Wonderman vs. Submariner

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JOE NUNEZ
which avenger wins this, namor fresh out of water........

batdude123
I'm gonna have to go with Wonder Man for this after a long a brutal fight.

JOE NUNEZ
ha ha ha batdude youve done research..... reading

batdude123
^ wink

JOE NUNEZ
IM waiting for some more opinions before I post the fight in scans.....

CaptainStoic
Wonderman will win.

JOE NUNEZ
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Wonderman will win. are you sure?

jrodslam
If Namor is just fresh out of water, the fight stalemates until Namor starts to dehydrate. Wonderman is very durable and doesnt need to breathe, so his endurance is very high. If Namor were to wear his water suit, id still call it a stalemate. I wonder if Namors electricity can cause WM some problems?

JOE NUNEZ
scans coming up.plus an after fight interview of wonderman.

JOE NUNEZ
once your in just hit NEXT to see the whole fight. http://www.fortunecity.com/athena/power/955/AVH155H.htm

JOE NUNEZ
now the interview . http://members.fortunecity.com/muscular2/SimonInt_8.htm

JOE NUNEZ
What surprises me the most is that namor was fast enough to corner the wizzer....

jrodslam
Well considering Wonderman hit Namor with a behind attack at the end isnt saying much. And in the interview, it was said that Namro was knocked out. That surely wasnt the case.

aliveinboston
Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
which avenger wins this, namor fresh out of water........

Finally an interesing comparison with no clear answer. If Wonderman can keep namor dry he has a chance. If namor can take the fight into the water he will easily overpower wonderman.

Sixth_Winged
i'm leaning toward WM mainly because of his ionic composure. But featwise, Namor beats him.

meep-meep
It's definitely an interesting and good matchup. I'll say Namor 7/10. It looks like Namor was starting to lay in to Wonderman before the Whizzer (!) interupted their dance.

Also, how the hell does Namor get taken out by a steel support beam?!

JOE NUNEZ
Originally posted by meep-meep
It's definitely an interesting and good matchup. I'll say Namor 7/10. It looks like Namor was starting to lay in to Wonderman before the Whizzer (!) interupted their dance.

Also, how the hell does Namor get taken out by a steel support beam?! he did not get taken out by the steel beam wonderman punched him out.

Adam Warlock
Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
he did not get taken out by the steel beam wonderman punched him out.

Yup.

Even though it was a cheap shot, WM did knock him out.

He'd do it again too if they ever fought again.

WM takes it 6 maybe 7 times out of 10.

Adam Warlock
In those scans, Namor even states that WM is nearly as powerful as the Thunder God Thor. That was classic WM. WM currently has better use of his powers now. He knows rage and focus will increase his physical attributes almost the same way anger increases Hulk's physical attributes.

WM will put him down again. Not easily. But he will.

batdude123
^ yes

JOE NUNEZ
namors fast he was able to corner the wizzer...

jrodslam
First off, WM didnt knock Namor out. Secondly, it was a cheap shot from behind and by that time Namor already realized that they were no longer a threat. Because he got that last hit and knocked Namor dowen means he knocked him out? no Sorry.

JOE NUNEZ
in a fight never turn your back on your enemy,words namor will never forget...

batdude123
^ yes

JOE NUNEZ
thats what he gets for underestimating someone , who even he claimed was as strong as thor.

jrodslam
Too bad Namor never claimed he was stronger than Thor.roll eyes (sarcastic)

batdude123
^ No, but he claimed that he was AS strong as Thor.

jrodslam
^
no He claimed he was ALMOST as strong as Thor.

Read guys.

JOE NUNEZ
Originally posted by jrodslam
^
no He claimed he was ALMOST as strong as Thor.

Read guys. WHAT ARE YOU NAMORS DEFENSE ATTORNEY... big grin

jrodslam
Call DarkCrawler Matt and call me Foggy.

Namors DC's favorite character and Namors my second favorite. If we dont defend him, who will? Its only natural.

JOE NUNEZ
Originally posted by jrodslam
Call DarkCrawler Matt and call me Foggy.

