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How far does he get.

1. Mxyztplk
2. Darksied with the Anti-Life Equation
3. Ultimator
4. Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
5. Lucifer with Michael's power
6. Living Tribunal
7. Spectre merged with the Source
8. The Great Darkness
9. Thanos with the Heart

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
How far does he get.

1. Mxyztplk
2. Darksied with the Anti-Life Equation
3. Ultimator
4. Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
5. Lucifer with Michael's power
6. Living Tribunal
7. Spectre merged with the Source
8. The Great Darkness
9. Thanos with the Heart

how in the hell did you put thanos with the IG over mxy? WTF are yu on crack? And over the ultimator ? You list is screwed And thanos with the heart is not over the GEB. He's below. Thanos with the heart is below lucifer with michael's power as well. Lucifer and michael would be God. Get this list in order first.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
how in the hell did you put thanos with the IG over mxy? WTF are yu on crack? And over the ultimator ? You list is screwed And thanos with the heart is not over the GEB. He's below. Thanos with the heart is below lucifer with michael's power as well. Lucifer and michael would be God. Get this list in order first.
Ultimator is the same as Multi-Eternity, the embodiment of everything.
The Ultimate Nullifier is above Multi-Eternity and a incomplete Infinity Gauntlet is above the Ultimate Nullifier and finaly, the Infinity Gauntlet is above a incomplete one.
Thanos with the Heart had the supreme beings power.
The Great Darkness merged with the Ultimate Light, creating Yahweh.
Thanos w/ Heart = TOAA = Presence -?- Yahweh = Ultimate Light + Great Darkness
Thanos w/ Heart = -- = Yahweh > Ultimate Light = Great Darkness.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Ultimator is the same as Multi-Eternity, the embodiment of everything.
The Ultimate Nullifier is above Multi-Eternity and a incomplete Infinity Gauntlet is above the Ultimate Nullifier and finaly, the Infinity Gauntlet is above a incomplete one.
Thanos with the Heart had the supreme beings power.
The Great Darkness merged with the Ultimate Light, creating Yahweh.
Thanos w/ Heart = TOAA = Presence -?- Yahweh = Ultimate Light + Great Darkness
Thanos w/ Heart = -- = Yahweh > Ultimate Light = Great Darkness.

Your list is all screwed. First of all the ultimator is not the equivilant of MultiEternity. That would be Kismet. she is the Multiversal guardian of the main DCU. Dominus was supremely multiversal and yet he wanted kismet's place and power. The ultimator is the culmination of everything up to the tenth dimension. The dimensions as they go up, get higher in power and lvl. the entire 5th dimension is superior to all of the 3rd dimensional multiverses.

Thanos with the heart is NOT equal to any God. He does not have the will or wisdom. He would be belower Lucifer with michael's power. The IG is not above the multieternity. that is a load of crap. until i see the IG affect the entire multiverse, i'm not buying that sad same old song. Pre retconned beyonder certainly isn't above Mxy. That is a fan boy's wet dream.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your list is all screwed. First of all the ultimator is not the equivilant of MultiEternity. That would be Kismet. she is the Multiversal guardian of the main DCU. Dominus was supremely multiversal and yet he wanted kismet's place and power. The ultimator is the culmination of everything up to the tenth dimension. The dimensions as they go up, get higher in power and lvl. the entire 5th dimension is superior to all of the 3rd dimensional multiverses.

Thanos with the heart is NOT equal to any God. He does not have the will or wisdom. He would be belower Lucifer with michael's power. The IG is not above the multieternity. that is a load of crap. until i see the IG affect the entire multiverse, i'm not buying that sad same old song. Pre retconned beyonder certainly isn't above Mxy. That is a fan boy's wet dream.
No the list is correct, Kismet is universal, it has been stated serval of times, Eternity is its equal.

Multi-Eternity, the embodiment of all universes, which taps into infinity.
That's exactly what Ultimator was.

If Lucifer with Michael's power is God it would be greater than Spectre merged with the Source.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No the list is correct, Kismet is universal, it has been stated serval of times, Eternity is its equal.

Multi-Eternity, the embodiment of all universes, which taps into infinity.
That's exactly what Ultimator was.

If Lucifer with Michael's power is God it would be greater than Spectre merged with the Source.


