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Can the Doctor find a way to get rid of Galactus before he starts eating planets in his Galaxy?

No time traveling.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Can the Doctor find a way to get rid of Galactus before he starts eating planets in his Galaxy?

No time traveling.
Quite honestly yes. The tardis has been used to upgrade an ordinary human to have complete control over all of time, and delete entire Dalek battlefleets from every existing. The Doctor has also taken on near omnipotents before and won.

Originally posted by Akuki
Quite honestly yes. The tardis has been used to upgrade an ordinary human to have complete control over all of time, and delete entire Dalek battlefleets from every existing. The Doctor has also taken on near omnipotents before and won.

So has Galactus.

But Galactus is over this, he's the balance between all and nothing.
Galactus eats earth.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
So has Galactus.

But Galactus is over this, he's the balance between all and nothing.
Galactus eats earth.
And I have to emphasize that the Doctor has taken on opponents who far exceed Galactus. He's basically Dr. Doom and Reed Richards on crack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC0NuBaliLs

Boubou, the point is simple. The Doctor wins. It's that simple. The nature of the character is that his prep is unbeatable.

No one in comics comes close to him in terms of prep.

What does he do to Galactus though?

He allows Glactus to feed on the infinite energies of the tardis instead,so Galactus goes aqway and calls for the doc whenever he gets teh munchies.

Originally posted by Akuki
And I have to emphasize that the Doctor has taken on opponents who far exceed Galactus. He's basically Dr. Doom and Reed Richards on crack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC0NuBaliLs

The fact is that Strange and Doom are nowhere near Galactus in term of power. Doom have science in his corner. Does the Doctor have it too?

Did you know that Galactus owned Mephisto in his realm, and kick the sorry but in Agamotto's realm too?

What kind of prep could the Doctor have? Doom and Richards could make a device to steal his power, but I don't see how Strange, who is just magic based, could compete with THAT.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Boubou, the point is simple. The Doctor wins. It's that simple. The nature of the character is that his prep is unbeatable.

No one in comics comes close to him in terms of prep.

What kind of prep he can have?

In term of prep, I think that Thanos is the king, seconded by Doom and Richards, followed by Batman, Tony Stark and Doctor Strange.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
What kind of prep he can have?

In term of prep, I think that Thanos is the king, seconded by Doom and Richards, followed by Batman, Tony Stark and Doctor Strange.

Think about it this way. The Doctor has an intelligence level that outstrips Thanos, Dr. Doom, and Reed Richards. He also has a ship that contains within it an entire universe, the power to hold together a collapsing universe, and which has allowed him to fight off Gods who were said to be capable of universal level destruction, and which has been shown capable granting the wielder near complete control over time and space. He also has a good record of permanently imprisoning powerful opponents in prison dimensions, or permanently freezing them in a single moment in time. And to make it even more clear, he's shown the ability to create a device that would instantly destroy all life on earth in under 5 minutes.

in other words he has prepped for worse than Galactus before, and he can do so again.

Oh and just to point this out, the Doctor is so badass, he often defeats opponents without using the tardis and just using his personal favorite weapon, a sonic SCREWDRIVER!

So what exactly will Dr Who do?

Be smarter than Reed, Doom and Thanos apparently... and if that doesn't win against Galactus, then dammit! I don't know what will.

Because he's going to grab the Nullifier and threaten Galactus with it.
Or, with him being smarter than Doom... he's steal Galactus's power.
And with intelligence above Thanos, he'll probably smash two planets together, with a massive nuke/Galactus in the middle of it.

Galactus just whips out his ultimate nullifier and deletes Dr. Who from existence.

Originally posted by Mindset
Galactus just whips out his ultimate nullifier and deletes Dr. Who from existence. He's smarter than Reed. That won't work.

Shit I forgot about that.

Well Galactus calls in Punisher then, you know he performed surgery on himself.

Shit!

Surely he didn't call in Punisher with a GL ring with 200 years though? 'Cause that would be overkill.

I doubt Galactus would do something that dangerous, Frank might just decide to destroy the universe on a whim

I doubt it.

He would probably perform surgery on the multiverse though, and erase Bone Claws Wolverine from existence, and then kick 'Who' in the trachea.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I doubt it.

He would probably perform surgery on the multiverse though, and erase Bone Claws Wolverine from existence, and then kick 'Who' in the trachea.

I think I have that comic.

I know Who is a genius, but where is stated that his intelligence is so beyond Thanos?

