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I was thinking that since Thor has been one-shot by his own lightning several times, who could he potentially one-shot with it?

1. Spiderman

2. Captain America

3. Beast

4. Classic Colossus

5. The Thing

6. Professor Hulk

7. Classic Hercules

8. Savage Hulk

9. Beta Ray Bill

10. World War Hulk

11. Silver Surfer

12. Sentry (WWH Version)

13. Worldbreaker Hulk

(He doesn't have to kill these guys, just KO them)

If its like the lighting agains CK then all but WBH

Originally posted by keiththegreat
I was thinking that since Thor has been one-shot by his own lightning several times, who could he potentially one-shot with it?

1. Spiderman

2. Captain America

3. Beast

4. Classic Colossus

5. The Thing

6. Professor Hulk

7. Classic Hercules

8. Savage Hulk

9. Beta Ray Bill

10. World War Hulk

11. Silver Surfer

12. Sentry (WWH Version)

13. Worldbreaker Hulk

(He doesn't have to kill these guys, just KO them)
He could probably one-shot kill 1-5. 7 & 8 would also be KO'd if Thor was really trying to put them down. Savage Hulk would need to be really enraged to still be conscious, the rest of the Hulks, Surfer and Sentry can take it.

Originally posted by keiththegreat
I was thinking that since Thor has been one-shot by his own lightning several times, who could he potentially one-shot with it?

1. Spiderman

2. Captain America

3. Beast

4. Classic Colossus

5. The Thing

6. Professor Hulk

7. Classic Hercules

8. Savage Hulk

9. Beta Ray Bill

10. World War Hulk

11. Silver Surfer

12. Sentry (WWH Version)

13. Worldbreaker Hulk

(He doesn't have to kill these guys, just KO them)


be more specific...u have an instance in particularz?

His best? If so he can clear

Originally posted by Damborgson
His best? If so he can clear

WBH might be iffy, but otherwise I agree. Especially considering he can one-shot KO himself.

Originally posted by Damborgson
His best? If so he can clear
He already failed against Sentry, Nul and Merged Hulk when out for the kill.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
He already failed against Sentry, Nul and Merged Hulk when out for the kill.

Different Sentry. The OP said WWH Sentry.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
He already failed against Sentry, Nul and Merged Hulk when out for the kill.

Yet that wasn't his best. Pretty obvious it wasn't when he's displayed power that makes those instances look like nothing. Besides Sentry's back got blown open by the lightning. He would have died if it wasn't for the void, Thor just got rid of Nul and it still flash KO'd him, and Thor was weaker against Merged Hulk.

And he's hurt/damaged/affected more powerful beings than anyone on that list before anyways.

later by the way. I'm just gonna chill for a while. Seeing Thor get harassed like this isn't doing me good.

Originally posted by Damborgson
His best? If so he can clear


100% agree

Originally posted by Damborgson
Yet that wasn't his best. Pretty obvious it wasn't when he's displayed power that makes those instances look like nothing. Besides Sentry's back got blown open by the lightning. He would have died if it wasn't for the void, Thor just got rid of Nul and it still flash KO'd him, and Thor was weaker against Merged Hulk.

And he's hurt/damaged/affected more powerful beings than anyone on that list before anyways.
The lightning damaged Sentry but it was nowhere close to killing him lol, and Sentry can't die. Thor hit Nul with everything and he stunned Hulk at best, it also wasn't a one-shot. Nul wasn't any tougher than WWH who's also on the list.
Thor regained his powers against Merged Hulk he wasn't weakened, this was the same Thor who turned the World Engine. He failed to KO Hulk with lightning despite being bloodlusted.

Hurt/damage/affecting more powerful beings than their peers doesn't really mean anything, Thor can affect Odin if he clubbed him in the face, it doesn't mean he can one-shot Surfer or Hulk.

Originally posted by Damborgson
His best? If so he can clear

What's his best lightning feats?
And are we considering the other characters at their best too?
I'm thinking 6 on down is definitely not going to be one shot. IMO Colossus is iffy.

