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If Arnold absolutely had to be replaced for Terminator 4 I would rather it be by Roland Kickinger than say Vin Diesel, The Rock, or someone similar.

Originally posted by DanZeke25
I hope Arnold can be in T4, it will feel wierd without him. I think it'll be good still, but it will be better with him. And Roland Kickinger looks jts like him. I wish they could get him.

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What do you think?

Roland Kickinger's Bodybuilding Competitions

Ironman Pro Invitational
Arnold Classic
Mr. Miami Classic - 1989
Newcomer Champion Austria - 1992
Mr. Powerhouse -1994
Mr. Muscle Beach - 1994
Mr. Universe - 1995
Arnold Classic - 1996
San Jose Pro Invitational - 1997
Night Of The Champions - 1997
Ironman Pro Invitational - 1998
San Francisco Pro Invitational - 1998

Height: 6'4

Off Season Weight: 320 lbs.

Competition Weight: 300 lbs.

Roland was born on March 30, 1968 in Vienna, Austria.


He's Austrian, he bears a striking resemblance to his hero and he's got bulging biceps he likes to call "my little Alps." Who better to play Arnold Schwarzenegger in a U.S. made-for-TV movie than actor Roland Kickinger?

Inspired by the Schwarzenegger film "Conan the Barbarian," Kickinger began bodybuilding at a gym in Vienna in the 1980s. Now he's starring as a young Schwarzenegger in "See Arnold Run," a film being made by the cable channel A&E.

Kickinger, a former Mr. Austria who says he befriended Schwarzenegger and has idolized the California governor for years, told Austrian television Thursday it's a dream role.

Kickinger, 36, who recently gained U.S. citizenship just as Schwarzenegger did in 1984, moved to California in 1995, where he earned cash by flexing his muscles and posing for tourists for $3 a pop.

"What Arnold has done for me and for every bodybuilder and immigrant is amazing," he said. "I'm one of his biggest fans."

Kickinger, who won the title of Mr. Austria, which Schwarzenegger held in 1964, didn't have to work on his accent. "I could easily feel how things must have happened to him in the beginning."



Footage of Roland Kickinger playing Arnold and interviews HERE

I don't think he could ever replace Arnold. That doesn't mean the couldn't use him though. Why not have him as a Model 102 or 100 or something, so it's like it's a similar design to the Arnold-model, but not quite the same.

That said, I'm not really interested in a T4. I will see it because I am a fan of the first two, but to me it seems that 3 and 4 were made just for the sake of profit and not driven by the same creativity that was in the first two.

He definately could replace Arnold if need be, but my point is, why should any of the Termniators be big hulks of muscle anyway?

In fact, there is no real need to have a human exterior anyway, their purpose was to shield their appearance when they went back in time, something which is totally uneccessary when the war unfolds.

Don't forget T1. The Terminators were originally designed as infilitration units. In the future they still have super strength, but plasma weapons can cut them down just as easily as they can humans. Their only advantage in the future is their ability to carry much bigger weapons like that huge phased plasma cannon that the future Terminator in T1 had.

Besides think of it as camoflage. All (well most) SkyNet units are all networked so friendly fire isn't an issue for them, but if TechCom sees endos they know to shoot. If they see a guy wearing rags, there is at least some hesitation and that could give the Terminator the edge it needs in a battle or assassination attempt.

You are right about the Terminator not having to be muscly. Just look at Robert Patrick. Sure he was fit, but he wasn't a body-builder and he was still very intimidating and a very believeable character.

The original concept of the Terminator was more like the T1000. He was just an average looking guy that could disappear into a crowd and kill you for seemingly no reason. I believe the detective was originally cast as the Terminator until they decided to have Arnold do it instead.

he really does look a lot like Arnie. quite freaky that they're both from Austria as well lol

I think he could.

Does anybody else think that Vin Diesel would be a good Terminator? Or am i the only one? He is supposed to be a macine after all so he doesnt have to be a good actor.

Yeah I'd have preferred him over the TX actually.

No one can ever replace an original. Even if he looks like Arnold, he simply isn't Arnold; therefore it's not the same. Interchaning actors for a lead role is only excusable in large franchises. Or in Harry Potter 3 because that other guy died.

