Thor and Superman vs Entire Low Meta Tier
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Omega Vision
Scenario One: Just Low Meta Tier
Scenario Two: Low+Mid
Thor and Superman are bloodlusted and using powers to full capacity.
Low:
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett), Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, K', Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Machine Man, Man-Bat, Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Molly Hayes, Multiple Man, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Ryu Hayabusa, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Venom, Vermin, Victor Mancha, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar
Middle:
Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes), Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Box, Carnage, Cloak, Corrin, Crystal, Cyborg, Cyclops, Death's Head, Death Wreck, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Enchantress, Farenheit, Flint, Fuji, Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze), Ghost Rider(Dan Ketch), Grace Choi, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, Link, Matua, M.O.D.O.K., Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nico Minoru, Ogun, Quicksilver (classic), Ragman, Rogue, rom, Shadowcat, Shift, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Tiger Shark, Toxin, Vance Astro, Vengeance, Wonder Girl,
carver9
They win scenerio one...
They get destroyed in scenerio two.
YoungGunna
They win 1 handily
But scenario 2 has a better combination of abilities to defeat the two
gogogadgetgo
Thor and Superman wrecks through both scenarios
Mindset
Blade bites Superman and kills him.
marwash22
Ghost Rider is mid-Meta?

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by marwash22
Ghost Rider is mid-Meta?
My thoughts exactly.
psycho gundam
thor whips up a massive hurricane, then superman picks people off with heat vision and thor uses lighting.
anyone left gets a superman punch or gargles an uru mallet
Mindset
Originally posted by psycho gundam
thor whips up a massive hurricane, then superman picks people off with heat vision and thor uses lighting.
anyone left gets a superman punch or gargles an uru mallet Apparently, you missed this.
Originally posted by Mindset
Blade bites Superman and kills him.
psycho gundam
that reminds me: if superman were to be bitten by a vampire, does the supernatural element to them allow the vampire's teeth to penetrate his skin, or do they just not work cause of his durability?
note* mjolnir can purify vampires since it's a religious symbol
-Pr-
Originally posted by psycho gundam
that reminds me: if superman were to be bitten by a vampire, does the supernatural element to them allow the vampire's teeth to penetrate his skin, or do they just not work cause of his durability?
note* mjolnir can purify vampires since it's a religious symbol
you can argue that they can pierce his skin, but after what happened to dracula, it's not really a good idea.
his cells being full of sunlight and all that.
Mindset
Blade is black, though.
He has soul, and he's superbad.
psycho gundam
Originally posted by -Pr-
you can argue that they can pierce his skin, but after what happened to dracula, it's not really a good idea.
his cells being full of sunlight and all that. what about vampires lower than dracula, like whatever morbius is?
Rage.Of.Olympus
Dracula broke Superman's skin. At one point I'm pretty sure he was losing to Werewolves. Some might have even cut him or what not.
His not that vulnerable magic currently -at least not on a regular basis- but it will still f*ck with him noticeably.
Rage.Of.Olympus
As in Cloak and Dagger? As far as I've seen his capabilities are limited to teleportation.
carver9
Blink teleport stuff into their bodies... Ogun is a living spirit that basically hacks people bodies... Rogue power drains why they are distracted... Ghost rider Penace stare... etc... etc... its TOO much power and versatality here.
Blair Wind
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
As in Cloak and Dagger? As far as I've seen his capabilities are limited to teleportation.
It's not. He is intangible - you try and hit him and you end up inside him. He eats souls (the light). And if you get inside him (which he often uses as an attack), without Dagger present you get trapped forever in a dark-force dimension with a soul eating monster that lives inside him.
He's most bricks nightmare.
shokosugi
Thor is not needed. Superman ends the fight in less than 3 sec. Via blitz
YoungGunna
Originally posted by shokosugi
Thor is not needed. Superman ends the fight in less than 3 sec. Via blitz
Not to Flash, Ghost Rider , and Cloak
Uriel005
Originally posted by YoungGunna
Not to Flash, Ghost Rider , and Cloak Jay Garrick is actually slow by supermans standards. Cloak and Ghost are only threats but I wouldn't consider a rider to be meta.