If this Thor purist lighting strike, even classic mangog had run for his life, Thor will smoke this list

6 down is ok. I can remember 5 instances of Hulk withstanding Thors lightning.

colossus is immune to lightning. weather magic or not, because of his body composition it gets directly sent to the ground

stops at 4

screw it. I love this place. Why would I stay away from it?

Originally posted by The Sorrow
The lightning damaged Sentry but it was nowhere close to killing him lol, and Sentry can't die. Thor hit Nul with everything and he stunned Hulk at best, it also wasn't a one-shot. Nul wasn't any tougher than WWH who's also on the list.
Thor regained his powers against Merged Hulk he wasn't weakened, this was the same Thor who turned the World Engine. He failed to KO Hulk with lightning despite being bloodlusted.

Hurt/damage/affecting more powerful beings than their peers doesn't really mean anything, Thor can affect Odin if he clubbed him in the face, it doesn't mean he can one-shot Surfer or Hulk.

Lol yes it was. Understand that the more damage he recieved the more of the void came out. It happened when Ares cut him and it happened when Thor blew a whole in his back with lightning. Take the void out of the picture and he'd be dead. Sure he can. He did at the end of Siege 4 remember?

If he hit Nul with "everything" he'd be dead. It got him out of the way and it flash KO'd him. Which is what Thor wanted. "To be continued Banner."

You have no proof that Nul wasn't tougher than WWH other than him being amped multiple times somehow doesn't equal an amp. Protective spells don't actually help apparently. Neither do strength increases and uru hammers.

um yeah he was. Thor's power varied heavily during that time and an issue or so later it was confirmed Thor wasn't what he used to be.

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Avengers397_16b.jpg

so what? Being blood lusted doesn't mean he was using his best despite how it sounds. He produced greater bolts while having a cool ahead against Savage Hulk that did successfully Ko him.

True enough. I should have given examples instead. Thor was able to pause Chaos War Hercules who was no selling attacks from multiple skyfathers. And he managed to pause Chaos king with it also. To even affect Chaos King in the slightest way that it would cause him to pause his attack on Chaos War Hercule is an absolute icredible amount of power. Considering he previously ignored Galactus attacking him when he had better things to do

Originally posted by carver9
6 down is ok. I can remember 5 instances of Hulk withstanding Thors lightning.

Name 5.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Name 5.

1. http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%204/5.jpg

2. http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/fight%206/2.jpg

3. http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%2012/7.jpg

4. http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/6373/thorvshulkandthing7.jpg

5. Is when Hulk beat him in the face with his own hammer. Thor snuck attacked Hulk then with a lightning attack as well. WWH would probably tank it.

4/5 aint bad actually. Nul survived that lightning but he was taken out by it.

Originally posted by Damborgson
4/5 aint bad actually. Nul survived that lightning but he was taken out by it.

No he wasn't.

Originally posted by keiththegreat
I was thinking that since Thor has been one-shot by his own lightning several times, who could he potentially one-shot with it?

1. Spiderman

2. Captain America

3. Beast

4. Classic Colossus

5. The Thing

6. Professor Hulk

7. Classic Hercules

8. Savage Hulk

9. Beta Ray Bill

10. World War Hulk

11. Silver Surfer

12. Sentry (WWH Version)

13. Worldbreaker Hulk

(He doesn't have to kill these guys, just KO them) Should've used the Thor Headbutt. durthor

Originally posted by carver9
No he wasn't.

He was momentarily camatose and in space. Yeah your right he was fine.

Originally posted by Damborgson
He was momentarily camatose and in space. Yeah your right he was fine.

How was he camatosed when he guided himself back to Earth?

Originally posted by carver9
How was he camatosed when he guided himself back to Earth?



Because it was a flash ko? How did he guide himself when we saw him being pulled back to Earth and screaming as he fell?

Originally posted by Damborgson
Because it was a flash ko? How did he guide himself when we saw him being pulled back to Earth and screaming as he fell?

Huh? He was hit away from Earth, then he turned around and was headed back at Earth. He guided himself back.