Namors DC's favorite character and Namors my second favorite. If we dont defend him, who will? Its only natural. Well done, you should always fight for what or who you believe in....

Adam Warlock
Namor is tough. He can take on and beat many top tier heroes in battle. Iron Man, Thing, Colossus, etc... But not WM. smile

Back then he was nearly as strong as Thor. He's a bit stronger now. yes

snoopdogg
What is Wondermans greatest strength feat? I know he was in the hydraulic press and all but he didn't stop it so it's not really impressive.

I say 50/50.

olympian
Greatest strenght feat?

Being one of the four Avengers that catched the milion of tons island that Nefaria trew at them.

Fun Note. Iron Man who was also one of the four, was complaining of his backs stick out tongue

The Fake Macoy
Sucker punching someone doesn't mean that you can beat them in a fight. Besides, he attacked right when Namor was thinking "wait a minute, these can't be the bad guys."

snoopdogg
Originally posted by olympian
Greatest strenght feat?

Being one of the four Avengers that catched the milion of tons island that Nefaria trew at them.

Fun Note. Iron Man who was also one of the four, was complaining of his backs stick out tongue That shouldn't count. A feat he did by himself I meant. I could help four powerlifters lift the front of a bus but I wouldn't go telling people I did it.

CaptainStoic
I'd say that Wonderman is more durable, and slightly stronger than Namor, but I think Namor is a better fighter. Strength in a fight rarely decides the victor, but Captain America spent some time training Simon how to fight. This would be a close fight, but with Wondermans new powers I think that he should take the majority of these fights, especially because he knows Namors weaknesses. Whereas Simon has very few to exploit... I don't know how true this is, but can't Wonderman survive a nuclear explosion at ground zero? This in itself is a huge feat.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I'd say that Wonderman is more durable, and slightly stronger than Namor, but I think Namor is a better fighter. Strength in a fight rarely decides the victor, but Captain America spent some time training Simon how to fight. This would be a close fight, but with Wondermans new powers I think that he should take the majority of these fights, especially because he knows Namors weaknesses. Whereas Simon has very few to exploit... I don't know how true this is, but can't Wonderman survive a nuclear explosion at ground zero? This in itself is a huge feat. I think Namor has proven to be the stronger of the two. Why does everyone assume WM is so strong? I need to see feats. But I still think WM edges him out with speed and durability.

batdude123
Everybody seems to forget that Wonder Man can expell energy blasts from his lower body in an omndirectional fashion.

CaptainStoic
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I think Namor has proven to be the stronger of the two. Why does everyone assume WM is so strong? I need to see feats. But I still think WM edges him out with speed and durability.

Being more durable in itself will tell you that Wonderman is naturally stronger. Let me explain what I mean before anyone jumps the gun.

If you were to put both of these guys in a hydrolic press and continued to add pressure, who would pop first? This is not to say that Simon can lift more (although logic would dictate that he could).

No one would use a wooden beam to support a building when they could use a steel one. If you can't see my logic then I will graciously bow out.
People in these forums have completely ignored Marvels strength charts stating that Wonderman was never weaker than Namor.

I mean if I made a chracter called The Crusher, and said that he can lift 95 tonnes, but could increase his limit due to the crusher gene within him to over 150 tonnes. Then turned around, and stated that I created another one named Mech 5 and said that he could lift 85 tonnes max, who then is stronger?

leonidas
this is a close fight. strength is about the same -- not enough to decide it. fighting skill is namor's, as is ruthlessness. durability i think is with wm and he has no weakness to exploit.

it would last for a while, but i think after a long fight wm would take it. if namor could drag him under water, the durability might flip and namor's skills would likely give him the majority.

guy222
bumprav

Prep-Man
WM.

carver9
Good fight. Namor wins.

Mindset
Close fight.

Namor absolutely destroys him 10/10.

carver9
Originally posted by Mindset
Close fight.

Namor absolutely destroys him 10/10.

laughing out loud

zopzop
Wonderman, 7-8/10.

Martian_mind
Wonderman.

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