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Now something came to my attention , galactus regularly kills hundreds/thousands/millions/ of people when he 'eats' a planet . Ghost riders penance stare affects those who cause pain onto the living , and big g seems to have caused a hell of a lot of pain to people . Therefore is it possible for ghost rider to beat galactus.

Yep. It happened in the Fantastic Four animated series.

Ghost Rider used Penance Stare and it caused MASSIVE pain/harm to Galactus. If the FF hadn't gone to his aid, he'd have died.

Can't really beat a "force of nature" like Galactus..at best..you can slow it down. The penance stare wouldn't do much to the Big G..except maybe give him a guilty conscience..Hell..even Madcap has fared pretty well after receiving the penance stare. I don't see anything else Ghost Rider could do to Galactus a side from the stare. If he's even able to pull the stare off..he better run like hell afterwards.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Can't really beat a "force of nature" like Galactus..at best..you can slow it down. The penance stare wouldn't do much to the Big G..except maybe give him a guilty conscience..Hell..even Madcap has fared pretty well after receiving the penance stare. I don't see anything else Ghost Rider could do to Galactus a side from the stare. If he's even able to pull the stare off..he better run like hell afterwards.

Run Like hell or call Wolverine

i dont think Galactus is truly alive' in teh strictest sense of the word. and i dont think cosmic beings of that magnitude have a soul to speak of either.


galactus may just see the penance stare as an vaguely effective magical attack. then he'd get annoyed. cause he has powers that can affect the soul.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Yep. It happened in the Fantastic Four animated series.

Ghost Rider used Penance Stare and it caused MASSIVE pain/harm to Galactus. If the FF hadn't gone to his aid, he'd have died.

Thats where i actually got the idea from , i tried to download that episode for the cameos but couldn't find it .

Well it was stated somewhere that galactus , unlike death and eternity was a corporal being and therefore can feel pain, emotional or otherwise.

It happend on the cartoon and in the comics, but instead of Ghostrider it was Dr.Strange in the comic and he used his own type of penance stare and took out Galactus.

It was FF #243, I think.

If he was vulnerable to Strange's penance stare, I don't see why he wouldn't be vulnerable to GhostRider's.

Ya know ghost rider doesn't get much of a look in , when it comes to cartoons he's had two cameos so far . Once in the hulk and once in the afore mentioned ff cartoon.

i fear marvel downplays galactus alot. no human or demon should be able to hurt him

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
i fear marvel downplays galactus alot. no human or demon should be able to hurt him

Except for those with phoenix force shifty.

Lol Sorry couldn't help myself.

Originally posted by yahman
Except for those with phoenix force shifty.

Lol Sorry couldn't help myself.

Originally posted by yahman
Except for those with phoenix force shifty.

Lol Sorry couldn't help myself.


including those with the phoenix force

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
including those with the phoenix force

Nahh.... really ?

I have a super villain wheel, Galactus is on that wheel as The Forces of Nature.

Forces of Nature are godly entities who play a part in the cosmic circle. They aren't really evil so much as they just are. It's a tough concept to wrap your head around, but they mean buisness. And fighting them is ussualy a useless endevure when you could be spending that energy on a more productive matter..

Originally posted by Spelljammer
I have a super villain wheel, Galactus is on that wheel as The Forces of Nature.

Forces of Nature are godly entities who play a part in the cosmic circle. They aren't really evil so much as they just are. It's a tough concept to wrap your head around, but they mean buisness. And fighting them is ussualy a useless endevure when you could be spending that energy on a more productive matter..

Dormammu would disagree with that.

Originally posted by Spelljammer
I have a super villain wheel, Galactus is on that wheel as The Forces of Nature.

Forces of Nature are godly entities who play a part in the cosmic circle. They aren't really evil so much as they just are. It's a tough concept to wrap your head around, but they mean buisness. And fighting them is ussualy a useless endevure when you could be spending that energy on a more productive matter..

he's no more a force of nature than i am..... or you are.... it just happens that where we eat chickens and cows and things , he eats planets.... now i'm sure the cow would prefer not to be eaten if given the choice, but we eat them for survival..... we don't have to eat animals to survive, just like Galactus doesn't have to eat planets with sentient lifeforms on them..... but they probably just taste better

no, galactus eats planets that can sustain life and usually those planets taht sustain life have life on them. so galactus has to destroy them to eat.

but he doesn't need to eat planets with sentient life forms on them.... and he bloody well knows that

u dont need to step on an anthill when u go on ur picnics, but if it happens on your walk to the picnic table, u dont lose any sleep over it.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
u dont need to step on an anthill when u go on ur picnics, but if it happens on your walk to the picnic table, u dont lose any sleep over it.

i normally go out of my way to avoid killing ants and other bug type things....