Originally posted by carver9
Huh? He was hit away from Earth, then he turned around and was headed back at Earth. He guided himself back.
You really dont know how gravity works huh

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
You really dont know how gravity works huh

So gravity can hit someone in orbit pass planets and make them do a uturn and turn them back around to Earth. WTF? Like really, WTF?

No lightning is more powerful than the heart of a sun or inside a black hole. Surfer has survived both.

He stops at 8.

Originally posted by carver9
Huh? He was hit away from Earth, then he turned around and was headed back at Earth. He guided himself back.

Carver dont be intentionally dumb :/ you know very well what instance im talking about. We saw him kod. Then he beganto fall back toearth. Itsthepage after the scan you posted for Christs sake.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Carver dont be intentionally dumb :/ you know very well what instance im talking about. We saw him kod. Then he beganto fall back toearth. Itsthepage after the scan you posted for Christs sake.

Somebody help him. Thor hits him out of orbit, Hulk fly past the moon, turns around in space and is heading back to Earth. This happens before this scene...

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1622/thorvshulkandthing8.jpg

You didn't see all of the comics huh? The part where he flies past the moon and from appearance, past some planets, make a u-turn and head back to Earth.

Damborgson, let's make a deal. If I show you a scan of Hulk doing a complete u-turn in space after being hit by Thor, you have to concede this argument forever. That's too easy though, how about this...if I post this scan, you have to give me 500 Microsoft points for XBox live as well. What request would you like if I don't post the scan?

Carver.....you are suggesting he made a u turn and then momentarily stayed in place right where Earths gravity could catch him and take a hard fall back to Earth? That would suggest that he passed out even more wouldnt it? I assume your referring to the scan at the beginning of hulk vs dracula #1 correct?

Originally posted by carver9
Damborgson, let's make a deal. If I show you a scan of Hulk doing a complete u-turn in space after being hit by Thor, you have to concede this argument forever. That's too easy though, how about this...if I post this scan, you have to give me 500 Microsoft points for XBox live as well. What request would you like if I don't post the scan?

Its an inconsistency that doesnt line up with the main story line where we see him out. Its like during Siege where we see sentry all voided out and holding thor. Osborn makes him destroy asgard afterward. But when that same instance is retold in siege the initiative, we see thor getting punched instead by a very much non voided out sentry. Doesnt line up would you agree?

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
You really dont know how gravity works huh



Hulk is so strong he can swim in space!!!

If they have to sit there and take the attack and Thor can spend as much time amping and focusing his lightning attack as he wants. He could potentially one shot everyone.

Originally posted by Damborgson
screw it. I love this place. Why would I stay away from it?



Lol yes it was. Understand that the more damage he recieved the more of the void came out. It happened when Ares cut him and it happened when Thor blew a whole in his back with lightning. Take the void out of the picture and he'd be dead. Sure he can. He did at the end of Siege 4 remember?

If he hit Nul with "everything" he'd be dead. It got him out of the way and it flash KO'd him. Which is what Thor wanted. "To be continued Banner."

You have no proof that Nul wasn't tougher than WWH other than him being amped multiple times somehow doesn't equal an amp. Protective spells don't actually help apparently. Neither do strength increases and uru hammers.

um yeah he was. Thor's power varied heavily during that time and an issue or so later it was confirmed Thor wasn't what he used to be.

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Avengers397_16b.jpg

so what? Being blood lusted doesn't mean he was using his best despite how it sounds. He produced greater bolts while having a cool ahead against Savage Hulk that did successfully Ko him.

True enough. I should have given examples instead. Thor was able to pause Chaos War Hercules who was no selling attacks from multiple skyfathers. And he managed to pause Chaos king with it also. To even affect Chaos King in the slightest way that it would cause him to pause his attack on Chaos War Hercule is an absolute icredible amount of power. Considering he previously ignored Galactus attacking him when he had better things to do
Don't let Marvel's current disrespect of Thor sway your loyalty to the Odinson!

Sentry was slashed/cut open etc several times in Siege that was due to his Void persona. He's been attacked by people more powerful than anyone involved in Siege arc as normal Sentry and still been fine afterwards.

