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Neither side has prep. The Ultimates have no outside help. That means no crazy-ass armies/robots/helicarriers at their disposal. Just them. Neither side has ANY information about the opponent they are facing.

The Ultimates:

Captain America
Thor
Iron Man
Hulk
Black Widow (No Iron Maiden armour)
Hawkeye
Scarlet Witch
Quicksilver
The Wasp
Giant-Man

NOTE: ALL Marvel characters mentioned below are 616 versions.

Which of these following characters can defeat the Ultimates single-handedly?:

Iron Man
Thor (Normal)
Spider-Man
Booster Gold
Namor
Aquaman
Superman
The Thing
Invisible Woman
Wonder Woman
Storm
Colossus
Emma Frost
The Flash

Lets see...

Iron Man, Thor, Namor, Superman (duh, even you knew this Draco), Thing, Invisible Woman, Wonder Woman (just as bad as Superman), Colossus, Emma Frost, and Flash. That's just my opinion, of course.

Galaktus This is just a guess mind

Originally posted by Draco69
Neither side has prep. The Ultimates have no outside help. That means no crazy-ass armies/robots/helicarriers at their disposal. Just them. Neither side has ANY information about the opponent they are facing.

The Ultimates:

Captain America
Thor
Iron Man
Hulk
Black Widow (No Iron Maiden armour)
Hawkeye
Scarlet Witch
Quicksilver
The Wasp
Giant-Man

NOTE: ALL Marvel characters mentioned below are 616 versions.

Which of these following characters can defeat the Ultimates single-handedly?:

Iron Man
Thor (Normal)
Spider-Man
Booster Gold
Namor
Aquaman
Superman
The Thing
Invisible Woman
Wonder Woman
Storm
Colossus
Emma Frost
The Flash

You have Thor, Iron Man, and Hulk in there. Not to mention SW.

I don't see IM taking them down, Thor going against all of them would be brought down, SM...... .....i'm gonna get bashed for this....but ....no.
Namor is kickass.....i love him like i love pudding, but i've seen him get suckerpunched JUST by the Hulk.....not to mention everyone else on the team doing it at the same time.
Aquaman - same as above.
Superman ......i'd say has a moderate chance given that Hulk isn't savage Hulk. However, with Thor in there as a powerhouse, not to mention with his control of the elements....
I REALLY don't know what IW and Thing are doing in there....but i doubt they'd make it.
WW - is she carrying the Medusa head on her?
Storm and Colossus...........
Emma Frost - I .....don't know. Better to say that than say something really stupid.

The flash........personally, i think Flash is the only one that really stands a chance. Which Flash are we talking about btw?

~wickerman~

thors, supes, wonderwoman, invisible woman, flash

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
thors, supes, wonderwoman, invisible woman, flash

Thor would have to face himself + more.

Invisible woman? How Thor alone beat on the FF, including her.

Supes would have to face Thor AND everyone else, so i'm not sure if he could win.

WW - same as above.

~wickerman~

u realize that the ultimate heroes are weaker than their counterparts (except for cap)

iw can create an invisible forcefield in each of their brains and hearts and expand it rapidly. instant death

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
u realize that the ultimate heroes are weaker than their counterparts (except for cap)

iw can create an invisible forcefield in each of their brains and hearts and expand it rapidly. instant death

Yeah, they are, but they also have superior numbers.

And yeah, i keep hearing about that, but TBH, seeing as how i'm not that into FF, i've never actually seen her do that to anyone. got scans?

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
u realize that the ultimate heroes are weaker than their counterparts (except for cap)

iw can create an invisible forcefield in each of their brains and hearts and expand it rapidly. instant death

That isnt proven, I doubt regular Hulk could match Ultimate Hulk and there isnt nothing to prove that Ultimate Thor is any less powerful then regular Hulk.

Originally posted by superman302
That isnt proven, I doubt regular Hulk could match Ultimate Hulk and there isnt nothing to prove that Ultimate Thor is any less powerful then regular Hulk.

...your kinding right?

Yeah. The Ultimates are all MUCH weaker than their 616 counterparts. Some them are a pale shadow of their predecessors. Like Thor and Hulk.

Which is why I had this thread made.

I still think the Ultimates are resourcefull enough to beat any on that list...
i mean....c'mon......one versus ten???

Resourceful. Sure. When they have a multi-billion governmental empire backing them up.

But not in this thread.

how is any ONE character going to defeat these ten?

Strength. Speed. Durability. Yadda.

It's not about numbers. It's about power levels.

Like who? The Ultimates have all of the above.
Iron Man has neural scramblers.....these should at least stun anyone
applies them too.....not to mention Ultimate Thor's lightning....
Ultimate Hawkeye's deadly use of arrows (tactical nuke arrow-head)....
Ultimate Hulk's rage and insatiable hunger......etc, etc,

Originally posted by Zahit
Like who? The Ultimates have all of the above.
Iron Man has neural scramblers.....these should at least stun anyone
applies them too.....not to mention Ultimate Thor's lightning....
Ultimate Hawkeye's deadly use of arrows (tactical nuke arrow-head)....
Ultimate Hulk's rage and insatiable hunger......etc, etc,

You forgot Hulk's neverending need for sexual gratification. That'd put Aquaman in his place mighty face.

Iron Man's neural scramblers did nothing but annoy the Hulk and Thor.

Thor's lightening was very impressive...as artwork.

Ultimate Hawkeyes nuke arrows would be a threat. Too bad several characters on the list have already brushed of nukes with the best of them.

Ultimate Hulk's rage is about 15 tons max.

Can't personally see any of them doing it due to sheer numbers.

Superman at a stretch.

People. Come on. Sheer numbers? Who are the worst threats in the Ultimates?

