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Superman has to fight through several opponents to save the life of Lois Lane.

Stipulations are that he is allowed 24 hours to sundip between each match.

However each match will take place in a sealed 22 square foot adamantium cage and he will have his left wrist handcuffed to each opponent...with bonds made of pure but unbreakable Kryptonite.

Only killing his opponent counts as a victory.

Opponents are:

1. Ironman
2. Sandman
3. Spider-man
4. Batman with 1 week of prep
5. Sentry
6. Apocalypse
7. World War Hulk
8. Juggernaut
9. Silver Surfer
10. Thanos

How far does he get?

WWH, after that there is no victories and why did you give batman a week of prep, he should be # 10

I think a none jobbing apocalypse would be too much but hey, going by his on panel showings, superman would whip that ass.

If sentry knew how to use his powers right, he should be able to take care of him but since he lack in that department, superman would whip that ass too.

Spiderman gets one shotted

Sandman get turned to glass

Iron man get his armor ripped off.

Originally posted by carver9
WWH, after that there is no victories and why did you give batman a week of prep, he should be # 10

hmmm...So you are saying he stops at 4?

I'm not sure thats enough time for Wayne to survive a 24hour sundipped Kent in such a small fighting area....He's still a regular human.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
hmmm...So you are saying he stops at 4?

Batman=LT with prep.

Stops at Juggernaut. There' s no way for him to kill him.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Superman has to fight through several opponents to save the life of Lois Lane.

Stipulations are that he is allowed 24 hours to sundip between each match.

However each match will take place in a sealed 22 square foot adamantium cage and he will have his left wrist handcuffed to each opponent...with bonds made of both Kryptonite and Adamantium

Only killing his opponent counts as a victory.

Opponents are:

1. Ironman
2. Sandman
3. Spider-man
4. Batman with 1 week of prep
5. Sentry
6. Apocolypse
7. World War Hulk
8. Juggernaut
9. Silver Surfer
10. Thanos

How far does he get?

Sentry.

Originally posted by carver9
Batman=LT with prep.

Wait so he gets to amp before each match only to be handcuffed to his oppenents with handcuffs that will constantly make him weaker as the fight goes on?

WWH may have a shot the guy was hard to put down.

He definitely isn't making it past Cain in this scenario.

Originally posted by Newjak
Wait so he gets to amp before each match only to be handcuffed to his oppenents with handcuffs that will constantly make him weaker as the fight goes on?
Correct.

Oh yea i forgot batman carries kyrptonite with him at all times in his utility belt. So where as superman might kill him, he's going to be handcuffed to someone who has kryptonite on him. And if he does get by Sentry, technically the celestials don't let apocalypse die. I'd say he could take WWH but Juggernaut can't die...

Superman clears it. This is Superman with over a week of sun dipping.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman clears it. This is Superman with over a week of sun dipping. Dude it doesn't matter how strong Superman is gonna get.

He is going to be handcuffed by unbreakable K-Nite to an oppenent who can take everything he can dish out.

All Cain has to do is wait until Superman runs out of steam.

he clears this list of b-level losers.

Originally posted by Newjak
Dude it doesn't matter how strong Superman is gonna get.

He is going to be handcuffed by unbreakable K-Nite to an oppenent who can take everything he can dish out.

All Cain has to do is wait until Superman runs out of steam.

Lol, soooo true

Originally posted by shokosugi
he clears this list of b-level losers. Stops hard at Juggernaut

Originally posted by shokosugi
he clears this list of b-level losers.

Name me 3 a levels.

Originally posted by shokosugi
he clears this list of b-level losers. Stop trolling. All you've done the past week is post the same thing in several threads.

Juggernaut makes this unfair. He has no way of killing him unless he uses T-VO.

As for the rest...........the sundip will let him shrug off the Knite long enough to crush his opponents. Sundip puts him on a completely different level.

Didnt see the sun dip thing

8.

he would beat silver surfer, maybe not under normal stipulations, but surfer wouldn't go all out against a foe he knew next to nothing about, and with superman sundipped, if surfer doesnt go all out form the beginning he'd lose.

Originally posted by Trackz
he would beat silver surfer, maybe not under normal stipulations, but surfer wouldn't go all out against a foe he knew next to nothing about, and with superman sundipped, if surfer doesnt go all out form the beginning he'd lose.

Well, Surfer is capable of amping himself to levels that can't be determined.

And he can also draw from the PC to regenerate any damage indefinitely. He could also alter his size and mass, raise and maintain his body armor, or could possibly even intensify the amount of kryptonite present near Supes, or even encase him in it.....I'm not sure that he would need to "go all out" in this situation to simply survive.

