Weakest person that can beat Toji (Jujutsu)

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carver9
All of his fts are acceptable here, inlcuding anime. He gets all of his weapons.

No gimmicks, no bfr, no TP. Who is the weakest person that can physically beat/overpower Toji.

Senor Cage
Batman?

carver9
Lmmfao

DarkSaint85
He's not wrong.

MrMind
this girl

https://i.ibb.co/h7JpVRq/71-WNw7-WMah-L-AC-UF1000-1000-QL80.jpg

her swords are too sharp for him

Thinkerer
Who the **** is Toji.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's not wrong.

He is wrong.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
He is wrong.

Batman has kept up with Zoom and Flash, with Wonder Woman. He is fast.

He has taken attacks from Damage, a top tier in DC. He is durable.

He has the pressure point attacks.

All this from scaling. If Hulk can scale off Cho, then Batman can scale off his opponents.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He has taken attacks from Damage, a top tier in DC. He is durable.

Forget dmg.

You should've mentioned TITAN SUPER GLADIATOR!!!

Parmaniac
Darkseid

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman has kept up with Zoom and Flash, with Wonder Woman. He is fast.

He has taken attacks from Damage, a top tier in DC. He is durable.

He has the pressure point attacks.

All this from scaling. If Hulk can scale off Cho, then Batman can scale off his opponents.

You're trolling.

carver9
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Darkseid

Best answer I've seen so far.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
You're trolling.

Oh? Trolling by using your own logic and arguments?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh? Trolling by using your own logic and arguments?

All I said was, Cho admitted he isn't as strong as the original Hulk. I also mentioned Cho having Hulks power. Each one of these are true. How can someone who admitted not being able to use Hulk power as good as Banner be stronger than the original? Hulk>>>>Cho Hulk. Answer this, Captain Marvel stopped a spinning moon with his bare hands. Can Black Adam or Supermqn achieve the same ft?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
All I said was, Cho admitted he isn't as strong as the original Hulk. I also mentioned Cho having Hulks power. Each one of these are true. How can someone who admitted not being able to use Hulk power as good as Banner be stronger than the original? Hulk>>>>Cho Hulk. Answer this, Captain Marvel stopped a spinning moon with his bare hands. Can Black Adam or Supermqn achieve the same ft?

So you have no proof, just head canon? It's ok if you're relying on statements, although I thought you didn't? Such double standards.

All of my statements were also true. Has Batman taken hits from Wonder Woman, from Damage (a top tier, according to you)? Yes or no? Has he tagged Flash and Zoom, top tier speedsters who have better speed feats than Toji, yes or no?

NemeBro
So is carver just being retarded like he often is with anime characters or is this character even worth a shit compared to other settings?

Because other versus sites have this dude capped at like small town level. And looking at his powerset he doesn't even have any particularly broken abilities like your average Stand user in Jojo.

So I'm thinking if that's true he indeed gets folded by Batman. thumb up

MrMind
Originally posted by NemeBro
So is carver just being retarded like he often is with anime characters or is this character even worth a shit compared to other settings?

Because other versus sites have this dude capped at like small town level. And looking at his powerset he doesn't even have any particularly broken abilities like your average Stand user in Jojo.

So I'm thinking if that's true he indeed gets folded by Batman. thumb up

carver is a moron

toji is not the most powerful in jujutsu kaisen and jjk is not a particularly strong verse (although it's really good anime you should watch it)

toji would shit stomp slow moving brick like hulk but lose to meta tier in dc

NemeBro
Originally posted by MrMind
carver is a moron

toji is not the most powerful in jujutsu kaisen and jjk is not a particularly strong verse (although it's really good anime you should watch it)

toji would shit stomp slow moving brick like hulk but lose to meta tier in dc Toji would break every bone in his body punching Hulk if everything I read about him is true.

carver9
Originally posted by MrMind
carver is a moron

toji is not the most powerful in jujutsu kaisen and jjk is not a particularly strong verse (although it's really good anime you should watch it)

toji would shit stomp slow moving brick like hulk but lose to meta tier in dc

How is he not powerful when he stomped Gojo in their first fight? You're trolling. Then he beat an elite monster that was wrecking high tier heroes.

carver9
Originally posted by NemeBro
So is carver just being retarded like he often is with anime characters or is this character even worth a shit compared to other settings?

Because other versus sites have this dude capped at like small town level. And looking at his powerset he doesn't even have any particularly broken abilities like your average Stand user in Jojo.

So I'm thinking if that's true he indeed gets folded by Batman. thumb up

Or you're doing your usual and capping anime characters. Why do you always show up here when an anime thread is made? I thought you said you were done responding to my posts or anything I make? Stick by your words.