Hulk.
Thor.
Iron Man.

The rest are cannonfodder. Now think of the above three's feats. Now think of the people on the list and what they can do.

Put fanboyishness aside please.

Thor
Superman
Wonder Woman
The Thing
Colossus
The Flash
Invisible Woman

Question: What are SW's power EXACTLY? She seems to have a non-descriptive power.

Ultimate Iron Man's neural scrambler made Ultimate Hulk drop and vomit.
He never got to use the neural scrambler on Ultimate Thor.
Stick to facts.
Ultimate Scarlet Witch recently disarmed a crap-load of nuclear missles.
Ultimate Hulk can most certainly lift more than 15 tons.
He tore through a tank dropped on him.
Tanks weigh a lot more than 15 tons.....more like 25 - 50 tons.

Originally posted by Zahit
Ultimate Iron Man's neural scrambler made Ultimate Hulk drop and vomit.

That's nice. Good luck hitting the Flash, Storm, Superman or WW with it. And that won't do much but ANNOY most of them. And some of them are immune.

Originally posted by Zahit
He never got to use the neural scrambler on Ultimate Thor.
Stick to facts.

Yes. He did. He used while Caps. Internationals held him down.

Originally posted by Zahit
Ultimate Scarlet Witch recently disarmed a crap-load of nuclear missles.

So she turned them off. So what? How will this help the Ultimates win.

Originally posted by Zahit
Ultimate Hulk can most certainly lift more than 15 tons.

Not according to Marvel.

Originally posted by Draco69
People. Come on. Sheer numbers? Who are the worst threats in the Ultimates?

Hulk.
Thor.
Iron Man.

The rest are cannonfodder. Now think of the above three's feats. Now think of the people on the list and what they can do.

Put fanboyishness aside please.

Don't quote me and mention the word 'fanboy' in the same comment please.

I don't think any of those would be successful because...I don't see it happening.

Originally posted by Draco69
Neither side has prep. The Ultimates have no outside help. That means no crazy-ass armies/robots/helicarriers at their disposal. Just them. Neither side has ANY information about the opponent they are facing.

The Ultimates:

Captain America
Thor
Iron Man
Hulk
Black Widow (No Iron Maiden armour)
Hawkeye
Scarlet Witch
Quicksilver
The Wasp
Giant-Man

NOTE: ALL Marvel characters mentioned below are 616 versions.

Which of these following characters can defeat the Ultimates single-handedly?:

Iron Man
Thor (Normal)
Spider-Man
Booster Gold
Namor
Aquaman
Superman
The Thing
Invisible Woman
Wonder Woman
Storm
Colossus
Emma Frost
The Flash

Thor (maybe), Superman thats about it. And the Flash potentionally (Speed Kills) No ones made that joke before.

About the Ultimate Strength Levels. The following are at least Level 6:

Iron Man, Captain Britain, Thor

This guy must be Level 7
: Hulk

Of course they lift more than their bios say. That also aplies to the 616 characters too. Doesn't mean much.

We'll know how strong Marvel thinks they are when the Ultimate universe handbook comes out Wednesday.

Originally posted by Ultimate Ion
Of course they lift more than their bios say. That also aplies to the 616 characters too. Doesn't mean much.

We'll know how strong Marvel thinks they are when the Ultimate universe handbook comes out Wednesday.

Yeh but its only doing the Spiderman FF4 bios. Apart from the Thing, I couldn't give a crap !!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Don't quote me and mention the word 'fanboy' in the same comment please.

I don't think any of those would be successful because...I don't see it happening.


HAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now thats emperical evidence

dude....superman can move continents.

ironman: i have an idea cap. ill make him vomit.
cap: thats not such a good idea
supes peels the suit off tony
cap: tony u must be pissed that suit cost over a billion dollars
tony: who cares, im dying anyways

the ultimates are weaker than the 616 world

read wizard. it helps.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
HAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now thats emperical evidence

dude....superman can move continents.

ironman: i have an idea cap. ill make him vomit.
cap: thats not such a good idea
supes peels the suit off tony
cap: tony u must be pissed that suit cost over a billion dollars
tony: who cares, im dying anyways

the ultimates are weaker than the 616 world

read wizard. it helps.

You could read Wizard, Or you could read some Ultimate comics. Both will give very different perspectives. I reckon the actual comics are probably more reliable.

the comics help too.

however, i dont think marvel would let wizard print anything that was a lie about their new prize fighters.
it would be a lawsuit waiting to happen

anyways....on with the show

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
the comics help too.

however, i dont think marvel would let wizard print anything that was a lie about their new prize fighters.
it would be a lawsuit waiting to happen

anyways....on with the show

Colossus = 14 tons, Oh cum on ????????????

im just saying, if it was totally wrong marvel wouldnt let them publish it. it would be libel


can u have libel over a fictional character?

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
HAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now thats emperical evidence

dude....superman can move continents.



Empirical?

No, it's not...it's my opinion, as are all hypothetical outcomes on here.

I said Superman would be the only one I personally see coming out on top.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
im just saying, if it was totally wrong marvel wouldnt let them publish it. it would be libel


can u have libel over a fictional character?

It depends what you mean. You could have libel in the sense of a fictional character mocking someone real. Not in the sense you suggest though.

Only a living human being can be a Claimant in a libel action.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
im just saying, if it was totally wrong marvel wouldnt let them publish it. it would be libel


can u have libel over a fictional character?

I know what you mean. Its kinda of a hard one (Oh yeh very funny)

Originally posted by yahman
Yeh but its only doing the Spiderman FF4 bios. Apart from the Thing, I couldn't give a crap !!!!!!!!!! Maybe but it will give us some sort of indicator for the rest of the Ultimate universe.

I still stand by my list.