John Constantine vs Adam Warlock

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Evolve
Adam has Soul Gem

zopzop
Adam Warlock, in almost all of his incarnations, is at least a herald level being. He also has one of the Infinity Gems and he's adept at using it. He's a master strategist and has an extensive knowledge of the occult and nature of the universe. How the PHUCK does he lose vs Constantine (and yes, I'm aware of the 'time to plan' BS that surrounds him)?

carver9
Constantine imo

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by zopzop
Adam Warlock, in almost all of his incarnations, is at least a herald level being. He also has one of the Infinity Gems and he's adept at using it. He's a master strategist and has an extensive knowledge of the occult and nature of the universe. How the PHUCK does he lose vs Constantine (and yes, I'm aware of the 'time to plan' BS that surrounds him)?
Remember when he phcuked with Darkseid?

Evolve
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Remember when he phcuked with Darkseid?

Constantine has some prep time.

MrMind
constantine wins even without prep time, there's no way warlock is close to john in a feat war

he is far above herald level being, hence why he was listed as trans level in kmc tier list.

ODG
^ In your opinion, Constantine is trans-level? Is that based on his power level or his accomplishments via prep/manipulation?

MrMind
Originally posted by MrMind
Constantine is at least trans, a solid case to be made for skyfather, constantine is literally dc version of classic doctor strange with prep level of doom. don't believe me? read Justice League Dark

the feats he has is fukin insane. especially his new52 feats

Synchronicity Wave Travelling simply makes him a walking plot device, distance and time bend the knees to him

he can one shot frankenstein with one word, able to incapacitate swamp thing

constantine has seal that can temporarily trap zauriel, the same zauriel that was able to kill the freaking phantom stranger, phantom stranger is a threat to all of creation according to freaking presence. he was able to trick zauriel to the house of mystery and summon a seal on him. (house of mystery is owned by constantine, one of the most haxxed artifact/weapon in existence.)


constantine has summoned and banished phantom stranger against his will

pandora box wasn't able to affect him, he was able to imprison pandora, phantom stranger and question in 12 hours.

MMH's tp doesn't work on him.

constantine killed nabu with trail of anubis.

he has curses to ruin anyone's life.

he can use random cigarretes as powerful ward to fight mister e who was amped by all the magical artifacts.

he can use quantum magic to travel to 5th dimension or even limbo.

he can resist affects of the time gremlins by pralaya- an omnipotent being. who was erasing all of creation

able to held dreamstone with his barehand, the same stone that harmed dream of the endless before.

he can time travel, or resists temporal change acted upon himself.

he has dodged punch from spectre, he has weapon like moonblade that is capable of affecting concepts and trapping gods, which he used to seal mister e.

he has wish granting magic matches that can depower swamp thing that was amped by the word.

aside from hax, constantine has attack potency in close combat as well, constantine has tore powerful demon negal's spine straight out of his body with his bare hand. (negal's body was in limbo and massive)

JLD villain blight was cracking open creation, blight is someone zauriel and phantom stranger cannot beat. constantine and nightmare nurse was able to overpower blight temporarily with nightmare curse.

even after his magic blood was pulled out of his body by upside down man.
constantine was still able to trade magic blast with freaking nabu
he was able to use binding spell on witchmarked wonder woman

other miscellaneous crap, like creating portal to the after life, summon demons, steal magic etc

notice the characters I mentioned constantine has faced? beings like first of fallen, pralaya, blight, spectre, phantom stranger, the word etc, they are abstract level beings at the top of dc cosmic hierarchy.

to even trouble those beings would require someone to at least be trans-skyfather level, and even then it would be a stretch. to think constantine is high herald level is quite frankly, absurd.

carver9
It's crazy that Hulk has fts that are better than most of what you've said including overpowering abstracts (at his weakest levels) but most of you still don't put him in trans tier levels of power because he isn't a DC character. Hilarious!!!

MrMind
dont just say shit

prove your stance for once in your existence loser

if you think hulk feats are better, post them and lets go one by one to see who is superior

ShadowFyre
Did you even read that list? Hulk has good punching feats but comparing them to Constantine's feats are like apples and oranges

carver9
Make a thread. Cry baby

ODG
Originally posted by MrMind
Which of those feats are based on his power level or his accomplishments via prep/manipulation?

carver9
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Did you even read that list? Hulk has good punching feats but comparing them to Constantine's feats are like apples and oranges

It's kinda Apple and oranges but his fts are still better overall. I was talking to mind when I asked to make a thread by the way.

ODG
@ MrMind Originally posted by ODG
Which of those feats are based on his power level or his accomplishments via prep/manipulation?

Senor Cage
Constantine

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