Thor almost killed himself trying to get Nul off the planet so contrary to your opinion, either he did give everything or Thor is quite weak. Let's be honest, your claiming Hulk was KO'd to save face for Thor, Nul was still gripping his hammer and started screaming from re-entry a second after being hit into orbit. Add to this, Thor said "to be continued Banner", he knew he couldn't take Hulk out and admitted so after attempting to kill him. All the evidence points to Nul being conscious.
WWH's feats are better than Nul's there's no getting around this fact. He took more damage, beat more impressive people and did it while holding back, Nul was completely enraged and bloodlusted.

That scan from the Avengers was after he fought Hulk in the arctic. Thor had lost his immortality but was given his powers back for the Hulk fight and was completely bloodlusted.

Hercules was hurt many times in Chaos War when he was a newb with his powers at the beginning. Giving "pause" to him really isn't that impressive considering it was a cheap shot and guys like Ares were hurting him. Thor was pretty much a bystander until God Herc weakened CK enough to bring him down to Earth. Not trying to discredit the feat because I thought Thor did well in Chaos War but he wasn't the only herald to effect Chaos King, IIRC Daiman and Surfer doing something similar. This falls under the same analogy I used in my previous post.

In direct confrontations Hulk has resisted his lightning several times and I haven't seen Thor convincingly one-shot anyone with lightning who is in the Hulk/Surfer/Sentry durability range.

Nul wasnt knocked out. there was an empty speach bubble because you cannot talk in space. There is no oxygen.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Its an inconsistency that doesnt line up with the main story line where we see him out. Its like during Siege where we see sentry all voided out and holding thor. Osborn makes him destroy asgard afterward. But when that same instance is retold in siege the initiative, we see thor getting punched instead by a very much non voided out sentry. Doesnt line up would you agree?

It shows him passing the moon and then makes a u-turn back to Earth. It's obvious what happened. Yes by the way, that is the scan I am talking about. It's not inconsistent because it shows what happened as soon as Nul was bfred in space...the evidence is there, you are just ignoring it.

Originally posted by carver9
It shows him passing the moon and then makes a u-turn back to Earth. It's obvious what happened. Yes by the way, that is the scan I am talking about. It's not inconsistent because it shows what happened as soon as Nul was bfred in space...the evidence is there, you are just ignoring it.

you don't know how gravity works clearly. the moon has gravitational pull as does the earth. never heard of sling shotting?

Originally posted by ctsketch
you don't know how gravity works clearly. the moon has gravitational pull as does the earth. never heard of sling shotting?

So him slinging "pass" the moon and then making a u-turn back to Earth is suppose to happen? Do you have scans of this happening in a comic without outside interference?

Originally posted by carver9
So him slinging "pass" the moon and then making a u-turn back to Earth is suppose to happen? Do you have scans of this happening in a comic without outside interference?

it could be ridiculous comic book physics but here is how things work in the real world

A.) The reason the moon orbits the earth instead of flying off on it's own is because its being effected by Earth's gravitational pull. the reason it does not slam into earth is it's momentum in space's relative vacuum. so even if hulk flies by the moon , since he was flying straight away from the earth the earth is still trying to pull him straight back albeit slowly

B.) When something passes by something with a strong pull (IE the moon even though it's 1/4th earth's gravity it still has some) it's course is altered by its gravitational field

http://egglescliffe.org.uk/physics/gravitation/slingshot/jupe.jpg

In short, with tweaking this to stupid comic physics, yes hulk can be KTFO and still come back to earth unless he's hit far enough.

Originally posted by ctsketch
it could be ridiculous comic book physics but here is how things work in the real world

A.) The reason the moon orbits the earth instead of flying off on it's own is because its being effected by Earth's gravitational pull. the reason it does not slam into earth is it's momentum in space's relative vacuum. so even if hulk flies by the moon , since he was flying straight away from the earth the earth is still trying to pull him straight back albeit slowly

B.) When something passes by something with a strong pull (IE the moon even though it's 1/4th earth's gravity it still has some) it's course is altered by its gravitational field

http://egglescliffe.org.uk/physics/gravitation/slingshot/jupe.jpg

In short, with tweaking this to stupid comic physics, yes hulk can be KTFO and still come back to earth unless he's hit far enough.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Don't let Marvel's current disrespect of Thor sway your loyalty to the Odinson!