If this in an in-character battle of course that Who stops Galactus.

What about Galactus one shot our universe?

The Doctor froze his enemies in time and trapped one in every mirror in existence.

He can take Galactus.

Originally posted by grey fox
The Doctor froze his enemies in time and trapped one in every mirror in existence.

He can take Galactus.

yeah the doctor is pretty diesel, but honestly your statement as it stands has no backing....freezing enemies in time, and trapping one in every mirror?

those are not impressive feats relative to big G

Galactus can warp reality and has the ability to time travel too (since he gave Surfer his powers ...).


Galactus is also infinitely beyond Thanos in terms of Intelligence and Knowledge. his mind is on a whole other - abstract - level, his tech beyond Thanos ...

it really wouldn't mean anything to say that a character poses a threat to Galactus because that character is more intelligent than Thanos. the fact is Galactus is a God in a truer sense than any old Odin or whatnot, he really approaches omnipotence, omniscience and (with reality warping and his cosmic consonance job) omni-presence.

Galactus for the win.

The fact is, you can't really see why the Doctor wins unless you watch the show.

The character simply does not lose. srug

I used to watch Doctor Who. even suffered the new Doctor (that Tennant guy)... but it's just boring and childish, so I stopped.


anyway no, Doctor's not upto taking on Galactus, imo. he's better off trying to be Thanos' nemesis.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The fact is, you can't really see why the Doctor wins unless you watch the show.

The character simply does not lose. srug
Honestly that's pretty much the basis of the character. He's even more of a plot device than Reed or Thanos could ever hope to be. As for people's questions about how he could deal with Galactus, he has a couple of options.
1. He can use the Tardis to delete him from ever existing, which is something he's done before to powerful opponents.
2. He can forcibly transfer him to another universe. In the Doctor's brief Marvel comics run he was able to forcibly transfer a threat from his universe to marvel 616.
3. If a person has just completed transit into his universe, he can effectively create a black hole type effect drawing them back into their universe.
4. I have no clue what else he would do, remember this guy is plain and simple a plot device that puts Reed Richards to shame. However if you look at his track record and the resources he has available, he can definitely win this.

Galactus can eat time and space, which are the Doctor's main weapons. But seriously, in-character with peaceful Galactus I think this conflict is an easy one for the Doctor.

Originally posted by Akuki
Honestly that's pretty much the basis of the character. He's even more of a plot device than Reed or Thanos could ever hope to be. As for people's questions about how he could deal with Galactus, he has a couple of options.
1. He can use the Tardis to delete him from ever existing, which is something he's done before to powerful opponents.
2. He can forcibly transfer him to another universe. In the Doctor's brief Marvel comics run he was able to forcibly transfer a threat from his universe to marvel 616.
3. If a person has just completed transit into his universe, he can effectively create a black hole type effect drawing them back into their universe.
4. I have no clue what else he would do, remember this guy is plain and simple a plot device that puts Reed Richards to shame. However if you look at his track record and the resources he has available, he can definitely win this.

Plus he has the bonus of a pretty decent soundtrack, that always helps.

The Doctor has a super jobbing Aura sorry but with prep his basically pwns everybody below the writer .

I still go with Galactus until someone show me him pwning a being with lvl of the potential primal source of Cosmic Power aka The Devourer aka Galactus

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
I still go with Galactus until someone show me him pwning a being with lvl of the potential primal source of Cosmic Power aka The Devourer aka Galactus
He's defeated the original devil before.

How strong was the Devil?

Titles like God or the Devil are thrown around, but their actually powers can be vastly different.

Originally posted by Akuki
He's defeated the original devil before. And Galactus pwned the devil.

Galactus at full power can eat the Omniverse.

Mephisto isn't really the devil, if that is who you are talking about.

Originally posted by Mindset
How strong was the Devil?

Titles like God or the Devil are thrown around, but their actually powers can be vastly different.
Honestly I don't remember, he has defeated a demon that was capable of Universal level reality warping though.

Also since when was Galactus capable of eating the omniverse? It seems like you guys are talking about galactus at his absolute maximum power, whereas the way he's portrayed in most comics he would get raped by the Doctor.

Originally posted by Mindset
Mephisto isn't really the devil, if that is who you are talking about. Shhhhhhhhhh! He might not know that!!!

Who is the actual devil in Marvel btw? I still don't know...

Seriously, who has Who dealt with on G's level?

I don't think there is a Devil, Marvel doesn't really deal with religious figures like DC.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Shhhhhhhhhh! He might not know that!!!

