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So, no flight here for the man of steel. City setting fight no pedestrians.

Kurse, generally if this devolves into a brawl.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Kurse, generally if this devolves into a brawl.

Think Superman's speed can present a problem ?

Originally posted by Don Corleone
Think Superman's speed can present a problem ?

Yeah, but unless something out of the ordinary occurs, I don't think he'll turn into untouchable counter vibrating lightspeed blitzing forum mode Superman.

Kuurse

Superman, stronger and faster and more skilled.

Kurse 6/10. And no, kal isn't going to be a blur but he isn't going to stand there and trade punches. He's blitzed enough people to do that and he's not stupid. This myth of superman acting like a retard is as unfounded as thor's lightspeed reflexes.

Kurse, 10/10. Just beyond Superman.

Kurse 10/10

Originally posted by abhilegend
as unfounded as thor's lightspeed reflexes.



hmmmmmm, does this mean that mjolnir has a mind of its own when thor is flying or swinging it at lightspeed, its an enchanted hammer not a supercomputer.

^And surfer has thousands of times FTL reflexes because he has gone to that speed and his board too. Straight line travel does not equalize reflexes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
^And surfer has thousands of times FTL reflexes because he has gone to that speed and his board too. Straight line travel does not equalize reflexes.

he doesnt swing mjolnir in a straight line so......

Superman, after a long fight and a lot of dodging.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Kurse 6/10. And no, kal isn't going to be a blur but he isn't going to stand there and trade punches. He's blitzed enough people to do that and he's not stupid. This myth of superman acting like a retard is as unfounded as thor's lightspeed reflexes.

There's more than enough examples out there of Superman simply using his speed to avoid getting hit. Even the Byrne era had him taking on laser shooting cyborgs, and Supes thinking to himself that he'd better simply avoid all the shots, instead of risking testing his invulnerability against them.

And of course, there's his fight with Mongul in Ending Battle.

Kurse is 4 times stronger than Thor he is a very powerful brute he will dominate superman

was kurse ever beaten sans his weakness? been ages since i read that arc and can't remember if he was ever ko'd.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
hmmmmmm, does this mean that mjolnir has a mind of its own when thor is flying or swinging it at lightspeed, its an enchanted hammer not a supercomputer. Excellent reasoning.

Originally posted by cdtm
Superman, after a long fight and a lot of dodging.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Excellent reasoning.

kurse

Superman. Stronger, faster, and more skilled.
Plus iron is Kurse weakness. There is plenty of iron around in the city.

Stronger lol... no. U also know superman would have no clue about that weakness

Bump

Superman 5-6/10, speed wins, and in a City there will be a lot of collateral damage which might...

Superman would turn this into a brawl and get wrecked badly

Originally posted by Don Corleone
So, no flight here for the man of steel. City setting fight no pedestrians.

Superman wins
He has the speed (which wins automatically) and bfr and iron options.

Originally posted by Mistress-Death
Superman would turn this into a brawl and get wrecked badly

I disagree. Superman would win in a brawl. I can argue he's stronger by feats and also being faster to hit more times than Kurse can hit him.

He's not stronger by striking feats, and it doesn't matter how many times he hits Kurse as he's immune to regular physical harm

Originally posted by abhilegend
Kurse 6/10. And no, kal isn't going to be a blur but he isn't going to stand there and trade punches. He's blitzed enough people to do that and he's not stupid. This myth of superman acting like a retard is as unfounded as thor's lightspeed reflexes.

too bad superman does act like a retard and thor does have ligthspeed reflex.

and Kurse 10/10 Superman doesn't have the raw strength or power to take him down.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
too bad superman does act like a retard and thor does have ligthspeed reflex.

and Kurse 10/10 Superman doesn't have the raw strength or power to take him down.
Superman won't act like a retard for the most part in a forum fight. He fights at his best as shown before. Lightspeed reflex is no good when you don't use it in comics (Thor against Kurse) and when the opponent is moving around randomly at super speed. Try hitting a 5 mph fly buzzing around vs. a 85mph straight fastball. The straight fastball would be much easier to hit even though it is more than 16 times faster.

Fact1: Superman is a lot faster and would hit Kurse more than 10 times than Kurse hits him once.

Fact2: Superman can easily bfr him to space like he did Lobo.

Fact3: Iron is his weakness and either Superman knows this (general knowledge rule or since Superman knows about Norse Mythology) or will find out by simply knocking him through some iron things in the city.

Fact4: Superman using his top strength in comics can indeed end Kurse quickly.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Stronger lol... no. U also know superman would have no clue about that weakness General Knowledge. Superman knows Norse Mythology as well, including info on the Dark elves. Also, Superman could figure it out once he knocks him into something made of iron.

Superman at his best is stronger.

