Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Yes. You're comparing two things that in no way prove superiourity of Wolverine even if 100% true. Never said im trying to prove his superiority, never even argued he has a superior will power. Feel free to quote me.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
"Wolverine's will allows him to not kill people.
Cap's chooses not to kill people."
So? How does this prove Wolverine is more impressive in this aspect. If we follow the logic supplied here without question, then it's just a one sided affair of will.
But it is comparable, and that's what you don't want to hear. No its not. Again, im not arguig that this feat proves Wolverine has superior will. Im arguing because you dont see the difference.
Cap chooses not to kill people. So does Spider-man. So does Superman etc etc etc Its a matter of choice. No matter whom they fight or what happens it ALWAYS depends on their free will. With Logan its not the case. When he goes berserk he not only has to make a choice but fight the berserker state. That's something not Cap, nor Spider-man, nor Superman have to deal with. So to say that its equelly impressive for all of them is wrong.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
How is that nitpicking? It's not like I said "Wolverine killed this one guy one time". I said Wolverine killed many people, lots of times. Which is true... very true. That's not nitpicking at all. Nitpicking would be saying Wolverine doesn't kill his friends...
If you're going to use "animal" so literally, then don't be surprised for people to question that line of logic. Only people who choose to be (forgive me for using the term) smartasses instead of contributing to the actual debate. I said Wolverine is like an animal who's programmed to kill, so you give me examples of Cezar Millan trining puppies to prove a point?
The only possible way that could work is if there were animal-like mutants in RL that were brainwashed by mad scientists/government into killing people.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
What boyscouts? Batman? Superman? Because those two are pretty huge will powerhouses...
Making a choice isn't seperate from a feat of will. You don't think it takes will to resist killing mass murderers when you have the chance? When every fiber of your being tells you to kill someone, and you stand up to that and say no, then that's just a simple choice? And you still only have to make a choice. Again, you're comparing apples to oranges. Where apples are "I wanna kill you so bad but you're not worth it and im not a murder like you" and oranges are "Killing mode activated. Programmed to destroy everything on sight. Killkillkillkillkill." Still dont see how its equelly impressive.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
You know what I'd love to see? Wolverine breaking control of the Carnage symbiote, like Cap did. Wolverine fighting a Skyfather level being with the Cosmic Cube by himself in a neverending cycle where the timeline plays over again and again until Cap's raw determination causes the Skyfather level being to cease and give up his power. Funny you brought that up, thought about posting that scan here once Ive read the issue. Wolverine actually has broken free from a symbiote controle. And the said symbiote wasnt trying to controle 5 thousand people simultaneously, just Logan. He has sh!tload of other feats. But ill let somebody else start a featwar if they feel like it. Because as I said, I never argued that Wolerine has superior will power. Was just elaborating on Nietzschean's post.