7 or 8

He can get out of the K-Nite and he has a week of Sundip. No one on that list will stop him

Originally posted by xJLxKing
He can get out of the K-Nite and he has a week of Sundip. No one on that list will stop him
He cant kill juggernaut. And juggernaut doesn't get tired. Superman does. Superman could beat on juggernaut for a thousand years and it wouldn't matter.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Well, Surfer is capable of amping himself to levels that can't be determined.

And he can also draw from the PC to regenerate any damage indefinitely. He could also alter his size and mass, raise and maintain his body armor, or could possibly even intensify the amount of kryptonite present near Supes, or even encase him in it.....I'm not sure that he would need to "go all out" in this situation to simply survive. because surfer is one to always try and find a peaceful solution before he starts fighting, with superman this powerful, if surfer hesitated at all he would be KO'd in less than a second.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
He cant kill juggernaut. And juggernaut doesn't get tired. Superman does. Superman could beat on juggernaut for a thousand years and it wouldn't matter.
Superman would restrain Juggernaut. You act as if their battleground is huge and juggernaut will have time to gain momentum. Superman with a weeks prep would seriously destroy him. His strenght would be too much. IF no, then he will hold juggernaut done which should count as a win.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman clears it. This is Superman with over a week of sun dipping.



No way in hell supes is even touching thanos. Sundipped or not. Thanos has beaten WM thor and thor with the gem. supes might make it to thanos with a sundip but no further he has zero chance of clearing it. Killing Juggs even sundipped i still find that hard to imagine. He can beat him but to kill him i doubt it.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman would restrain Juggernaut. You act as if their battleground is huge and juggernaut will have time to gain momentum. Superman with a weeks prep would seriously destroy him. His strenght would be too much. IF no, then he will hold juggernaut done which should count as a win.
It's a fight to the death. Superman would eventually tire out. Even if he was just trying to restrain juggernaut. Also, doesn't superman have problems with mystical stuff? Could he even break juggernauts magical forcefield? Or has juggernaut been depowered again?

Originally posted by zeel
No way in hell supes is even touching thanos. Sundipped or not. Thanos has beaten WM thor and thor with the gem. supes might make it to thanos with a sundip but no further he has zero chance of clearing it. Killing Juggs even sundipped i still find that hard to imagine. He can beat him but to kill him i doubt it.
Actually he does. Even a small sun dip gives him a HUGE HUGE boost in power, but a week is seriously too much.

Originally posted by shokosugi
he clears this list of b-level losers.



sigh

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Actually he does. Even a small sun dip gives him a HUGE HUGE boost in power, but a week is seriously too much.
How does he kill someone who's impervious to physical injury. When was the last time someone punching Juggernaut was shown to actually physically hurt him?

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
It's a fight to the death. Superman would eventually tire out. Even if he was just trying to restrain juggernaut. Also, doesn't superman have problems with mystical stuff? Could he even break juggernauts magical forcefield? Or has juggernaut been depowered again?
You are seriously underestimating Superman with one week of Sun dipping. My guess is that I would put him on the level near Prime while depowered.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Actually he does. Even a small sun dip gives him a HUGE HUGE boost in power, but a week is seriously too much.



sundipped supes is the same supes just physically stronger. thanos has standed up to Odin himself. No version of supes is doing that minus mabey CA supes. Superman gains no new abilities. He gains no new attributes. Another words he gains nothing but increased strength and speed. NOw if thanos decides to duke it out with supes its all over. But this is not going to happen and we know this.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You are seriously underestimating Superman with one week of Sun dipping. My guess is that I would put him on the level near Prime while depowered. Prime couldn't kill Juggs either.

Week of sundip Supes > Prime imo

How power is a week sundipped supes. We really dont know if he'll be as powerful as a supes that dipped for an hour or 3 hours.

Sundip him for a month it doesnt matter. In juggs bio it says he's impervious to physical harm. It says his only weakness is magic possessed by the upper echelon of mystics and psyionics. He got hit with Thors God Force blast thing and it didn't phase him. If they're stuck together and it's a fight to the death it doesn't matter how strong superman is. Physical blows don't hurt Juggernaut. And he has a magical forecfield and can regenerate from a skeleton. He also doesn't need sleep. Superman will eventually pass out from exhaustion and which point juggernaut kills him

I know he cant beat juggs, it has already been stated that cytorrak blessed Cain with unlimited durability and Unlimited strength. There is no way that superman could put down someone who could possibly be stronger than him and who durability cant be breached.

