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The twist is wolevrine can not use his Claws and Daredevil can no sue any of his weapons

vs


The companions of the Hall from forgoten realms books and comics


Bruenor BattleHammer

Drizzt

Wulfgar

Cat.

Haftling

All with standred equiptmen


who wins?

I think this would be a great fight and I am undecided at the moment

Sans claws, Logan's screwed. Drizzt will cut him 9 ways from Tuesday. The globes of darkness would suck for Logan too, but Matt wouldn't even notice them. Wulfgar's as strong as either of them, and a good fighter. So's Bruenor. And they'd probably avoid Cattie-Brie's arrows, but it would be a distraction.

With weapons, they'd have a hard time killing Logan and would probably lose eventually (though a good hammer blow might knock him out). And with Drizzt there, it'd be a long fight....kid's crazy-skilled.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Sans claws, Logan's screwed. Drizzt will cut him 9 ways from Tuesday. The globes of darkness would suck for Logan too, but Matt wouldn't even notice them. Wulfgar's as strong as either of them, and a good fighter. So's Bruenor. And they'd probably avoid Cattie-Brie's arrows, but it would be a distraction.

With weapons, they'd have a hard time killing Logan and would probably lose eventually (though a good hammer blow might knock him out). And with Drizzt there, it'd be a long fight....kid's crazy-skilled.
I was thinking much of the same though the comapions may take it they are bad ass.

I think wulgar goes down first though since both bruenor and drizzt have shown to easiliy bee his superior.


bruenor and drizzt are a deadly team and with cats arrows and wulfgar hammer they may be able to take it

Wolverine and DD eat up Drizzt and his companions and spit them out like nothing. They are both faster, stronger and more skilled then Drizzt and with out handy plot devices to save his ass the Dark Elf gets tooled like he should when he fights Artemis or Obould and once he goes down the rest might as well be cannon fodder.

... and what help will Regis be?

What are the The companions of the Hall?

Drizzt Do'Urden and pals

Just like to say that characters like Drizzt are really out classed by comic characters, even low-end streets. I know they have strong fan fallowings but heroic fantasy characters (ones try to have some semblance of reality at least) for the most part just can't hold up. I'm not sure if I would give Skilgannon or Decado decent odds against DD and they both make Drizzt look like a walking joke.

Sigh...

Fine, if Wolverine doesn't get claws, then he gets the Muramasa Blade, or the Honor Sword. Then the Companions are still screwed. Wolverine is still faster than Drizzt and stronger than Wulfgar. One could argue that DD is as fast as Drizzt too, or at least just as hard toi hit.

Regis is...well Regis and he's not even going to get involved. Bruenor and Wulfgar are both going to get killed very quick. Cat is going to stay the hell away and shoot arrows. Wolverine and DD can both dodge bullets, so she's hard pressed to do much of anything. Wolverine can also catch arrows and throw them back at people just as fast as a bow, so the melee companions better not let him focus on the arrows too much or they are dead. Drizzit would be hard to hit, but it's a lot like Spider-Man. He's dead after one hit. If he unleashes the Panther it's screwed too. Wolverine kills it in 2 seconds if it jumps him and Drizzit has to send it back. Drizzit's globe of Darkness isn't going to effect DD and it wont do much to Wolverine either. Wolverine still has a lot of other enhanced senses and his reflexes assure that if he gets hit while blind that person will get killed before they can retreat.

I think Cat = Gwen, riceroost

The Halfling could be Cantibre, I just assumed it was Regis.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think Cat = Gwen, riceroost

The Halfling could be Cantibre, I just assumed it was Regis. Pshaw, they can have the Panther, Catti Brie, Regis, and Artemis too. Still wont help the Companions.

Fairer fight would be Companions of the Hall vs. The Heroes of the Lance(before Raistlin became all powerful.)

But without weapons?? They'd be overwhelmed. Don't forget the 600 pounds of magical fury that is Guenwyvar. Drizzt isn't a pushover, and Wolverine would be fighting in the dark constantly (globes of darkness). I agree, give them weapons and they'd probably win (killing Logan would be a b*tch)....but with absolutely no weapons (including claws), they're in some trouble.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
But without weapons?? They'd be overwhelmed. Don't forget the 600 pounds of magical fury that is Guenwyvar. Drizzt isn't a pushover, and Wolverine would be fighting in the dark constantly (globes of darkness). I agree, give them weapons and they'd probably win (killing Logan would be a b*tch)....but with absolutely no weapons (including claws), they're in some trouble.