Um no. Kismet isn't Universal. She said what she was when she came out. She was the Guardian of all of the realities. She even helped save superman from the multi universes that dominus kept dreaming up. Kismet is the equal of the Multieternity. It's obvious in JLAvengers that that was multiEternity. ALl of the artifacts gathered by Metron and Gamesmaster where Multiversal or Top tier Universal. The story was about the Entire DCU multiverse and the Marvel multiverse. it was meant to represent universes. not just one universe each. The Ultimator was not what you think. The Ultimator was EVERYTHING up until the 10th dimenstion. He is not the same as the Multieternity. You aren't getting the concept. And Lucifer with mike's power is God. Spectre with the source merged is almost God.

Holy... why don't we all get this mad over a list being a little bit out of place...
I should go make a thread...

Originally posted by bigbran
Holy... why don't we all get this mad over a list being a little bit out of place...
I should go make a thread...

Nice one.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
How far does he get.

1. Mxyztplk
2. Darksied with the Anti-Life Equation
3. Ultimator
4. Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
5. Lucifer with Michael's power
6. Living Tribunal
7. Spectre merged with the Source
8. The Great Darkness
9. Thanos with the Heart

Ok first there is no Pre-retcon Beyonder! If you pay attention lots of things don't make sense, that would conclude he's not as powerful as he thought (which turned out to be true). And second he don't get past 1. Work on the list too..

For once I agree with nvr, Thanos w/HOTU < GEB

Originally posted by Endless Mike
For once I agree with nvr, Thanos w/HOTU < GEB

Yahweh wasent supreme, the power Thanos claimed was.

Thanos w/ Heart >> Yahweh

Yahweh is the result of the Great Darkness and the Ultimate Light merging.

Yahweh = Great Darkness + Ultimate Light

Ultimate Light = Great Darkness

Yahweh = 2 * Great Darkness'

Yahweh > Great Darkness

Thanos w/ Heart >> Yahweh > Great Darkness

Originally posted by kevdude
Ok first there is no Pre-retcon Beyonder! If you pay attention lots of things don't make sense, that would conclude he's not as powerful as he thought (which turned out to be true). And second he don't get past 1. Work on the list too..
Do you think that the whole Beyonder concept was supose to be a dream?
No he was supose to be supreme, it was afterwards when the company changed its mind, they didn't like the fact having a being like that, therefore they removed him, or rather removed his power.
But if you can't understand that simply imagion that you live in the 80's, and no comic's after 85 is canon--with the Beyonder that is.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yahweh wasent supreme, the power Thanos claimed was.

Thanos w/ Heart >> Yahweh

Yahweh is the result of the Great Darkness and the Ultimate Light merging.

Yahweh = Great Darkness + Ultimate Light

Ultimate Light = Great Darkness

Yahweh = 2 * Great Darkness'

Yahweh > Great Darkness

Thanos w/ Heart >> Yahweh > Great Darkness

And what's your evidence for this?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
And what's your evidence for this?
A,B,C logic >>All.
See what I did there?

I havent even voted yet an the votes are in favor for passes ...

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I havent even voted yet an the votes are in favor for passes ...

LOoks like many think he stops at mxy too.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOoks like many think he stops at mxy too.

Its a screwy gauntlet.

IMO he would probably stalemate Myx, but he should easily be able to take DS w/ ALE, the IG and the LT.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Its a screwy gauntlet.

IMO he would probably stalemate Myx, but he should easily be able to take DS w/ ALE, the IG and the LT.
The ALE was stated to be trillion times the power of Mxy.

*Bump

Yo.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The ALE was stated to be trillion times the power of Mxy.

does the ALE allow 1 to re-write reality??

personally, I say he gets stopped @ #4 (granted, I dont know who the Ultimator is, and have never read anything w/them in it).




Tazer

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That would be Kismet. she is the Multiversal guardian of the main DCU.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um no. Kismet isn't Universal. She said what she was when she came out.

Kismet is the equal of the Multieternity.

It's obvious in JLAvengers that that was multiEternity.

The story was about the Entire DCU multiverse and the Marvel multiverse.

it was meant to represent universes. not just one universe each.

I have to disagree with this,

JLAvengers deals with Eternity the Single Universe, nothing more.

