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In Limbo.


If Magik wins, classic Odin is next, followed by White Crown Phoenix, followed by Galactus, followed by Lord Morpheus.



Basically looking at what level Magik is at in limbo.

Hela is the boss of Dani, and Dani is the boss of Yana. By making the very natural assumption that "being someone's superior" is a transitive relation we can conclude that Hela could simply order Yana to stand down.

Hela wins.

Originally posted by Magnon
Hela is the boss of Dani, and Dani is the boss of Yana. By making the very natural assumption that "being someone's superior" is a transitive relation we can conclude that Hela could simply order Yana to stand down.

Hela wins.


How did that work out for Malebolgia being Spawns boss?

Lets say she rebelled.

Dani is /was Ilyana's boss?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Dani is /was Ilyana's boss?
Yeah, originally Dani and Sam were co-leaders of New Mutants. At some point, Sam resigned which left Dani as the sole leader.

Oh that. Yeah that wouldn't fly with Yana. I thought there was something new with Dani


As for the thread, my money's on Magik, considering how worried Hela and the other Hell Lords were with her.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh that. Yeah that wouldn't fly with Yana. I thought there was something new with Dani


As for the thread, my money's on Magik, considering how worried Hela and the other Hell Lords were with her.
Yeah, Magik for me too. Look what a pretender to her throne (Amanda Sefton) with the Soulsword did in Mephisto's realm :
https://i.postimg.cc/HVFWJGHr/3079698-2983494-x-men-magik-02-0030.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/Hr5YXSsB/3079694-2983495-x-men-magik-02-0031.jpg

Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah, Magik for me too. Look what a pretender to her throne (Amanda Sefton) with the Soulsword did in Mephisto's realm :
https://i.postimg.cc/HVFWJGHr/3079698-2983494-x-men-magik-02-0030.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/Hr5YXSsB/3079694-2983495-x-men-magik-02-0031.jpg


I was afraid of that.


X characters exist to make other awesome characters less awesome.

Asgardian retards get one-shotted on this forum.

And in comics, too:

https://i.ibb.co/tzyZPxn/magik.png

Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah, Magik for me too. Look what a pretender to her throne (Amanda Sefton) with the Soulsword did in Mephisto's realm :
https://i.postimg.cc/HVFWJGHr/3079698-2983494-x-men-magik-02-0030.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/Hr5YXSsB/3079694-2983495-x-men-magik-02-0031.jpg

Plus didn't she beat Dormammu?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Plus didn't she beat Dormammu?
Yup. But I don't remember if it was Illyana or Amanda.

Yeah, it was Ilyana, the second time Dormammu prepped for her too.

Magik is overrated

Originally posted by carver9
Magik is overrated

Not if inferior Ilyana can beat Dormammu. That means she can too.

Originally posted by carver9
Magik is overrated

Why so?

cause mutants are overwanked everywhere

Originally posted by cdtm
Not if inferior Ilyana can beat Dormammu. That means she can too.

We don't share fts.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why so?

Because I debated with someone who said she can beat Superman (and she cant) and then this same person is saying she can beat Hela. She's low Herald at best.

Originally posted by carver9
Because I debated with someone who said she can beat Superman (and she cant) and then this same person is saying she can beat Hela. She's low Herald at best. Not when she has full control of Limbo

Some Illyana cutscenes from the Midnight Suns game:

https://youtu.be/stcq32ZzcDI?t=228
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkgUslMlxgg&t=180s
https://youtu.be/_hZxeVXKdr8?t=138

She OP.

Yeah. With full Limbo powers she beat Dormammu who had prep. Showings don't lie, writers take power levels into account.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/e6/89/bfe6896bcb8a0d27d6ceae523cdc6d8e.jpg

She's also grown more skilled since then. Dr Strange has been training her in magic.

Originally posted by carver9
We don't share fts.

It was Ilyana who beat Dormammu. I don't know what cdtm is on about. If you don't know who she is, educate yourself.

Dormammu literally on his knees, begging for mercy:

https://i.postimg.cc/Tpmt2Q9t/RCO012-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/18rMwtb6/RCO013-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/3WzLHzgy/RCO014.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/hXBpXxZc/RCO017.jpg

The first time Dormammu tried (yes, she beat him on two separate occasions):

https://i.postimg.cc/F7g0n6GX/RCO007-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/R6HH1pq8/RCO008-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/CZt8qpMk/RCO009-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/gxg8G6fM/RCO010-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Mn61kYrM/RCO011-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/sB1Sxgz3/RCO012-2.jpg

Originally posted by Smurph
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/e6/89/bfe6896bcb8a0d27d6ceae523cdc6d8e.jpg

Key words here "in her Limbo".

Magik rapes Dormammu and Belasco, Wolverine one-shots The Beast and crucifies Marduk Kurios...

Hey, no wonder X-Men can't stay dead

No hell-lord wants them. Pact with Cyttorak annulled in a second. Mephisto failed, too.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The first time Dormammu tried (yes, she beat him on two separate occasions):

https://i.postimg.cc/F7g0n6GX/RCO007-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/R6HH1pq8/RCO008-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/CZt8qpMk/RCO009-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/gxg8G6fM/RCO010-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Mn61kYrM/RCO011-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/sB1Sxgz3/RCO012-2.jpg

🤦🏿

Originally posted by carver9
Key words here "in her Limbo".

