Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.

Assume both are blood lusted and in a neutral universe
how does this go?

Cyttorak.

edit: oh. Neutral verse. I have no idea then.

Eternity...does cyttorak really have any feats to speak of besides being beaten up by juggernaut?

BZ.

We talked about this before.

Do not speak of things you know nothing about and then regurgitate what you hear from others.

Yes, he has lots more than that, which of course, never happened anyway.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
BZ.

We talked about this before.

Do not speak of things you know nothing about and then regurgitate what you hear from others.

Yes, he has lots more than that, which of course, never happened anyway. No one has ever even shown me one scan or one reference saying anything Cyttorak did besides get beat up by juggs.

So feel free to prove me wrong but don't accuse me of saying what others say when its a pretty accurate statement.

So, you admit to not knowing anything outside of a scan of a scenario that you didn't actually understand,

and then go on to proclaim your lack of knowledge induced statement as one that is 'pretty accurate'. Nice.

I could post scans, but my motivation is low, as I'm dealing with you of all people.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
So, you admit to not knowing anything outside of a scan of a scenario that you didn't actually understand,

and then go on to proclaim your lack of knowledge induced statement as one that is 'pretty accurate'. Nice.

I could post scans, but my motivation is low, as I'm dealing with you of all people. So enlighten me oh wise one as to how the f*ck cyttorak wins

eternity was unable to kill juggernaut, so he gave him to oblivion tried to age him but couldnt so he let juggs out of his realm in return for some of cyttoraks power

this feat alone puts cyttorak above both eternity and oblivion

as broovert has mentioned
cyttorak>shuma gorath>>>Zom>Eternity>Galactus

Originally posted by Black bolt z
So enlighten me oh wise one as to how the f*ck cyttorak wins

This what you're talking about?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/62936/1521286-galactusisbetterthancyttorak6_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/62936/1521287-galactusisbetterthancyttorak7_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/62936/1521288-galactusisbetterthancyttorak8_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/62936/1521292-galactusisbetterthancyttorak11_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/62936/1521293-galactusisbetterthancyttorak10_super.jpg

If so, then you need to read these scans (sorry for the page rape):

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33809/1436513-dr_strange_sorcerer_supreme_44_3_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33809/1086252-drstrangesorcerersupre44_23_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33809/1086252-drstrangesorcerersupre44_23_super.jpg

Edit: Eternity wins.

eternity

If we are dealing with a non-jobbing Eternity (which we practically never see on panel), then this is is spite against Cyttorak...

Eternity should be only a notch below the Infinity Gauntlet, but the way he is typically shown, Cyttorak would have a decent chance of winning...

Anyway, jobber-ternity might get a 6/10 small majority, but if the "real" Eternity shows up, he spite stomps Cyttorak...

I don't know why people keep posting that fight like its actually showing Cyttorak losing to Juggernaut. Cain snatching the Ruby from the humanoid form of Cyttorak and essentially weakening himself by weakening Cyttorak is not evidence of anything. That wasn't Cain with all of Cyttoraks power either -_-

Eternity jobbing is kind of iffy
He loses because he doesn't care more then anything else and that was only one time against nightmare.

Having said that LOL no Eternity is not a notch below the IG hes essentially just a bit above Infiinity. Hes probably the strongest universal abstract at most imo.

Logically speaking, Eternity should only be a notch below the IG; Eternity is suposed to represent the sum total of everything in the universe combined...

Which includes Order, Chaos, Love, Hate, the Celestials, Galactus, all the Cube Beings, Elder Gods, Skyfathers, ect, ect; all of their power should logically be able Eternity's finger tip...

Eternity should logically only be beatable by a being more "infinite" than inself; the IG fits that description perfectly as it gives mastery over the universe...

So again, the "real" Eternity spite stomps Cyttorak...

The infinites shit on Eternity please stop using faulty powerscaling to validate your claims.

His form encompasses the universe it doesn't make him stronger then most of the characters your listing. He has access to his power alone not other cosmics that reside inside the universe.

Originally posted by SasuOna
The infinites shit on Eternity please stop using faulty powerscaling to validate your claims.

His form encompasses the universe it doesn't make him stronger then most of the characters your listing. He has access to his power alone not other cosmics that reside inside the universe.

Hence "jobber-ternity."

Based on what he's supposed to represent he is supposed to have the power of all the cosmics at his disposal; all the cosmics (and everything in the universe for that matter) are all simply a part of him (it)...

But they job the hell out of him to make other characters seem powerful/relavent in comparison...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Hence "jobber-ternity."