Kismet is the equal of 616 Eternity (One Universe and nothing more)


The whole story takes place within Two Galaxies, one on each side.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3669/e2ji3.th.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/341/25159362pa1.th.jpg
"There was a Universe"

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8329/57968493iu3.th.jpg
"And WITHIN that Universe ... a young Galaxy spins"




On the DC side, same thing:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1561/k2jw2.th.jpg




When the Two single Universes merged, they became Two:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1548/avgrsjla0305xu5.th.jpg




Krona merging the 616 Reality and DC's prime Earth:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1139/avgrsjla0331lj7.th.jpg




ONLY Galaxies were affected by this merger:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7250/030avengersjla004rembrapt2.th.jpg



Spectre separates the Two Single Universes,

visualized by only separating Two Earths:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4265/040avengersjla004rembrams9.th.jpg




All is well:

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7013/042avengersjla004rembraps9.th.jpg



Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No the list is correct, Kismet is universal, it has been stated serval of times, Eternity is its equal.

You were right Thanos_THOTU.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
How far does he get.

1. Mxyztplk
2. Darksied with the Anti-Life Equation
3. Ultimator
4. Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
5. Lucifer with Michael's power
6. Living Tribunal
7. Spectre merged with the Source
8. The Great Darkness
9. Thanos with the Heart

In Marvel only the TOAA and the THOTI can take Classic Beyonder, IMO.

What ever equals that in DC takes Beyonder, nothing else.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I have to disagree with this,

JLAvengers deals with Eternity the Single Universe, nothing more.

Kismet is the equal of 616 Eternity (One Universe and nothing more)


The whole story takes place within Two Galaxies, one on each side.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3669/e2ji3.th.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/341/25159362pa1.th.jpg
"There was a Universe"

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8329/57968493iu3.th.jpg
"And WITHIN that Universe ... a young Galaxy spins"




On the DC side, same thing:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1561/k2jw2.th.jpg




When the Two single Universes merged, they became Two:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1548/avgrsjla0305xu5.th.jpg




Krona merging the 616 Reality and DC's prime Earth:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1139/avgrsjla0331lj7.th.jpg




ONLY Galaxies were affected by this merger:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7250/030avengersjla004rembrapt2.th.jpg



Spectre separates the Two Single Universes,

visualized by only separating Two Earths:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4265/040avengersjla004rembrams9.th.jpg




All is well:

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7013/042avengersjla004rembraps9.th.jpg





You were right Thanos_THOTU.
NO he isn't And neither are you. Please go read some DC. Dominus was already multiversal. Kismet was more powerful than He and he wanted her position and power. When kismet came out, she said she was the guardian of ALL realities. Please dont' try and force your hiearchy on DC characters that you have limited knowlege about. As for The Eternity Kismet thing, The items in the story were multiversal in power( most of them), So it's fair to say that the story was representitive of all things marvel and all things DC. Krona was beyond any mere one or two universes. And he still stopped all that power. Next.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As for The Eternity Kismet thing, The items in the story were multiversal in power( most of them), So it's fair to say that the story was representitive of all things marvel and all things DC. Krona was beyond any mere one or two universes. And he still stopped all that power.

Next.


Originally posted by Mr Master
The whole story takes place within Two Galaxies, one on each side.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3669/e2ji3.th.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/341/25159362pa1.th.jpg
"There was a Universe"

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8329/57968493iu3.th.jpg
"And WITHIN that Universe ... a young Galaxy spins"

whistling


Next.

Originally posted by Mr Master



whistling


Next.

LOL you are so slow witted that you think your smart. Where a story takes place has not a thing to do with the power of the story. How many stories have taken place on Earth? Are those beings limited to Earth? OF course the ****ing story didn't place in all of marvel and all of dc. that was just be rediculous. Next.

Oh and one other thing tard ass, Krona was obliterating universes in the beginning of the story. Hence a multiversal story. Now go hide your face in a HOLE.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Oh and one other thing tard ass,

Krona was obliterating universes in the beginning of the story.

Hence a multiversal story.

Now go hide your face in a HOLE.

hmm .... I think not.

Krona only destroyed Two Universes in the beginning,



The Universe that houses the World Polemachus:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7236/ja0102xc3.th.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6433/ja0103vx8.th.jpg
"Polemachus Dies ... and A Universe Dies with it"




And The World of Quard:

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9622/ja0104tc2.th.jpg

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6011/ja0105sq7.th.jpg
"The Quardians, the World they stand on & the Universe it floats in, is no more"

both were DC Universes.



