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The boards seem to be in a bit of a lull at the moment, and I remember the passion with which some of the previous, well handled, tournaments brought to our posts. There's also a bevy of new posters, so why not, eh?

This is largely, and shamelessly ripped from Evangel's previous tournament.

1 everyman type (Superman, Thor, Shazam, Sentry, Majestic, etc.)

2 fairly powerful types (Iron Man, Namor level)

2 powerful street characters (Spider-Man, Luke Cage level)

2 street level characters--allowed a modicum of power, Iron Fist (as his fist is no harder than Cap's shield), Silver Samurai (he makes a sword unbreakable, Cap's shield is already unbreakable), (Batman, Cap, etc.)

Drafts for the Supes archetype may begin now, if anyone is interested, or this can be relegated to nothingness in the annals of forum mishaps. Any problems, requests, questions or anything else, just post here, or PM me if it's an outstanding situation.

um...i dun really understand how this works....someone elaborate?

You pick characters for each category. If there are enough people, names will be drawn from a proverbial hat to match you up for battles. You and your opponent deliberate over who will win while others cast their votes. After a day or so, depending upon the turn out, we move onto the next match. Those that win are put into the semi-finals.

Quick Freeze, not to be a dink or anything, but I specified drafts for the Super/Everyman archetype only. Nice team, but we want to spread it out so as to make it a bit more fair.

about the supes type, who is the maximum power? if it slike evangel then odin and thanos are not allowed i suppose?

in that case i choose silver surfer. do i need to post a link?

Don't bother with a link. Like Evangel's, no super-powerful Odin/Thanos types.

YES fianly this time i will win
and night crawler isnt street level

I choose LOBO!

and if he isnt alowd i want doomsday. and there is now way hes not alowd

and do we all need at least one female again?

umm acualy, i wanna take doomsday over lobo

mhmmm
who u picking?

i was thinking in Martian manhunter, but surfer is more powerful in my opinion, and since my nick is norrin it would be kinda strange if somebody else picked him.

o yea, norrin radd is the surfer, i always forget that for some reason

i doubt they will be alowed, i tried them in evas slugfest (which was awsome by the way) and i wasnt alowd, and i still almost won via my extreemly powerfull herald (who im not picking in this tourny to give others a chance)

sorry i'm a little slow. . .i'll uh. . . just uh go ahead and delete the rest of the team now that everyone knows who i chose. . .

no nate was tried for herald type

i still get superman though right?

whoops i uh. . . i cant edit since it's been more than 15 minutes. . . so uh. . . i guess i'll just go crawl in a cave somewhere and uh hope a bear eats me

Yes, you still get Mr. Kent, Quick Freeze.

No telepathy to the full extent. Mild suggestions and illusions are okay, but shutting down minds is a no-no. We want this to be fair and fun. Also, teleporters are fine, but no ejections from the arena. So far we have 3 players. I want a couple more at least, and if needed I shall draft a team myself just to flesh the tourny out.

crazyspinz, just in interest of mixing it up, and delving into the larger pot of lesser used characters, one female per team is required.

Also, unlike Evangel's, which was kick-ass, it isn't necessarily arche-type vs. arche-type. If you've got a fairly powerful that you know can take out an opponents herald/everyman for a specific reason, give an issue number and see if general voting conjecture lets your tactic pass. I.E. last tourny, I chose Songbird from Thunderbolts to specifically combat Sue Storm (it was seen in Thunderbolts #27, IIRC, that solid sound can phase through Sue's force fields) but Songbird was in a different power category and wasn't given the chance.

I implore people to delve into some more obscure/lesser used characters, we all know the outcome of Supes vs. Hulk or Batman vs. Spider-Man, but what about some of the lesser used characters that wouldn't cut the mustard given their own thread?

As for the triple posts Quick Freeze, that's okay, we were all bewildered newbies at some point

thanks but i didnt mean the new blue one. . . i dont care much for him. . . too power. i actally meant the classic red blue and yellow bird/plane in the sky superman. with all of the original powers except invulnerability. i dont want him to be invulnerable thats boring.

explain this to me...slowly...i ride the short bus

Is this only Marvel or DC? If not, I'd like Apollo (gotta love a man with Superman's powers who does not hesitate to kill the enemy) from Authority. If just Marvel/DC I'll take Sentry.

