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freakin sweet i am getting it soon i heard it is a good game

Yah its so awsome its a deffinate buy

good

sweet u should join shadow fire galaxy and hook up with me im level 80 highest level

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Im thinking of getting this, has anyone got the Starter Kit? What differences did they make to the original game?

Im tossing up between WoW and SWG, I dont know which to get..

WoW is more user-friendly.. although I havent played SWG, I know the graphics for that game are fairly outdated.. perhaps backfire can offer some insight.. or another who's more acquainted with SWG

SWG Sucks IMO. You gotta pay, thers alot of nering, and etc.

Originally posted by Dark Envy
SWG Sucks IMO. You gotta pay, thers alot of nering, and etc.


Welcome to the saying "GET A JOB".

For WoW you have to pay also, but its worth it if your either fan of the series.

If your a Star Wars fan then you'll love it. If you'd like a rip-off of WoW with a less bastardish Dev team then go for WoW...

I've always prefered SWG - I mean I'm a master smuggler ffs, how cool is that!

Yeah Im a Star Wars nerd, dont play a lot of Warcraft, but my friend has WoW and it looks pretty good. I'd get SWG but Im not sure what its like, none of my friends have it. I dont know whether its worth the money or not.

Do NOT get that game, PvP sucks IMO. The game is just super messed up. WoW has amazing PvP, and PvE alike. SWG < WoW.... The Force < Magic. Jedi < Shaman. Creature Handlers < Hunters. Don't get me wrong, I love Star Wars but I'd rather run around as an Orc and kill people with my boar opposed to wasting money.

Can you not flaunt your opinions CobbleR. If you had realised that even me, I hate Warcraft games (although I did start WoW) have said the good things about it.

Yes, you can run around as an orc (lotr rip off) on a boar and other such wild beasts, whereas on Star Wars Galaxies you can have your Twi'Lek Imperial Stormtrooper ride around on a Taun-Taun (from ESB). It's Great!

Originally posted by exanda kane
Can you not flaunt your opinions CobbleR. If you had realised that even me, I hate Warcraft games (although I did start WoW) have said the good things about it.

Yes, you can run around as an orc (lotr rip off) on a boar and other such wild beasts, whereas on Star Wars Galaxies you can have your Twi'Lek Imperial Stormtrooper ride around on a Taun-Taun (from ESB). It's Great!

If anything LOTR is a rippoff of WoW series. ( I like LOTR so dont get me wrong )





JK

almost every game based on fantasy is a LOTR rippoff.

But besides that it looks like a good game, I'm not touching it tho -risk of getting addicted right before my exams-

Originally posted by El_NINO
If anything LOTR is a rippoff of WoW series. ( I like LOTR so dont get me wrong )





JK

Oh yeah. So Tolkien plaguerised the WoW franchise for ideas did he? Back in the trenches in the Somme in 1917?

And a good idea Fire.

JK stands for joke remember

Originally posted by exanda kane
Can you not flaunt your opinions CobbleR. If you had realised that even me, I hate Warcraft games (although I did start WoW) have said the good things about it.

Yes, you can run around as an orc (lotr rip off) on a boar and other such wild beasts, whereas on Star Wars Galaxies you can have your Twi'Lek Imperial Stormtrooper ride around on a Taun-Taun (from ESB). It's Great!
Um, have you gotten a WoW mount before?

Lol i didnt see the JK bit, thought it was initials for the guy who wrote it.

Yes I know, there classy, and remember I played the game as i said, but Star Wars mounts (although not too great ingame) ffs its Star Wars!

And "ffs" it's the world of Warcraft you're running around. People who have played WCIII: FT will have revered its world the same way you do the Star Wars world.

Both games prolly appeal to their own fanbase, 90% of a game is still gameplay, and gameplay is individual. So comparing two games even from the same genre is a bit dumb

Yes, but Star Wars has been embedded in popular culture for thirty years, whereas most people have not heard of Warcraft. When you remember watching Empire Strikes Back the first time when you were 7 it means so much more to be able to ride your taun-taun about in your adulthood

Ok, ignore the whole fanbase thing, look at it in terms of gameplay.