-Pr-
Originally posted by psycho gundam
what about vampires lower than dracula, like whatever morbius is?
no idea.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Dracula broke Superman's skin. At one point I'm pretty sure he was losing to Werewolves. Some might have even cut him or what not.
His not that vulnerable magic currently -at least not on a regular basis- but it will still f*ck with him noticeably.
yeah. though at the same time, he wasn't using his powers to their full extent. magic affects his durability more than anything, so if he's out to hurt people, i don't see him in too much trouble.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
It's not. He is intangible - you try and hit him and you end up inside him. He eats souls (the light). And if you get inside him (which he often uses as an attack), without Dagger present you get trapped forever in a dark-force dimension with a soul eating monster that lives inside him.
He's most bricks nightmare.
counter-vibrations. sneer
shokosugi
Originally posted by YoungGunna
Not to Flash, Ghost Rider , and Cloak
You're right. It may take a few more sec. For supes to defeat this team.
shokosugi
Ghost rider's a problem since he's kinda magical. I guess Thor can take care of him.
JakeTheBank
What if Thor says "Screw you, Clark. Handle your own problems."?
-Pr-
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What if Thor says "Screw you, Clark. Handle your own problems."?
If Rage was repping him, he most likely would.
That is, after trying to make out with him.
Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Blair Wind
It's not. He is intangible - you try and hit him and you end up inside him. He eats souls (the light). And if you get inside him (which he often uses as an attack), without Dagger present you get trapped forever in a dark-force dimension with a soul eating monster that lives inside him.
He's most bricks nightmare.
Neat trick but I'm pretty sure I've seen him get hit before. Wonder if Mjolnir will work on him. It's worked on intangibility in the past.
Which souls has his hunger been able to consume? I can't recall any extending past criminals.
Battle field removal would be a problem for Kal-El but with Thor around, he can always be brought back.
Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by -Pr-
If Rage was repping him, he most likely would.
That is, after trying to make out with him.
Superman would never ever betray Batman like that.
Although, he did have sex with Parasite masquerading as Lois. Wonder if Bruce ever found out?
YoungGunna
Originally posted by shokosugi
You're right. It may take a few more sec. For supes to defeat this team.
Maybe a minute
-Pr-
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman would never ever betray Batman like that.
Although, he did have sex with Parasite masquerading as Lois. Wonder if Bruce ever found out?
Jealous?
That was Luthor, not Superman, iirc.
Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by -Pr-
Jealous?
That was Luthor, not Superman, iirc.
I've learned to live with it.
Pretty sure it was actually Superman.
I wonder who was shocked the most that night?
Superman when Lois-Parasite used her pinky or Lois-Parasite when Superman said "Now the fist!".
tkitna
They lose both scenerios. Nightcrawler teleports Thor into Supermans body killing both of them for the win.
No seriously, they win the first and lose the second.
-Pr-
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I've learned to live with it.
Pretty sure it was actually Superman.
I wonder who was shocked the most that night?
Superman when Lois-Parasite used her pinky or Lois-Parasite when Superman said "Now the fist!".
Too much information, don't you think?
in all seriousness, though, I don't recall them actually stating that they had been together, due to Parasite's hostility towards Superman. Luthor definitely did sleep with Paralois, though.
Of course, I'm sure you want to believe that they did anyway.
Stoic
I don't see these two winning this.
Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by -Pr-
Too much information, don't you think?
in all seriousness, though, I don't recall them actually stating that they had been together, due to Parasite's hostility towards Superman. Luthor definitely did sleep with Paralois, though.
Of course, I'm sure you want to believe that they did anyway.
Facts are facts.
Everything I said happened on panel. I can even give you the issue number.
They sucked face and/or it was implied.
carver9
Nappa would win this though

.
JakeTheBank
lmfao @ Nappa.