Originally posted by Mistress-Death
He's not stronger by striking feats, and it doesn't matter how many times he hits Kurse as he's immune to regular physical harm

No physical being except Juggernaut is immune to regular physical harm. Superman is stronger by feats and thus could hurt Kurse.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman won't act like a retard for the most part in a forum fight. He fights at his best as shown before. Lightspeed reflex is no good when you don't use it in comics (Thor against Kurse) and when the opponent is moving around randomly at super speed. Try hitting a 5 mph fly buzzing around vs. a 85mph straight fastball. The straight fastball would be much easier to hit even though it is more than 16 times faster.

Fact1: Superman is a lot faster and would hit Kurse more than 10 times than Kurse hits him once.

Fact2: Superman can easily bfr him to space like he did Lobo.

Fact3: Iron is his weakness and either Superman knows this (general knowledge rule or since Superman knows about Norse Mythology) or will find out by simply knocking him through some iron things in the city.

Fact4: Superman using his top strength in comics can indeed end Kurse quickly.

General Knowledge. Superman knows Norse Mythology as well, including info on the Dark elves. Also, Superman could figure it out once he knocks him into something made of iron.

Superman at his best is stronger.



No physical being except Juggernaut is immune to regular physical harm. Superman is stronger by feats and thus could hurt Kurse.

yes he will, its in his character to act like a retard.

1. so? its like you punching a stone wall 100 times... it wont do shit
2. show me kurse being bfred physically..what? none? awwwww.... thats two of your arguments down
3. general knowledge would be what the general population knows, and the general population knows shit = 3 of your arguments = shit
4. nope, kurse is immune to physical harm = 4 of your arguments = shit

it must suck being you where all you post = lies / crap

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
yes he will, its in his character to act like a retard.

1. so? its like you punching a stone wall 100 times... it wont do shit
2. show me kurse being bfred physically..what? none? awwwww.... thats two of your arguments down
3. general knowledge would be what the general population knows, and the general population knows shit = 3 of your arguments = shit
4. nope, kurse is immune to physical harm = 4 of your arguments = shit

it must suck being you where all you post = lies / crap

It's not in Superman's character to act like a retard when he's fighting at his best. Remember the forum rules.

Superman using his full strength would ktfo of Kurse.
Kurse weighs less than a ton. Superman has easily enough strength to uppercut him into space.

Remember defeating one argument while allowing another to stand doesn't defeat my argument. I claimed general knowledge, Superman knows Norse Mythology, or Superman would find the weakness by knocking him into some iron by accident. Yet you only nitpicked the general knowledge argument.

Kurse is not immune to physical harm. He is only 4 times stronger than Thor which made him immune to Thor's attacks. That means any being stronger than Thor by 4 times or more can harm him. Superman at his best is stronger than Thor by far more than 4 times. Do you like apples?

How can you debate against a guy that say stuff like this? Superman being more than 4 Times stronger than Thor. WTF.

Originally posted by carver9
How can you debate against a guy that say stuff like this? Superman being more than 4 Times stronger than Thor. WTF.

Superman has quantifiable feats above 80 Earth weights of force. Thor is hard pressed to have a quantifiable feat above 1 Earth weight of force. What's so hard about that?

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman has quantifiable feats above 80 Earth weights of force. Thor is hard pressed to have a quantifiable feat above 1 Earth weight of force. What's so hard about that?

Stop responding to my post.

LoL no flight is a deathwish for Clark

Can h1 just get banned already?

Supes speedblitzes Kurse raining a gazillion fists of justice on him.. only to find it ineffectual and that Kurse has grabbed him.
Kal: "By Rao, I can`t break your hold! What is thi..
Kurse: "Dieee!" *Headbutts superman repeatedly* SNAP! CRACKLE! KRYPTO-POP! CRUNCH!
not a pretty sight...

Originally posted by iceman24567
LoL no flight is a deathwish for Clark

This

Originally posted by carver9
How can you debate against a guy that say stuff like this? Superman being more than 4 Times stronger than Thor. WTF.

thats because I AM DE WAY DA TRUTH N DA LIGHT! lol

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
too bad superman does act like a retard and thor does have ligthspeed reflex.

and Kurse 10/10 Superman doesn't have the raw strength or power to take him down.
I must've been high to post that. Kurse wins this but no, thor doesn't have lightspeed reflexes.

Originally posted by carver9
How can you debate against a guy that say stuff like this? Superman being more than 4 Times stronger than Thor. WTF.

Out of curiosity, have you actually read ANY of your Hulk posts over the last six months?

I now have conclusive proof that Thor is far far far stronger than Superman.