Someone said the PvP was crap...I cant be stuffed looking back..but why is it crap? I cant make up my mind on which is better just because someone says one game is better and the other is crap

Im a Star Wars fan, but I also like the warcraft world, I'd have just as much fun riding a star wars mount than I would riding a warcraft mount. Its the same thing. Im looking at what makes one game better. If its just a visual difference, then I'll just go get SW.

You can listen to the biased things all the WoW fanboys are saying or you can just trial both and see what you like better.

Originally posted by exanda kane
Yes, but Star Wars has been embedded in popular culture for thirty years, whereas most people have not heard of Warcraft.
Dude. That reeks of bias.

Originally posted by exanda kane
You can listen to the biased things all the WoW fanboys are saying or you can just trial both and see what you like better.
What he said^, but replace the acronym 'WoW' with SWG.

Originally posted by DarkC
What he said^, but replace the acronym 'WoW' with SWG.

A taste of WoW fanboyism. And about Star Wars being part of popular culture for the last 30 years, I'll just give you the benefit of the doubt that you have a second rate knowledge of popular culture.

Star Wars Galaxies sucks. SOE treat their customer base like shit and act as though said customers are ****ing morons.

Having played both, I can say that World of Warcraft is, without question, the superior game.

Originally posted by exanda kane
A taste of WoW fanboyism. And about Star Wars being part of popular culture for the last 30 years, I'll just give you the benefit of the doubt that you have a second rate knowledge of popular culture.
The attitude you are taking on is "Let's buy it because it's Star Wars."

Seriously, just because a game has the words Star Wars in its title does not make it necessarily the greater game. Gameplay, sounds, interactivity, etc. does.

SWG Review
WoW Review

WoW = 9.5.
SWG = 7.5.

Go figure.

I didnt say it was a greater game. No, not at all and if you had the thought to read earlier posts you would quite clearly see that I have played both.

Yet you have no nostalgia whatsoever playing WoW when its Star Wars, its great.

You also seem to be acting on the very false pretence that I'd buy any game that had Star Wars on it. Wrong, its common knowledge that most Star Wars games suck big donkey dick.

So go and get off'it will ya.

I believe neither WoW or SWG are offering free trials at this time..

I guess some good points to consider about wow

-you can solo to 60 if you desire (some mmo's require you to party whore)

-the pvp is nicely thought out

-the game is still early in its life, so there is much to be changed in future patches

-for those who say you're stuck doing end game raids, there are PVP weapons / armor via reputation in battle grounds as an alternative

-I have yet to find a class that I hate. However, 'do' choose your class wisely as it can become quite an investment beyond 60

Hey. Leave out the fanboyish bickering, please.

Thankyou. WoW is a better game if you look at it from that perspective, but the whole point of MMORPG's is to Roleplay. The community was more into battling onscreen animations than socialising in an incredibly geeky way.

Originally posted by exanda kane
I didnt say it was a greater game. No, not at all and if you had the thought to read earlier posts you would quite clearly see that I have played both.

Yes, I have read your posts. And you do say earlier that you prefer SWG over WoW. It's pretty clear from that statement that you believe it to be the better game.


Well, I can hardly be contradicted for assuming that, considering you did say "ffs it's Star Wars!"

Yes, I have read your posts. And you do say earlier that you prefer SWG over WoW. It's pretty clear from that statement that you believe it to be the better game.

Prefering something over another doesnt automatically divulge what is better. Surely you've heard of a little something called personal opinion ? So obviously, its not clear.

Well, I can hardly be contradicted for assuming that, considering you did say "ffs it's Star Wars!"

Yes, well Original Star Wars Timeline + MMORPG = Muchos Funno.

Your not suggesting you don't like original Star Wars are you? Because if that were the case you'd be line for a good ol' fashioned piece of mocking slander

Originally posted by exanda kane
Yes, I have read your posts. And you do say earlier that you prefer SWG over WoW. It's pretty clear from that statement that you believe it to be the better game.

Prefering something over another doesnt automatically divulge what is better. Surely you've heard of a little something called personal opinion ? So obviously, its not clear.

