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Who would be more dangerous with CIS and CIP off?

Thor
Superman
Kyle
Surfer
Nova Prime

Please rank them.

Surfer
Thor
Superman
Kyle
Nova Prime

Originally posted by JakeTheBank


Genis
Surfer
Thor
Superman
Kyle
Nova Prime

Fixed.

Genis is pretty beastly, yes.

Originally posted by carver9
Who would be more dangerous with CIS and CIP off?

Thor
Superman
Kyle
Surfer
Nova Prime

Please rank them.

Surfer
Superman
Thor

I can't rank Kyle or Nova Prime in the list since I don't know all the top stuff they have done.

Surfer
Superman
Thor
Kyle
Nova Prime

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Surfer
Superman
Thor
Kyle
Nova Prime

"Dangerous"? IIRC, Superman once described Batman as the "most dangerous" man on Earth. So I'm not necessarily equating "dangerous" with "powerful." Accordingly...

Thor, Surfer, Superman.
I put Thor first because he's the one true warrior, and so may be most inclined to take life. Superman is last because he'd be least inclined to take a life (doesn't he have a pledge or something against killing? If so, then for all Surfer's pacifism, I think if push came to shove, SS would be quicker to kill an opponent than Superman).

The others I'm not that familiar with.

Originally posted by Mindship
"Dangerous"? IIRC, Superman once described Batman as the "most dangerous" man on Earth. So I'm not necessarily equating "dangerous" with "powerful." Accordingly...

Thor, Surfer, Superman.
I put Thor first because he's the one true warrior, and so may be most inclined to take life. Superman is last because he'd be least inclined to take a life (doesn't he have a pledge or something against killing? If so, then for all Surfer's pacifism, I think if push came to shove, SS would be quicker to kill an opponent than Superman).

The others I'm not that familiar with.

CIS and CIP is off

Thor. Omnidirectional, world-sized magical storm, while channeling all attacks on him through Mjolnir, whether or not they hit the hammer directly. I'm not sure anyone on the list would seriously harm him, let alone beat him.

Originally posted by Digi
Thor. Omnidirectional, world-sized magical storm, while channeling all attacks on him through Mjolnir, whether or not they hit the hammer directly. I'm not sure anyone on the list would seriously harm him, let alone beat him.

I agree.

Thor since he will remember finally that he is a god with powers and not a street thug brawler

Originally posted by h1a8
CIS and CIP is off I don't see this making a difference, since this doesn't mean (as I interpret it) that they become the same, homogenized character. This isn't "most dangerous powerset" (in which case I could see Surfer as number one).

Originally posted by Nihilst
Thor since he will remember finally that he is a god with powers and not a street thug brawler

Originally posted by TheHulk


whats wrong? CIS makes Thor brawl with opponents he should destroy with easy due to his powers, CIS off he finally remember he got other powers and that mjolnir works not only as a sledgehammer

Originally posted by Nihilst
whats wrong? CIS makes Thor brawl with opponents he should destroy with easy due to his powers, CIS off he finally remember he got other powers and that mjolnir works not only as a sledgehammer



This is so true; The Surfer commonly jobs in a similar fashion...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder


This is so true; The Surfer commonly jobs in a similar fashion...

yeah surfer is another case of very powerful and versatile guy who choose to just brawl it out with 1 dimensional bricks , i blame it on the writers that have to downplay a certain character because they dont want to find a way to mix all those powers with a good story/fight

It's not as easy as it sounds to always give them good fights that allow them to showcase their powers. Often times they're given a rough plot outline, characters they're required to use, and set loose. There's only so many permutations before you'd have to write Surfer down a notch for the story to make sense.

Which is part of why it's useless in the long run to read comics for power scales.

Originally posted by Mindship
"Dangerous"? IIRC, Superman once described Batman as the "most dangerous" man on Earth. So I'm not necessarily equating "dangerous" with "powerful." Accordingly...


The others I'm not that familiar with.

I believe the lantern's ring don't allow for lethal force.

Nova has no qualms about killing if it needs to be done.

Originally posted by Mindship
"Dangerous"? IIRC, Superman once described Batman as the "most dangerous" man on Earth. So I'm not necessarily equating "dangerous" with "powerful." Accordingly...

Thor, Surfer, Superman.
I put Thor first because he's the one true warrior, and so may be most inclined to take life. Superman is last because he'd be least inclined to take a life (doesn't he have a pledge or something against killing? If so, then for all Surfer's pacifism, I think if push came to shove, SS would be quicker to kill an opponent than Superman).

The others I'm not that familiar with. Surfer just turned someone into atoms this week... while being a pacifist at the same time

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Surfer just turned someone into atoms this week... while being a pacifist at the same time

I also recall scans of:

1.) Surfer evolving a planet to death

and

2.) manipulating all life on a planet on an atomic level to clear a virus/illness.

There was also an offhand comment somewhere about the possibility of even weak heralds causing suns to go nova if they were careless.

Thus, surfer could wipe out life on at least a planetary scale in a couple of minutes.

Rider would unleash massive unchecked gravity manipulation

Worldmind -using a portion of Richard's power- as a matter of practically expediency, suspends the gravitational forces between two planetary bodies that are in dangerously close proximity to one another.

Am I to understand that you've defied basic physics?

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325868273.jpg

Just how close was it?

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325868644.jpg

Warps the Gravity of a Neutron star into a wormhole

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325883679.jpg

Hits the surface of the Neutron star with such velocity that he triggers a star quake/gravity quake. For science geeks.



In laymans terms It's;

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325883925.jpg

Massive energy absorption and redistribution...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325884190.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325884102.jpg

Nigh impenetrable shields...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1323878223754.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1323878240554.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1323878257058.jpg

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1323878349165.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1323878378109.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1323878387839.jpg

People that have had Nova's power in the past...

The Sphinx. Upon stealing a large amount of power from the Worldmind, starts testing out his new abilities, shows the centurion ability to siphon and direct energy ala Nova, Powerhouse and Supernova.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325887073.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325887111.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325887218.jpg

As we know, from that point on heralds are fodder to him.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325897129.jpg

Little known fact, is that while the Sphinx was drawing energy from the nova force, there was another guy who was also bathing in its energies at the same time...

Prime Thoran , the first true Nova Prime. More on him later...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325886888.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325886980.jpg

Supernova...

You all know about him. But just in case...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325888980.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325889140.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325889356.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325889455.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325889654.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325889734.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325889883.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325890048.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325890218.jpg

Nova Prime unleashed would definitely be a force to be reckoned with.

Originally posted by dmills
People that have had Nova's power in the past...

The Sphinx. Upon stealing a large amount of power from the Worldmind, starts testing out his new abilities, shows the centurion ability to siphon and direct energy ala Nova, Powerhouse and Supernova.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325887073.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325887111.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325887218.jpg

As we know, from that point on heralds are fodder to him.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325897129.jpg

And the Ka Stone...

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
And the Ka Stone...