MrMind
Originally posted by NemeBro
Toji would break every bone in his body punching Hulk if everything I read about him is true.

the point of dealing with a troll like carver is to let him know every anime character he brings up in his peanut brain of his will wipe the floor with his beloved hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
How is he not powerful when he stomped Gojo in their first fight? You're trolling. Then he beat an elite monster that was wrecking high tier heroes.

why are you such a moron, re-read my quote. that's not what im saying

i said "he's not the most powerful in jujutsu kaisen"

if you are contending with that quote. I will gladly wipe the floor with you in a battlezone.

carver9
Originally posted by MrMind
the point of dealing with a troll like carver is to let him know every anime character he brings up in his peanut brain of his will wipe the floor with his beloved hulk.



why are you such a moron, re-read my quote. that's not what im saying

i said "he's not the most powerful in jujutsu kaisen"

if you are contending with that quote. I will gladly wipe the floor with you in a battlezone.

Where in my opening did I say anything about him being the most powerful? Or anywhere close to it. That's the point of the thread. He's far away from being the most powerful, but you all are still having a hard time answering the opening question. This guy is kicking diesels around with ease, throwing big a** trucks across the city and moving so fast that he is appearing as a ghost, like he's teleporting, but you want to call him weak. His durability, strength, speed, and weapons puts him pretty freaking high in a DC Marvel tier list.

MrMind
yeah, like nemesis with creation blades level

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you have no proof, just head canon? It's ok if you're relying on statements, although I thought you didn't? Such double standards.

All of my statements were also true. Has Batman taken hits from Wonder Woman, from Damage (a top tier, according to you)? Yes or no? Has he tagged Flash and Zoom, top tier speedsters who have better speed feats than Toji, yes or no?

Stick to your words.

Are you using statements? Has Batman not faced down elite tier opponents?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Where in my opening did I say anything about him being the most powerful? Or anywhere close to it. That's the point of the thread. He's far away from being the most powerful, but you all are still having a hard time answering the opening question. This guy is kicking diesels around with ease, throwing big a** trucks across the city and moving so fast that he is appearing as a ghost, like he's teleporting, but you want to call him weak. His durability, strength, speed, and weapons puts him pretty freaking high in a DC Marvel tier list.

I'm not having a difficult time answering the question.

Flash is faster than speed (lol), faster than his own shadow, faster than thought - Batman still punches him.

Zoom speedblitzes speedsters - that's way better than 'appearing as a ghost' (lol) - Batman still stabs him.

Kicks trucks? Lol. Wonder Woman pulls the Sun (hehe) - Batman takes her punches just fine.

Damage is a top tier guy who wastes the JL (including Flash and WW) - Batman still dances around him, and when he does get hit, he just gets some broken ribs.

All happening in canon comics.

StiltmanFTW
You forgot about him being faster than instant teleportation.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You forgot about him being faster than instant teleportation.

Nah Wally was amped when he did that; I don't want to make Batman too OP.

You know, the guy everyone in DC acknowledges always wins, lol.

MrMind
hey carver you ever gonna post some scans and make an argument for once?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nah Wally was amped when he did that; I don't want to make Batman too OP.

You know, the guy everyone in DC acknowledges always wins, lol.

Amped, okay, but he's also grown much more powerful since then, right?

DarkSaint85
Wally is Wally thumb up but yeah, you're right. Running across the Multiverse was an insane feat, casually jumping across dimensions etc he's collected quite a few feats in the last five years or so.

Only to get kicked in the face by Catwoman lol.

StiltmanFTW
I am Batman. You are Bane.

But she is Catwoman!!!!! ZOMG RUN FOR YOUR LIVES AAAARGH *rip*

- Tom King

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm not having a difficult time answering the question.

Flash is faster than speed (lol), faster than his own shadow, faster than thought - Batman still punches him.

Zoom speedblitzes speedsters - that's way better than 'appearing as a ghost' (lol) - Batman still stabs him.

Kicks trucks? Lol. Wonder Woman pulls the Sun (hehe) - Batman takes her punches just fine.

Damage is a top tier guy who wastes the JL (including Flash and WW) - Batman still dances around him, and when he does get hit, he just gets some broken ribs.

All happening in canon comics.

Seems like Batman is a trans tier plus character. Faster than Zoom, as strong as Wonder Woman, tanking Damage punches when Superman couldn't. If he's the weakest you can name, then I'm ok with that, lol. Takes someone above the main members of the JLA to beat Toji, lol.

carver9
Originally posted by MrMind
hey carver you ever gonna post some scans and make an argument for once?

Who do you think can beat him (the weakest)? I'll post scans proving otherwise.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Stick to your words.

Are you using statements? Has Batman not faced down elite tier opponents?

