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BFR IS OFF
CIS IS OFF

Majestic

oh yeah?! More like split

i think he takes a good 6/10

CIS off? Nova. Hard.

i was waiting for you dmills, however, not hard. No you are to much of f a fanboy.,

Originally posted by amnesia
i was waiting for you dmills, however, not hard. No you are to much of f a fanboy.,?LOL. Fan yes. Fanboy? Nah. I've picked Nova to lose in several matches, including against Majestic the last time this thread was done a few months ago.

Thing is, there's a vast difference between Nova with CIS on vs Nova with CIS off. With CIS off he is as powerful or more so then Super Nova. Saal was at least Trans level.

Actually, if you want to get technical, Nova with the full Nova Force supposedly is almost as powerful as Galactus. At least that's what Firelord stated on panel the last time Nova had the full Nova force. But I won't go that far for fear of the backlash from the masses.

At any rate a fully unleashed Nova force Rich is supposed to be UBER powerful, which is why the WM so desperately wanted him dead when Richard was infebleedwith the transmode virus. According to the WM he would have eventually became uunstoppable if allowed to live. Richard has always restrained his full power. Historically it's been a staple of the character.

(Dammit why is there a time limit on editing?)

Anyway I meant to say INFECTED with transmode virus.

^ i understand, lesser errors like that means nothing, NOTHING I TELL YOU!

Majestic wins.

Majestic

Originally posted by dmills
LOL. Fan yes. Fanboy? Nah. I've picked Nova to lose in several matches, including against Majestic the last time this thread was done a few months ago.

Thing is, there's a vast difference between Nova with CIS on vs Nova with CIS off. With CIS off he is as powerful or more so then Super Nova. Saal was at least Trans level.

Actually, if you want to get technical, Nova with the full Nova Force supposedly is almost as powerful as Galactus. At least that's what Firelord stated on panel the last time Nova had the full Nova force. But I won't go that far for fear of the backlash from the masses.

At any rate a fully unleashed Nova force Rich is supposed to be UBER powerful, which is why the WM so desperately wanted him dead when Richard was infebleedwith the transmode virus. According to the WM he would have eventually became uunstoppable if allowed to live. Richard has always restrained his full power. Historically it's been a staple of the character. DUDE NOVA GETS KILLED HERE!!

I can't even think of any one at Marvel who thinks Nova can beat Mr.Majestic

Are you people serious?

Nova will ASSRAPE Majestic.

When unleashing more of the nova force than he ever had (Which mind you, was STILL not the full access of the nova force, Nova was STILL able to go up agaisn't the sphinx and withstand the power of TWO Ka Stones. One of which is enough to make even someone like Thanos think twice about getting into a fight with someone who has it, much less someone who has two.

I think y'all should brush up on your Richard Rider knowledge before assuming he is not extremely high in the Marvel universal food chain of power.

You read everything that I said and this is your response? Do you know what the Nova Force is or how powerful Super Nova was? Nova Prime has access to that level of power. I even told you what Firelord said about Nova's potential. CIS (among other things) prevents him from fully utilizing it. This is a CIS off match. Majestic has zero chance to win this.

@psychopath001,

Dude I've been at it since I first joined this site. BELIEVE ME these people don't know. They think Nova only started in Annihilation something. Most of them don't even know that Nova has once possessed the entire Nova Force BEFORE Annihilation, or that he has gone toe to toe with Thor, Black Bolt and Gladiator while he was merely a centurian.

It's an ongoing process. But quite a few have started to come around. Where have you been all of this time btw? I sure could've used your help here.

Originally posted by dmills
@psychopath001,

Dude I've been at it since I first joined this site. BELIEVE ME these people don't know. They think Nova only started in Annihilation something. Most of them don't even know that Nova has once possessed the entire Nova Force BEFORE Annihilation, or that he has gone toe to toe with Thor, Black Bolt and Gladiator while he was merely a centurian.

It's an ongoing process. But quite a few have started to come around. Where have you been all of this time btw? I sure could've used your help here.


So, you think Nova wins against someone who is close to a Pre-Crisis superman level brick?

@dmills
I think part of the problem is because Nova hasn't been oversaturated to the level of Captain America or Wolverine or the surfer (who pretty much have their faces plastered everywhere), so not as many people on this forum will know as much about Richard as people who have been Nova fans forever. Plus, alot don't even read the series. They probably just read Annihilation or something like that, and decided to jump to conclusions (In my experience anyway).

@Prep-Man
Not only does he win, he utterly destroys. There is no possible outcome not involving CIS that Mr Majestic has any sort of victory possibility.