Bone claw Wolverine once got into a fist fight with a Grizzly Bear who was posses by a Demon (the Bear's stats were amped as such he was flinging around other bears like nothing), Wolverine koed it with out it landing a single blow. Gwen wont pose much of a problem

Originally posted by riceroost
Pshaw, they can have the Panther, Catti Brie, Regis, and Artemis too. Still wont help the Companions.

Fairer fight would be Companions of the Hall vs. The Heroes of the Lance(before Raistlin became all powerful.)
That would not be a fair fight at all.


Bruenor and Drizzt could take the heroes of the lance easiliy

DareDevil and Wolverine win this easily. This would be a scene in a movie where Logan and Matt are walking down an alley and accidentally stumble upon a bunch of wannabe super things and knock them the hell out and go and get a pie at Baker Square.

Hmm..

Ok, let's try this again.

A. Wolverine has no claws for this fight.

B. From second 1 of the fight, Wolverine is in pitch darkness and unable to see. Two magical scimitars stab him about a dozen times before he can figure out what's going on. He is then tackled by a 600 pound intelligent magical cat. Fighting Guen is a lot different than fighting an irrational and largely stupid bear. Guen would pwn the bear just as easily as Logan did.

C. Meanwhile, Cattie-Brie targets Matt, who is able to dodge her arrows, but she doesn't run out of arrows, so most of his energy is spent dodging. Wulfgar, Matt's equal in at least strength if not speed, keeps him busy for a while.

D. Bruenor sips some tea, and grumbles about the "durned elf" having all the fun.

E. Wolverine still can't see and is badly injured, but has dispatched Guen. Drizzt sends her back to the Astral Plane, then continues his barrage on the still-blinded Logan. Wulfgar and Cat continue to stalemate Matt. Bruenor joins Drizzt to pound the crap out of Logan.

F. Logan maybe gets a few hits in on the duo, but Bruenor handles it (he's crazily durable), then Wolverine falls over from blood loss or knock-out or something. They then gang up on Matt.

G. End battle.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Hmm..

Ok, let's try this again.

A. Wolverine has no claws for this fight.

B. From second 1 of the fight, Wolverine is in pitch darkness and unable to see. Two magical scimitars stab him about a dozen times before he can figure out what's going on. He is then tackled by a 600 pound intelligent magical cat. Fighting Guen is a lot different than fighting an irrational and largely stupid bear. Guen would pwn the bear just as easily as Logan did.

C. Meanwhile, Cattie-Brie targets Matt, who is able to dodge her arrows, but she doesn't run out of arrows, so most of his energy is spent dodging. Wulfgar, Matt's equal in at least strength if not speed, keeps him busy for a while.

D. Bruenor sips some tea, and grumbles about the "durned elf" having all the fun.

E. Wolverine still can't see and is badly injured, but has dispatched Guen. Drizzt sends her back to the Astral Plane, then continues his barrage on the still-blinded Logan. Wulfgar and Cat continue to stalemate Matt. Bruenor joins Drizzt to pound the crap out of Logan.

F. Logan maybe gets a few hits in on the duo, but Bruenor handles it (he's crazily durable), then Wolverine falls over from blood loss or knock-out or something. They then gang up on Matt.

G. End battle.
digi to be the devil advicat, wolverine beeing blind would barly effect him at all. Wolverine has foughten on many occassions while unable to see. His other sense can more then make up for lose of sight.

Originally posted by capt it up
The twist is wolevrine can not use his Claws. Can Wolverine use his sword? CANNY CANNY CANNY???

Originally posted by riceroost
Can Wolverine use his sword? CANNY CANNY CANNY???

No.

Originally posted by capt it up
digi to be the devil advicat, wolverine beeing blind would barly effect him at all. Wolverine has foughten on many occassions while unable to see. His other sense can more then make up for lose of sight.

Bah! Who's side are you on?? Regardless, Drizzt is still a better darkness fighter, and even when Logan hits him it'll only be with a fist, not with claws.

wolverine still gets his healing factor, and dont forget he does have an adamantiom fists. and hes got daredevil, who doesnt always use his billy clud.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Hmm..

Ok, let's try this again.

