Mr. Fantastic vs Mr. Miracle
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Supermutant
Reed Richards has one week to design a trap that can hold Scott Free, and he knows Scott's abilities. But Scott has 24 hours to free himself once inside the trap. Scott has his standard gear which includes a mother box and aero-discs. Who wins this scenario?
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AlbertoJohnAvil
reed obvs lol
Zelax
Mr. Miracle wins. Scott has the title of being the "World's Greatest Escape Artist", and is considered to be the best escapist in the DC universe.
He has yet to come across a trap that can out due him.
beatboks
Yeah Scot will escape regardless of what Reed comes up with.
Knowing what Scot's abilities are simply wouldnt be enough he has escaped things his abilities shouldnt allow him too.
Supermutant
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
reed obvs lol
You seem to think this is spite? I would challenge you to a BZ on this but well
It's funny that you think this is so obvious, when recently you told me you didn't know that much about Mr. Miracle.
DarkSaint85
You know, I think Scott can escape.
abhilegend
Yeah, Scott will be free. Pun intended.
DarkSaint85
Surely it should be the other way round?
Alberto, come up with a trap. Then we attempt to escape....
Especially as YOU made the claim it was spite.....
AlbertoJohnAvil
Reed has figured out ways to kill abstracts.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Reed has figured out ways to kill abstracts.
Ok?
So what's the trap that Scot can't escape from?
beatboks
Scot escaped Granny Goodnesses pit and labyrinth without any powers or tech. Up against all the advanced tech of apokalips.
Reed aledgedly knows his capabilities but that os basically knowing he is peak human with some tech beyond anything Reed has ever made and yet he's performed his best escapes without it. When Darksied sent the furies after him he escaped them while having Mother box protect Barda and Oberon. He didnt even take his vaunted tech with him.
Despite having the Ale he's only ever used it when he was bloodlusted pissed after Barda's death, and when he did he used it to stomp a source amped infinity man and break the freakin source wall as a side effect.
Reed isnt trapping Scot unless he wants to be trapped.
beatboks
Abstracts have failed to contain Scot so that is just a NLF
AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by beatboks
Scot escaped Granny Goodnesses pit and labyrinth without any powers or tech. Up against all the advanced tech of apokalips.
Reed aledgedly knows his capabilities but that os basically knowing he is peak human with some tech beyond anything Reed has ever made and yet he's performed his best escapes without it. When Darksied sent the furies after him he escaped them while having Mother box protect Barda and Oberon. He didnt even take his vaunted tech with him.
Despite having the Ale he's only ever used it when he was bloodlusted pissed after Barda's death, and when he did he used it to stomp a source amped infinity man and break the freakin source wall as a side effect.
Reed isnt trapping Scot unless he wants to be trapped.
She does not prep nor does she have the prep skills reed has.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
She does not prep nor does she have the prep skills reed has.
What does this have to do with anything lol.
What trap can Reed set in a week that would hold Scott for 24 hours? Simple question.
AlbertoJohnAvil
also @beatboks, reed has done far more with far less
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
also @beatboks, reed has done far more with far less
So please post his trapping feats, which makes this spite.
cdtm
What about that room that everyone says can trap Flash? The one Pym was in?
leonidas
does scott start in the trap, or does reed have to get him INTO the trap? sounds like the former. and what's the name of that special room reed built that you always want to throw people in, ds...? it wasn't the solve everything room i don't think, was it?
DarkSaint85
Zeno room - and yes, I did think about it.
Sound can escape. Reed can modify that though, easily - put a vaccuum around it.
Light can also escape - as Reed could still see Pym. Has he thought of it? Maybe, maybe not. He'd still want to actually see Scott, I'd assume.
Moreover, Scott has a Boom Tube generator with his Motherbox, so can just teleport out.
cdtm
If Reed knows this, can't boom tubes be interfered with?
Or what would Scott do without his gear?
DarkSaint85
Well then I guess that's what people are meant to prove - what would Reed do to block a Motherbox from boom tubing away. Or to divert them so that they open into a volcano or something.
As for what he can do without his gear etc, see beatboks.
Edit: he also has the Alpha Effect (opposite of Omega Effect). Which he can use to get out of the room.
AlbertoJohnAvil
reed turn galactus into a wimpy human with prep. That dude can do anything with prep. the fact your pitting mr miracle against a prep god like reed is ridiculous
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
reed turn galactus into a wimpy human with prep. That dude can do anything with prep. the fact your pitting mr miracle against a prep god like reed is ridiculous
Then post his trapping feats.
Tell us what Reed would/could do with a week.
DeadpoolXXX
mr miracle fell into an actual singularity and into darkseids ultimate lifetrap during seven soldiers. took a while but he eventually broke out of even that.
reed cant contain him.
beatboks
How do you have far less than nothing? Scot had zero resources to escape the pit. This BTW was the same pit that the collective Guardians of universe couldnt break their first lantern out of. It was why they did a deal with Darksied to leave him alone.
I'd like to see this feat where Reed with far less than zero resources to draw upon does what the collective Guardians of the universe could not.
Quick Freeze
The Blue Honeypot:
Reed has Mystique pose as Barda in what Scot thinks is his bedroom, but it's not, and has Mystique change back to herself mid-coitus. Then Mystique threatens to tell Barda what he did if Scot even thinks of leaving
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