Who is the actual devil in Marvel btw? I still don't know...

Seriously, who has Who dealt with on G's level?

Well he's dealt with a demon with universal reality warping abilities, he's dealt with all sorts of elder gods with Odin + types of feats. The thing about the character is that he adjusts dependng on the threat. He usually has just as much trouble fighting a street level person as fighting an elder god. The essence of his character is that given a bit of time he will win. The thing is that most of the time you don't see him go for lethal measures because he prefers to resolve things peacefully. If the Doctor ever gets bloodlusted, you're basically F*****. He's has the Reed Richards type intelligence of being able to make plot device machines to save the day, along with resources that dwarf anything that Richards could ever get his hands on. Combine those two and I have to say that he can take out galactus, especially if we're talking the version we nomrally see in comics.

Originally posted by Akuki
Well he's dealt with a demon with universal reality warping abilities, he's dealt with all sorts of elder gods with Odin + types of feats. The thing about the character is that he adjusts dependng on the threat. He usually has just as much trouble fighting a street level person as fighting an elder god. The essence of his character is that given a bit of time he will win. The thing is that most of the time you don't see him go for lethal measures because he prefers to resolve things peacefully. If the Doctor ever gets bloodlusted, you're basically F*****. He's has the Reed Richards type intelligence of being able to make plot device machines to save the day, along with resources that dwarf anything that Richards could ever get his hands on. Combine those two and I have to say that he can take out galactus, especially if we're talking the version we nomrally see in comics. Now a weakened one, sure, but FP? No way. FP can absorb the Omniverse, and if Big G just goes for the kill, WILL win.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Now a weakened one, sure, but FP? No way. FP can absorb the Omniverse, and if Big G just goes for the kill, WILL win.
I'd like to see some proof of this supposed ability to absorb the omniverse.

To be honest though, according to the rules of this thread the Doctor can win very easily, all he needs to do is just send galactus back where he came from, which would be completely in character for him and which he can do quite easily.

Good to see you back Akuki.

Galactus' shit is so complex that Reed can't even begin to comprehend it. Who isn't smarter than Galan.

Originally posted by Akuki
I'd like to see some proof of this supposed ability to absorb the omniverse.

To be honest though, according to the rules of this thread the Doctor can win very easily, all he needs to do is just send galactus back where he came from, which would be completely in character for him and which he can do quite easily. 1. Don't have t3h scans.

2. And Galactus could just eat Who's verse. Go figure.

Galactus will make Dr. Who his herald.

Originally posted by llagrok
Good to see you back Akuki.

Galactus' shit is so complex that Reed can't even begin to comprehend it. Who isn't smarter than Galan.
Thanks, Llagrok, I'm coming back for the tournament, so I'll be on a lot more. I have to say that I think The Doctor can win this though. In all likelyhood he'd just BFR him back Marvel 616, or just use hit and run tactics to wear down galactus and keep him away from foodsources long enough to get him to a power level the doctor can deal with him at.

The Doctor with prep is the equivalent of the batkick. It cannot be defeated, don't ask why, it just can't.

Originally posted by Akuki
Thanks, Llagrok, I'm coming back for the tournament, so I'll be on a lot more. I have to say that I think The Doctor can win this though. In all likelyhood he'd just BFR him back Marvel 616, or just use hit and run tactics to wear down galactus and keep him away from foodsources long enough to get him to a power level the doctor can deal with him at.

The Doctor with prep is the equivalent of the batkick. It cannot be defeated, don't ask why, it just can't. 1. Well...what powerlevel is G starting at is my question?

2. The Batkick has made Solomon Grundy gasp, broken Darkseid's nose, and made the Spectre its b!tch, they cannot be compared.

Originally posted by Akuki
Honestly that's pretty much the basis of the character. He's even more of a plot device than Reed or Thanos could ever hope to be. As for people's questions about how he could deal with Galactus, he has a couple of options.
1. He can use the Tardis to delete him from ever existing, which is something he's done before to powerful opponents.
2. He can forcibly transfer him to another universe. In the Doctor's brief Marvel comics run he was able to forcibly transfer a threat from his universe to marvel 616.
3. If a person has just completed transit into his universe, he can effectively create a black hole type effect drawing them back into their universe.
4. I have no clue what else he would do, remember this guy is plain and simple a plot device that puts Reed Richards to shame. However if you look at his track record and the resources he has available, he can definitely win this.