Juggs can lay down and let superman pound on him all day with not a scratch. I was just asking a general question backed by no proof

Originally posted by carver9
I know he cant beat juggs, it has already been stated that cytorrak blessed Cain with unlimited durability and Unlimited strength. There is no way that superman could put down someone who could possibly be stronger than him and who durability cant be breached.

Juggs can lay down and let superman pound on him all day with not a scratch. I was just asking a general question backed by no proof
oh my post wasn't in response to urs carver. I guess we posted it at the same time. I was replying to the guy who said superman would be too strong b/c he had been sundipped for a week.

If your post was to me then read my post again, cuz that isn't what I was saying.

He is not getting past Juggernaut, because he has to kill him to win, which is impossible for Superman.

Originally posted by zeel
sundipped supes is the same supes just physically stronger. thanos has standed up to Odin himself. No version of supes is doing that minus mabey CA supes. Superman gains no new abilities. He gains no new attributes. Another words he gains nothing but increased strength and speed. NOw if thanos decides to duke it out with supes its all over. But this is not going to happen and we know this.
A sun dip to superman doesn't only increase his strenght, and speed, but all his powers. This includes his durability, powers, and everything in between

Superman dies at 5

Originally posted by Mindset
If your post was to me then read my post again, cuz that isn't what I was saying.
nope it was Jlxking w/e his handle is.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Sundip him for a month it doesnt matter. In juggs bio it says he's impervious to physical harm. It says his only weakness is magic possessed by the upper echelon of mystics and psyionics. He got hit with Thors God Force blast thing and it didn't phase him. If they're stuck together and it's a fight to the death it doesn't matter how strong superman is. Physical blows don't hurt Juggernaut. And he has a magical forecfield and can regenerate from a skeleton. He also doesn't need sleep. Superman will eventually pass out from exhaustion and which point juggernaut kills him juggernaut is more likely to pass out than superman, superman could just throw him into the sun

How would he do this sealed in an Adamantium cage?

Originally posted by Trackz
juggernaut is more likely to pass out than superman, superman could just throw him into the sun
No he's not. Has he ever been knocked unconscious? Superman gets knocked out all the time comparetively speaking. And they're handcuffed together in a cage or something like that.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
No he's not. Has he ever been knocked unconscious? Superman gets knocked out all the time comparetively speaking. And they're handcuffed together in a cage or something like that. yeah i forgot about that, and hes never been knocked out with a sundipp

Originally posted by xJLxKing
A sun dip to superman doesn't only increase his strenght, and speed, but all his powers. This includes his durability, powers, and everything in between Superman is attached with unbreakable K-Nite handcuffs to Juggernaut.

Superman's amp will be going down constantly until he is in fact far weaker than Cain.

Or didn't you read that.

Superman can not kill Juggs or Ko him or BFR him thanks to the OP stipulations.

If Superman is strong enough to toss Cain around with a week's worth of sun amping it won't matter as Cain will just be waiting around not feeling a thing. Then as each punch becomes that much weaker, that throw that less strong eventually Superman is going to run out of steam thanks to the K-Nite.

How long can superman go without sleep?

superman could always phase through the handcuffs...

Originally posted by Trackz
superman could always phase through the handcuffs... What does that do for him he is still stuck in a 22 foot cell with the green stuff still in there and effecting him with no where to hide.

Plus I always wondered what would happen if Superman tried to phase through K-Nite considering it fs up his biology it may not be pleasant for him.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
A sun dip to superman doesn't only increase his strenght, and speed, but all his powers. This includes his durability, powers, and everything in between


Exactly and supes is basically a brick no real exotic abilities to choose from. And dont bring up heat vision or cold breath or super hearing or intangability casue they usually if not almost never are used in his big fights. Dont care if his heat vision can burn a hole into adamantium, i dont care if its hotter then the sun. His heat vision in most cases dont do much to his oponents. Hell it dont do shit to even captian marvel. Supes will physically be able to beat thanos this i agree with. But he cannot kill thanos. this is impossible.

Originally posted by Trackz
superman could always phase through the handcuffs...


OK this is one of thoses things supes has done this mabey a few times in his history as a comic book character. Vibrating his molecules to pass through solid objects. In comic book theory WW and captian marvel( similar to supes) could probobly do this to if the writer wanted them to. The point is supes never does this he always uses his strength to physically power outta situations like this.


Supes does not get past thanos. any version of thanos minus a clone. thanos dont even need amps to beat a sundipped supes.

Originally posted by zeel


this is impossible.




THIS IS SPARTA !

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
How long can superman go without sleep? Forever.

say what? Hehas the power to become intangible. Which mean he doesn't need to break it to get out. On the other hand, Thanos, and everybody else will be handcuffed.


Superman doesn't need to sleep, eat, drink, or anything else. He went through a 1000 years of war.