Then he he bumbed into Grandmaster and the story concentrated on the 616 Reality and DC's prime Reality,

and Nothing more.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL you are so slow witted that you think your smart.

Next.

Perhaps, but I'm the one posting the facts concerning JLAvengers with the proof,

and you're the one yip yapping away willingly contradicting what is clearly being depicted On Panel artistically coupled with legitimate statements.


As you wish.

Mr. M you know a lot about Marvel and DC, so is the list inaccurate?

Originally posted by Mr Master
hmm .... I think not.

Krona only destroyed Two Universes in the beginning,



The Universe that houses the World Polemachus:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7236/ja0102xc3.th.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6433/ja0103vx8.th.jpg
"Polemachus Dies ... and A Universe Dies with it"




And The World of Quard:

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9622/ja0104tc2.th.jpg

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6011/ja0105sq7.th.jpg
"The Quardians, the World they stand on & the Universe it floats in, is no more"

both were DC Universes.



Then he he bumbed into Grandmaster and the story concentrated on the 616 Reality and DC's prime Reality,

and Nothing more.




Perhaps, but I'm the one posting the facts concerning JLAvengers with the proof,

and you're the one yip yapping away willingly contradicting what is clearly being depicted On Panel artistically coupled with legitimate statements.


As you wish.

You just made yourself look stupid. YOu try to make this story about one universe, when cleary he destroyed universes as I said. Kismet is the multiversal guardian of all of the DC realities as she said. I dont' give a **** about the 616. The story shows 3 dc universes. all that other bullshit you are trying to say is just that. leave what you wish her to be out of it. Your trying to make her eternity's equiv when you don't know a God damned thing about DC to be honest. Most of what you know comes from me. And others backing me up.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You just made yourself look stupid.

By presenting evidence with my claims,

I see.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
YOu try to make this story about one universe, when cleary he destroyed universes as I said.

Krona destroyed Only Two Universes, and then bumped into Grandmaster,

the story evolved from there and NEVER went any bigger than Reality 616 where Galaxies were being affected.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Kismet is the multiversal guardian of all of the DC realities as she said.

Then according to this Arc,

The DC Multiversal Guardian = Eternity the 616 Reality.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' give a **** about the 616.

You should,

cause it's 616 Eternity loving Kismet, NOT Multi.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The story shows 3 dc universes.

I agree,

1. Polemechus

2. Quard

3. Kismet


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
all that other bullshit you are trying to say is just that.

It's all straight from the Comic Book.

So your contempt is unsound.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
leave what you wish her to be out of it.

Your trying to make her eternity's equiv when you don't know a God damned thing about DC to be honest.

Write DC & Marvel a letter if you don't like it,

until then:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1548/avgrsjla0305xu5.th.jpg

616 Eternity romancing Kismet.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Most of what you know comes from me.



I'll be soon knowing MORE than you.

You don't even know the facts or details to your claims, and I'm learning?

You're learning from me is a more accurate statement.

Originally posted by Mr Master
By presenting evidence with my claims,

I see.




Krona destroyed Only Two Universes, and then bumped into Grandmaster,

the story evolved from there and NEVER went any bigger than Reality 616 where Galaxies were being affected.




Then according to this Arc,

The DC Multiversal Guardian = Eternity the 616 Reality.




You should,

cause it's 616 Eternity loving Kismet, NOT Multi.




I agree,

1. Polemechus

2. Quard

3. Kismet




It's all straight from the Comic Book.

So your contempt is unsound.




Write DC & Marvel a letter if you don't like it,

until then:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1548/avgrsjla0305xu5.th.jpg

616 Eternity romancing Kismet.





I'll be soon knwoing MORE than you.

You don't even know the facts or details to your claims, and I'm learning?

You're learning from me is a more accurate statement.

You actually aren't showing that you know anything. I pwned you from the start when I said the story was about more than two universes. you changed your argument once i made you look the fool. And It's obvious that Eternity is representitive of the multi. The story has multiversal elements all thru it. I know my details and facts enough to knw that you didn't know what the **** you were talking about with kismet or with the multi universes. so maybe you just feel so stupid becuz you didn't know your shit and I really pwned you and now you must save face. what ever gets you hard. You still got pwned.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Mr. M you know a lot about Marvel and DC, so is the list inaccurate?

I honestly still don't know enough about DC's Cosmology to make open claims with confidence.