Nevermind. I think I'll just go with Sentry.

Evangel's tournament had certain characters who weren't allowed, for instance Rogue for her life draining ability, and everything was allowed except anime and manga.

Whoa, where've you been Quick Freeze? You mean the electric blue Superman? That was over years ago. He's back to the good old pajamas and powers now.

Khellendros--Sentry has made very few apperances, most were done in Jae Lee's mosaic type style, so none of us are completely sure what he can do. I'll grant you Apollo, but no Sentry, you would just be unable to make an argument.

Thank you Krissy, yes, there are certain power types off limits. Rogue is off limits, unless you want to neuter her powers a bit. No anime and manga.

ok i think you are right, and like we all know surfer has too many vs threads in here. (and i already used him in evas tournament)

if you allow i can change to Martian Manhunter, i know its not obscure, but at least is lesser used.

That is fine.

Meh, I didn't think Sentry would be a problem since you used him as an example of what an everyman was. So, since Roguewas tossed out, I probably wouldn't be able to use Sauron (half pterodactyl man who absorbs life forces to survive) would I?

If no one is Hulk, Doom, Colossus or Abomination I'll be one of those.

-AC

If you want to disregard the energy sucking powers, you can have Sauron, as he has other abilities too. Sorry that I used Sentry as an example, it just came to mind and I should have thought before doing it.

Those are all open, so you may choose any of them, Alpha Centauri. Doom would be on Iron Man level, as his usual physical abilities aren't in the Superman range. Colossus is in the 100 ton range, but doesn't have much beyond that, whereas people in the Supes category have super-speed, energy powers, etc. I would tend to put Colossus in the Iron Man level.

Can I get a roll call to see who's participating, and hopefully we can proceed?

I'm Hulk.

I'm also, in.

-AC

Alright, there seems to still be a bit of interest floating around. As people chime in to say they're taking part, you all may also draft the rest of your troops. If you have any questions, I'm sure you can find a way to ask.

cool, please tell me if i choose someone in the wrong area:

team:

- Martian Manhunter
- Nimrod
- Mr Sinister
- Superboy
- quicksilver
- Elektra
- Taskmaster

Can I get some links on Superboy? I think he's more Iron Man level. And Nimrod is Supes level, so either him or Martian Manhunter, sorry.

Sorry, I misunderstood you about Nimrod. Your team now is fine though. Again, sorry.

scoob you can still choose more 3 guys, and strange his superman type, not iron man.

Quickfreeze, Nightcrawler is a bit higher than street level. Teleportation just gives him too much of an advantage along with his nigh-invisibility in darkness. If you need any help picking another character out, I'd be happy to help.

Yes, but for a few months DC and Marvel did combine to do an Amalgam line, and he's not just some fan creation, so I'll allow him.

is castle ok?

1 everyman type--Black Adam (DC)

2 fairly powerful types--Iceman (Marvel), Ultra Boy (DC)

2 powerful street characters--Wolverine (Marvel), Beast (Marvel)

2 street level characters--Black Panther (Marvel), Captain America (Marvel)

i wouldn't mind changing my shang chi to taskmaster if no one else picked him yet
and could i use carnage as "powerful street" level?

sorry mate, but taskmaster is mine.

carnage is spiderman level i think

spider-man is powerful street, you boys are saying the same thing!

yep i know, i was saying i think it is, so i think you can have it, lol

I'll give this a go....

Deathurge
Absorbing Man
Ultron
Psylocke
Gamorra
Black Panther
Prometheus

Quickfreeze, ol' Frank is a-okay. Scroobles, Tasky is already chosen.

Dark Crawler, can I get a link for Ultra Boy? I'm not sure what category to put Carnage in, so can someone give me some evidence for either Powerful Street, or Iron Man level?