Sentry was slashed/cut open etc several times in Siege that was due to his Void persona. He's been attacked by people more powerful than anyone involved in Siege arc as normal Sentry and still been fine afterwards.

Thor almost killed himself trying to get Nul off the planet so contrary to your opinion, either he did give everything or Thor is quite weak. Let's be honest, your claiming Hulk was KO'd to save face for Thor, Nul was still gripping his hammer and started screaming from re-entry a second after being hit into orbit. Add to this, Thor said "to be continued Banner", he knew he couldn't take Hulk out and admitted so after attempting to kill him. All the evidence points to Nul being conscious.
WWH's feats are better than Nul's there's no getting around this fact. He took more damage, beat more impressive people and did it while holding back, Nul was completely enraged and bloodlusted.

That scan from the Avengers was after he fought Hulk in the arctic. Thor had lost his immortality but was given his powers back for the Hulk fight and was completely bloodlusted.

Hercules was hurt many times in Chaos War when he was a newb with his powers at the beginning. Giving "pause" to him really isn't that impressive considering it was a cheap shot and guys like Ares were hurting him. Thor was pretty much a bystander until God Herc weakened CK enough to bring him down to Earth. Not trying to discredit the feat because I thought Thor did well in Chaos War but he wasn't the only herald to effect Chaos King, IIRC Daiman and Surfer doing something similar. This falls under the same analogy I used in my previous post.

In direct confrontations Hulk has resisted his lightning several times and I haven't seen Thor convincingly one-shot anyone with lightning who is in the Hulk/Surfer/Sentry durability range.

The guys high up who feel they have the right to treat him like dirt can **** themselves. With the situation as it is, I'm needed more than ever.

Being under the influence of the void doesn't weaken his durability. :/ In the main arc he was hurt by ares' adamantium axe and Thor's lighting. The more damage, the more of the void came out. Pretty straight forward on that part.

He had a cosmic gash in his stomach and had just gotten brutalized by his father and thrown into prison. Of course he was weak. It wasn't his best because he's displayed better. Whether he passed out or not is irrelevant in my opinion. It doesn't prove him being out.

There's nothing to save face for though. He beat an amped Hulk and Thing at the same time. While injured.

Do you know what lightning does to you? It causes your body to contract. And I think with the large bolt he hit him with it's more than understandable to believe thats what happened. Especially with Matt Fraction's writing style. More than once "..." or " " = Ko or seriously ****ed up. It happened with Galactus, Angrir, and Nul. But Nul is the exception too the rule because he's hulk right?

Dude....if Thor wants to take Hulk out he very well can. Just not by hammering him. When he gets hulk syndrome and fights on his level is the only time Hulk can win. And he always does so. Look what happened when he didn't. Hulk was ****ed up/flash Ko'd and in space.

Savage Hulk's in large part are superior to WWH's. Yet we all know WWH is >> savage. Why not with Nul? Because it makes WWH looks bad is the only reason and you know it. The only time Nul looked bad was at the hands of Bendis and despite what you think or desperately want to convince yourself to believe, adding more power to someone does not make them weaker. It's so ridiculous I can't believe you act like you'd honestly believe it.

He was still weaker. :/ It's like the difference between mortalk and immortal hercules. Thor was proven to be weaker and being bloodlusted doesn't change it. He still fought like an idiot down to hulk's level and one bolt of lightning from the god of thunder isn't enough to say he was going all out. He was going all out in a weaker physically body and that he did as well as he did is a better showing for him than it was for Hulk.

No he wasn't :/ He no sold skyfathers. Who shot him from multiple angles and he was in a frenzy. To even take notice of it when he powered through the skyfathers and kept fighting, but stopped when hit by Thor's lighting shows how strong it was. No attempts at downplay by your part will change that. :/

Because that was regular Ares right? Christ, that Ares took blasts from Galactus and kept going. He was more than likely in trans levels at that time.

