Who is the most powerful demon in Marvel
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guy222
I believe its Mephisto, although Zarathos is my favorite.
Howard_Jones
Mephisto or Lucifer.
NiņoAraņa
there is no point to either of these threads

King_Mungi
Lucifer is by far the top, he's the devil. Then maybe Llan, (technically they don't know what he is though) or Mephisto
boriquaking55
Shuma Gorath
juggernaut66666
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Lucifer is by far the top, he's the devil. Then maybe Llan, (technically they don't know what he is though) or Mephisto
Lucifer get's his ass handed to Ghost Rider nowdays.
TricksterPriest
Set. Elder God trumps pretty everything except Atum and maybe Galactus.
King_Mungi
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Lucifer get's his ass handed to Ghost Rider nowdays.
Well there is a reason for that, seeing as his power is divided between 666 people. Think of the movie "The One" by Jet Li.
Swanky-Tuna
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well there is a reason for that, seeing as his power is divided between 666 people. Think of the movie "The One" by Jet Li.
Lucifer must travel across hundreds of dimensions murdering the hairdressers and vets versions of himself to regain his power?
willRules
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Lucifer must travel across hundreds of dimensions murdering the hairdressers and vets versions of himself to regain his power?
DC's version of Satan goes around murdering vets and hairdressers? That can't be right, Lucifer is supposed to be degrading the planet, not helping it out.............
boriquaking55
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Set. Elder God trumps pretty everything except Atum and maybe Galactus.
Shuma is more powerful than Set - Set's not even a demon technically. Neither is Chthon.
guy222
Zadkiel FTW
And its a joy ppl don't post here anymore makes ole Guy222 smile
roughrider
It's between Mephisto, Satannish, Dormammu and Surtur.
Colossus-Big C
Shuma Gorath , Cyttorak then Zom according to breevort
Horrificus
Originally posted by boriquaking55
Shuma is more powerful than Set - Set's not even a demon technically. Neither is Chthon. Agreed.
Shuma.
guy222
whatever happened to shuma
can shuma defeat zadkiel in 'heaven'
Uriel005
Originally posted by boriquaking55
Shuma Gorath not a demon... not really. More falling in line with something like Cthulhu.
zopzop
Set.
What other demon has gone toe to toe with Demogorge for a million+ years before Demogorge got the upper hand? Or holding down/imprisoning Gaea, another Elder God, against her will, while fighting off Demogorge?
What other demon caused Strange to call upon his artifacts and back that spell up with the power of Cosmic Cube to exorcise his influence from Earth and then the Cosmic Cube's power was exhausted in the process?
guy222
how was he defeated
ozz81
mephisto maybe Chaos king
Mr.Mxyzptlk
How're we defining "demon" exactly? Are we talking about any Hell Lord in general or what?
rotiart
Satan. The father of daimyo hellstrom....
When chaos king absorbed him he Exclaimed how much power he received.
He did not do the same when defeating Zeus. Nightmare. Etc.
guy222
zadkiel vs satan in 'heaven'
hmm
Glorificus
I thought Mephisto is not technically a demon.
At least this was stated in Marvel Ultimate Alliance.
zopzop
Originally posted by Glorificus
I thought Mephisto is not technically a demon.
At least this was stated in Marvel Ultimate Alliance.
I'm going by how Marvel classified them in their own handbook
Set, Chthon, Shuma-Gorath, Mephisto, Dweller in Darkness, etc.. are all classified as demons. They are further broken down into 3 classes of demons that I can't remember off the top of my head.
guy222
how do they fare vs satan or zadkiel
zopzop
Originally posted by guy222
how do they fare vs satan or zadkiel
This post is to me Guy? I don't know