I'm using facts. If character A beats character B and both possess the same powers, character A should be stronger. Can Titus give Hulk a fight, yes or no? Make sure you think about this question.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Seems like Batman is a trans tier plus character. Faster than Zoom, as strong as Wonder Woman, tanking Damage punches when Superman couldn't. If he's the weakest you can name, then I'm ok with that, lol. Takes someone above the main members of the JLA to beat Toji, lol.

He IS peak human, just like Toji, so it all evens out thumb up

So yeah, Batman wins.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm using facts. If character A beats character B and both possess the same powers, character A should be stronger. Can Titus give Hulk a fight, yes or no? Make sure you think about this question.

This shows ignorance of comics, tbh. It ignores character, mindset, context, the whole shebang. Is it not a fact that a snake choked Hulk out in a canon comic? A snake posseses strength (certainly stronger than a human). So does the Hulk.

Using your logic, a python is stronger than Hulk. Good logic.

Using facts - did Batman stab Zoom? Has he tagged Flash? Whilst injured and without armour, did he fight a bloodlusted, amped WW who sucker punched him?

Facts facts facts.

MrMind
imagine how incompetent carver debating skill is that he can't even prove Toji can beat batman.

reminded me of hulk running the jla gauntlet thread and carver couldn't for the life of him proving hulk can beat mera or cyborg


Originally posted by carver9
I'm using facts. If character A beats character B and both possess the same powers, character A should be stronger. Can Titus give Hulk a fight, yes or no? Make sure you think about this question.

but you never do in 20 years of being here. you never post any scans that worthwhile, you just deflect deflect, then disappear when get proven wrong. and when the guys done whooping your ass, you jump up with the same crap again after a week hoping people have forgotten your embarrassment.

DarkSaint85
Cyborg busts out his million decibel white noise cannon and obliterates Toji.

I, without reading any of the manga or ever watching any of the anime, am 100% confident Toji is unable to take such an attack.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He IS peak human, just like Toji, so it all evens out thumb up

So yeah, Batman wins.



This shows ignorance of comics, tbh. It ignores character, mindset, context, the whole shebang. Is it not a fact that a snake choked Hulk out in a canon comic? A snake posseses strength (certainly stronger than a human). So does the Hulk.

Using your logic, a python is stronger than Hulk. Good logic.

Using facts - did Batman stab Zoom? Has he tagged Flash? Whilst injured and without armour, did he fight a bloodlusted, amped WW who sucker punched him?

Facts facts facts.

Can Titus beat Hulk, yes or no?

Naah, Batman can't be peak human if he is faster than Zoom and can withstand punches that has knocked Superman for a loop. Maybe we look at peak human different. He's either trans tier or not.

carver9
Originally posted by MrMind
imagine how incompetent carver debating skill is that he can't even prove Toji can beat batman.

reminded me of hulk running the jla gauntlet thread and carver couldn't for the life of him proving hulk can beat mera or cyborg




but you never do in 20 years of being here. you never post any scans that worthwhile, you just deflect deflect, then disappear when get proven wrong. and when the guys done whooping your ass, you jump up with the same crap again after a week hoping people have forgotten your embarrassment.

So you have nothing??? Gotcha. Stop wasting my time.

carver9
Toji vs Gojo

/T3in1O6FLf8?si=qAzxk-6uTKEZSJ3Y

carver9
Toji vs Fushi

/BoY9o-9DT3Y?si=W5Ka6n2vZGRFmabv

carver9
Toji vs Dagon

/k18gSPjWDM0?si=-7nJIaI-Q5dbm8Is

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Can Titus beat Hulk, yes or no?

Naah, Batman can't be peak human if he is faster than Zoom and can withstand punches that has knocked Superman for a loop. Maybe we look at peak human different. He's either trans tier or not.

So you think Toji is peak human too? Based on your pretty videos?

Like it or not, he's human, no powers. If you want to compare comics to anime, then you should be consistent and equal in looking at both.

Both Toji and Bruce are human with no powers and fancy toys. Bruce just has better feats than Toji.

Batman wins. Good thread.

carver9
Never seen a human slap something that weighs hundreds of tons creating a mini tsunami after the hit. I've never seen a human move so fast that he covers a large distance before someone could fully turn around, move like a ghost. I've never seen a human get knocked through building unscathed or toss trucks with ease. I've never seen a human move so fast that the world around him is still, statue like, while performing tasks at super speed. Never seen a human run at super speed on top of water, moving so fast that he's able to run on water. I've also never seen a human outright destroy a a God, in his dimension, casually, or human moving faster than Gojo could see. What kind of peak humans are we talking about here?

carver9
Can Batman casually slap something as big as skyscrapers, casually creating shockwaves that starts a tidal wave? Scans please.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Never seen a human slap something that weighs hundreds of tons creating a mini tsunami after the hit. I've never seen a human move so fast that he covers a large distance before someone could fully turn around, move like a ghost. I've never seen a human get knocked through building unscathed or toss trucks with ease. I've never seen a human move so fast that the world around him is still, statue like, while performing tasks at super speed. Never seen a human run at super speed on top of water, moving so fast that he's able to run on water. I've also never seen a human outright destroy a a God, in his dimension, casually, or human moving faster than Gojo could see. What kind of peak humans are we talking about here?