to be fair:

1. Tardis vs. UN?
2. G can do the same to the dr., though for argument's sake G has the capability of inter and extra-dimensional travel....going to another universe is literally a 5 block walk
3. Same as number 2...Galactus' tech can extricate people from black holes that lead to alternate dimensions (i.e., the realm of the vishanti, lord chaos, and master order)
4. I don't get all the comparisons to reed...Galactus' intelligence>>>>>>>>>>>reed's
Galactus' tech >>>>>>>>>>>>>>reed's

If you bring up defeats...when has reed defeated galactus when the plot device (galactus' hunger) is meant to make the character fallible? reed uses G's machines and tech against him, that's all he can do. That of course is CIS and PIS on the part of Galactus.

If we take G to the best of his abilities, which are default forum rules, he does not ever lose to his own tech, and he does not ever lose to reed.

the doctor is a different situation but the idea is the same..."plot device intelligence" would not work.

the doctor is the grandmanipulator......

he will get galactus to destroy himself

the same way that he god davros to destroy skaro

and destroyed an entire cyber invastion fleet.

you forget that the doctor is a scientifc genius telepathic

look how he was able to defeat a being like fenric for instance?

i am sure that the doctor can create an ultimate nullifer

Originally posted by rougeredmage
the doctor is the grandmanipulator......

he will get galactus to destroy himself

the same way that he god davros to destroy skaro

and destroyed an entire cyber invastion fleet.

you forget that the doctor is a scientifc genius telepathic

look how he was able to defeat a being like fenric for instance?

i am sure that the doctor can create an ultimate nullifer

1- Galactus isn't a moron.
2- Galactus destroy plantets in 5 minuts for breakfest, with is energy convertor.
3- Galactus is leeeeeagues above anyone, even the great Thanos, when it comes to science. Hell, Thanos is leeeeeeagues above anyone from earth in science.

And maybe The Doctor defeated "the devil". But Mephisto is "the devil", in marvel. He's know like it. He's the one who go cath soul. And he's the one who get owned while Galactus was this close to eat Hell.

Galactus has controlled time as well...

And could just punch the Doctor's head off. Or blow his ship up.

Originally posted by Akuki

I'd like to see some proof of this supposed ability to absorb the omniverse.

That future-self of Galactus 616 in the Black Celestial arc,
was an OMNIVERSAL threat,
not just a threat in fact,
indeed,
Galactus was beginning the process of absorbing the Omniverse entire:

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These scans are from Avengers v1. #296 - 297

The beginning of the whole Black Celestial drama.
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Where Galactus was being prepped to begin absorbing the ENTIRE OMNIVERSE,

and the EDITOR of this arc was MARK GRUENWALD ...

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http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8987/biggomni1iq6.th.jpg

"Celestial renegade (Taimut) constructed a weapon (Galactus)
mighty enough to threaten the ENTIRE Space-Time structure of the OMNIVERSE"

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Nebula had control of some avengers and was planning on taking Galactus' power:

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1222/biggomni2dt6.th.jpg

"I have learned about the great weapon (Galactus) in Time"

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MAKE NO MISTAKE!


The weapon is Galactus! (FF#341)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3127/9te0.th.jpg

"Galactus Himself is the WEAPON"

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A mini artistic depiction of the actual OMNIVERSE:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/239/biggomni4vw9.th.jpg

"Suffice to say that the weapon is Supreme (Galactus)
the OMNIVERSE is vast beyond imagining"

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(Notice at the bottom of the scan, who the EDITOR is)

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1489/biggomni6zc9.th.jpg

"The greatest weapon (Galactus) in the OMNIVERSE is nearly mine"

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Is MARK GRUENWALD (the Editor) allowing hyperbole? ermmno

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This (FF#337-341) is from the actual continuation of the arc above:


Galactus was in the process of absorbing "ALL EXISTENCE"


http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/5524/11ms5.th.jpg

"Galactus who's busy wolfin' (eating) down ALL of TIME and SPACE"

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http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/8093/10qt9.th.jpg

"The time will come soon when ALL the Energy in the UNIVERSE,
through out it's HISTORY will NOT be SUFFICIENT to feed him"


The History of the Marvel Universe ... as in the expanded OMNIVERSE!!!

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Galactus was in the process of absorbing "ALL EXISTENCE" (Omniverse)


Confirmed by the Guardians of the Galaxy in yet another separate arc:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5047/20396565ii7.th.jpg


RESPECT Galactus yall! (evidently a potential Omniversal power)

Thank you Mr Master.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Thank you Mr Master.
Anytime.