Pansy.

Originally posted by demigawd
Pansy.

Originally posted by Scoobless
he's no more a force of nature than i am..... or you are.... it just happens that where we eat chickens and cows and things , he eats planets.... now i'm sure the cow would prefer not to be eaten if given the choice, but we eat them for survival..... we don't have to eat animals to survive, just like Galactus doesn't have to eat planets with sentient lifeforms on them..... but they probably just taste better
As a who wants to become a nutrionist, I can tell you, you DO need meat. Infact, 1 out of 3 individuals probably need meat more then anything else where as the other 2 could easily live without it if exposed to enough plant foods and or multivitamins. But either way, I beleive I've made my point.

actually you can live without meat.... people do it all the time, there are one or two protiens that aren't present in most vegetarian foods but you can get them from specific non-meat sources

What a throbbing pussy Scoob is.

I need meat! Arrghhh.

Originally posted by long pig
What a throbbing pussy Scoob is.

I need meat! Arrghhh.

i will kick yo ass if there's anymore of the cheek beeatch!

So no haggis for Scoob?

Originally posted by long pig
So no haggis for Scoob?

lotsa haggis for the Scoob.... just cos i know that vegetarians can survive, doesn't mean i eat like one of those weirdos

if god wanted us to be vegetarians he wouldn't have made pigs out of bacon!

mmmmmmmmmmmm..........bacon

Originally posted by Scoobless
if god wanted us to be vegetarians he wouldn't have made pigs out of bacon!


Or bologna out of horses, dogs, and cats...

mmmmmm..... horse, dogs and cats....

hEY HEY HEY back on topic , or else no processed ham later ok

Originally posted by grey fox
hEY HEY HEY back on topic , or else no processed ham later ok I think we're getting alot of processed ham right now.

mmmmmmmm..... processed ham...

Real men eat haggis!

Seriously, you gotta have a massive pair of twins to even try it, but once ya do, there ain't no turning back.

Kinda like heroin.

Originally posted by Spelljammer
I have a super villain wheel, Galactus is on that wheel as The Forces of Nature.


Galactus is evil no doubt and he is affraid to die. If he wouldn't be evil, he wouldn't have killed billions and billions beings, but would prefer himself to die (forget force of nature, he is evil, and he is affraid to die). And human are also force of nature, humans are just what they are, evil, good. But there are human who have much, much greater soul and heart than Galactus (a cosmic being old as the universe itself, who doesn't have what humans have). But there are humans who are evil, if some human would get power of Galactus he could be much greater nightmare than Galactus is (look at Jean, Dark Phoenix, well there could even much greater threat in some other human with such power). And what would you tell than, he is just force of nature, yes he is, he is evil human who got power to live up to what he wants.
And God has given to humans chicken, pig... to eat (we have right to eat them), while Galactus doesn't have right to eat worlds with beings. And God has made humans completely eternal, something that Galactus may no be.

galactus is not evil. him killing ppl is like us stepping on an anthill

or putting detergent in the washing machine to kill the bacteria when clean our clothes

I know Ghostrider has the penance stare and everything but i dont think it would be enough ot beat galactus maybe make him open to attacks but thats all from what I think.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
Galactus is not evil. Him killing ppl is like us stepping on an anthill

or putting detergent in the washing machine to kill the bacteria when clean our clothes

Wow, how can you think that. You can't compare human to Galactus like a bacteria. Who has saved Galactus live once, FF, so actully humans. Who has defeated Galactus, yes, it was mutant. With which help was he brougt back to life, mutant right. Mutants are humans actully. They have both soul, but mutant soul isn't greater than human soul, they are equal, mutant is human. So bacterias have beat Galactus and bacteria brougth Galactus to life. Marvel ordinary human will also become humans with special power with evolution, but soul remains, doesn't change (Franklin is supposedly an early example of what Marvel human may become). So eventaully, humans will also surpass Galactus in power. So Marvel human were born with potential power greater than abstracts. Eventually Galactus will become bacteria compared to humans. And humans are forever, Galactus is not. He will perish for ever, human will not. Human who were born in 5000 BC or the one who were born yesterday, they are all forever, Galactus will be forever gone and his importance to the universe.
And Galactus is evil.

Galactus isn't evil. He does no more than what is necessary for his survival.