Currently she's just telekinetic. Does she still have her shadow powers? Panther's already taken, Krissy, so choose again.

sorry then

No prob, Bob.

alright! im most lookin forward towards the two lower levels. those are always more interesting because they rely on more than just powers or abiliteis, but their wits and whatnot.

hey freeze whats the diference between superwoman and superman?

supergirl is a young female version of superman. the only difference for the sake of this thread is that she has little less experience than superman and does not fully understand how to use her powers to the absolute full extent. so same powers, but somewhat childish, (even though she's 19). she could beat pretty much anyone super man can but probably wouldnt be able to handle his outstanding feats. you get the idea? sometimes im bad at explaining things. . .
superman strength
superman speed
superman breath
flight and heat vision x-ray vision super hearing freeze breath

ok thanks, but if superman has more expirience why did you choose her instead of superman?

Okay....

Deathurge
Ultron
Absorbing Man
Gamorra
Hannibal King - to replace Psylocke
Prometheus
Bullseye

Can I have links for Prometheus? I'm not familiar with him, sorry.

i chose her because you are required to have a girl on the team and choosing supergirl instead of superman changed my team as little as possible. plus i think she's more interesting. she didnt go through all those changes superman did that confuse me. she'll make for more interesting arguements but she still kicks ass

You could also use Power Girl if you want a more experienced Super-lady.

so are we drafting lower levels now to? and i did get doomsday right?

who is power girl?

A member of the JSA, with the usual set of super-powers on par with Superman.

Crazyspinz--we are drafting lower levels now, I'm not sure on Doomsday, so can I get a link as I don't know much about him.

Teams are comrpised of 7 people. So you have 3 more people to pick, from Fairly Powerful, Powerful Street, Street Level, respectively.

ah, ok thought it was one from each

and isn't ultron classed as Everyman power level as he's made of adamantium has super strength and that encephilo beam thingy?

I'm happy to change Ultron if Scarlet says he's not allowed.

who is ultron? can someone post a link.

and scoob bullseye is already taken

i just read a profile on power girl, but i'm gonna stick with supergirl because she's more powerful. i mean supergirl can beat pretty much anyone superman can, just i dont think the writers would let her win in an unconivable that superman has been famous for. there are maybe one or two people that supes can beat that she cant. i very confident she can beat the hulk aswell

Looks like there's only four participants. This is going to be quick

http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/ultron11.htm

The robot Hank Pym built

Yeah, Ultron's pretty powerful, but then again, Wonder Man is class 100, can fly and has some energy manipulation abilities. I could easily class him out of Faily Powerful, but I'm willing to let some stuff slide.

Sure, take him.

So how many participants are there? If it's an uneven number I'll slap together a team to even it out and make the process easier.

2nd level

Exodus
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/e/exodus.htm
and
Colossus (no bio needed)

and here is one for doomsday
http://www.dcuguide.com/Who/Doomsday_Bio.php

you can draft your entiry team.

Hmm...who shall I draft?

Tables are a bit turned here, so I have to consult any of you who are competeing, may I have Super Skrull for a Fairly Powerful?

anyone (maybe with the exception of reed) is fairly powerful level, in the fantastic four. if you join all 4 powers i think is herald level the least.

more opinions?

is hawkeye ok........ even with all the arrows and stuff he has no innate power so he'd be classed the same as batman and those types

street level : black panther
elektra

powerful street: bishop
Gambit

so here is my full team, for the recap
doomsday
exodus
colossus
bishop
gambit
blackpanther
elektra

That's a pretty good team

mhmmm

yes it is but black panther is on darkcrawler team

and elektra is on mine

with scarlet we are 7 now, one more would be great, 8 is the perfect number

acualy 1 is the perfect number, its the square root of itself, it self squared, it self divided by itself and mutiplied by it self...........

but 8 would be nice

well 3 is the number of perfection

what i meant is 8 is an excelent numer for a tournament

and have you already decide your street level members?

Moondragon
Gilgamesh
Machine Man
Radioactive Man
Baron Zemo
Iron Fist

Not official, yet, as I have no Everyman. Any suggestions? And is this list okay? As the moderator for the general thread, I need the rest of the participants to moderate me, to keep this fair. Or I could be an abusive mod. "Give me your shoes!"