A little food for thought I just remembered too,
it appears that the Dr Who Multiverse,
is connected to the Marvel Reality and BBC (Who ownership) seems to concede.

The Gallifreyan Multiverse, the future year of 8162,
is a future for the Doctor Who series.
Generally, the Doctor mostly travels to eras within his own universe or multiverse,
not other universes or multiverses.
But 8162 is literally Earth-8162 (a Marvel Alternate Universe)

Here are some examples that seem to cement this as fact,
they actually illustrate the connection between the Dr Who-verse & Marvel's continuum,
by depicting, "Who-verse items" (including Tardis) on panel (NOT cross-overs) withIN Marvel.
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Here (Excalibur #25)

Alistaire actually recalls a conversation with someone (probably Who himself)
from Gallifrey about "Trans-Temporal Dynamics"

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1343/gallifreyyv8.th.jpg
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Here (Excalibur #14)

Impossible Man actually created a "Dalek" (known enemies of Who)

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2831/dalek1fo3.th.jpg


Here's what a Dalek from the actual Dr Who show looks like for comparison:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/5669/daleks2pa7.th.jpg
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This is the most concrete evidence: (FF - #9)

Reed has access to Dr Who's primary gadget (Tardis itself)

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2015/who1vp6.th.jpg

"Of all the doorways in the World,
why settle on an antique call box?

I mean, it's not Reed's fault,
since he got it second-hand
from that wierd "Doctor" friend of his"
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Evidently the inside is a freakin near-infinite area of space ... impressive.
But really, it's more of a nexus point I discovered than an actual universe/reality.

Anywho,
if the Gallifreyan Multiverse is indeed connected to Marvel's cosmology,
then it is susceptible to being influenced by Galactus's function/importance to All Reality.

OMG...you have made me so happy...I spent hours on another forum arguing that PR Beyonder was more powerful than the character "Bad Wolf", and with this knowledge, it is undeniable.

BTW Mr. Master, do you know what comics the Doctor appears in? I've been wanting to make a respect thread for him for a very long time, so it'd be great if you knew some. Oh and if anyone bans any of my characters from this tourney I am so going to draft the Doctor
I'm not surprised he's linked though, he had his own series from Marvel for awhile which I have.

Didn't want to spam but this Dalek song is awesome and funny. A must check out!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAk2HjHSGbo

If we look at this like a Tv-serie then ofcourse the Doctor (the Good Guy) will win against the Bad guy (Galactus) either he will know that Galactus requires Biosphere energy to live ore Rose will open the Tardis and, imo, by some miracles defeat Galactus. Akuki has already mentioned many ways for The Doctor to defeat Galactus but imo it all depends on the scenario to be in character.

Now outside in a straight up match the Doctor will first have to locate Galactus when he enteres the Doctors Universe, he doesn't have timetravel at his disposal, his quest is to stop Galactus before Galactus beings to devourer Planets in the Doctors galaxy and seeing how fast Galactus can eat a Planet if he wants to then No the Doctor cannot stop, Galactus has shown Cosmic Awarness that at the very least go to Solarsystem level, how is the Doctor even going to get close to him?? Galactus will know his every move beforehand.

Originally posted by Akuki
Well he's dealt with a demon with universal reality warping abilities, he's dealt with all sorts of elder gods with Odin + types of feats. The thing about the character is that he adjusts dependng on the threat. He usually has just as much trouble fighting a street level person as fighting an elder god. The essence of his character is that given a bit of time he will win. The thing is that most of the time you don't see him go for lethal measures because he prefers to resolve things peacefully. If the Doctor ever gets bloodlusted, you're basically F*****. He's has the Reed Richards type intelligence of being able to make plot device machines to save the day, along with resources that dwarf anything that Richards could ever get his hands on. Combine those two and I have to say that he can take out galactus, especially if we're talking the version we nomrally see in comics.

I agree. This is putting someone who as part of his character eventually wins every time against all the odds, even against cosmic level & godlike beings, up against a character who (due to some unfortunate writing/PIS IMO) winds up being defeated, tricked, or thwarted by lesser beings in many or most of his appearances.

BFR back to the MU is the most likely since the Doctor is an expert on dimensional travel and has the tech at hand, or he might even duplicate the device Reed used to turn Galactus back into Galan. Worst case scenario the Whoniverse could wind up a planet or two short first.