Ghost Rider shits on his soul.
carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lmfao @ Nappa.
Ghost Rider shits on his soul.
That's all it would take is one lift of his hand at super speed.
Game set and done.
JakeTheBank
What? Nappa leveling a city? Ghost Rider would regen and shit on his soul. He'd be freaking the hell out when Vegeta tells him Blaze's power level is over 9000.
Nihilist
They lose in both.
-Pr-
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Facts are facts.
Everything I said happened on panel. I can even give you the issue number.
They sucked face and/or it was implied.
Then do so, please. I'm actually curious now.
JakeTheBank
Morbidly curious, maybe.
Though, that is really weird if true. Then again, I think Lex has been portrayed as pretty freaky in DC.
-Pr-
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Morbidly curious, maybe.
Though, that is really weird if true. Then again, I think Lex has been portrayed as pretty freaky in DC.
Lex did sleep with Parasite masquerading as Lois. It's pretty blatantly stated in the comics.
and yes, morbidly curious is accurate.
Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by -Pr-
Then do so, please. I'm actually curious now.
Action Comics #763 page 22.
carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What? Nappa leveling a city? Ghost Rider would regen and shit on his soul. He'd be freaking the hell out when Vegeta tells him Blaze's power level is over 9000.
On the real though... that blast was much more than city level. It was seen out of space as plain as day... it engulfed a percentage of the planet from the view outside of space.
Ghost Rider along with all of his other peeps would die (Vegeta would laugh at Ghost Rider PL being a measly 100... if Surfer power level was read at 9000, what do you think Ghost Rider power would be at

...).
As for the thread... do you think they would beat scenerio 2?
JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
On the real though... that blast was much more than city level. It was seen out of space as plain as day... it engulfed a percentage of the planet from the view outside of space.
Ghost Rider along with all of his other peeps would die (Vegeta would laugh at Ghost Rider PL being a measly 100... if Surfer power level was read at 9000, what do you think Ghost Rider power would be at

...).
As for the thread... do you think they would beat scenerio 2?
Ghost Rider wouldn't die. And to say nothing of some of whacky and versatile power sets among the tiers. I have no clue what GR's power level would be if Surfer was a 9000, either. I remember I had a DBZ rpg handbook that said Krillen from Saiyan Saga could beat Superman with his bare hands, to which I just lol'd and put the book up to never read it again.
On topic, if they went all out, I can see Thor and Superman raining death from above and those who could fly to intercept them being put down by massive AoE attacks. Thor has a lot of cheap ways to end fights if he feels so inclined.
Mindset
Originally posted by carver9
On the real though... that blast was much more than city level. It was seen out of space as plain as day... it engulfed a percentage of the planet from the view outside of space.
Ghost Rider along with all of his other peeps would die (Vegeta would laugh at Ghost Rider PL being a measly 100... if Surfer power level was read at 9000, what do you think Ghost Rider power would be at

...).
As for the thread... do you think they would beat scenerio 2? Umm, if a city was destroyed you would see it in space.
I'm not sure what you mean, "it engulfed a percentage of the planet from the view outside of space", well, actually I am sure, but that doesn't really say much about its size.
shokosugi
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What if Thor says "Screw you, Clark. Handle your own problems."?
i guess superman should expect something like that from a scumbag like Thor.
carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Ghost Rider wouldn't die. And to say nothing of some of whacky and versatile power sets among the tiers. I have no clue what GR's power level would be if Surfer was a 9000, either. I remember I had a DBZ rpg handbook that said Krillen from Saiyan Saga could beat Superman with his bare hands, to which I just lol'd and put the book up to never read it again.
On topic, if they went all out, I can see Thor and Superman raining death from above and those who could fly to intercept them being put down by massive AoE attacks. Thor has a lot of cheap ways to end fights if he feels so inclined.
