masterbruce
Darkseid, Superman, and Waverider were not able to lay a SCRATCH on Doomsday at Hunter/Prey level, I don't see anyone being able to even hurt him other than Galactus, Odin, Thanos, Tyrant and those of that level. Doomsday at that point was evolved beyond physical and energy attacks.

WTF!? Galactus!? What the f**k?

Doomsday had supposedly adapted to a certain level of physical/energy attacks, making him invulnerable to them. Higher levels would hurt Doomsday. Doomsday resists physical damage at a high degree. He isn't immune to it.

masterbruce
Originally posted by Dizzle
BRB would mess up Darkseid. Superman does it, so can Bill. Mjolnir and Stormbreaker can absorb Omega Beams, so there goes that little argument. Now physically... does Darkseid smash through planets? Didn't think so. Does Doomsday? Right. Does Superman? Oh no! So BRB and Thor can probably surpass the amount of physical damage that killed DD before... Meaning he'll die again. Darkseid goes down with half a Godblast.

We're not talking about the doomsday that was killed by superman, and I think even that doomsday would defeat the Thor Corps, remember he trashed the justice league before decimating superman

the Hunter/Prey doomsday is FAR more powerful than that Doomsday (who destroyed the entire Justice League and Superman)

if you say that BRB can smash through planets, then he is approaching Tyrant level power, cuz silver surfer nor Thor do not even come close to smashing planets, that would make BRB about 1000x stronger than Thor or SS...if that's the case, then maybe BRB can hurt Doomsda

masterbruce
Cosmic Cube, you realize that Superman, darkseid and waverider were not even able to injure doomsday the slightest...do you really think that Thor, BRB and THunderstrike are THAT much more powerful than them?

Cosmic Cube
DOS Doomsday beat the JLA on PIS. The JLA could have taken him easily.

Surfer blows up planets, stars, etc. easily. Never saw Thor do it, though. BRB is not Tyrant level. He will beat down Doomsday, though.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by masterbruce
Cosmic Cube, you realize that Superman, darkseid and waverider were not even able to injure doomsday the slightest...do you really think that Thor, BRB and THunderstrike are THAT much more powerful than them?

lol...

Read Stormbreaker. Bill is not to be f*cked with.

Thor could go into Warrior Madness (10X speed, strength, power,) and crush Doomsday. The friggin Infinity Watch couldn't stop him.

masterbruce
Surfer blows up planets, star, etc easily? Then why do people here even equate surfer with superman? Cuz superman prob can destroy a mountain at full power, which is 1/1000000000th the magnitude of a planet, which is 1/1000 the magnitude of a star...that would make Surfer 1000000000000000000x more powerful than Superman on an objective scale

if Surfer had the power to destroy stars and planets, he would treat Hulk, Thor, and almost anyone like a bacteria that wouldn't even be noticed

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by masterbruce
Surfer blows up planets, star, etc easily? Then why do people here even equate surfer with superman? Cuz superman prob can destroy a mountain at full power, which is 1/1000000000th the magnitude of a planet, which is 1/1000 the magnitude of a star...that would make Surfer 1000000000000000000x more powerful than Superman on an objective scale

if Surfer had the power to destroy stars and planets, he would treat Hulk, Thor, and almost anyone like a bacteria that wouldn't even be noticed

Surfer is a total pacifist. He wouldn't use planet/star destroying power on someone unless he absolutley has to. Surfer could easily turn Doomsday or Superman into stone. Surfer is above the Hulk. Thor has Mjolnir, which is just about as powerful as Surfer is (a full shot from Mjolnir can bust open a planet.)

Surfer definitely <<<<< Supes.

masterbruce
Im really starting to not like the way comics are written especially in regards to consistency

the power to destroy a star, no just a planet would require an insane amount of power, prob equivalent to MILLIONS of nuclear bombs going off at the same point at the same time

now if Surfer had the power of millions of nuclear bombs, then its kinda ludicrous for him to face anyone less than Galactus

also, if Thor's Godblast could bust open a planet, then it would as well possess the force of millions of nukes, yet that didnt even faze juggernaut, who also has been shown to be knocked around by venom on occasion!

An analogy equating this silliness would be if I had a weapon that could destroy a mountain range with one blast, yet on another day, my weapon couldn't even break a piece of tissue paper

I think oftentime comic book writers get carried away with hyperbole (destroying planets and ripping apart stars sound cool) and forget anything about consistency

I mean, if Thor's godblast could destroy a planet, do you really think the avengers would have any trouble against any bad guys short of Galactus

masterbruce
Also you said Surfer is a pacifist

but didn't he need to go all out against Tyrant, why didn't he unleash his star busting powers then?

Cosmic Cube
Galactus is the embodiment of a past universe. He can unleash galaxy destroying power. Even Nova, a weaker herald , has the power to destroy a star. It's no big deal for a herald of Galactus.

Juggernaut is knocked around by Venom, but not hurt. It is impossible to hurt Juggernaut. Shoot Juggernaut with a blast that would annhihilate a solar system. He will laugh at it. Nothing hurts the Juggernaut. Period. Unless you can undo Cyttorak's magic, you can't physically hurt him.

Thor's Godblast was enough to make Galactus retreat. I takes a lot out of him, though.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by masterbruce
Also you said Surfer is a pacifist

but didn't he need to go all out against Tyrant, why didn't he unleash his star busting powers then?

Tyrant has near galaxy busting power. The other heralds are nothing in comparison.

masterbruce
so why doesnt Thor use this godblast on the enemies of the avengers or any of the bad guys in marvel?

I know you're going to say it takes alot out of him, but surely battling it out with the bad guys takes alot out of him too.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by masterbruce
so why doesnt Thor use this godblast on the enemies of the avengers or any of the bad guys in marvel?

I know you're going to say it takes alot out of him, but surely battling it out with the bad guys takes alot out of him too.

Like who? Thor blew up Desak with the Godblast, and he was "immune" to magic. He uses it pretty often.

Not nearly as much as a Godblast does.

masterbruce
like anyone and everyone Thor fights, ...Hulk for example

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by masterbruce
like anyone and everyone Thor fights, ...Hulk for example

Hulk can take a LOT. He was withstood planet destroying attacks before, and the Hulk has destroyed a planet twice the mass of the Earth with one punch. He doesn't have any limit to his strength, or durability. Thor never really lets loose with Mjolnir against Hulk, anyway. He goes for the brawl almost every time. Why doesn't Thor simply Godblast all of his foes? Who knows?

masterbruce
ok, thanks for answering my questions

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by masterbruce
ok, thanks for answering my questions

Very welcome. wink

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