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It's a completely unarmed fight. No shield, no batarangs, no gadgets or equipment. Batman doesn't have his utility belt or any gas pellets, tazers, etc. Neither man has any body armor. This is a purely hand-to-hand fight with no shadows to hide in.

Cap 8/10.

Cap definitely-he has the same level of h2h skill as Bats, but is stronger faster and more agile

Been done a gazillion times and Cap beats the breaks out of battyboy everytime.

This 'twist' is nothing new. This exact thread has been made a dozen times in the past; use one of those.

Originally posted by Soljer
This 'twist' is nothing new. This exact thread has been made a dozen times in the past; use one of those.

Batman 9/10 ftw

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Batman 9/10 ftw

You're joking, right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're joking, right?

Why? It's about as justified as saying Captain America wins this every time...

In this scenario, I personally give Cap the narrow nod for one reason. Batman can win this if he's bloodlusted. If he's willing to kill Captain America, he can win.

If he's just going for the KO, he'll get some wins, but Cap will by attrition.

Even then, I only give Cap 6/10.

Bat-rude is right, this is not a fight where anyone stomps. It's too evenly matched.

Originally posted by batdude123
Why? It's about as justified as saying Captain America wins this every time...

How do you figure, I mean without any weapons or armor this comes down to just skill and physical stats and while they are close in skill, Cap has the advantage in every physical stat.

Originally posted by Silent Master
How do you figure

Because saying Cap wins this every single time isn't logical.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I mean without any weapons or armor this comes down to just skill and physical stats and while they are close in skill, Cap has the advantage in every physical stat.

Extremely debatable. Correlations can be made between the two of them to show equal physical attributes.

Originally posted by batdude123
Why? It's about as justified as saying Captain America wins this every time...

I meant everytime we have this debate..........

Originally posted by batdude123
Because saying Cap wins this every single time isn't logical.



Extremely debatable. Correlations can be made between the two of them to show equal physical attributes.

In JLA/Avangers the writers said that Batman was indicating that Cap was superior.

Cap from what I could see beat Promotheus who downloaded Batmans fighting skill.

Also in another series Batman said that Cap had the slight edge.

Originally posted by batdude123
Extremely debatable. Correlations can be made between the two of them to show equal physical attributes.

Only if you don't use Cap's high end feats.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
In JLA/Avangers the writers said that Batman was indicating that Cap was superior.

How the f*ck was that in any way indicated in the story?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Only if you don't use Cap's high end feats.

Because Batman's high end feats pale in comparison, right?

Originally posted by batdude123
How the f*ck was that in any way indicated in the story?



Doesn't really matter if you didn't get the point. The writers intended what Batman said was an indication that Cap was superior.

Captain America is physically superior and is also more skilled,Batman is smarter and over all a superior strategist and tactician. Batman might be able to pull in a few wins, but those will rely on luck not his ability to out fight Cap.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Doesn't really matter if you didn't get the point. The writers intended what Batman said was an indication that Cap was superior. I didn't see it that way.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I didn't see it that way.

Thats irrelevant the writers said that was Batman admitting Cap was superior. Batman is not going to come right out and say that, hes too proud.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thats irrelevant the writers said that was Batman admitting Cap was superior. Batman is not going to come right out and say that, hes too proud. You have proof of this? I've never heard that. I took it was Batman saying Cap could win, not would win.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
You have proof of this? I've never heard that. I took it was Batman saying Cap could win, not would win.






Unfortunately though I have tried to access the forum and see the quote with my own eyes and have not had any success. I got this quote from Silent Master.

All Batman said is that Cap could win if they fought. That doesn't really show that Cap is superior.

As for the fight, I'd give Batman the edge.

That's not concrete enough. I don't even know what that is.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
All Batman said is that Cap could win if they fought. That doesn't really show that Cap is superior.

As for the fight, I'd give Batman the edge.



kurtbusiek
You can interpret it how you like, but my intent was that Batman was noting that Cap is the more skilled.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's not concrete enough. I don't even know what that is.

its the writers talking about the Batman Cap fight.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
kurtbusiek
You can interpret it how you like, but my intent was that Batman was noting that Cap is the more skilled.



its the writers talking about the Batman Cap fight. It's not concrete enough. A link to a website would be good enough. Anybody can write anything and say they got it from the writer himself. Sh!t I could make a account on another forum and call myself K.Busiek or whatever.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
It's not concrete enough. A link to a website would be good enough. Anybody can write anything and say they got it from the writer himself. Sh!t I could make a account on another forum and call myself K.Busiek or whatever.

Yes, yes I know but the guy seemed honest enough. Anyway this is better.

http://www.comicboards.com/avengers/view.php?rpl=031022232627

I wanted to show that they're both so good that it only takes seconds for them to measure each other, realize that Cap would win but it would take a long, long time, and move on to the real goal, which is what both of them care about.

Cap wins 8/10.

Captain America wins in a stomp.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
You have proof of this? I've never heard that. I took it was Batman saying Cap could win, not would win.

You never heard it, funny seeing as the first time I posted it was in a debate during 2006 that you were involved in, I even included the link to the DC boards where I found the quote.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=6341075&highlight=intent+userid%3A67348#post6341075

Originally posted by batdude123
Why? It's about as justified as saying Captain America wins this every time... I was thinking that also.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Captain America wins in a stomp.

Originally posted by batdude123
Why? It's about as justified as saying Captain America wins this every time...

Originally posted by YFZ 350
I was thinking that also.

Fail.