Lolololol... I had that rpg. Krillin got some major props. They did an interview with NUMEROUS of DC writers on topics involving DBZ vs DC and all of them gave Krillin the nods over Superman in a fist fight. Do you remember the Darkseid and Orion fight where they were fighting in an arena and collided with each other (also fighting at super speed)... well the writer stated in that same Wizard that he wanted to make that fight have a DBZ feeling. They also stated that they did that for Superman and Doomsday rex... wanted to give Superman a DBZ moment (I miss Wizard and their crossover fights

).
When I brought up Surfers power level... wasn't Surfer power level read last year in a comic at 9000?
Has Supes and Thor ever prevented someone from taking control of their bodies because Ogun is here and he is basically a living spirit that jacks bodies.
carver9
Originally posted by Mindset
Umm, if a city was destroyed you would see it in space.
I'm not sure what you mean, "it engulfed a percentage of the planet from the view outside of space", well, actually I am sure, but that doesn't really say much about its size.
I know but 90% of that blast didn't even touch the city and the way this blast was seen, it was pretty much more than that.
I don't know if you can see this vid but here ya go.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=VeA0rawalYk
You might have to delete some pieces off of the address... don't know what part to delete.
Mindset
Originally posted by carver9
I know but 90% of that blast didn't even touch the city and the way this blast was seen, it was pretty much more than that.
I don't know if you can see this vid but here ya go.
VeA0rawalYk
You might have to delete some pieces off of the address... don't know what part to delete. Yea, that's light...look at the actual crater.
Also, how do you not know how to post videos, you've been here for years?
A city is actually pretty generous.
JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
Lolololol... I had that rpg. Krillin got some major props. They did an interview with NUMEROUS of DC writers on topics involving DBZ vs DC and all of them gave Krillin the nods over Superman in a fist fight. Do you remember the Darkseid and Orion fight where they were fighting in an arena and collided with each other (also fighting at super speed)... well the writer stated in that same Wizard that he wanted to make that fight have a DBZ feeling. They also stated that they did that for Superman and Doomsday rex... wanted to give Superman a DBZ moment (I miss Wizard and their crossover fights

).
When I brought up Surfers power level... wasn't Surfer power level read last year in a comic at 9000?
Has Supes and Thor ever prevented someone from taking control of their bodies because Ogun is here and he is basically a living spirit that jacks bodies.
The thing about DB/DBZ/DBGT characters is that they really shine when it comes to energy attacks, but physically, based on what they have done, it's extremely difficult to put them on par with someone like Superman. Which is why the idea of Krillen beating Superman from any saga is pretty ridiculous, imo. And where are these interviews? In my handbook, it just quantified some physical stat for Superman being like a "24 dmg per fist" to which they said "DBZ characters start off with 20 dmg per physical attack, so Krillen could hand Superman's Kryptonian butt to him if he really wanted" which, suffice to say, isn't damning evidence. I have no clue about what they said Surfer's power level was.
Yes, both of them have displayed resistance to possession via spirits or other means.
carver9
Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, that's light...look at the actual crater.
Also, how do you not know how to post videos, you've been here for years?
I'm debating from my phone and the way you just did it... no, I don't know how to do it like that (even if I was on a computer).
I usually just post links.
Mindset
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeA0rawalYk
Post what's after = in
Remove all the asterisks.
carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The thing about DB/DBZ/DBGT characters is that they really shine when it comes to energy attacks, but physically, based on what they have done, it's extremely difficult to put them on par with someone like Superman. Which is why the idea of Krillen beating Superman from any saga is pretty ridiculous, imo. And where are these interviews? In my handbook, it just quantified some physical stat for Superman being like a "24 dmg per fist" to which they said "DBZ characters start off with 20 dmg per physical attack, so Krillen could hand Superman's Kryptonian butt to him if he really wanted" which, suffice to say, isn't damning evidence. I have no clue about what they said Surfer's power level was.
Yes, both of them have displayed resistance to possession via spirits or other means.
You really haven't paid much attention to DBZ fights. When you have people shedding islands during their fights... creating shockwaves that's visible to the necked eye and that is covering the entire planet and then you have 2 people fighting that is basically shaking the planet... creating large level earth quakes and these feats are from the weaker versions of DBZ characters, then its pretty much safe to say that they are pretty high up there strength wise.
