DOS Doomsday vs this Avengers team

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lawest9
Wonderman
Iron Man ( standard armor )
Vision
Scarlet Witch
Black Panther
Monica Rambeau

Can this team fare better than the JLA team that DD went through like butter?

zopzop
He crushes this Avengers lineup easier than he did the JLA.

Stoic
Wanda may be able to stop him.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Doomsday can beat Monica???!

Sin I AM
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Doomsday can beat Monica???!

Probably...if the fight goes on long enough..iirc he beat Radiant but that was after DOS.

Galan007
Even before the events of DoS, Doomsday was good against energy -- he essentially adapted beyond GL energy all together in the Annual, for example. And after DoS, Doomsday adapted beyond Radiant and Waverider(who are energy beings), along with the Omega Beams, Astro Force, etc.

Monica better make the first attack one heck of a doozy if she wants to have any shot at beating him, because she won't get a second chance. DD will adapt beyond her.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Galan007
Even before the events of DoS, Doomsday was good against energy -- he essentially adapted beyond GL energy all together in the Annual, for example. And after DoS, Doomsday adapted beyond Radiant and Waverider(who are energy beings), along with the Omega Beams, Astro Force, etc.

Monica better make the first attack one heck of a doozy if she wants to have any shot at beating him, because she won't get a second chance. DD will adapt beyond her.

Monica's living sentinent EM energy, she doesn't need a physical form

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Galan007
Even before the events of DoS, Doomsday was good against energy -- he essentially adapted beyond GL energy all together in the Annual, for example. And after DoS, Doomsday adapted beyond Radiant and Waverider(who are energy beings), along with the Omega Beams, Astro Force, etc.

Monica better make the first attack one heck of a doozy if she wants to have any shot at beating him, because she won't get a second chance. DD will adapt beyond her.

DD was already tanking the entire JLAs energy attack.

Damborgson
The team gets absolutely shit stomped

Galan007
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
DD was already tanking the entire JLAs energy attack. thumb up

DarkSaint85
Plus, he tore through an energy being later on, the rationale given that he now had evolved AFTER Radiant had 'killed' him (i.e. prior to DoS):

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/65659/3500548-doomsday+rips+radiant.jpg

AlbertoJohnAvil
Monica isn't radiant, saint... cmo--

never take the time to think about the words you type

DarkSaint85
Radiant has no physical form, DD ripped through him.

As he had evolved past energy beings.

I know you're really just trolling as per usual, but I don't mind.

DarkSaint85
Full powah!

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rsMY9qIiuvE/Vn0zbMhyUyI/AAAAAAAAJGA/vLZ9nDJMovk/s1600/war2015-004c.jpg

xJLxKing
At best, maybe BfR otherwise DD destroys them

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Plus, he tore through an energy being later on, the rationale given that he now had evolved AFTER Radiant had 'killed' him (i.e. prior to DoS):

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/65659/3500548-doomsday+rips+radiant.jpg

She can become any energy source.

That only worked because he is one type of radiation.

SquallX

AlbertoJohnAvil
Yes, his specific energy. This also isn't DoS.

SquallX

Zelax
The majority of the Avengers line up, isn't doing squat to Doomsday. Maybe, apart from Monica, who has some impressive energy manipulation feats. Nevertheless, i still don't think it will be enough to take down Doomsday, as he will adapt to the last exposure and become more powerful.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by Zelax
The majority of the Avengers line up, isn't doing squat to Doomsday. Maybe, apart from Monica, who has some impressive energy manipulation feats. Nevertheless, i still don't think it will be enough to take down Doomsday, as he will adapt to the last exposure and become more powerful.

Certain versions of Wanda could beat him. Monica will give him pause but overall this team isn't that good

Zelax
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Certain versions of Wanda could beat him. Monica will give him pause but overall this team isn't that good Didn't notice Wanda, and I doubt that she will be useful here, since it's more than likely the current version that's utilized here.

Stoic
Originally posted by Zelax
Didn't notice Wanda, and I doubt that she will be useful here, since it's more than likely the current version that's utilized here.

That doesn't go very far in addressing the chaos magic that he has never encountered. She would know going in that she shouldn't go easy on DD.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Full powah!