Don't give me that. Being brought down to Earth wasn't a sign that he was weakened. Even if he was he was still an abstract so, so what? He was mopping the floor with Herc and Thor got him off Herc momentarily. Thor's lighting ripping through his chest was what did the damage. Not Hellstrom's fire at the feet of CK. Pretty obvious to me what was meant to hurt him. Surfer did nothing like that, if you know something I don't post a scan please.

Interesting logic. If Thor manages to hurt beings who dwarf the Hulk in power then that doesn't mean he can use those attacks to do the same to Hulk? He just KO'd the phoenix force. Does that mean he couldn't do the same to Hulk with the same strike?

He doesn't use this kind of power on peers. Doesn't mean he can't. he only way for Hulk to have a chance at Thor is for him to restrict himself heavily. Melee and a couple of bolts of lighting. You can't deny if he cuts loose he takes on and beats beings who are >> Hulk. No reason for him to not be able to take down Hulk when he can do it to his superiors. So if he hurts people who makes Hulk look like an insect with Lightning, that same lightning would devastate the Hulk. Seems like a fairly simple line of thinking to me.

Originally posted by carver9
It shows him passing the moon and then makes a u-turn back to Earth. It's obvious what happened. Yes by the way, that is the scan I am talking about. It's not inconsistent because it shows what happened as soon as Nul was bfred in space...the evidence is there, you are just ignoring it.

How do I ignore it when I just mentioned it? at least try and make sense. I already explained why it doesn't make sense. THAT would be you ignoring something. So he just sat there and chilled outside of Earth's gravity huh? Cool story bro.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Nul wasnt knocked out. there was an empty speach bubble because you cannot talk in space. There is no oxygen. yet he was fllowing on Asgardian energy that says "F you logic I can talk in space if I want to. Like Thor has many times."

What is Thor limited to here in terms of one shot?

Originally posted by Damborgson
The guys high up who feel they have the right to treat him like dirt can **** themselves. With the situation as it is, I'm needed more than ever.

Being under the influence of the void doesn't weaken his durability. :/ In the main arc he was hurt by ares' adamantium axe and Thor's lighting. The more damage, the more of the void came out. Pretty straight forward on that part.

He had a cosmic gash in his stomach and had just gotten brutalized by his father and thrown into prison. Of course he was weak. It wasn't his best because he's displayed better. Whether he passed out or not is irrelevant in my opinion. It doesn't prove him being out.

There's nothing to save face for though. He beat an amped Hulk and Thing at the same time. While injured.

Do you know what lightning does to you? It causes your body to contract. And I think with the large bolt he hit him with it's more than understandable to believe thats what happened. Especially with Matt Fraction's writing style. More than once "..." or " " = Ko or seriously ****ed up. It happened with Galactus, Angrir, and Nul. But Nul is the exception too the rule because he's hulk right?

Dude....if Thor wants to take Hulk out he very well can. Just not by hammering him. When he gets hulk syndrome and fights on his level is the only time Hulk can win. And he always does so. Look what happened when he didn't. Hulk was ****ed up/flash Ko'd and in space.

Savage Hulk's in large part are superior to WWH's. Yet we all know WWH is >> savage. Why not with Nul? Because it makes WWH looks bad is the only reason and you know it. The only time Nul looked bad was at the hands of Bendis and despite what you think or desperately want to convince yourself to believe, adding more power to someone does not make them weaker. It's so ridiculous I can't believe you act like you'd honestly believe it.

He was still weaker. :/ It's like the difference between mortalk and immortal hercules. Thor was proven to be weaker and being bloodlusted doesn't change it. He still fought like an idiot down to hulk's level and one bolt of lightning from the god of thunder isn't enough to say he was going all out. He was going all out in a weaker physically body and that he did as well as he did is a better showing for him than it was for Hulk.