Hes just a self-centered, stubborn, Evil guy who doesnt care about no one but himself. So If you were to survive you would kill as many living beings as possible to live?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Galactus isn't evil. He does no more than what is necessary for his survival.

Yes, and with that killing so many sentient beings, who have soul and he doesn't care, only for himself=evil. Human are capable of sacryfying themselves for greater good, Galactus is not. Galactus was made in the universe for nothign good only for battle and killing inocent beings. For whom SS turned against Galactus, yes for humans. He saw that Galactus survival isn't more important than humans. And I think Galactus has no longer Earth beings for bacterias.
Galactus is evil=fact.

Originally posted by gamewarrior
So If you were to survive you would kill as many living beings as possible to live?

Excatly. Galactus will do that for himself=evil. He will never say no to that.

Life is a precious gift and galactus takes it and crushes it as if it a worthless grain of rice. The guy is E-V-I-L he doesnt care about nothing else besides his survival.

Humanity cares so much about the survival of anything other than itself? Galactus doesn't eat planets for shits and giggles he eats to survive.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Humanity cares so much about the survival of anything other than itself? Galactus doesn't eat planets for shits and giggles he eats to survive.

Actully he is eating them for shits. He is eating them to kill beings. Killing so many beings billions just for his survival.
Billions>1. So if he would want to do good, he would kill himself and not billions of others. **** his survival, where there is question a life of billions.

The guy eats planets to survive I got that one already but why should he kill so many for himself. Are you trying to say that If galactus came to Earth our earth(Hypothetichally) you wouldnt think he would be evil if he ate our planet and killed every living thing in it?

Do you eat meat? Where do you think it comes from? Trees?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Do you eat meat? Where do you think it comes from? Trees?

God has actully gave us them to eat, pig, chickens..., he gave us right to eat them, but Galactus has no right to eat planets, espeacily with such important beings as humans. If he would be right, then Silver Surfer wouldn't opposed him and many others, also Wathcer.

even if ya eat vegetables yuh are killing something


do u care about the bacteria living on the inside of your apple? no, u just eat it. im sure the bacteria feel ur 'evil' too


why do u wash your hands or brush your teeth or bathe. ur killing bacteria. ur an evil SOB


humans can kill galactus. bacteria can kill us. humans helped galactus. bacteria can help humans (penecillin (sp))

mutants can blah blah blah
bacteria mutates all the time. how is teh situation any different

humans are sentient?
how do u know bacteria isnt and its just that we dont know how to communicate with it.

galactus is not evil

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Do you eat meat? Where do you think it comes from? Trees? Trees are alive.


Oh, and don't forget that Galactus is an essential part of 616, if he were to die the entire universe would collapse.

Would you sacrifise one person to save 10?
Would you sacrifise 10 people to save 100?
Would you sacrifise 100 people to save 1000?
Would you sacrifise 1,000 people to save 10,000?
Would you sacrifise 10,000 people to save 100,000?
Would you sacrifise 100,000 people to save 1,00,000?
Would you sacrifice a million to save a billion?
Would you sacrifice a couple billion to save the rest of the universe?

First off Galactus' is necessary for the existence of the Marvel universe.
Secondly you eat animals because you nothing stops you, there is no divine right and there is no major biological need.
Galactus must eat planets to survive. He's said before "for choice I would feed on barren worlds or civilizations in decline." Galactus is a force of nature, he is not evil.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Do you eat meat? Where do you think it comes from? Trees?


Galactus isnt evil. If you think he is, this is what you should do-

1. Make a website listing your facts of Galctus being evil. ie... eating planets.
2. Get everyone that agrees with your point of view to leave contact info.
3. Contact them and make plans for an anti-Galactus rally.
4. Make some billboards stating your views on them. ie... Galactus: your not welcome here. Think up a chant. ie... Hey Galactus- Hell no, we wont go!!!
5. Show up on the doorstep to Marvel Headquarters.
6. Have a peaceful anti-Galactus protest. (but sometimes things cant be done peacefully. This might be one of them.)
7. Sit down with Marvel and find out what can be done to eliminate Galactus from being such a threat.
8. Let me know how things go.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
even if ya eat vegetables yuh are killing something


do u care about the bacteria living on the inside of your apple? no, u just eat it. im sure the bacteria feel ur 'evil' too


why do u wash your hands or brush your teeth or bathe. ur killing bacteria. ur an evil SOB


humans can kill galactus. bacteria can kill us. humans helped galactus. bacteria can help humans (penecillin (sp))

mutants can blah blah blah
bacteria mutates all the time. how is teh situation any different

humans are sentient?
how do u know bacteria isnt and its just that we dont know how to communicate with it.