We're talking about the only individual to singlehandedly destroy a massive capital flagship of the annihilation wave with his bare hands (Which firelord couldn't do, mind you), one-shotted moonstone with a single blast from his index finger, the first Marvel hero EVER to reach Knowhere, the celestial head at the very edge of the universe, Someone who was able to fight the phalanx transmode virus, keep his head clear, AND still journey to the far reaches of the universe to find a solution to the Phalanx problem, all while infected, and then finding a way to uninfect Gamora and Drax the destroyer. He was able to withstand a several solar system exlipsing blast from Galactus and come out relatively undamaged, all while projecting a shield to protect Star Lord and Gamora.

This fight is not fair for Majestic, no matter how you choose to look at it.

There is nothing Nova can do. Gravity? Maj can manipulate that as well. Energy? Majestic has energy proj, plus a shit load of other powers. Nova has no chance. Other than to die.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
So, you think Nova wins against someone who is close to a Pre-Crisis superman level brick? Nope

Nova used a single blast to reduce a member of the Luminals (More or less the avengers of a planet called Xarth) to nothing but a skeleton in under two seconds, and he did it by accident, he actually didn't even intend to kill her. He is also as far as I've seen, the only one of the heroes involved in the realm of kings situation who has been able to push one of the many angled ones back to their own portal without assistance from anyone else. While the Inhumans and the Guardians of the Galaxy as well as the Imperial guard were barely surviving as a group, Nova was able to fight off Dark Quasar, push one of the angled ones back to his own dimension, and then head back off to chase dark Quasar who ran off when it became obvious he couldn't win.

I mean, there's many people out there who can defeat Nova soundly, but Mr Majestic? I'm sorry, no. It doesn't work like that.

Good feat, but it doesn't mean anything to Majestic, who is super invulnerable to immortal at best.

Until Nova unleashes depths of the Nova force unheard of and rips Majestic to shreds.

One of the trademark staples of the Nova character is that he has never truly used the maximum extent of his power because he is afraid of what might happen if he does. Yet look at all he has achieved even while holding back. He has done things in the universe a lot of others put their all into and has succeeded without ever going to the extreme. If Mr Majestic lasts long enough to push Nova over the edge and fully engage the Nova force, you'll find out just how mortal Majestic can be.

i say more like split.

Or maybe 5.1 for nova, because i do prefer marvel.

Majestic has survived worse. A lot worse.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
There is nothing Nova can do. Gravity? Maj can manipulate that as well. Energy? Majestic has energy proj, plus a shit load of other powers. Nova has no chance. Other than to die.

Originally posted by dmills
You read everything that I said and this is your response? Do you know what the Nova Force is or how powerful Super Nova was? Nova Prime has access to that level of power. I even told you what Firelord said about Nova's potential. CIS (among other things) prevents him from fully utilizing it. This is a CIS off match. Majestic has zero chance to win this.

Nova is one of my favs ever. But Majestic is too beastly here.

Nova Prime
6/10

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Nova is one of my favs ever. But Majestic is too beastly here. I agree with this

@Prep,

No CIS remember? Blasting Nova with energy would be a mistake, he'd absorb it and amp. H2h woudn't work either. We're talking about a potentially trans level being here. At least.

Guy's, READ my words carefully. Super Nova was a trans level being, AT LEAST. Nova has access to all of that power. CIS is what stops him from using it. THIS IS A NO CIS MATCH. Is Majestic trans? No.

I'm just giving examples of his versatility. Why wouldn't pure force work? Is he untouchable? And how is his record with Secret Avengers?

Pure physical force wouldn't work because Nova can match the strength. Energy is out of the equation cuz Nova will eat it all. Mind games are out too because of the helmet, and Secret Avengers barely has one issue out, so we can't even judge that one yet.

What strength feats does Nova have?

I'll be totally honest, I haven't seen him do much in the ways of weight lifting, mainly because if he sees something really heavy is more than likely to use gravity to help him lift it. However, considering he punched through and ripped apart a flagship, and was able to go trade blows with someone like Annihilus, I think it pretty much speaks for itself.

Originally posted by BattleMage
I can't even think of any one at Marvel who thinks Nova can beat Mr.Majestic

Nova loses here.

I wouldn't put Annihlus in Majestic's class and Majestic has gone up against Spartan amped by Void, so...

Nova put his hand down Annihilus's throat and ripped out his heart. So we're talking heavy duty. My guess is that the more of the nova force he applies, the stronger he gets. And seeing as the Nova Corps had millions of members all empowered separately by this force, and it is now in the hands of one person? I still don't understand how you think Majestic can win.