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rsMY9qIiuvE/Vn0zbMhyUyI/AAAAAAAAJGA/vLZ9nDJMovk/s1600/war2015-004c.jpg

Remember, he's weakened here. And all these DIFFERENT types of energy isn't really doing much, despite being at full power. Whilst some of you may argue that Wanda would go in at full power as well, I'm just pointing out that DD here has already been through a Guardian dying on him, the Radiant etc.

And despite being very much weakened, still walked through and tanked various different types of energy like it was nothing.

Bentley
Most of them will get killed. Their best chance by far is having T'challa come on with means to BFR Doomsday 'cause they are never going to beat him straight up.

Still, given his spee DD should have this in the pocket.

Stoic
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Remember, he's weakened here. And all these DIFFERENT types of energy isn't really doing much, despite being at full power. Whilst some of you may argue that Wanda would go in at full power as well, I'm just pointing out that DD here has already been through a Guardian dying on him, the Radiant etc.

And despite being very much weakened, still walked through and tanked various different types of energy like it was nothing.

We all saw how powerful Wanda is when it comes to DC. In DC, Wanda would be a Chaos Lord. DD has never encountered her power, so she can't be discounted here, especially since she's the most powerful of the bunch. She is a bit of a glass canon, but if she successfully manages to launch an assault, it could be devastating to him. You also can't compare Radiant to Monica. She can shift to any energy form at will. They could win this.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Stoic
We all saw how powerful Wanda is when it comes to DC. In DC, Wanda would be a Chaos Lord. DD has never encountered her power, so she can't be discounted here, especially since she's the most powerful of the bunch. She is a bit of a glass canon, but if she successfully manages to launch an assault, it could be devastating to him. You also can't compare Radiant to Monica. She can shift to any energy form at will. They could win this.

Wanda in DC never happened,at least, not for the purposes of KMC. Moreover, you're assuming the Avengers come to DC,rather than DD coming to Marvel, or a third arena where neither side gets an advantage.

Am comparing the Radiant to Monica in the sense that they are both energy beings, and immaterial, without a physical form. That didn't matter to DD.

As for the type of energy, he didn't need to adapt to Fire, or Bloodwynd, or Guy. He just tanked it.

Bloodwynd who, it has been pointed out to me, is magical in his energy.

And whilst they can absolutely win, it has been pointed out that DD still has his speed.

MrMind
DD

Stoic
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wanda in DC never happened,at least, not for the purposes of KMC. Moreover, you're assuming the Avengers come to DC,rather than DD coming to Marvel, or a third arena where neither side gets an advantage.

Am comparing the Radiant to Monica in the sense that they are both energy beings, and immaterial, without a physical form. That didn't matter to DD.

As for the type of energy, he didn't need to adapt to Fire, or Bloodwynd, or Guy. He just tanked it.

Bloodwynd who, it has been pointed out to me, is magical in his energy.

And whilst they can absolutely win, it has been pointed out that DD still has his speed.

Monica also has speed. Chaos magic is still something that he has not encountered which was my point. You can't simply tag DD with full immunity when he isn't, which is why saying DD without a doubt wins becomes a no limits fallacy in his favor. He could win, but they could win as well.

DarkSaint85
Yes Monica has speed.

My point was to Wanda.

Zelax
Originally posted by Stoic
That doesn't go very far in addressing the chaos magic that he has never encountered. She would know going in that she shouldn't go easy on DD. The rules don't state the specific morals of this fight, so I wouldn't be to sure if Wanda will be blood lusted right off the bat. The same can apply to the rest as well.

tkitna
Wanda with a combination of Monica might be able to get a KO. Other than that, the Avengers team will lose.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Zelax
The rules don't state the specific morals of this fight, so I wouldn't be to sure if Wanda will be blood lusted right off the bat. The same can apply to the rest as well.

Depends when the fight takes place.

If DD is as at the start of the storyline, he's at his weakest, but nobody knows who he is (common knowledge).

By the end of the storyline, common knowledge rules mean the Avengers know what the general populace of DC Earth knows. Which is that this is one bad mofo, who doesn't hold back and is a mindless beast who just ran through their greatest heroes.

With that knowledge, they likely won't hold back and would go all in.

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