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We all know that Dooku could defeat Obi-Wan and Anakin but neither of them were as trained in the force then Qui-Gon Jinn. So would Dooku be able to defeat Qui-Gon and ROTS Obi-Wan easily, harder then Obi & Anakin, or get defeated?

Count Dooku dominates this fight with a Martini balancing on his head.


1. He can kick Obi's ass. We all know this.

2. He was Qui Gon's master. He probably knows him inside out.

Dooku wouldn't even use Makashi to win this fight...

but he could if he wanted to

Originally posted by DarthMaul9123
but he could if he wanted to


Bah, he wouldn't put shame to using such a skillful and respected form against two goofy Jedi.

Dooku:Hmmm....Someone, no wait, to pepole are coming. I should bust out Makashi on them! No wait. It's them. Crapakashi will be the more fitting choice.

Get my drift. Dooku wastes them.

No way, Qui-Gon is said to rival Mace Windu and Obi-Wan beat Vader. Dooku would put up a good fight but ultimately get owned.

Why do people underestimate Qui-Gon Jinn.

Qui-Gon is heavily underrated because he lost to Maul, even though the novelization reiterates several times that Maul was using the force extremely well.

Still, Qui-Gon is the apprentice to Dooku, he'd likely know everything his form IV would pull, and against two lightsaber duelist, he is right at home with his lightsaber technique. ROTS Obi-Wan fell to Dooku extremely quickly, so I would hesitate to believe Dooku would simply waste both of them while sipping a martini, though I do believe he'd make pretty short work out of the two of them.

Yes but Qui-Gon is clearly equal to or better in the Force then Dooku. Out of all the Jedi he was the only one to learn the path to immotality and that has to mean he was more focused in the force then any other Jedi.

Originally posted by ESB-1138
Yes but Qui-Gon is clearly equal to or better in the Force then Dooku. Out of all the Jedi he was the only one to learn the path to immotality and that has to mean he was more focused in the force then any other Jedi.


The Path to immotality isn't gonna boost your force points up. Qui Gon is extremely smart and filled with knowledge, but Dooku is an extremely highly praised Lightsaber duelist who has literally mastered the bloody form. Dooku is also very intelligent and he was a charasmatic famous Jedi.

Dooku is just the better Force User and Duelist. Dooku has more experience and he knows Qui Gon inside out, being his Master/Former Master.

And Obi Wan against Dooku? Out of the question.

Dooku walks out on top. Qui Gon is good, but Dooku is just flat out better.

Qui-gon even tells Obi-wan that he will become much better than him. Obi-wan was wasted by Dooku so Qui-gon probably will be also.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Qui-gon even tells Obi-wan that he will become much better than him. Obi-wan was wasted by Dooku so Qui-gon probably will be also.

Correct.

i say dooku knows quigon and quigon trained obiwan so i say dooku PWN them all

Dooku would pwn these two.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Qui-gon even tells Obi-wan that he will become much better than him. Obi-wan was wasted by Dooku so Qui-gon probably will be also.

I only rememberd him saying "you are a much wiser man than I am" not stronger. Does he say that anywhere else? I don't remember that.

I say old thread, been done before.

Originally posted by kamikz
I only rememberd him saying "you are a much wiser man than I am" not stronger. Does he say that anywhere else? I don't remember that.

It was something like "I forsee you becoming a much greater Jedi than I."

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
It was something like "I forsee you becoming a much greater Jedi than I."

Certainly a more important jedi, especially given the circumstances with the Clone Wars and training two Skywalkers. But I don't recall him explaining explicitly that he would be more powerful. And as it was mentioned, it was said Qui-Gon rivaled Mace Windu. I think Qui-Gon is consistently underrated by the individuals who underrate Maul because he was defeated by Obi Wan.

Dooku would win this, but if anything, the SW universe has its share of inconsistency.

Obi-wan rivals Mace also. Qui-gon is good, but not enough to turn the tide.

QGJ is said to have been great in his prime which could rival the Mace that existed 13 years before ROTS. There is no way QGJ would rival the ROTS Mace, just no way. ROTS Mace would wipe the floor with Maul.

Just to add it:

QUI-GON : "You have been a good apprentice. You are much wiser than I am, Obi-Wan. I foresee you will become a great Jedi Knight."