Well, I can hardly be contradicted for assuming that, considering you did say "ffs it's Star Wars!"

Yes, well Original Star Wars Timeline + MMORPG = Muchos Funno.

Your not suggesting you don't like original Star Wars are you? Because if that were the case you'd be line for a good ol' fashioned piece of mocking slander
That's the base for Star Wars fans, I'd guess. For WarCraft it's the world of Azeroth.

I've read the Gamespy reviews for both; WoW seeks to deliver as a game, rather than experience the landmarks and the famous people, yadda yadda. It helps though, because there are; but popular as it is, Warcraft still isn't as widely known

SWG does deliver a more worldly experience and specifically the cities, like Theed. However, the reviewer's bottom line:
"So, what's the bottom line, then? When it came time to score Galaxies, I initially thought of all the bugs and broken areas, the steep subscription fee and poor customer service, the often slow-paced gameplay and as-yet unrealized potential of the game. And yet, even with all these drawbacks, I find myself hooked -- there's fun to be had, if you're willing to dig through the frustrations."


I don't really discriminate between the films simply because of newer technology used, but I do like action. That's why I liked ROTS and TESB.

Originally posted by DarkC
That's the base for Star Wars fans, I'd guess. For WarCraft it's the world of Azeroth.

I've read the Gamespy reviews for both; WoW seeks to deliver as a game, rather than experience the landmarks and the famous people, yadda yadda. It helps though, because there are; but popular as it is, Warcraft still isn't as widely known

SWG does deliver a more worldly experience and specifically the cities, like Theed. However, the reviewer's bottom line:
"So, what's the bottom line, then? When it came time to score Galaxies, I initially thought of all the bugs and broken areas, the steep subscription fee and poor customer service, the often slow-paced gameplay and as-yet unrealized potential of the game. And yet, even with all these drawbacks, I find myself hooked -- there's fun to be had, if you're willing to dig through the frustrations."


I don't really discriminate between the films simply because of newer technology used, but I do like action. That's why I liked ROTS and TESB.

So you seek to discredit me with your cutting and paste ability? How amusing...

Hmm. Well I don't actually see any point in what you just said? Infact i don't see the point your trying to make at all.

And you only like action? How bland your life must be.

Originally posted by exanda kane
Prefering something over another doesnt automatically divulge what is better. Surely you've heard of a little something called personal opinion ? So obviously, its not clear.

Yeah, I know. And it was pretty much personal opinion of what you said there. You said: "I prefer SWG." Which means that you believe it to be a better overall game. Which is personal opinion.

Ta-da.

Did they really had to add the Jedis? Wasn't this game more fun with the dancing Wookie?!

Originally posted by DarkC
Yeah, I know. And it was pretty much personal opinion of what you said there. You said: "I prefer SWG." Which means that you believe it to be a better overall game. Which is personal opinion.

Ta-da.

I'm sorry. Come again?

Personal opinion does not constitute what is a better game, if your still stuck on "Oh but i wanna kill stuff cos I suffer trememdous emotional upheavel whenever I'm around real people" or to be more concise 'gaming technicalities' notion that is.

I sincerly hope you were joking when you wrote thsat last post.

Something can be categorised into opinion, somethings are fact. It is a fact that Star Wars has made a hugge impact on popular culture.

And please actually tell me what you were actually on about two posts ago, in standard english preferably.

And the amount of jedi is a serious problem. Wankers the lot of 'em. And that is why Smuggler have maximum ownage.

Originally posted by exanda kane
Thankyou. WoW is a better game if you look at it from that perspective, but the whole point of MMORPG's is to Roleplay.

And that is why world of warcraft provides seperate servers.. for those that wish to role play (RP Server).. those that prefer regular non-roleplaying and no ganking (Normal Server).. PvP server for those that like it semi-lineage style.. and then the latest : PvP-RP servers.. which combine the two

Originally posted by exanda kane
I'm sorry. Come again?

Personal opinion does not constitute what is a better game...
Unnecessary arrogant remarks aside; basically, you say that 'personal opinion' does not constitute what is a better game. Okay, so that means that no one has a say on how good a game is.

