Mongul/The General vs Saitama
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carver9
Saitama gets all of his fts since he isn't as established as these characters. No bfr
DarkSaint85
The OP sounds as if were Saitama an established character, he wouldn't get all his feats

carver9
I added that to avoid debating if a ft can be used or not. We all know who's the person that is good at removing fts from certain characters. 😏😏
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
I added that to avoid debating if a ft can be used or not. We all know who's the person that is good at removing fts from certain characters. 😏😏
Yes, it's you lol. You keep calling it 'space cheese' and saying they don't count, and that you only use fights. Such a 2-faced hypocrite.
carver9
I haven't even mentioned any fts in this thread. Are you ok?
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
I haven't even mentioned any fts in this thread. Are you ok?
This you?
Originally posted by carver9
Outliers that holds no weight on what an opponent can do in a fight. Example of this is Terrax who hung in a Black hole (while weakened mind you) and withstood it with no problems at all. Crushed a planet with a simple swing. In a fight against someone who doesn't come close to having power output that even match those showings, like, let's say Black Adam - people, including myself would give Adam the edge and completely ignore the things Terrax have endured and also dished out. Fights are what matter. People only pay attention to cheese fts when it suits them.
Seems like you like picking and choosing feats when they suit you. 'Outliers', you call em.
You are the one who ignores feats, it seems.
h1a8
Carver flip flops depending on who he is debating. He openly admitted to the trolling in the other thread.
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This you?
Seems like you like picking and choosing feats when they suit you. 'Outliers', you call em.
You are the one who ignores feats, it seems.
What fts? I didn't name any fts here.
DarkSaint85
Did you not see the words you typed? Are you saying you don't believe what you typed in another thread?
Blight
Originally posted by carver9
What fts? I didn't name any fts here. Is this brush off an attempt to insinuate threads exist in a vacuum?
carver9
Originally posted by Blight
Is this brush off an attempt to insinuate threads exist in a vacuum?
Nope. There's certain individuals that dismiss fts for non-legitimate reasons. To avoid that, ESPECIALLY since I've been through this with Saitama before, I added ALL fts are acceptable for the character. This exempt pages of debating the same topic, it being canon or not, and it gives validation to a character that isn't displayed in Manga as much as his comic counterpart.
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Did you not see the words you typed? Are you saying you don't believe what you typed in another thread?
I'm the OP in THIS thread. If I want Saitama to get all of Hulk and Superman fts in MY thread and I mention it in the OP, it stands, lol. Why are you afraid of Saitama getting his showings?
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Nope. There's certain individuals that dismiss fts for non-legitimate reasons. To avoid that, ESPECIALLY since I've been through this with Saitama before, I added ALL fts are acceptable for the character. This exempt pages of debating the same topic, it being canon or not, and it gives validation to a character that isn't displayed in Manga as much as his comic counterpart.
Wait so all feats across all versions are accepted? I just don't get what the OP is saying, since all feats are allowed for characters anyway....nobody says feats aren't allowed?
Edit: wait, are you misunderstanding my post form all those years ago?
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait so all feats across all versions are accepted? I just don't get what the OP is saying, since all feats are allowed for characters anyway....nobody says feats aren't allowed?
Edit: wait, are you misunderstanding my post form all those years ago?
Is this ft canon IN YOUR OPINION for Saitama? Yes or no.
https://i.ibb.co/yBbyK7B5/lfh7m8rc4bg91-1.jpg
DarkSaint85
Ahhhh now I get it, because of the time travel part of the story, is that what you are referring to?
Goddamn even when you try to be sneaky you're shit,lol
carver9
Its canon here, lol. Now let's move on.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Its canon here, lol. Now let's move on.
So people get all their showings?
carver9
Yes!!! Recent canon showings for Mongul (we always use the latest version of each character). The General gets his latest showings as well.
DarkSaint85
It's a yes or no question, lmao.
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's a yes or no question, lmao.
I edited my post. Check it out.
DarkSaint85
Damn. General Eiling has some pretty damn low showings in his latest incarnations, that are at odds with his highs.
MrMind
team due to better feats
Blight
I might be behind on my OPM, and if one wants to argue strictly in feats, I have no clue. But as far as "point of the character" I don't see how Saitama ever loses.
DarkSaint85
It depends on how things are being compared, really. Carver can clarify how stacked he needs the thread to be for Saitama to win.
carver9
If we use fts, I think a solid argument can be made for Saitama. A very solid argument.
DarkSaint85
.....I am still confused what people are referring to as 'fts'.
Fights are feats. Lifting the statue of Liberty is a feat. Fighting Flashy Flash and Speed O sonic are feats. Outrunning bullets is a feat. They're all feats.
carver9
Ok. Fights are fts but Ive learned from someone that we cant just look at that. They posted a good example of Batman enduring Wonder Woman punches. At first I disagreed with that person, but I've learned that when im debating that person, fights really don't stack up well to fts. Only with that person, though.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Ok. Fights are fts but Ive learned from someone that we cant just look at that. They posted a good example of Batman enduring Wonder Woman punches. At first I disagreed with that person, but I've learned that when im debating that person, fights really don't stack up well to fts. Only with that person, though.
Does it not also depend on how many showings they have?
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Does it not also depend on how many showings they have?
It depends. Superman vs Zaar was referenced as PIS and Zaar didnt have that many showings. So I guess it doesn't based off this same confused in the brain, person.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
It depends. Superman vs Zaar was referenced as PIS and Zaar didnt have that many showings. So I guess it doesn't based off this same confused in the brain, person.
I said it was PIS? Did I now....
So how many showings does SUPERMAN have? I think you're very confused, maybe you're drunk? Or just stupid lol.
I remember trying to get clarity on whether statements counted or not. Do they?
Blight
I just realized Carver has you on an ignore list but clearly isn't ignoring you.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Blight
I just realized Carver has you on an ignore list but clearly isn't ignoring you.
Lmao he's the Kite Man to my Batman. The Condiment King, the Turner D Century to my Spider-Man.
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I said it was PIS? Did I now....
So how many showings does SUPERMAN have? I think you're very confused, maybe you're drunk? Or just stupid lol.
I remember trying to get clarity on whether statements counted or not. Do they?
This you?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, pretty much this.
And yes, Leo initial post to my post was about PIS.
h1a8
Spite in favor of Saitama
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
This you?
And yes, Leo initial post to my post was about PIS.
.....
So where am I saying the Rogol/Superman fight was PIS? Come on, Carv, try harder lol.
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