I did acquire ALL the info on DC's Cosmological History from it's conception to it's Present.

I just have to read now, and I will.

Within the next Two Months I should know what I need.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I honestly still don't know enough about DC's Cosmology to make open claims with confidence.

I did acquire ALL the info on DC's Cosmological History from it's conception to it's Present.

I just have to read now, and I will.

Within the next Two Months I should know what I need.

No you won't. There are so many obscure DC cosmics that you would only know if you been collecting DC for years as I have. You'd have to own at least 10,000 DC comics. Which is about what you probably have in marvel comics. DC cosmic just pop up in the damnedest of stories and never show up again.

Thanos with the heart is the ultimate one ? At least one can say that this list indeed just opinion based .

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Thanos with the heart is the ultimate one ? At least one can say that this list indeed just opinion based .
Exactly.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You actually aren't showing that you know anything. I pwned you from the start when I said the story was about more than two universes. you changed your argument once i made you look the fool. And It's obvious that Eternity is representitive of the multi. The story has multiversal elements all thru it. I know my details and facts enough to knw that you didn't know what the **** you were talking about with kismet or with the multi universes. so maybe you just feel so stupid becuz you didn't know your shit and I really pwned you and now you must save face. what ever gets you hard. You still got pwned.

hysterical2


"I pwned you from the start"

"you changed your argument once i made you look the fool"

"It's obvious that Eternity is representitive of the multi"

"knw that you didn't know what the **** you were talking about"

"so maybe you just feel so stupid becuz you didn't know your shit"

"and I really pwned you and now you must save face"

"what ever gets you hard. You still got pwned"



Dude lay off the Crack,

this is just hate talk cause you got bottom

and Now I see you deserved it.

You been shut down big time just now with overwhelming PROOF,

and all you can come back with are these simple, cheesy insults, with a spice of empty bravado like claiming pwnage.

silly child ...

Originally posted by Mr Master
hysterical2


"I pwned you from the start"

"you changed your argument once i made you look the fool"

"It's obvious that Eternity is representitive of the multi"

"knw that you didn't know what the **** you were talking about"

"so maybe you just feel so stupid becuz you didn't know your shit"

"and I really pwned you and now you must save face"

"what ever gets you hard. You still got pwned"



Dude lay off the Crack,

this is just hate talk cause you got bottom

and Now I see you deserved it.

You been shut down big time just now with overwhelming PROOF,

and all you can come back with are these simple, cheesy insults, with a spice of empty bravado like claiming pwnage.

silly child ...

OMG, your the tard that tried to say kismet was the Equal of Eternity. Are you not? aren't you the Butt cheek that tried to say the story only took place in one galaxy from each universe. I pwned you too hard with the fact that krona had destroyed 2 universes before hand. Get off crack dude.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
OMG, your the tard that tried to say kismet was the Equal of Eternity.
Yes, it's such falicy to base that on the one time they met.

I totaly agree with you, Nvr. Kismet is Stronger then Eternity, regardless of what's said in comics.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
your the tard that tried to say kismet was the Equal of Eternity. Are you not?

aren't you

the Butt cheek that tried to say the story only took place in one galaxy

from each universe.

I see you forgot about this:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/341/25159362pa1.th.jpg
"There was a Universe"

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8329/57968493iu3.th.jpg
"And WITHIN that Universe ... a young Galaxy spins"



The more you ignore the On Panel EVIDENCE the more we giggle.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I pwned you too hard with the fact that krona had destroyed 2 universes before hand.

Get off crack dude.

What does Krona destroying Two Universes,

have to do with 616 Eternity, and Kismet his equal?


Krona could have destroyed millions of Universes,

and it's still 616 Eternity in this story,

and what was depicted as his EQUAL ... Kismet.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I see you forgot about this:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/341/25159362pa1.th.jpg
"There was a Universe"

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8329/57968493iu3.th.jpg
"And WITHIN that Universe ... a young Galaxy spins"



The more you ignore the On Panel EVIDENCE the more we giggle.




What does Krona destroying Two Universes,

have to do with 616 Eternity, and Kismet his equal?


Krona could have destroyed millions of Universes,

and it's still 616 Eternity in this story,

and what was depicted as his EQUAL ... Kismet.

LOL. SO when surfer kissed Nova, They were depicted as Equals? Nuff said.