Then who's supposed to judge whether the game is 'good' or not? I was under the impression that contributions of personal opinions on the game was supposed to give it a rating, etc. Games are bought by people because they personally feel that this game is better than others. You wouldn't buy a game that you personally felt to be more lacking than another one, right??

Bottom line is: Personal opinion does have contribution to how good you believe a game to be. It's you who decides whether a game is good or not. Otherwise, it'd be like having your parents tell you what games to buy.

Unnecessary arrogant remarks aside,

I wasn't aware that simply posting a segment of a Gamespy SWG review qualified as an attempt to discredit you. Discredit you on what ?

That's because I wasn't trying to make a point, really. I was providing information. Not all posts have to have a solid, concrete point.


I prefer action over other elements, that's all. It doesn't blot the rest of the elements in a film out. I didn't say that action was the only thing I liked, did I?
*checks*
No, I didn't. So no, I am not bland.

Originally posted by DarkC
Unnecessary arrogant remarks aside; basically, you say that 'personal opinion' does not constitute what is a better game. Okay, so that means that no one has a say on how good a game is.

Oh dear. Your really too much into this. I suggest some horlicksto relax you. I don't llike the word 'basically'. It's not a good word and it contributes nothing towards the aim of sentence. And it also has an air of arrogance about that doesnt help you, since you already misunderstood what I said. I said "Personal opinion does not constitute what is a better game, if your still stuck on "Oh but i wanna kill stuff cos I suffer trememdous emotional upheavel whenever I'm around real people" or to be more concise 'gaming technicalities' notion that is." I'll interject for you benefit.

Your personal opinion on a game will not change the fact that one game has better graphics, a higher resolution, a smaller learning curve or a simpler interface.

Then who's supposed to judge whether the game is 'good' or not? I was under the impression that contributions of personal opinions on the game was supposed to give it a rating, etc. Games are bought by people because they personally feel that this game is better than others. You wouldn't buy a game that you personally felt to be more lacking than another one, right??

Indeed I would. Infact I was taken the other into choosing what game; Prince Of Persia: The Two Thrones on PS2 (Thats Playstation 2 for you sir!) or the Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall for PC (Personal Computer, just to let you know). Prince of Persia has by far a better graphics engine, a higher resolution, and how convinient, faster loading times. Yet in the end I bought Daggerfall. I am pleased with that purchase aswell. I even hand enough money to buy a T-Shirt with a Gun on it saying GREEN PIECE in Camden would you believe. How wonderful!

Oh and in answer to your question, I believe there called critics.

Bottom line is: Personal opinion does have contribution to how good you believe a game to be. It's you who decides whether a game is good or not. Otherwise, it'd be like having your parents tell you what games to buy.

Thats it, stomp your foot down god sir! Well I beleive you were stil writing in that under the impression that you had found a lop in what I wrote. Good try!

And you rebel! Talking aout your parents like that.

Unnecessary arrogant remarks aside,

Yes! Arrogance will get you nowhere in live sonny jim!

I wasn't aware that simply posting a segment of a Gamespy SWG review qualified as an attempt to discredit you. Discredit you on what ?

I enjoy your lack of humour.

That's because I wasn't trying to make a point, really. I was providing information. Not all posts have to have a solid, concrete point.

Don't worry, i;ve read the reviews, I've played the games, yes ihave to much time on my hands.


I prefer action over other elements, that's all. It doesn't blot the rest of the elements in a film out. I didn't say that action was the only thing I liked, did I?
*checks*

Oh dear. Well everythings bettter now isnt it.

May the Force be With Yee
No, I didn't. So no, I am not bland.

p.s. there really wasnt a lot to say.

Damn typos from my buggish keyboard grr....

Originally posted by exanda kane
I don't llike the word 'basically'. It's not a good word and it contributes nothing towards the aim of sentence.

Your personal opinion on a game will not change the fact that one game has better graphics, a higher resolution, a smaller learning curve or a simpler interface.

Indeed I would. Infact I was taken the other into choosing what game; Prince Of Persia: The Two Thrones on PS2 or the Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall for PC . Prince of Persia has by far a better graphics engine, a higher resolution, and how convinient, faster loading times. Yet in the end I bought Daggerfall.