Based on what he's supposed to represent he is supposed to have the power of all the cosmics at his disposal; all the cosmics (and everything in the universe for that matter) are all simply a part of him (it)...

But they job the hell out of him to make other characters seem powerful/relavent in comparison...

But has Eternity ever won a "fight"? Aside from beating Dormammu once, I can't think of any.

What's his highest on panel showing of power? Going all out and destroying the planet Thanos was using as his homebase.

He's had some truly humiliating losses too. I'm not even talking about losing to the Infinity Gauntlet (which no one would blame him for). I'm talking about being manhandled by Nightmare, Bubonicus, etc...

On paper, he's in the top four along with Infinity, Death and Oblivion. On panel, he's a joke.

He lost to Nightmare because he didn't care at the time(which I assume is a way to justify him losing) and the first time Nightmare imprisoned him he was already KOed from when he fought Dormammu. Hes never truly lost to Nightmare in a fight imo.

I'm not familiar with the Bubonicus fight so I can't judge one way or another.

I think Eternity loses just as much as Galactus does

Originally posted by SasuOna
He lost to Nightmare because he didn't care at the time(which I assume is a way to justify him losing) and the first time Nightmare imprisoned him he was already KOed from when he fought Dormammu. Hes never truly lost to Nightmare in a fight imo.

Dude the fact that he was even KOed by Dormammu says a lot.



Basically Bubonicus "infected" him with consumption. It was a tear in reality that was devouring him and Eternity couldn't stop it's spread.



That's not a good thing

Originally posted by zopzop
But has Eternity ever won a "fight"? Aside from beating Dormammu once, I can't think of any.

What's his highest on panel showing of power? Going all out and destroying the planet Thanos was using as his homebase.

He's had some truly humiliating losses too. I'm not even talking about losing to the Infinity Gauntlet (which no one would blame him for). I'm talking about being manhandled by Nightmare, Bubonicus, etc...

On paper, he's in the top four along with Infinity, Death and Oblivion. On panel, he's a joke. He and infinity beat an infinity guantlet minus the reality gem....why is eternity such a jobber?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He and infinity beat an infinity guantlet minus the reality gem....why is eternity such a jobber?

See what I underlined?

Originally posted by guy222
eternity

Eternity... he is above all mystical beings.

Eternity mega stomps.

Eternity. Lol, though.

Originally posted by zopzop
See what I underlined? They are both one and the same, two sides of the same coin(as said by Eternity and Infinty themselfs)

Originally posted by zopzop
But has Eternity ever won a "fight"? Aside from beating Dormammu once, I can't think of any.

What's his highest on panel showing of power? Going all out and destroying the planet Thanos was using as his homebase.

He's had some truly humiliating losses too. I'm not even talking about losing to the Infinity Gauntlet (which no one would blame him for). I'm talking about being manhandled by Nightmare, Bubonicus, etc...

On paper, he's in the top four along with Infinity, Death and Oblivion. On panel, he's a joke.

Once again, I agree with you man...

Why the writters at Marvel want to make Eternity look bad so often is perplexing to me; maybe its because they can simutaneously drum up some enthusiasm for a given villian by making Eternity its punching bag, putting the universe at risk, and giving the hero something "epic" to do in the process (thereby making the hero relevant to the story)...

Thats got to be it as logic dictates that Eternity should be beyond confronting by some of the guys who have confronted him...

Would you agree that Eternity should be only a notch below the Infinity Gauntlet?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Once again, I agree with you man...

Why the writters at Marvel want to make Eternity look bad so often is perplexing to me; maybe its because they can simutaneously drum up some enthusiasm for a given villian by making Eternity its punching bag, putting the universe at risk, and giving the hero something "epic" to do in the process (thereby making the hero relevant to the story)...

Thats got to be it as logic dictates that Eternity should be beyond confronting by some of the guys who have confronted him...

Would you agree that Eternity should be only a notch below the Infinity Gauntlet?

It depends on how you see him. He's been retconned so many times it's ridiculous.

Originally he was EVERYTHING in the universe that Death was not. That Eternity should most definitely be only a notch below the IG.

However then came Infinity and Oblivion. Then Eternity became the Supreme Time Being, Infinity became the Supreme Space Being they along with Death and Oblivion represent the entire universe. This Eternity should be SEVERAL notches below the IG.

Currently it's a mess with the whole "multi-" Eternity, Death, etc.. crap

Eternity should but if this ever hit on panel Cyttorak would behave as juggernaut would around street level punks.