I hate how people think Juggernaut can't be physically stopped. He can! If anyone believe that he can't then you basically saying LT can't knowck the living daylight out of him.

Why does it matter if Juggs can be physically stopped?

How does that help Supes at all in this thread?

Originally posted by Mindset
Why does it matter if Juggs can be physically stopped?

How does that help Supes at all in this thread?
I seriously think Superman with one week of sundipping would shatter him. First Superman will hold his hands together and then take his helmet apart and keep using non stop HV and Cold breathe then the crazy physical force.

And when that doesn't work or Juggs regens, then what?

Can Supes cut off Juggs power from Cytorrak?

Hmm, I didn't consider phasing. If he does that, and then punches through the adamantium, he can beat Juggs by BFR. Technically, it violates the rules of the OP, which blocks these options, as well as requiring a kill.

But, if he did use my idea, then he could easily get past Surfer and Thanos.

Stops at 8

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hmm, I didn't consider phasing. If he does that, and then punches through the adamantium, he can beat Juggs by BFR. Technically, it violates the rules of the OP, which blocks these options, as well as requiring a kill.

But, if he did use my idea, then he could easily get past Surfer and Thanos.

Original poster says fight to the death. superman is not mystical therefore he cannot kill Juggernaut. Juggernaut now has 100% use of cyttoraks power instead of the previous 30%. So for superman to be able to kill him with physical force you're saying he could kill Cyttorak with punches. There's nothing that's been shown to indicate Juggernaut can be killed...let alone with brute force, heat, cold, or any of that.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Juggernaut now has 100% use of cyttoraks power instead of the previous 30%. So for superman to be able to kill him with physical force you're saying he could kill Cyttorak with punches. Not true.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Stops at 8

stops at 8

Originally posted by Mindset
Not true.
Well he has 100% use of the power of the gem right? And if that lets him tap into cyttoraks power, and cyttorak wanted him to be the strongest of the avatars I'd imagine he's letting him use quite a bit of it. Would be pointless to make an avatar to battle other avatars and have him only able to use 30% of your power. But i could be wrong i couldn't find a scan saying how much of cyt's power he gets. I'll keep looking though :-D

Sundipped Supes is on another level to these guys. He sundipped for a short while in OWAW and his stats were amped to crazy levels. With 24 hrs sun dip non of his weaknesses would register, and his physical stats are off the charts so he clears this.

Juggs might be a problem but his mystical powers are far from omnipotent, he can be hurt with considerable force.

Originally posted by Allankles
Sundipped Supes is on another level to these guys. He sundipped for a short while in OWAW and his stats were amped to crazy levels. With 24 hrs sun dip non of his weaknesses would register, and his physical stats are off the charts so he clears this.

Juggs might be a problem but his mystical powers are far from omnipotent, he can be hurt with considerable force.
Please show a case where this has happened by non-mystical forces.

Juggs is the only problem, not because I think he would win but because without any BFR option there really isn't a way to beats juggs physically....it's literally a impossibility. The only option he might have is to cause the bolts keeping juggs helmet secure to break, once off he has the option of T-VO to mentally destroy cain. Everyone else is pretty much a walk in the park, but even with Cain I think he still has some options.

Originally posted by Makky
Juggs is the only problem, not because I think he would win but because without any BFR option there really isn't a way to beats juggs physically....it's literally a impossibility. The only option he might have is to cause the bolts keeping juggs helmet secure to break, once off he has the option of T-VO to mentally destroy cain. Everyone else is pretty much a walk in the park, but even with Cain I think he still has some options.
He has another thing under his helmet now in case his helmet gets knocked off.

Like I said, T-Vo would stop Cain. But that's a whole other can of worms.

And Cain's skull cap? Since when did that provide anti-psionics?

Juggernaut is literally the only thing stopping him from clearing the list.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Like I said, T-Vo would stop Cain. But that's a whole other can of worms.

And Cain's skull cap? Since when did that provide anti-psionics?


since he made it out of the same metal out of his helmet.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Superman has to fight through several opponents to save the life of Lois Lane.

Stipulations are that he is allowed 24 hours to sundip between each match.

However each match will take place in a sealed 22 square foot adamantium cage and he will have his left wrist handcuffed to each opponent...with bonds made of pure but unbreakable Kryptonite.

Only killing his opponent counts as a victory.

Opponents are:

1. Ironman
2. Sandman
3. Spider-man
4. Batman with 1 week of prep
5. Sentry
6. Apocalypse
7. World War Hulk
8. Juggernaut
9. Silver Surfer
10. Thanos

How far does he get?