Well, I guess you're the first person to find fault to a simple word such as "basically" that I've met, let alone heard of. What about "fundamentally", then?

Better graphics/resolution makes a better game? Sure, feel free to stick to that, but most other people seem to think otherwise:
Good Game or Good Graphics? Nothing wrong with being part of a minority, I guess.
As for the learning curve/interface factors: Again, it varys per person; some people might have a higher learning pace and be able to figure out a game with a more complex interface and concepts than other people. While others stick to simpler concepts.

So you bought Daggerfall even though PoP was far superior in the graphics/resolution department and loading times. Nothing else? I'll assume then.

Which means that Daggerfall is superior to PoP in other elements even though its visuals are outdated and the loading times are longer. Or you just wanted to save money. I guess money would be an important deciding factor.

Oh oy, you came out your basement then.

Well, I guess you're the first person to find fault to a simple word such as "basically" that I've met, let alone heard of. What about "fundamentally", then?

Infact you'd probably find many. Of course not the sort you wouuld hang around with. But people too much up their own arses andpeople with a general apitude for standard english will most likely back you up. And fundamentally? There's no need even to say that.

Oh and lets face it, you obviously dont get out much so people you would know to say that are pretty much non existent for you.


Better graphics/resolution makes a better game? Sure, feel free to stick to that, but most other people seem to think otherwise:
Good Game or Good Graphics? Nothing wrong with being part of a minority, I guess.
As for the learning curve/interface factors: Again, it varys per person; some people might have a higher learning pace and be able to figure out a game with a more complex interface and concepts than other people. While others stick to simpler concepts.

So you didnt actually read nor understand my post. Very well, I'll reitirate. A better game technically (this means the mechanics of a game) will have a higher framerate and better resolution than another game. This makes the games technically better. Of course you may have a personal opinion on the one you like best, but that does not get in the way that one engine is more advanced and superior. So I think you find yourself in a minority which includes yourself and Dick Cheney.
As I have just said, technically one will be easier/faster than another, again the player will have a personal opinion but on the technicaal side of things, one game will be easier, one will be harder.
You have just contradicted yourself (although you actually havent been able to make a point yet) when you say "others will stick to simpler concepts", hence the "simpler" interface.

So you bought Daggerfall even though PoP was far superior in the graphics/resolution department and loading times. Nothing else? I'll assume then.

Oh quite the debator you are. Of course I bought Daggerfall for other reasons, but these were matter of opinion, PoP is by far a better game technically, and as many would say (because PoP kicks yankee butt!) they prefer Prince Of Persia.

Which means that Daggerfall is superior to PoP in other elements even though its visuals are outdated and the loading times are longer. Or you just wanted to save money. I guess money would be an important deciding factor.

No it doesnt. Nothing makes the game superior. I simply like RPG's, hence why I bought a game that was technically worse than one I could have bought.

Hav Fun!

Originally posted by exanda kane
In fact, you'd probably find many. Of course not the sort you wouuld hang around with. But people too much up their own arses andpeople with a general apitude for standard english will most likely back you up. And fundamentally? There's no need even to say that.
Yes, I 'get out much'. And no one so far that I have met in real life have problems with the usage of the word "basically". In fact, my English teacher uses it a lot. No one's ever said: "I don't like that word." before.

So you're part of a minority I'd say, considering the fact that it really is a widely used word.

Yes, I understood your post perfectly the first time. And while a game can beat another in technological terms, does that make the game itself better? Maybe, but not so much enough to be a deciding factor. And that is the point I've been trying to make. Sure, a game could be beautiful but have a shitty concept that ruins the game completely. But another can have worse visuals and yet gameplay that makes the other seem obsolete.

Exactly, you bought Daggerfall even if its visuals were outdated. That pretty much follows what I've said above. Personal preferences, another deciding factor.

You bought it because it was superior in terms of concept(You said you liked RPG's, remember) in your own opinion, not in terms of technicality.

Okay, too much hostility here. As I already asked once for it to stop, I'm going to close this thread, and you're free to open another one. However, I want to see NO bickering, and keep it on topic - SW Galaxies only.