Also, can someone give me a list of people participating?

we are sevem participants at present time:

krissy von doom
crazyspinz (missing the street members)
scoobless
quick freeze
scarlet spider (missing the herald level)
darkcrwaler
and me

K, thanks, norrin

Crzyspinz--go for Batroc! No one's picked him yet!

How about DareDevil?

Hey! I'm still in this!

Everyman type - Mr. Majestic

Fairly powerful types - Wonder Woman, Black Bolt

Powerful street characters - Jack Hawksmoor

Street level characters - Midnighter, Daredevil

I know im missing one powerful street character, I'm still looking.

blackbolt is everyman type, and wonderwoman probably to. scarlet what do you think?

and jack seems pretty tough for spiderman level http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/h/hawkmoor.htm

Black Bolt is everyman?? If others can have Ultron and Nimrod, I think my two are fine. I'm interested to see what Scarlet says though.

are you for real, black bolt put hulk unconscious with one scream

Yes yes and Nimrod pimp-smacked Juggernaut around. So?

EDIT: I'm out till later tonight, so I won't respond to wahtever decision Scarlet makes right away. All in all, compared to characters like Ultron, Nimrod and Wonder Man, I don;t think my choices are that outlandish.

Blackbolt is pretty tough... being able to take down the likes of Hulk and Gladiator... but it's whatever Scarlet says... it'd be interesting to see how the opposition does against Khellendros.

hmmmm

blade (from movies) hes quil to black panther and for the other one harley quinn

Water down his voice and you can have Black Bolt. I would consider Wonder Woman a weak everyman, but against types like Nimrod and Ultron, I may let you have her...pending some thought.

Hawksmoor is too powerful for his category. "Unintentionally dismembering his opponents" yikes! Also, some info on Midnighter would be appreciated, I know little of him, but what I've seen, with advanced speed and healing, he seems a bit out of the category.

Meh, my plans changed so I'm still here. I have no problem watering down Blackbolts scream, since I also chose him for his other electron-based abilities as much if not more than the scream.

Midnighter is like Batman but way more brutal. The reason I picked him is the implants in his brain that allow him to asses a fight and opponent from millions of angles and choose the actions that end the fight the quickest. The best link I could find on him is this: http://authority.herochronicle.com/characters/midnighter.htm

I actually thought Hawksmoor would be perfect at his level, since his rapport with cities would help him against opponents like Spiderman and Quicksilver. Also: the dismembering thing? Eh, couldn't it be said that Spiderman would be capable of the same thing if he cared a little less? I mean, we've seen him behead a sentinel, catch the head with a webline and use it to smash a few other sentinels to hell during the Onslaught saga.

I think I did good choosing characters that had a bit of an edge, but they don't seem overpowered in comparison to other teams.

EDIT: I know I'm arguing a lot, but I will say that I won't object if you don't want me to have WW. She was just the only female character in that level that popped out at me.

Honestly, I don't know what to do about WW or Hawksmoor. Hawksmoor seems to powerful, with his concrete phasing. Catching the head of a sentinel with a webline is different than punching someone's head off. I'd like to hear some other participants views on this matter.

Alright, may I choose Silver Surfer for my Everyman?

Also, replace Iron Fist with Karnak

I replace Gilgamesh with Radioactive Man. I'm going with Machine Man still in the powerful street. The original version, not the crappy Marvel Tech version that no one read. Telescoping limbs, but as he's a machine the limit is fixed, around 3 stories for each stretching section (legs, torso, neck, arms), not some nigh immeasurable Plastic Man limit. Hovering/weak flight. Some electricity and gun doohickies in his hands, and mild super strength, 2 tons, as he is a machine.

And I need another powerful street. Some help, people?

That's cool with me. I don't really have any objections with the other selected characters. Throw everyone in and see what happens I say. As stated in the rules, the really powerful level characters would be able to KO the less powerful once the battle begins?

I think you'd have to pick someone who can go toe to toe with Hawksmoor as your other powerful street level. Or a telepath.

You bastards picked away parts of my team before I even knew what happened! Well I return!