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Something pervy about that pic.

Originally posted by barand1
Something pervy about that pic.

It's because of what he's saying during that scene,

The only reason I used it though is because it's the only moment in the film in which Roland has the same wardrobe/plus hair style and they re-inact something straight from Arnie's "Pumping Iron".

He looks very homosexual in that pic. Which is off putting.

If you say so,

Another:

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This guy has nothing on Arnold!

He's the only person I know who bears any resemblance to Arnold, something very rare. Physically, voice, his background, etc.

Don't you think he'd be great in a Conan film as King Conan's (Arnie) son? Or an alternate T-850 model in T4?

Is he from Austria too?

LOL yup, he's from Austria. Freaky stuff that is.

He'd make a good son to Conan, though I'm not too sure about him being Arnold's replacement for T4. He could be a T850 with a different skin. That'd be good.

Can this guy act? I know some say Arnold can't, but over the years I think he has improved a lot. Better some 'professional' actors.

Originally posted by barand1
Can this guy act? I know some say Arnold can't, but over the years I think he has improved a lot. Better some 'professional' actors.

I haven't seen all his films, however based on what I saw in "See Arnold Run", he isn't too bad an actor.

Originally posted by TMACalicious
LOL yup, he's from Austria. Freaky stuff that is.

He'd make a good son to Conan, though I'm not too sure about him being Arnold's replacement for T4. He could be a T850 with a different skin. That'd be good.

I agree, he could definitely play a new skin. In T1 Arnold's long time friend and fellow bodybuilder Franco Colombu played a different skin in that flashback scene that Reese had. Seeing as he already looks much like Arnie, it wouldn't be such a stretch.

If Roland were replacing a Terminator 1 looking Arnold back in the day then it might have been a different case.

And yeah off-topic, but I can easily see him playing the son of King Conan with Arnie playing an more aged version which would be the best direction to take with another live-action film I believe. The last Conan left so much to the imagination at the end when Arnie was sitting on the throne-Too bad this flick only exists in a fanboy's dream lol.

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True. WB have already said that they are started fresh with the Conan films. One is already in development! So no Arnold.

Your right, makes me wonder "what if"


The Return of Conan the Barbarian
Source: Warner Bros. Pictures
June 15, 2006

Warner Bros. Pictures has commissioned Boaz Yakin ("The Rookie," "Remember the Titans" to write the script for a motion picture based on the character Conan the Barbarian created by Robert E. Howard. The studio intends to ready the script for an early 2007 start.

"We are excited about working with Boaz and Paradox Entertainment to create what will be a successful and innovative series of motion pictures," said Jeff Robinov, President of Production, Warner Bros. Pictures.

The picture will be produced by Irving Azoff, Jon Jashni, Richard Alexander and Akiva Goldsman. The executive producers are Peter Sederowsky, President and CEO of Paradox Entertainment, and Fredrik Malmberg, Paradox Entertainment's Head of Licensing and Creative Affairs.

"Bringing Conan back to the big screen is an important goal for us. It's a thrill to be working alongside such talented people as Boaz, Jon, Akiva, and especially the executives at Warner Bros. in this major undertaking," added Sederowsky.

Red Sonya is being remade as well, http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=4176

I'm looking forward to this, it should be good !

Would this mean another edition of Arnold's Conan films on DVD when this one gets released? What is the betting? What IS the betting?

Nope he's just a body builder nothign special, Arnie made the terminator films for me without him then they shouldn';t do them or just inlcude a war of the silver robots vs the last remaining humans.

Originally posted by vvvrulz
I'm looking forward to this, it should be good !

As long as the casting is properly done...it should be exciting to watch Conan on the silver screen like never before

Originally posted by barand1
Would this mean another edition of Arnold's Conan films on DVD when this one gets released? What is the betting? What IS the betting?

It certainly would....

Superman Returns was released this year and now all Christopher Reeve Superman films are being re-released on to DVD later this year including a never before released version of Superman II. It's safe to say we'll be seeing a three or four disc set of Arnie's Conan films being released along the same time as the big screen addition and likely with deleted scenes we haven't seen before.