So please educate me.

What is the source of Toji's powers? Is he a Sorceror too? Is it tech? Please, tell me.

Originally posted by carver9
Can Batman casually slap something as big as skyscrapers, casually creating shockwaves that starts a tidal wave? Scans please.

Why does he need to? WW can do that, I am sure (she pulls Suns, does she not?) Batman can fight her just fine.

Karate Kid can do that. Batman fights him just fine.

You logic and arguemnts are just terrible, man. Superman can do all that - Batman casually disappears and can sneak up on him. Literally laughing here.

Senor Cage
Originally posted by carver9
Toji vs Fushi

/BoY9o-9DT3Y?si=W5Ka6n2vZGRFmabv

He seems Black Canary level

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Senor Cage
He seems Black Canary level

Carver is seduced by pretty videos. But he shouldn't just look at the videos which are moving scenes, and somehow say 'this is beyond meta tier '.

Running on water, for example - looks super impressive. But it only needs a speed of 80km/hr:

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/how-fast-would-someone-have-to-go-to-run-on-water

That's nothing in comics. But if it's shown in an anime - OMG, SUPERSPEED!

Of course, I'm not capping it at 80 km/hr (or 50mph). I'm just saying, it isn't necessarily that impressive in terms of fictional characters and superheroes/villains.

carver9
I can tell you didn't look at anything I posted. Lol at 50 mph

MrMind
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver is seduced by pretty videos. But he shouldn't just look at the videos which are moving scenes, and somehow say 'this is beyond meta tier '.

Running on water, for example - looks super impressive. But it only needs a speed of 80km/hr:

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/how-fast-would-someone-have-to-go-to-run-on-water

That's nothing in comics. But if it's shown in an anime - OMG, SUPERSPEED!

Of course, I'm not capping it at 80 km/hr (or 50mph). I'm just saying, it isn't necessarily that impressive in terms of fictional characters and superheroes/villains.

carver is the type of imbecile that would give naruto a win over superman and darkseid

he wanks anime hard

carver9
Originally posted by MrMind
carver is the type of imbecile that would give naruto a win over superman and darkseid

he wanks anime hard

Aren't you the same guy that said Batman could beat Toji H2H? Let's not act like your statements about any of this is credible.

carver9
Dark, you add nothing to my daily debating. Blocked.

MrMind
Originally posted by carver9
Aren't you the same guy that said Batman could beat Toji H2H? Let's not act like your statements about any of this is credible.

where did i say batman beat toji h2h

find me where i say that and I'll cashapp you 100 dollars
if you are lying, you send me 100 dollars.

MrMind
Originally posted by carver9
Dark, you add nothing to my daily debating. Blocked.

saint, this is what carver really mean, i think you hurt his feeling

https://media.tenor.com/ctO2QkhV05kAAAAC/crying-crying-meme.gif

carver9
Blocked Mr. Mind. 🤣

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
I can tell you didn't look at anything I posted. Lol at 50 mph

Well you're not reading my posts so why bother?

As I said, all one needs to run on water is a speed of 50mph. This is a minimum to run across water. It looks impressive, but it isn't necessarily so.

How is this wrong?

I'm not saying Toji is running at 50mph there, in case you were stupid enough to think that's what I said.

I am attacking your arguments, anyway, which so far are nonexistent.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Dark, you add nothing to my daily debating. Blocked.

You don't add to your own daily debating, tbh

MrMind
Originally posted by carver9
Aren't you the same guy that said Batman could beat Toji H2H? Let's not act like your statements about any of this is credible.

where did i say batman could beat him? find me the quote exactly where i say that?

carver, stop running away

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Never seen a human slap something that weighs hundreds of tons creating a mini tsunami after the hit. I've never seen a human move so fast that he covers a large distance before someone could fully turn around, move like a ghost. I've never seen a human get knocked through building unscathed or toss trucks with ease. I've never seen a human move so fast that the world around him is still, statue like, while performing tasks at super speed. Never seen a human run at super speed on top of water, moving so fast that he's able to run on water. I've also never seen a human outright destroy a a God, in his dimension, casually, or human moving faster than Gojo could see. What kind of peak humans are we talking about here?

Batman told a universe destroyer to go home, and it did.

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