A. Wolverine has no claws for this fight. Wolverine can knock out people almost as tough as the Hulk with his bare hands.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
B. From second 1 of the fight, Wolverine is in pitch darkness and unable to see. Two magical scimitars stab him about a dozen times before he can figure out what's going on. He is then tackled by a 600 pound intelligent magical cat. Fighting Guen is a lot different than fighting an irrational and largely stupid bear. Guen would pwn the bear just as easily as Logan did. No assurance that Wolverine will be the one in darkness. He could try and tag Matt. Even if Wolverine is hit he still has other enhanced senses that ensure he is far from helpless. Wolverine can dodge optic blasts without looking by sensing the pressure. Same applies for Drizzit. He probably will tag Wolverine, but he's not going to put him down and he wont be able to slip away before Wolverine has zoned in on him with his other senses, locking on Drizzit.

No panther is going to do anything to Wolverine. If he goes in and jumps Wolverine he will get his neck broke like that dinosaur from the Jungle Adventure. Goodbye panther.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
C. Meanwhile, Cattie-Brie targets Matt, who is able to dodge her arrows, but she doesn't run out of arrows, so most of his energy is spent dodging. Wulfgar, Matt's equal in at least strength if not speed, keeps him busy for a while. Matt will waste no energy dodging arrows. It's pretty easy for Matt. He takes out Cat and Wulfgar pretty quick, even though I love Wulfgar.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
D. Bruenor sips some tea, and grumbles about the "durned elf" having all the fun. Or he watches in horror as Wolverine breaks both Drizzit's arms.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
E. Wolverine still can't see and is badly injured, but has dispatched Guen. Drizzt sends her back to the Astral Plane, then continues his barrage on the still-blinded Logan. Wulfgar and Cat continue to stalemate Matt. Bruenor joins Drizzt to pound the crap out of Logan. Globe will go away after Wolverine handles Drizzit, leaving Bruenor in a battle of berserkers against Wolverine, which the proud dwarf will sadly lose. Axe hits Wolverine-Wolverine doesn't care, caves in Bruenor's face with straight punch. Bruenor survives because he is tough as hell, but he will not win.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
F. Logan maybe gets a few hits in on the duo, but Bruenor handles it (he's crazily durable), then Wolverine falls over from blood loss or knock-out or something. They then gang up on Matt.Bruenor's toughness pales in comparison to Wolverine. Wolverine's wounds from Drizzit are already healed and he ignores Bruenor's axe as it just clanged off his skull. DD has finished Catty Brei and is putting the finishing touches on Wulfgar just as Wolverine KOs the dwarf.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
G. End battle. Wolverine wakes up Wulf and Bruenor and treats them to a drinking bout at the Cutlass, which he also wins handily, although he gives Wulfgar props for putting Scott's tolerance to pitiful shame.

The only part of you post I can directly refute is the part about Logan taking out Hulk-esque opponents with his bare hands. A bear does not = almost Hulk. And without his claws, he much less dangerous. In fact, I'd probably put him below, say, Obould in terms of strength and speed ( )

But our main difference lies with our estimation of Drizzt's fighting abilities. I highly doubt Wolverine would hit him so easily in complete darkness (even though I know Logan has some training with such things), and would say it's about 5/10 for Drizzt-vs-Daredevil in a straight match. Less than that for Logan, but without claws and with Drizzt's team having the numbers advantage, I think they win more often than not.

...

And why no Wulfgar love? He has feats that put him easily around peak human (right with DD) and he was trained by Drizzt, and also has a decent beserker-mode. I think he's a great match for Matt. Matt would win more often than not (speed advantage) but give Wulfgar some help (like Cattie-Brie, for example) and I see no reason why he loses.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
No.



Bah! Who's side are you on?? Regardless, Drizzt is still a better darkness fighter, and even when Logan hits him it'll only be with a fist, not with claws.
im on ur's to a point, but wolverine is not reliant on his eyes in combat which was the one piont I was making

wulfgar and Bruenor in terms of strength are both stronger then that of DD.