Those aren't strength feats, though. You'd have to give me something so we can compare. Nova force is powerful and all, but it's nothing Majestic hasn't seen.

this is stupid, i regret starting it.

I demand that someone close it.

In a straight up power vs. power contest, Majestic probably takes it. Nova is versatile enough that if he uses his head intelligently -like his little brother does- he could win. Power isn't everything.

Originally posted by Psychopath001
Nova put his hand down Annihilus's throat and ripped out his heart. So we're talking heavy duty. My guess is that the more of the nova force he applies, the stronger he gets. And seeing as the Nova Corps had millions of members all empowered separately by this force, and it is now in the hands of one person? I still don't understand how you think Majestic can win. See Nova does that to Mr. Majestic penor and I'll be impress.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
In a straight up power vs. power contest, Majestic probably takes it. Nova is versatile enough that if he uses his head intelligently -like his little brother does- he could win. Power isn't everything.
Richard brother did well as cadet against Gladiator cousion with some quick thinking, but Majestic unlike Gladiator cousin, ulitilize his abilities in many of his comic showing.

A normal Centurian is around class 20. Going by his past feats as a centurian, Nova was more like class 90. The Nova Prime is supposed to be a 1000 times more powerful then a centurian so...

Originally posted by dmills
A normal Centurian is around class 20. Going by his past feats as a centurian, Nova was more like class 90. The Nova Prime is supposed to be a 1000 times more powerful then a centurian so...


20,000 tons isn't very much compared to Majestic and other bricks, but strength isn't Novas you know... Main thing..

@Prep,

Pure force wouldn't work because he wouldn't be able to touch Nova if Nova didn't want him to. He'd put him inside of a g-node with the gravimetric weight of 20 planets. He'd never escape.

Gravity manipulation won't be a problem.

@Amnesia,
True. It goes back to the whole super strength vs gravity manipulation thread from a few months ago. Besides that, you know that strength ratings at that level are worth shyte anyway.

Alright, this thread is doing nothing but moving round in circles.

Can Majestic last agaisn't Galactus? No

Can Nova unleash the full power of the Nova Force to the point where it drives him insane but with the upside of being able to at least battle Galactus? Yes (Whether anyone likes it or not)

Nova wins, end of story.

When has Nova beaten Galactus. Bad ass.

He hasn't.

The point I was trying to make was that if Nova pushes himself to the limit of his possibility he will be a cosmic entity powerful enough to go agaisn't Galactus, even though he is likely to lose, but still. It's more than what a lot of people have ever done.

What evidence do you have to support that stance? Curious.

Edit: I'll reply tomorrow. Dinner time.

Firelord stated it on panel. This was back when Nova had the full Nova force the first time. He said something to the effect of Nova is almost as powerful as Galactus or some shyte like that.

What's the most powerful Nova has faced with Nova force? Not talking about implied power here.

Sphinx with two Ka stones.

Originally posted by dmills
Firelord stated it on panel. This was back when Nova had the full Nova force the first time. He said something to the effect of Nova is almost as powerful as Galactus or some shyte like that.


Galactus is moving down the cosmic hierarchy though.

It wasn't pure power, right?

Nova and Sphinx? When Nova did win it wasn't because of pure power. It was because of a theory Reed Richards had developed.

The universe doesn't allow more than one Ka Stone to exist at a time because the power of two is too immense, but because they were in the fault the rules changed, and two Ka Stones were allowed to exist at once. Reed's plan needed someone who could stand up to that power, and of all the people there at the time, Nova was the only one who could fight the sphinx with two ka stones. Any one else would have been prison raped in a matter of seconds.

Originally posted by amnesia
Galactus is moving down the cosmic hierarchy though. Point taken. But he's still more powerful then Majestic.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
It wasn't pure power, right? Sphinx at that point was a multiversal threat. No it wasn't pure power lol!

Originally posted by dmills
Point taken. But he's still more powerful then Majestic.

sure about that? He did get taken down by the old power, they gayest thing in the universe.

I should also add that galactus is like a father to me.

Originally posted by dmills
Sphinx at that point was a multiversal threat. No it wasn't pure power lol!

Majestic has faced Void who was pretty powerful energy manipulator.

Originally posted by amnesia
sure about that? He did get taken down by the old power, they gayest thing in the universe.

I should also add that galactus is like a father to me. Hey man, it's Pak. What'd you expect?

Originally posted by dmills
Hey man, it's Pak. What'd you expect?


Hercules

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Majestic has faced Void who was pretty powerful energy manipulator. Void is what? high herald level? It really doesn't compare.

Universal at best.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Universal at best. Mine's bigger then your's

You sick puppy!