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Piotr easily, he isn't an impulsive fighter like Mon or superboy

lol! Come on.

How does KK defeat Piotr?

Val can detect any weak points in objects and beings. He's been able to fight beings who are on Kryptonian level and take hits from them, who are far stronger than Colossus. Colossus would last longer since he's a better fighter, but not nearly as much as Val who would dodge his punches easily.

Piotr is highly skilled and has no weaknesses currently, infact Magneto fixed his weak spots while armored

Piotr could drop him with a Thunder clap

That's like the Emerald Eye, which is indestructible, but Val still did it.

He's not Colossusnaut anymore, right?

So, not truly invulnerable?

Concession accepted. Colossus can be taken out and the fight isn't as one sided as you think now go troll somewhere else,

Originally posted by pym-ftw


He's also kicked through force fields and metals even Superboy struggled to dent.

He even lectured Superboy that if he had his kind of training, he wouldn't have as much trouble ripping through the densest metals.

Originally posted by cdtm
He's also kicked through force fields and metals even Superboy struggled to dent.

He even lectured Superboy that if he had his kind of training, he wouldn't have as much trouble ripping through the densest metals.

Interon or however you spell it is probably more durable than Colossus.

@cdtm

He has the feats pre jugg upgrade to survive falling from orbit

@Golgo

Lol I'm the troll,

He bfr'd Mon by redirecting him, which makes no sence
Pis
He gave Superboy Vertigo by spinning him, but Superboy can move and react at super speed without upsetting his inner ear
Pis

Your move

Come on. Val has destroyed Inerton, which is DC's equivalent of Adimantium. Or close to it. He's taken down beings stronger than Colossus, don't be stupid.

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Worldbreaker?

He can do this, yet hurts his foot against the shell of crab people. Even if they had Superboy level durability, he never hurt his foot against Superboy..

Which I just explained how, congrats

Superboy is about as skilled a fighter as Creel, and Mon's not much better

And if he hit the robot in a "weak" spot its obviously not as strong

Depending on the Mon-El, he has trained under Val armorr, so he's not as incompetent as you think.

Beast trained under Logan and Cap, he still sucks at h2h

Doesn't mean Mon-El is and you can't really prove that Colossus is a better fighter. Besides, Val is light years ahead of Logan or Cap.

Val is more skilled than Piotr I'm never gonna argue that, but Piotr's defence is above Vals offence

Now that I think of it, Colossus probably won't even tag Val. In a hth fight. While Val will eventually knock him down.

Originally posted by pym-ftw

And if he hit the robot in a "weak" spot its obviously not as strong

He's also broken free from Inertron restraints. (PC Superboy needed an amp from insanity to do same)

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No weak point exploitation here, just more weird space karate techniques.

You really want to go the eventuality card, armored colossus doesn't need food or water

Val wins.

No, but he will get KO'd.

Originally posted by cdtm
He's also broken free from Inertron restraints. (PC Superboy needed an amp from insanity to do
No weak point exploitation here, just more weird space karate techniques.
But a whole lot more standing still and amping ...

Originally posted by Golgo13
No, but he will get KO'd.
Better shot of Val breaking his foot.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
But a whole lot more standing still and amping ...

To perform a feat that exceeds base strength Superboy.

It proves he can amp his strength with his techniques, somewhat explaining how he can cause mini quakes with a kick to the ground, or tear through diamond prisons. He won't need to hit that "strength" level in a fight with a brick, even one as durable as Colossus..

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Better shot of Val breaking his foot.

So, you're saying Colossus is more durable than PC Superboy?

Vals best chance of him beating Piotr is to bury him, but there's a big chance colossus just digs himself out very quickly

Colossus best chances is just to give up. Nah, he can take a few wins.

How does Val deal with a t clap

By flying away.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
How does Val deal with a t clap Has Colossus ever used a Thunderclap?

He has, granted it was post jugg upgrade, but even classic colossus is strong enough

Luke cage uses the t clap

Originally posted by pym-ftw
He has, granted it was post jugg upgrade, but even classic colossus is strong enough

Luke cage uses the t clap In theory wouldn't a t clap from Colossus be lethal from the clang of his metal hands? It's be like banging two hammers together. BTW on a side note I've seen Colossus create sparks by rubbing his fists together.

Classic Colossus was a pacifist so I'm assuming that's why he never used it, that and the stealth approach the xmen use kinda is at odds with it

That would be Colossus's only chance, IMO.

Yeah, but odds on KK creating a counter vibrational thunderclap which cancels out Piotr's thunderclap, causes KK to fly, coocks breakfast and makes everything burst into flames? Lol....

Originally posted by Golgo13
Interon or however you spell it is probably more durable than Colossus. I believe it was discovered that Colossus is made of "Fagimantium".

Originally posted by juggernaut74
In theory wouldn't a t clap from Colossus be lethal from the clang of his metal hands? It's be like banging two hammers together. BTW on a side note I've seen Colossus create sparks by rubbing his fists together. ...reeaachiinngg...

Karate Kid is PIMAS (Plot Induced Martial Arts Stupidity) incarnate. He wins this easily.