Durability... no character known to man or comics has ever withstood or went through a beating like Goku has, let alone Frieza.
I don't believe in the handbook things. I would give Superman the edge over Krillin any day of the week but Goku...
When has either of them ever resisted having their bodies taken over?
carver9
Originally posted by Mindset
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeA0rawalYk
Post what's after = in
Remove all the asterisks.
Damn... that's it?
Thanks for the info.
ares834
Originally posted by carver9
Do you remember the Darkseid and Orion fight where they were fighting in an arena and collided with each other (also fighting at super speed)... well the writer stated in that same Wizard that he wanted to make that fight have a DBZ feeling. They also stated that they did that for Superman and Doomsday rex... wanted to give Superman a DBZ moment (I miss Wizard and their crossover fights

).
Really? Well they failed. Not enough screaming and charging up.
carver9
Originally posted by ares834
Really? Well they failed. Not enough screaming and charging up.
I posted the interview a while back. They did pretty good imo.
JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
You really haven't paid much attention to DBZ fights. When you have people shedding islands during their fights... creating shockwaves that's visible to the necked eye and that is covering the entire planet and then you have 2 people fighting that is basically shaking the planet... creating large level earth quakes and these feats are from the weaker versions of DBZ characters, then its pretty much safe to say that they are pretty high up there strength wise.
Durability... no character known to man or comics has ever withstood or went through a beating like Goku has, let alone Frieza.
I don't believe in the handbook things. I would give Superman the edge over Krillin any day of the weak but Goku...
When has either of them ever resisted having their bodies taken over?
Shockwaves from their chi/auras, while impressive, doesn't mean they are physically in Superman's league. Breaking mountain ranges and causing earthquakes and sinking islands to sheer physical strength isn't something which is beyond Superman, either. It's their chi/spiritual energy which makes them even contenders. Using sliding ABC logic, which DBZ is known for, still doesn't really help their case when later in the Buu sagas, in the physical sense, they don't display anything beyond Superman.
....Yeah, Carver, people in comics have experienced worse than that. lol
Superman's prevented Jericho trying to take his body and Thor was flat out immune to the Space Phantom's attempt way back in Avengers #2, which had been referenced and re-referenced through out the years. To say nothing of Mjolnir's ability to migrate/dispel souls...
carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Shockwaves from their chi/auras, while impressive, doesn't mean they are physically in Superman's league. Breaking mountain ranges and causing earthquakes and sinking islands to sheer physical strength isn't something which is beyond Superman, either. It's their chi/spiritual energy which makes them even contenders. Using sliding ABC logic, which DBZ is known for, still doesn't really help their case when later in the Buu sagas, in the physical sense, they don't display anything beyond Superman.
....Yeah, Carver, people in comics have experienced worse than that. lol
Superman's prevented Jericho trying to take his body and Thor was flat out immune to the Space Phantom's attempt way back in Avengers #2, which had been referenced and re-referenced through out the years. To say nothing of Mjolnir's ability to migrate/dispel souls...
You can't always say everything is KI.
Frieza created the shockwaves while punching Goku. He punched... shockwaves from his punch were leveling the planet. He punched again... same thing happened. There was no KI involved. When a DBZ character powers up and reach that fail safe limit... KI has nothing to do with the destruction involved... its there physical power that is doing it. You would have an argument if you actually see KI emitting from them destroying the surrounding but when you have 2 people fighting... throwing their fist and causing destruction... that explains itself. The planet shaking happened during Goku and Cell fight when they were going all out. I never said that Superman couldn't destroy mountains but its pretty much rare or close to impossible to find a character causing anything close to the amount of collateral damage a dbz fighter has shown in a fist fight. I wish you were debating during the time they made the Frieza vs Thanos thread... I posted all of these feats there.
You have an argument there with Jericho... but Ogun can slow them down with his attempt long enough for the team to attack and again... you have Blink sitting on the side lines teleporting things in their bodies.