Again, let us take the midgard sperpent feat wherein Thor pulls it from its death grip on earth. Some posters claim that only the head of the Serpent is real and the body is "etherial" and imaterial, hence only the head would count. and so, I now present to you all my "proof"

average anaconda - 6m long and 150kg
largest recorded anaconda - 8m long and 227kg
largest discovered snake that lived - 13m long and 1100kg

now if we take a look, as the snake grows longer, its weight increases dramatically

6m vs 8m - about 40% increase in length
150kg vs 227 kg - about 51% increase in weight
8m vs 13m - about 50% increase in length
227kg vs 1100kg - about 380% increase in weight

now to be conservative, let us average the potential increase in weight - (50+380)/2 = 215%

now let us estimate the weight of the serpents head
we see that it was able to coil its body around the earth twice, hence we can assume that its length is at least 80,000km or twice the circumference of the earth

now, on average if a snake increases in length by 50%, we then determine n where -> original length=6m x 1.5^n = 80,000km (1000m/km)
n = 40.46

we then determine the weight of the midgard serpent with base weight = 150kg x( 1+215/100)^40.46 = 2.176E22kg

now on average the length of the head of an anaconda is 25cm or 4.16% of its total length

to get weight of head = 4.16/100*2.175E22 = 9.0537E20kg

now for the acceleration applied by Thor on the head of the serpent

looking at the scan (go look for it yourself in the respect threads, dont be lazy now) thor pulled the serpent away from the earth in one panel which we will assume to have taken 1second. now, judging from the scan, he pulled the head by around 10x the distance of the earth from the moon where the distance of the earth from the moon = 381,000,000m. now we compute for acceleration

V0 = 0
Vf = d/t = 381,000,000/1s = 381,000,000m/s
a = (vf-v0)/t = (381,000,000-0)/1s = 381,000,000m/s2

now we compute for the force that Thor was able to generate
f=ma = 9.0537E20 kg x 381,000,000m/s2 = 3.449E29N

3.449E29N x 1Ton/8896.44N = 3.877E25Tons

Now weight of earth = 6.58E21Tons

3.877E25 tons x 1 earth weight/6.58E21 tons

Total force exerted by Thor = 5892.67 earth weights

Now since h1 says that superman can exert 80 earths weigths, this means that thor is 5892.67/80 = 73.65 times stronger than Superman

and since Kurse = 4x stronger than Thor

Kurse = 294 times stronger than Superman

Therefore

Kurse wins

Looks legit to me.

lmao

That is.. very insightful gogogadgetgo. I would say Kurse is 293,5 times stronger but close enough.

Wow, so now there's conclusive proof that Thor is faraaaar above Superman, what will the Superman apologists do now?

Originally posted by deathlife
Wow, so now there's conclusive proof that Thor is faraaaar above Superman, what will the Superman apologists do now? Stick around new guy you seem pretty cool.

Originally posted by deathlife
Wow, so now there's conclusive proof that Thor is faraaaar above Superman, what will the Superman apologists do now?
Lulz, you think that he's serious?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lulz, you think that he's serious? Lulz, yes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lulz, yes.
Sorry quan lulz doesn't suit you. Better luck next time chief.

Originally posted by h1a8

Superman using his full strength would ktfo of Kurse.
Kurse weighs less than a ton. Superman has easily enough strength to uppercut him into space.
You are forgetting one significant detail. Super powered beings like Superman, Thor, Captain Marvel etc have what is referred to "super inertia". Without out it someone with the strength of Spiderman or Captain America (assuming the punch were to land) could theoretically punch someone like Superman (who only weighs 220lbs, but is exponentially stronger) through a wall. It's their super inertia that prevents this.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sorry quan lulz doesn't suit you. Better luck next time chief. Yes, lulz it does. Just focus on recovery leave this to me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, lulz it does. Just focus on recovery leave this to me.
I told you lulz works only with me. Lulz.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I told you lulz works only with me. Lulz. I disagree like I do with pretty much everything you say, lulz.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree like I do with pretty much everything you say, lulz.
Who cares what you say?yawning

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo

now for the acceleration applied by Thor on the head of the serpent

...he pulled the head by around 10x the distance of the earth from the moon where the distance of the earth from the moon = 381,000,000m. now we compute for acceleration




Your concept is wrong.

First, Thor's arm's are less than 2m and couldn't pull the Serpent a distance greater than 4 meters. Thus the boat supplied the distance and hence acceleration of the Serpent away from the planet.

There are other problems as well but why list them when the one stated above destroys your post completely. I'm sorry you did all that work for nothing.

Originally posted by h1a8
Your concept is wrong.

First, Thor's arm's are less than 2m and couldn't pull the Serpent a distance greater than 4 meters. Thus the boat supplied the distance and hence acceleration of the Serpent away from the planet.

There are other problems as well but why list them when the one stated above destroys your post completely. I'm sorry you did all that work for nothing.

lol! once again, another stupid post from h1 lol!

i now have conclusive proof that h1 is a stoooopid moron! lol!

ever tried suddenly pulling one end of a jump rope? what happens? yeah, the other end suddenly goes flying towards you! lol

frankly, this is what i was waiting for, you exposing your biased to the extent of claiming something sooooo stupid!

lol!