They just listed a whole bunch of beings they classified as demons and then split them into categories depending on their origin. Here's the list :
http://marvel.wikia.com/Official_Handbook_of_the_Marvel_Universe_Vol_2_3
Type 1 Demon : Elder Gods and their spawn (started off as "Gods" and degenerated into Demons)
Type 2 Demon : Fallen or Degenerate Gods (they date eons after the Elder Gods). Examples : Mephisto, Satannish, "Satan", etc.. also called Devils that inhabit various Hell realms.
Type 3 Demon : Extradimensional in origin. Shuma Gorath is given as an example
Bonus : Extradimensional malefic beings who don't completely fall into either Type but still classified as Demons. Examples : Zom, Dweller in Darkness, Dormammu, Tiboro).
Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by zopzop
Set.
What other demon has gone toe to toe with Demogorge for a million+ years before Demogorge got the upper hand? Or holding down/imprisoning Gaea, another Elder God, against her will, while fighting off Demogorge?
What other demon caused Strange to call upon his artifacts and back that spell up with the power of Cosmic Cube to exorcise his influence from Earth and then the Cosmic Cube's power was exhausted in the process? he also punked the celestials TWICE!! He had TIAMUT in fear of him on panel the even had him shivering causing earthquakes and stuff
His feats dwarf any other demon in marvel
Set>celestials >cosmic cube ( this was also around the time the celestials puncked odin zeus and vishnu)
Mr.Mxyzptlk
Shouldn't Zom be the strongest demon then? I thought the Living Tribunal was required to directly intervene to deal with him.
zopzop
Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Shouldn't Zom be the strongest demon then? I thought the Living Tribunal was required to directly intervene to deal with him.
Zom (and to a greater extent Shuma-Gorath) are hard to place.
During Zom's introduction, he was needed to stop Umar's rampage on Earth that Ancient One or Dr. Strange couldn't handle. Strange released Zom and stated he was more dangerous than a dozen Umar's. Zom finds that skank, she attacks him, she comments that even shackled he's melting her spells like nothing, then she runs for her life.
You may think, well big deal, it's only Umar. What people don't understand, and what I couldn't put in Zom's respect thread (because they didn't involve him), was that Umar at the time of her introduction was made out to be a thread on the level of Dormammu and some comments by Strange and AO even stated that she was MORE powerful than Dormammu (keep in mind this is when she first made an appearance, I don't care how she was handled later). I can list examples and scans but I really can't get into it now.
Zom was shackled by Dormammu under circumstances unknown ages ago, then Eternity had to step in and finish the job by binding him in an amphora and placing him outside all space and time. This was all done off panel so we don't know what the exact conditions were that allowed Zom to be beaten like that.
Anyway, the LT shows up, annihilates Zom and Zom forever more existed as a shadow of his former self, the Zomling. People have to keep in mind all of Zom's appearances after this event aren't of full powered Zom, but of the Zomling, the fraction of his essence that survived the LT's attack.
It was stated in a later Dr. Strange arc, when the Zomling was accidentally freed, that the Zomling can absorb magical energy and eventually become the real Zom if given the opportunity. Dr. Strange, through an idiotic plot device (too stupid to even mention), recaptures and reseals the Zomling back in it's amphora.
Later , the Zomling is released to deal with WWH. He had WWH dead to rights till Strange started to fight his influence and that was that. Later still, Dr. Strange is shot dead and instead of dying, his link to the Zomling's power allows him to resurrect himself and beat the crap out of a room of assembled superhumans. His most recent showing has the CK ASKING the Zomling to join his cause. The very fact that he ASKED and not demanded is significant IMHO, showing that CK respects even the Zomlings power.
cdtm
Does Hela count?
She is a hell lord, which is basically what a demon is...
guy222
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he also punked the celestials TWICE!! He had TIAMUT in fear of him on panel the even had him shivering causing earthquakes and stuff
His feats dwarf any other demon in marvel
Set>celestials >cosmic cube ( this was also around the time the celestials puncked odin zeus and vishnu)
Set

guy222
Originally posted by zopzop
This post is to me Guy? I don't know

They just listed a whole bunch of beings they classified as demons and then split them into categories depending on their origin. Here's the list :
http://marvel.wikia.com/Official_Handbook_of_the_Marvel_Universe_Vol_2_3
Type 1 Demon : Elder Gods and their spawn (started off as "Gods" and degenerated into Demons)
Type 2 Demon : Fallen or Degenerate Gods (they date eons after the Elder Gods). Examples : Mephisto, Satannish, "Satan", etc.. also called Devils that inhabit various Hell realms.
Type 3 Demon : Extradimensional in origin. Shuma Gorath is given as an example
Bonus : Extradimensional malefic beings who don't completely fall into either Type but still classified as Demons. Examples : Zom, Dweller in Darkness, Dormammu, Tiboro).
zadkiel conquered 'heaven' 'new morningstar'
OneDumbG0
No demon's retconned 616 Marvel. Except Mephisto.
Sundipped
Originally posted by zopzop
This post is to me Guy? I don't know

They just listed a whole bunch of beings they classified as demons and then split them into categories depending on their origin. Here's the list :
http://marvel.wikia.com/Official_Handbook_of_the_Marvel_Universe_Vol_2_3
Type 1 Demon : Elder Gods and their spawn (started off as "Gods" and degenerated into Demons)
Type 2 Demon : Fallen or Degenerate Gods (they date eons after the Elder Gods). Examples : Mephisto, Satannish, "Satan", etc.. also called Devils that inhabit various Hell realms.
Type 3 Demon : Extradimensional in origin. Shuma Gorath is given as an example
Bonus : Extradimensional malefic beings who don't completely fall into either Type but still classified as Demons. Examples : Zom, Dweller in Darkness, Dormammu, Tiboro).
Actually Dweller in Darkness belongs in the Fearlords demon group along with Nightmare, D'spayre and others.
Depending on power, I think it's another classification system too with classes 1, 2, and 3.
aliens_predator
I believe its Lucifer, although Ghost Rider is my favorite.
zopzop
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No demon's retconned 616 Marvel. Except Mephisto.
Pretty meaningless feat seeing as he and 5 other of his friends died instantly in their combined super Hell Realm (meaning they were all at the peak of their power) at the hands of the Demogorge. Meanwhile Set fought him off for millions of years before Demogorge got the upper hand. The second time they fought, he had Gaea imprisoned against her will (something Thor didn't even think was possible) while battling Thor/Demogorge.
zopzop
Originally posted by Sundipped
Actually Dweller in Darkness belongs in the Fearlords demon group along with Nightmare, D'spayre and others.
Depending on power, I think it's another classification system too with classes 1, 2, and 3.
I'm just going by the Handbook, I didn't write it

guy222
zadkiel conquered 'heaven'
OneDumbG0
Originally posted by zopzop
Pretty meaningless feat Except it's the highest feat any Marvel demon has. Sorry if the taste doesn't agree with you.
zopzop
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Except it's the highest feat any Marvel demon has. Sorry if the taste doesn't agree with you.
That feat is cute and all but Set did infinitely better vs a common foe than Mephisto did.
Colossus-Big C
Yea Fighing The Demogorge In a 1 Million Year Long fight>>>> getting completly owned and killed in less then 10 seconds(Mephisto) By The Demogorge
OneDumbG0
Originally posted by zopzop
That feat is cute and all but Set did infinitely better vs a common foe than Mephisto did. That feat is also exponentially greater and more momentous than anything Set ever did.
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