Wouldn't the K-nite strapped to his hand essentially negate the effects of the sundip? IMO the adverse effects of k-nite traditionally hurt the shit out of him. IMO he should lose at 1. It all depends how fast k-nite can effect a 24hr sundipped supes. Bein g that there is no known calculation like (for every hour supes is in the sun he get X times stronger). As we seen K-nite traditionally immediatly effects Supes, and have him writhing in pain especially a big unbreakable handcuff sealed on his wrist... So yeah might stop at 1.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Original poster says fight to the death. superman is not mystical therefore he cannot kill Juggernaut. Juggernaut now has 100% use of cyttoraks power instead of the previous 30%. So for superman to be able to kill him with physical force you're saying he could kill Cyttorak with punches. There's nothing that's been shown to indicate Juggernaut can be killed...let alone with brute force, heat, cold, or any of that.

Let me see your numbers.

Why is xJLxKing going with the 'one week sundip' argument, when the OP clearly states 24 hours (one day), between each fight?



Anywho...seven.

4 if not then 6 or 7..

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Wouldn't the K-nite strapped to his hand essentially negate the effects of the sundip? IMO the adverse effects of k-nite traditionally hurt the shit out of him. IMO he should lose at 1. It all depends how fast k-nite can effect a 24hr sundipped supes. Bein g that there is no known calculation like (for every hour supes is in the sun he get X times stronger). As we seen K-nite traditionally immediatly effects Supes, and have him writhing in pain especially a big unbreakable handcuff sealed on his wrist... So yeah might stop at 1.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Why is xJLxKing going with the 'one week sundip' argument, when the OP clearly states 24 hours (one day), between each fight?



Anywho...seven.
There are 7 fight till Juggernaut. So 7 days=1 week

Originally posted by xJLxKing
There are 7 fight till Juggernaut. So 7 days=1 week

If he keeps the 24 hour sundip for every match, explain why the OP seems to think he needs to re-sundip prior to each battle.

surfer toys with superman

Originally posted by Enyalus
If he keeps the 24 hour sundip for every match, explain why the OP seems to think he needs to re-sundip prior to each battle.
The fights get harder

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The fights get harder

TBH, I laughed at the thought of a 24 hr sundipped Superman going up against Iron Man and Spider-Man. What about you?

Originally posted by Enyalus
TBH, I laughed at the thought of a 24 hr sundipped Superman going up against Iron Man and Spider-Man. What about you?
I didn't like the entire Idea of it. We have never seen Superman get more then a few minutes of Sundiping. How would I know what 24 hours would be

Originally posted by Enyalus
TBH, I laughed at the thought of a 24 hr sundipped Superman going up against Iron Man and Spider-Man. What about you?

is everyone forgetting the k-nite? Or am i the only person seeing that stipulation?

Originally posted by Lord Feron
is everyone forgetting the k-nite? Or am i the only person seeing that stipulation?
lol yea i think they don't remember it. Either way if it's a battle with no BFR he can't KO juggernaut anyway. Sundipped or not.

He can just simply T-VO, and a 24 hour sun-dipped supes would practically be at PC levels...aside from Juggy everyone else here on the list is in for a stomp.

Stops at Juggs

Originally posted by Lord Feron
is everyone forgetting the k-nite? Or am i the only person seeing that stipulation?

Dude, Krypto suffering from Kryptonite poisoning, cataracts and leukemia would be able to beat Iron Man and Spider-Man at the same time. Doesn't matter whether Supes is being exposed to K-nite. He'd crush those two.

clears it

Stop at Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Dude, Krypto suffering from Kryptonite poisoning, cataracts and leukemia would be able to beat Iron Man and Spider-Man at the same time. Doesn't matter whether Supes is being exposed to K-nite. He'd crush those two.

Superman with k-nite attached to him should be a auto lose....

So maybe he gets past IM and Spider Man by some miracle but other than that? **** no!!

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Superman with k-nite attached to him should be a auto lose....

So maybe he gets past IM and Spider Man by some miracle but other than that? **** no!!

Kryptonite doesn't affect him after he's absorbed a certain amount of solar radiation, this is based on the older Superman of Kingdom Come - where K-nite only gives him a mild head ache.

Originally posted by Allankles
Kryptonite doesn't affect him after he's absorbed a certain amount of solar radiation, this is based on the older Superman of Kingdom Come - where K-nite only gives him a mild head ache.

AND MAKS HIS I'S WATUR!!

smile1 Wot? ^

Originally posted by Allankles
smile1 Wot? ^

lol

K-nite also makes his eyes water as shown in JSA: Thy Kingdom Come special...or, err, is it called something else? Thats off the top of my head.