Ill talk to you all tomorrow.
Q99
Originally posted by marwash22
Ghost Rider is mid-Meta?
And Blue Beetle? Wonder Girl? Ms. Marvel?
There's been a lot of upgrades since the chart was made (though... I can't think of when GR would be that low even if it was using an old one...).
keiththegreat
Superman by himself has fought more impressive teams than these.
-Pr-
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Action Comics #763 page 22.
I'll look when i get the chance.
--
Also, guys, no more DBZ stuff please.
kgkg
Scenario One Superman and Thor win.
Scenario Two way too many things to factor in... But I already see few of the members giving them problems. So they will probably lose Scenario Two.
Black bolt z
Originally posted by shokosugi
Thor is not needed. Superman ends the fight in less than 3 sec. Via blitz facepalm
They stomp in 1 but lose in 2.
Philosophía
While Thor struggles with Wolverine, Superman solos the rest of the tiers, then comes back and throws Wolverine in the sun.
Omega Vision
God damn it Carv...
Also I probably should have mentioned this earlier, but bfr is off.
leonidas
scenario 2 has too many variables. they may or may not be able to win--they may actually get wrecked if everyone in scenario 2 works together. but if not they could probably pull it off. team is too big to really make a single call on it. it could play out a 1000 ways.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by leonidas
scenario 2 has too many variables. they may or may not be able to win--they may actually get wrecked if everyone in scenario 2 works together. but if not they could probably pull it off. team is too big to really make a single call on it. it could play out a 1000 ways.
It's why I think it's a good thread idea, you can make a decent argument either way.
I personally think that in a comic the duo would get beaten...eventually after taking down the fodder (because that's how all big one-or-two-guys-against-an-army fights go in comics) but in a forum fight I see their raw power being too much for most of the metas, and the ones that can stand up to them in any real capacity will be outmatched when it comes down to the line.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by Sin I AM
except the gr's
I don't see the Penance Stare doing much to a guy like Superman.
Can't speak for Thor.
Hyperion Prime
Originally posted by Mindset
Blade is black, though.
He has soul, and he's superbad.

Q99
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Scenario One: Just Low Meta Tier
Scenario Two: Low+Mid
Thor and Superman are bloodlusted and using powers to full capacity.
Low:
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett), Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, K', Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Machine Man, Man-Bat, Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Molly Hayes, Multiple Man, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Ryu Hayabusa, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Venom, Vermin, Victor Mancha, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar
Let see, Low-Metas who actually matter: Ambrose Chase, Black Canary, Kid Devil (due to magic)... wait, what the heck is *Firehawk* doing there? She matters plenty, she's no Low Meta. Omega Red. Molly Hayes (only class 100 person here

).
Hm, Klaw's in there too... ? Canary, yell at Klaw, pump him up...
Ok, still not enough, but there are some people in there who are in no way Low Meta.
TheLordofMurder
Thor and Supes crush them in both senario's...
Both stay in the air, Thor whips up a massive storm and continuously rains lighting down on the teams (most here wouldnt be able to stand up to the winds alone), and Supes goes on a speedblitzing rampage one-shotting most of them with either heat vision or his fists...
As a result, all except a select few (Ghost Rider, Cloak, Klaw, and maybe Omega Red) are killed within the 1st 30 seconds of the fight; Thor and Supes then combine to destroy the survivors in short order after the initial mass killings....
A bloodlusted Thor and Supes are too much for these guys; they'd never get a chance to get organized enough to beat these two...
Thor and Supes 10/10...
TheLordofMurder
Also, since Supes and Thor are bloodlusted, does this mean Thor is in Warriors Madness!?
If so, this goes from Thor and Supes winning 10/10 into pure spite; 99% of the low and mid meta's are going to be one shotted by either Thor or Supes...
Zack Fair
Superman flies out of orbit. From there he heatvisions the shit out of everyone. While Thor does one of his mighty hurricane speeches.
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