What does OP say?

I just want you to know she isn't anything outside of her limbo.

Originally posted by carver9
I just want you to know she isn't anything outside of her limbo.

Lmao you just read it, haven't you?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Dormammu literally on his knees, begging for mercy:

https://i.postimg.cc/Tpmt2Q9t/RCO012-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/18rMwtb6/RCO013-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/3WzLHzgy/RCO014.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/hXBpXxZc/RCO017.jpg

So Limbo is part of her now. Interesting.

Disgusting. Even Destiny in his place of power is nothing to Michael, but X-freaks are nothing if not walking no limits falicy's.

Low showing for Dormammu.

Originally posted by carver9
Low showing for Dormammu.

Writers take power levels into account when writing fight scenes.

I know what you're doing but I never said low showings doesn't exist. I did mention consistency though

Originally posted by carver9
I know what you're doing but I never said low showings doesn't exist. I did mention consistency though

Consistently, Magik in Limbo has owned magical entities. Mephisto, Belasco, Dormammu, Cytorrak, Enchantress....I think she killed Archenemy, need to reread that.

Outside of it, she was beating Legion (not magical, I know) and she tore the Gem of Cytorrak out of Juggernaut and crushed it casually in one hand.

All this is with a pretty niche minor character.

Edit:. Here we go. Not even in Limbo at the time. An Onslaught worthy feat

https://i.postimg.cc/sQWr4qSt/magik-destroys-the-gem-of-cyttorak-3-e1562807211227.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/rd3TWMd1/magik-destroys-the-gem-of-cyttorak-4.jpg

I hate her most of all for destroying the last bit of Juggernaut cool factor.

Originally posted by carver9
Low showing for Dormammu.

Both showings?

Carvy, hello!

Originally posted by cdtm
In Limbo.

If Magik wins, classic Odin is next, followed by White Crown Phoenix, followed by Galactus, followed by Lord Morpheus.

Basically looking at what level Magik is at in limbo. Can't see Hela defeating her. while she's in her place of power, Limbo. Even while Hela had a bunch of impressive feats in her guest appearances of Guardians of the Galaxy.

Not sure Odin could defeat her in Limbo either.

Beyond that, possibly. Galactus, I'd give the surest shot since he directly took on Mephisto in his realm.

yet somehow, Carvster thinks she's overrated.

Originally posted by carver9
Magik is overrated

Is she now....

She's still overrated.

Originally posted by ODG
Can't see Hela defeating her. while she's in her place of power, Limbo. Even while Hela had a bunch of impressive feats in her guest appearances of Guardians of the Galaxy.

Not sure Odin could defeat her in Limbo either.

Beyond that, possibly. Galactus, I'd give the surest shot since he directly took on Mephisto in his realm.

Take ODG down a peg or two. This fool thinks Odin can't do it, and Big G is only 'possible'.

Originally posted by carver9
She's still overrated.

She can hit with the force of supernovas.

Naah, I'm not responding to ODG. Also, one showing doesn't dictate a characters history. Especially when beings like Spiderman has survived an explosion from the UN, withstood a beating from the Phoenix Five and outright thrashed Heralds. Amazing ft for her, though, but we need a collection of showings.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, I'm not responding to ODG. Also, one showing doesn't dictate a characters history. Especially when beings like Spiderman has survived an explosion from the UN, withstood a beating from the Phoenix Five and outright thrashed Heralds. Amazing ft for her, though, but we need a collection of showings.

Only one showing?
And why not respond? He's overrating her no? Not even I said Odin....

Look at what Amanda Sefton, using Magik's Soul Sword, did to Mephisto in his realm :
https://i.postimg.cc/94Z15MRx/image.jpg
I think she'd beat Hela in or out of Hel.

OP put the fight in Limbo lol. Her place of power

Carv, still after that collection of showings?

We have two fights against Dormmamu, 2 showings against Cyttorak so far - am sure thre are more.

in limbo she beats odin i think, let alone hela. pretty sure limbo was considered to be above the splinter realms, of which hel is just one. that sword would eat hela. phoenix is tough to say--not enough solid showings to decide one way or the other and it's really hard to say what that sword would do to the phoenix entity itself since it isn't magical. galactus would beat her--or eat limbo. amounts to the same thing.

She's not currently the ruler of Limbo right? I thought it was still Madelyne Pryor. Unless I missed Magik taking back her title.

Obviously this thread was made back before she gave up the throne. But I don't think Limbo gave her any extra help for that "force of a supernova" feat.

It's still Madelyne, but no, Limbo didn't help her - shitty comic writing did.

yeah i'm assuming the thread was meant to be while she was the ruler.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, I'm not responding to ODG. Also, one showing doesn't dictate a characters history. Especially when beings like Spiderman has survived an explosion from the UN, withstood a beating from the Phoenix Five and outright thrashed Heralds. Amazing ft for her, though, but we need a collection of showings.

It does dictate a character's history when it suits you.

And you compared a character with hundreds if not thousands of appearances to a minor character, to argue "one showing doesn't dictate a character's history."

Even now she can still call upon the demons to help her fight.