Class 1: Thor
Class 2: Damage and Apocalypse (If he isn't allowed, then; Storm)
Class 3: Spider-man and Deathstroke
Class 4: Azrael and Deadpool

Silver Surfer makes a good everyman. Keep in mind, Spiderman was the one responsible forremoving the head from said sentinel. Speaking of Spiderman, Nataku, I think Quick Freeze already grabbed him up.

EDIT: OH, and I need another poweful street character. I'm still thinking... Jenny Sparks would probably be too powerful, huh? Also, if I can't have WW, would you let me have Dragon Man?

(Stupid editing time limit...)

Actually, since I need a woman on my team, how would it be if I swapped out WW for the less powerful Dragon Man and took Jenny Sparks as my female character?

i kind of want to change my team slightly
Superman (under the conditions that were posted about him on the 1st page
Spawn (in earlier issues) and Hellboy (cant go crazy)
Dark Claw and Spider-Man
Nightwing and Whitchblade (a good detective/warrior with a sword attached to her wrist)

let me know if that is an ok change

nataku, deadpool is immortal he would beat everyone in street level.

surfer is fine on everyman category.

No Wonder Woman, and no Apocalypse for those levels. I realize that's tough, as they're not powerful enough to be in the Superman level, but too powerful to be in the level below that.

For my last character, a Powerful Street Level--Union Jack III, superhuman strength, speed and endurance, on par with Spider-Man, from what I can find. Bulletproof costume, with an assault rifle and regular military paraphenalia and traditional Union Jack weaponry, a Webley .455, and dagger for backup.

I think there are still some teams that are incomplete and some characters not allowed?

kelendros and crazy teams are incomplete.

if deadpool is allowed, nataku team is complete

Deadpool is not allowed for that power level. Though he is immortal, that does not exempt him from pain and being rendered unconscious. Immortality is more of a long-term power which wouldn't really apply.

yeah because somone else chose siper-man after i chose him, and im making one final change becase witchblade is way too powerful for street so i'm replacing her with the human form of Voodoo from the WildC.AT.S
so:
Superman (under the conditions that were posted about him on the 1st page)
Spawn (in earlier issues) and Hellboy (cant go crazy)
Dark Claw and Spider-Man
Nightwing and Voodoo (human form) (http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/v/voodoo.htm)

let me know if that is an ok change

Sounds good, so minorly enhanced sense it seems, but no shifting into a Daemonite?

Yeah, Nataku, someone already chose Spider-Man, but you may have the ever-awesomely-better Scarlet Spider.

no shifting into a Daemonite, that puts her in one of the top 3 categories, at human form she is slightly telepathic and a knows a martial art called Coda. . . not really relavent but, yeah, she can fight and has weak telepathy

Class 1: Thor
Class 2: Damage and Doctor Doom
Class 3: Deathstroke and Venom
Class 4: Azrael and Captain America

scarlet didnt norrin rad take surfer for his everyman?

and did my team get exepted

Beta Ray Bill with Stormbreaker
OLD Iron Man, Juggernaut
The Flash, Ezekiel
The Punisher, Nick Fury

lets put a date to start the tournament, lets fight

Err, no, I'm not missing anyone, since Spider didn't object to my choices.

Everyman type - Mr. Majestic

Fairly powerful types - Dragon Man, Black Bolt

Powerful street characters - Jack Hawksmoor Jenny Sparks

Street level characters - Midnighter, Daredevil

Yeah, rechoose for Flash and Juggernaut. Again, he's sadly one of those Wonder Woman cases, too high for that level, too low for the next level.

Hawksmoor seems okay. I'm guessing around 10-15 ton level, he's just a bit careless. And the concrete shifting is neat.

Class 1: Thor
Class 2: Damage and Doctor Doom
Class 3: Deathstroke and Venom
Class 4: Azrael and Green Arrow

Edit: Nevermind, re read the posts.

scarlet is it necessary to have a girl or not?

Eh, nah, it doesn't matter I suppose, so if anyone wants to go back and rechoose, that's fine.

But c'mon cool dudes, lets finish up the drafting and fight.