No he wasn't :/ He no sold skyfathers. Who shot him from multiple angles and he was in a frenzy. To even take notice of it when he powered through the skyfathers and kept fighting, but stopped when hit by Thor's lighting shows how strong it was. No attempts at downplay by your part will change that. :/

Because that was regular Ares right? Christ, that Ares took blasts from Galactus and kept going. He was more than likely in trans levels at that time.

Don't give me that. Being brought down to Earth wasn't a sign that he was weakened. Even if he was he was still an abstract so, so what? He was mopping the floor with Herc and Thor got him off Herc momentarily. Thor's lighting ripping through his chest was what did the damage. Not Hellstrom's fire at the feet of CK. Pretty obvious to me what was meant to hurt him. Surfer did nothing like that, if you know something I don't post a scan please.

Interesting logic. If Thor manages to hurt beings who dwarf the Hulk in power then that doesn't mean he can use those attacks to do the same to Hulk? He just KO'd the phoenix force. Does that mean he couldn't do the same to Hulk with the same strike?

He doesn't use this kind of power on peers. Doesn't mean he can't. he only way for Hulk to have a chance at Thor is for him to restrict himself heavily. Melee and a couple of bolts of lighting. You can't deny if he cuts loose he takes on and beats beings who are >> Hulk. No reason for him to not be able to take down Hulk when he can do it to his superiors. So if he hurts people who makes Hulk look like an insect with Lightning, that same lightning would devastate the Hulk. Seems like a fairly simple line of thinking to me.
When else have you seen Sentry blown open with frequency he was in Siege? His durability has been shown as consistently higher than that, the helicarrier caused more damage than Thors lightning.

The magical gash was never an issue in Fear Itself and Thor had plenty of time to recover from the beating by his father, Classic Thor never tired out that quickly. Odin gave him a father-son hiding it wasn't as if he was trying to crack Thor skull. The empty speech bubble isn't proof Nul was KO'd, other characters like Angrir had the same thing while being awake.

I agree Savage Hulk's wacky high end feats surpass the current incarnation like destroying dimensions, time etc but against other characters, where it counts, he is clearly far inferior. People like Iron Man, Namor, Bi Beast etc aren't threats to Hulk anymore but could give Savage Hulk a good fight or in some cases win. At best Nul was on par with WWH, and that's still being quite generous imo. Don't forget WWH was Green Scar insane with rage over the death of his family and people.

Thor fights Hulk the same way he fights 95% of his other opponents, by trying to pound their face in the dirt. That's Thor's character. Using lightning, throwing Mjolnir and amped hammer shots are his main go-to powers, and nowadays that's usually as versatile as he gets.

No it's called no-limit fallacy, being able to affect powerful beings might sound good on his resume, but it's something every hero worth their salt has done. Surfer, Sentry, Superman, Hulk etc are no different. Skyfather level beings can be affected by high heralds but that's a million miles away from actually beating them. Ironically the only real elite level character I've seen Thor one-shot with lightning is himself.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
When else have you seen Sentry blown open with frequency he was in Siege? His durability has been shown as consistently higher than that, the helicarrier caused more damage than Thors lightning.

The magical gash was never an issue in Fear Itself and Thor had plenty of time to recover from the beating by his father, Classic Thor never tired out that quickly. Odin gave him a father-son hiding it wasn't as if he was trying to crack Thor skull. The empty speech bubble isn't proof Nul was KO'd, other characters like Angrir had the same thing while being awake.

I agree Savage Hulk's wacky high end feats surpass the current incarnation like destroying dimensions, time etc but against other characters, where it counts, he is clearly far inferior. People like Iron Man, Namor, Bi Beast etc aren't threats to Hulk anymore but could give Savage Hulk a good fight or in some cases win. At best Nul was on par with WWH, and that's still being quite generous imo. Don't forget WWH was Green Scar insane with rage over the death of his family and people.

Thor fights Hulk the same way he fights 95% of his other opponents, by trying to pound their face in the dirt. That's Thor's character. Using lightning, throwing Mjolnir and amped hammer shots are his main go-to powers, and nowadays that's usually as versatile as he gets.