I just cant believe how freaking moronically stupid you are! damn!

lol!

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who cares what you say?yawning Again, you do ya fanboy.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
lol! once again, another stupid post from h1 lol!

i now have conclusive proof that h1 is a stoooopid moron! lol!

ever tried suddenly pulling one end of a jump rope? what happens? yeah, the other end suddenly goes flying towards you! lol

frankly, this is what i was waiting for, you exposing your biased to the extent of claiming something sooooo stupid!

lol!

I just cant believe how freaking moronically stupid you are! damn!

lol!


But that's not what was shown in the scan and thus your scenario is wrong. The snake was almost straight when it clear the Earth and thus it wasn't a yank but a pull. In the first picture Thor is very close to the Earth pulling on the Serpent's head while the Serpent is still completely wrapped around the Earth. But in the next picture Thor is far enough away from the Earth to have the Serpent barely clear the Earth by it's own length (lol at your greater than the distance of the Earth to moon when the Serpent's length is much less).

Lastly (although irrelevant due to the above reasoning), If you yank a rope toward you then the FRONT end will go past you in a CURL (if it doesn't hit you first) before the back end clears a certain distance.

Just because you are mistaken or don't understand something doesn't mean I'm stupid.

P.S. I know you did a lot of work on your calculations and research and thus it makes since to salvage it. It is painful to lose hard work (especially for the prideful). But don't let the pain or pride of losing your hard work prevent you from being humble and seeing the truth. Nor let it keep you from continuing to try me. You never know, you might win a concession from me.

Kurse wins, physically Superman aint hurting him.

lol at your greater than the distance of the Earth to moon when the Serpent's length is much less

i guess you never heard of the term "perspective"...you know, its used in art and stuff. i pity you so for not knowing such simple basic in art and comic representation.

clearly you're trying to demean the feat coz with the math, it shows that Thor is far stronger than superman.

Originally posted by h1a8


Lastly (although irrelevant due to the above reasoning), If you yank a rope toward you then the FRONT end will go past you in a CURL (if it doesn't hit you first) before the back end clears a certain distance.



and what happens when you yank a very very long rope? hmmmm.... lol at your failed reasoning

lastly, your claim of supermnan's 80 earth weight crap is pull shit
1. the earth wasn't moving coz there wasnt any speed lines or anything.
2. did it change location from one panel to anther? hmmm... nope, hence superman wasn't actually pulling but just trying to keep it on the same position. so a=0 then f=0..superman wasn't pulling anything

h1 is so full of crap.

ps. if you can't recognize something that's meant to mock you, then you truly are an idiotic moron.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
i guess you never heard of the term "perspective"...you know, its used in art and stuff. i pity you so for not knowing such simple basic in art and comic representation.

h1 is so full of crap.

ps. if you can't recognize something that's meant to mock you, then you truly are an idiotic moron. Save your breath, reasoning with H1 is like trying to explain Hitler to a three year old.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Save your breath, reasoning with H1 is like trying to explain Hitler to a three year old.

Actually I could probably explain hitler to my three year old nieces and nephews easier than why hia8's physics are full of holes.


I remember one of my nieces told me before to stop drinking beer cause beer is poison if if you drink it you will die and she didn't want me to die.

She also understood to stay away from bad people. Which at that time was pretty much anyone that wasn't family or that we didn't bring to the house.

:-).

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
i guess you never heard of the term "perspective"...you know, its used in art and stuff. i pity you so for not knowing such simple basic in art and comic representation. perspective has nothing to do with the truth. The serpent's tail was still slightly wrapped behind the Earth in the second panel.

Another problems is that the line is still straight as in still pulling on the Serpent when it clears the Earth. Thus it wasn't a yank. Also the first panel shows Thor close to Earth and the second shows him far away enough distance to clear the Serpent. This means the boat moved.
The Earth was moving. Starbreaker was sending the planet into the Sun. And it was getting close and close to the Sun as shown in the panel. Superman not only overpowered Starbreaker's force but had extra power to bring the Earth back in moments.
I did recognized that from day one. But the danger is that people will believe you without incident that Superman isn't much stronger than Thor and I can't let that happen without good reason.

Originally posted by h1a8

I did recognized that from day one. But the danger is that people will believe you without incident that Superman isn't much stronger than Thor and I can't let that happen without good reason.

He's isn't much stronger than Thor.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He's isn't much stronger than Thor.

based off quantifiable feats he is.

that rationale is getting outdated now too; if superman and thor both have say five unquantifiable feats, but then superman lifts a 65' buick with a known weight, he's stronger?

with all the holding back and amping yadda yadda yadda, it's just better to say they're peers

Originally posted by h1a8
based off quantifiable feats he is.

No, he isn't.