Digi I ahve a question why havent u said any thing about bruenor in this match up? He will be a far mroe deciding factor then wulfgar

Originally posted by DigiMark007
The only part of you post I can directly refute is the part about Logan taking out Hulk-esque opponents with his bare hands. A bear does not = almost Hulk. And without his claws, he much less dangerous. A bear? What are you talking about? Wolverine KOed Roughouse without claws, who has been said to be nearly as powerful as the Hulk. Wolverine without claws is dangerous as hell. I firmly believe that his skills are dumbed down when he has the claws. Wolverine without powers or claws took on an entire prison where there was a price on his head. He even protected Beast the whole time.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
But our main difference lies with our estimation of Drizzt's fighting abilities. I highly doubt Wolverine would hit him so easily in complete darkness.No offense to Drizzt, but Darness Globe wont mean anything. Wolverine can use his senses to dodge an optic blast without seeing it coming, with enough time to save other people as well. He constantly takes down Nightcrawler who is a teleporter. Wolverine doesn't even look most of the time, he just knows where Nightcrawler will pop out of the teleport and floors him before Kurt can do anything. I dont know if Drizzt's swords are unbreakable, but when he hits Wolverine with them they might break on adamantium bone, and Wolverine frequently uses his bones to trap swords so that he can attack the stuck swordsman. He killed Shingen in such a way. Cut off Silver Samurai's arm this way too. I am not convinced Drizzt will be fast enough to get away from Wolverine. There is also no guarantee Drizzt uses darkness globe, but if he does the odds are still not in his favor.

I get that Drizzt was trained by the finest swordsman in the world, but Wolverine was trained by Ogun, who was the best, a sorceror aged a thousand years, who was supposed to be unkillable, yet Wolverine beat him twice and killed him. Drizzt is good, but Wolverine is virtually unkillable to someone like Drizzt.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Drizzt's team having the numbers advantage, I think they win more often than not. You're kidding right? Wolverine takes on thousands of the most deadly assassins in the world by himself. He fights armies alone and doesn't break a sweat. Numbers mean nothing to Wolverine. Daredevil is pretty impressive against huge numbers as well.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
And why no Wulfgar love? He has feats that put him easily around peak human (right with DD) and he was trained by Drizzt, and also has a decent beserker-mode. I think he's a great match for Matt. Matt would win more often than not (speed advantage) but give Wulfgar some help (like Cattie-Brie, for example) and I see no reason why he loses. I love Wulfgar, he's actually my favorite character in Forgotten Realms, but Matt can dance circles around Namor, who is a hell of a lot stronger than Wulfgar. Matt is also a lot faster, and can go at it with Spider-Man. As much as I want to see Wulfgar annihilate DD I dont think he could hit Matt.

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Originally posted by capt it up
The twist is wolevrine can not use his Claws and Daredevil can no sue any of his weapons

vs


The companions of the Hall from forgoten realms books and comics


Bruenor BattleHammer

Drizzt

Wulfgar

Cat.

Haftling

All with standred equiptmen


who wins?

I think this would be a great fight and I am undecided at the moment

The halflings name is Regis, and he is a non-factor unless he gets to use the gem on one of them. Unfortunetly for Daredevil and Wolvie, they have no weapons, and so Daredevil gets shot through the head by Cattie, and Wolvie gets beaten to the ground by Wulfgar and Bruenor. Drizzt and Regis can stand there and watch, being completely unneccesary for this fight. Any one on the team might give them problems.

Wow... just wow.

You could line up a hundred archers and slap a 300 pound weight to Matt and he still would dodge all the arrows. Cantie Brie would never even get close to hitting Matt; he'd be moving to fast for her to even register his movements.

And as dumb as the idea of Cantie Brie hitting DD with an arrow is the notion of Wulfar and Bruenor beating Wolverine is exponitailly worse. How? How did you come to this conclusion? Wolverine could take the best they could dish out, hell he could take 10 fold the best they could dish out and still get up and one shot both of them.

You sleep in Forgotten Realms PJs on top of Forgotten Realms Bed Sheets, don't ya?

The enchantments on Taulmaril are invulnerability, a infinite number of instantly replenishing arrows and some sort of damage enchantment where the arrows are imbued with some sort of energy. The arrows move at the same speed as normal arrows and wither he is engaged in combat with Wulfgar and Bruenor or not Daredevil isn't getting hit by an arrow, no matter the kind.

And Aegis-Fang and Bruenor's axe aren't going to do much damage to Wolverine at all... if either of them can even hit him that is. One full on hit and Wolverine is going to down anyone he hits, now Drizzt may be agile and skilled enough to roll with the hit to avoid taking the full impact but everyone else is going down.