No it's called no-limit fallacy, being able to affect powerful beings might sound good on his resume, but it's something every hero worth their salt has done. Surfer, Sentry, Superman, Hulk etc are no different. Skyfather level beings can be affected by high heralds but that's a million miles away from actually beating them. Ironically the only real elite level character I've seen Thor one-shot with lightning is himself.

Lol...like the comment about the lightning one shotting himself. The rest I agree with.

Of course you would.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Of course you would.

Nothing but the truth.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
When else have you seen Sentry blown open with frequency he was in Siege? His durability has been shown as consistently higher than that, the helicarrier caused more damage than Thors lightning.

The magical gash was never an issue in Fear Itself and Thor had plenty of time to recover from the beating by his father, Classic Thor never tired out that quickly. Odin gave him a father-son hiding it wasn't as if he was trying to crack Thor skull. The empty speech bubble isn't proof Nul was KO'd, other characters like Angrir had the same thing while being awake.

I agree Savage Hulk's wacky high end feats surpass the current incarnation like destroying dimensions, time etc but against other characters, where it counts, he is clearly far inferior. People like Iron Man, Namor, Bi Beast etc aren't threats to Hulk anymore but could give Savage Hulk a good fight or in some cases win. At best Nul was on par with WWH, and that's still being quite generous imo. Don't forget WWH was Green Scar insane with rage over the death of his family and people.

Thor fights Hulk the same way he fights 95% of his other opponents, by trying to pound their face in the dirt. That's Thor's character. Using lightning, throwing Mjolnir and amped hammer shots are his main go-to powers, and nowadays that's usually as versatile as he gets.

No it's called no-limit fallacy, being able to affect powerful beings might sound good on his resume, but it's something every hero worth their salt has done. Surfer, Sentry, Superman, Hulk etc are no different. Skyfather level beings can be affected by high heralds but that's a million miles away from actually beating them. Ironically the only real elite level character I've seen Thor one-shot with lightning is himself.

What does that have to do with anything? :/ this is a pathetic attempt to low ball Thor's attack. If Sentry isn't normally hurt then you should understand how strong the lightning was. The axe cut him because it was adamantium and being jabbed into his side by Ares. Hardly a low showing.

Then that lightning in particular. Thor turned him into a skeleton right after he healed back to full power.

oh yeah recover in that nice warm prison cell. Only to get slammed by him again when dropped to earth, fight the serpents army then get slammed again by the serpent.

This is a pretty sad argument also. :/ magic goop seeped out of his wounds. And he was in intense pain. Fraction had already established that. You don't need to constantly ***** about how your arm hurts if its just been cut off for people to know its affecting you in some way.

That would be why I said either KO'd or majorly ****ed up. In Nul's case it was a KO.

This is so ridiculous. WWH was the same incarnation that received the hammer. If not more powerful. the original WWH wasn't able to freely tap into the power of the world breaker. That WWH could. He was at the same levels since and could control his power. But no you see, thats not possible because it would make WWH look bad. Everyone else got an enormous power up except Hulk. That you can't see whats wrong with that is mind boggling.

Hulk hasn't actually. Compare the guys outside of Thor's weight class that he's harmed and then compare Hulk's. It's not in Hulk's favor.

95%? Thats such an over-exaggeration it actually made me laugh. He likes to scrap but when the going get tough, he uses his powers. Very effectively most of the time. If Thor doesn't want to go hand to hand or hand to hammer that is. Which is never the case with Hulk.

Yet you've seen the power he can produce. You're still despertately closing your eyes to what I'm saying. If he can affect or hurt or disintergrate beings that make the Hulk look like nothing, why would he be unable to do it to Hulk? So far the best I've heard is because he doesn't use abstract affecting lighting on his peers. Doesn't mean he can't.
Thor one shot killed the void by the way. And no Bob wanting to die doesn't somehow bring the void down to a much weaker level.

by the way,Your cheerleader is taking weight from your argument by agreeing with you

Sentry had taken a lightning strike right before the hellicarrier, so we have to assume that had something to do with weakening him.