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WHOS more skilled in terms of combat

stats are equalized

no ki blasts etc

PURE SKILL

https://i.postimg.cc/Ty4bshgs/1-0.png

It's hard to answer this because Goku have always been super human. I would say Batman because of this. Make a thread, General Tao (anime fts accepted) vs Batman.

general tao is pretty skilled

Kung Fu and karate were used in Dragonball to various degrees too. Kaioken is also a style as well as the technique too. Around the king piccolo arc in the OG Dragonball was when styles were replaced with powering up until your stats were higher.

If we look at Martial artist showings, I would give it to Goku but again, its pretty hard determining this since Goku as a child was dodging light speed attacks and throwing people almost out of orbit with ease.

as much as i love batman, goku would take this.. even de-powered, goku would still love to fight bruce and gain a wealth of knowledge prior to beating him

Bruce would beat the living shit out of Goku with stats equal. Be real.

^Now thats what you call bias

Quoting me apparently drives Albert batshit crazy, just saying.

Quoting Stilt too, lol.

I haven't followed Dragon Ball stuff since I was a kid, but doesn't Goku usually have a physical edge over anyone he beats? Does he have legit skill showings? Or any that would put him in a class with Bruce? Or even Huntress? Or, hell, even Ava Ayala or Finesse?

Bruce destroys Goku.

Kakarot wins.

Superman is more skilled than Gayku is, sorry fam its true

Originally posted by RadZoa
Superman is more skilled than Gayku is, sorry fam its true

Superman is probably more skilled than Gayku. Great thing is, we are talking about GOKU.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman is probably more skilled than Gayku. Great thing is, we are talking about GOKU.

Gayku Goku

Tomato To-mato

I would say Goku MAY be as skilled as Stephanie brown

Originally posted by carver9
If we look at Martial artist showings, I would give it to Goku but again, its pretty hard determining this since Goku as a child was dodging light speed attacks and throwing people almost out of orbit with ease.

"kid goku is lightspeed in combat....."



not even the most rabid dbz fan would make that claim

Originally posted by carver9
It's hard to answer this because Goku have always been super human. I would say Batman because of this. Make a thread, General Tao (anime fts accepted) vs Batman.


Tao can shoot energy beam out of his finger

Tao's phsyical stats completely shits on Bruce,

their stats are not even close to being equalized, terrible analogy

Originally posted by MrMind
"kid goku is lightspeed in combat....."



not even the most rabid dbz fan would make that claim

No, but that's not what carver said.

Much like competent street levelers, Goku was casually dodging lasers, bullets and whatnot.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No, but that's not what carver said.

Much like competent street levelers, Goku was casually dodging lasers, bullets and whatnot.

oh no one is arguing with that, but I could've swear I've seen him arguing lightspeed for kid goku in Broly vs Thor thread couple years ago

dodging lasers and bullets are very basic stuff in comics or manga

Originally posted by carver9
Tien "light speed fury punches". Arms literally turns to light.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/250689-ten_lightspeed_punch_1_super.jpg.html?sort=9&o=3
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/250690-ten_lightspeed_punch_2_super.jpg.html?sort=9&o=4
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/250691-ten_lightspeed_punch_3_super.jpg.html?sort=9&o=5

carver legit thought Tien was punching at lightspeed, lmao

Originally posted by MrMind
oh no one is arguing with that, but I could've swear I've seen him arguing lightspeed for kid goku in Broly vs Thor thread couple years ago

dodging lasers and bullets are very basic stuff in comics or manga

Yeah, it's a common feat.

We became quite fussy and started picking ones with art or on-panel statements suggesting that characters indeed dodged said projectiles, not simply aim-dodged them...

... but even then, we could dismiss those showings as retarded --- or --- we still needed to admit that those were short bursts of super speed, as streets can't sustain such speeds for prolonged time.




Anyway, this thread is about skill.

Batman's physicals can't compare with those of Goku --- who started his career as bulletproof already --- so his feats of dodging shit are more impressive, skill-wise that is, as he doesn't have Saiyan speed.

He relies on ninja vanish gimmicks sometimes, true, but that counts as skill, too.

Originally posted by MrMind
carver legit thought Tien was punching at lightspeed, lmao

Hey, LIGHT SPEED fury punch". Blame the writer, not me. Then we see Tien arms turn into beams of light.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
WHOS more skilled in terms of combat

stats are equalized

no ki blasts etc

PURE SKILL

https://i.postimg.cc/Ty4bshgs/1-0.png


Batman, of course.


He uses actual techniques, while Goku is a mindless brawler.

Originally posted by cdtm
Batman, of course.


He uses actual techniques, while Goku is a mindless brawler.

Goku's martial arts are based in tiger, crane, leopard, and drunken punch Kung Fu. It's just been stylized to add in levitation and things of that nature.

Originally posted by cdtm
Batman, of course.


He uses actual techniques, while Goku is a mindless brawler.

Pretty much. If Goku had technique he wouldn't have to up his power level

Why not? That's not how DBZ works. No matter how skilled you are, if someone dwarfs your power, you are nothing to them. Batman would be absolutely nothing to Nappa.

Originally posted by carver9
Why not? That's not how DBZ works. No matter how skilled you are, if someone dwarfs your power, you are nothing to them. Batman would be absolutely nothing to Nappa.

I understand how DBZ works. It's about power not skill. You misinterpreted my response

Bruce is an Artist, Goku a Painter. Equalized stats, Bruce could do what Goku can, other way around not so much, Batman would be Alex Ross while Goku would go up to Rob Liefeld level.

Ross is overrated and Liefeld, all mockery aside, had the official blessing from guy222. You can't beat that.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I understand how DBZ works. It's about power not skill. You misinterpreted my response

Plus he's just wrong.


Krillin beat Gohan on pure skill.

Sin is talking about DBZ, not DBS.

And let's face it, that showing was an outlier, an exception to the general rule.