God didn't gave soul to animals or especailly to bacterias. That is why he created pig and that, for us to, to eat somethig. He gave us right to eat apple, he gave us right to eat pig. But he gave soul to humans.
I don't what you are thinking, but you must be an idiot to compare bacterias to humans as humans to G. SS betrayed G for humans, Wathcer know humans are too imporant so that G could only feed on humans.
God gave humabs eternal life, only to us, not to animals or bacteria, so don't dare to think again compare bacteria to humans as humans to G, like it's the same.
And when G died, I don't remember Universe collapsing, only star was made from his energy.

Galactus' wasn't dead he was incubating - however in his stead an entity called Abraxas was released and attempted to destroy the universe. Galactus' is a vital part of the MU, he does only what he needs to survive, he is not so much an organism as a force of nature, he is not good and he is not evil, he simply is.

Sort of like hurricane Katrina being evil.

Originally posted by Xplosive
God has actully gave us them to eat, pig, chickens..., he gave us right to eat them, but Galactus has no right to eat planets, espeacily with such important beings as humans. If he would be right, then Silver Surfer wouldn't opposed him and many others, also Wathcer. How do u know for example he himself doesnt believe to have been given that right, to eat us?
When it comes down to eat Galactus eats to survive, as do we. He might consider our emotions and lives to be equivalents of what we think of such traits in chickens etc. We dont think much of it, and eat away (sure some of us dont, but does that make the rest of us meateaters evil?).
He doesnt feel he's doing wrong. He is not evil, not good, I say he is a complex individual, in a state of existance far above our capability to understand (ie his reasoning and mind might not make sense to us).
It was stated that to do what he must do to survive his mind blocks out what it truly means (thats how the penance stare worked, he became aware of it in my understanding).
He is indifferent to our survival. He does what he has to, self-preservation drives us all and is very powerful.
He might be aware, or he might not see our reasoning. He sees most of us as lesser beings. His psyche is different from ours, and he is a complex individual. I dont really think he can be labeled as evil. (He's Bad News for us "ants" though)

Originally posted by Xplosive
And God has given to humans chicken, pig... to eat (we have right to eat them), while Galactus doesn't have right to eat worlds with beings.

someone's had a good dose of religious brainwashing

isn't valuing your own life above other life one of the classic trademarks of being "evil"?

Originally posted by gamewarrior
The guy eats planets to survive I got that one already but why should he kill so many for himself. Are you trying to say that If galactus came to Earth our earth(Hypothetichally) you wouldnt think he would be evil if he ate our planet and killed every living thing in it? galactus rocks

Originally posted by Xplosive
God didn't gave soul to animals or especailly to bacterias. Can you prove this?

He made them be able to feel pain, he made them be able to feel love, and pleasure.

Originally posted by Xplosive
That is why he created pig and that, for us to, to eat somethig. He gave us right to eat apple, he gave us right to eat pig. But he gave soul to humans. then why did he make them fight back?

Originally posted by Xplosive
I don't what you are thinking, but you must be an idiot to compare bacterias to humans as humans to G. SS betrayed G for humans, Wathcer know humans are too imporant so that G could only feed on humans. When has G ever fed on humans?

Originally posted by Xplosive
God gave humabs eternal life, only to us, not to animals or bacteria, Again, prove this?

Originally posted by Xplosive
so don't dare to think again compare bacteria to humans as humans to G, like it's the same. It's funny that its a human that is saying this, if you think about it.

Originally posted by Xplosive
And when G died, I don't remember Universe collapsing, only star was made from his energy. When did G die?

honestly, im a strong believer in God and stuff, but are u seriously trying to use scripture to define a fictional characters eating habits Xplosive?

it seems illogical to me

Originally posted by Scoobless
someone's had a good dose of religious brainwashing




Sounds like it.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Humanity cares so much about the survival of anything other than itself? Galactus doesn't eat planets for shits and giggles he eats to survive.

^cosigns.

and he holds on as long as he can.

Originally posted by Marvelgeek
How do u know for example he himself doesnt believe to have been given that right, to eat us?


Because Galactus in many ways isn't even capable of feeling what humans can. Now MarvelGeek, so TOAA has created humans so that they can be eaten by Galactus. I mean TOAA has chosen humans, again humans with potential to be one with primal force of creation and than you think he gave Galcatus right to eat human beigns.
To Scoobles, no, we are above animals, we have soul, they don't.
Galactus soul isn't above human soul. Isn't is said Galactus will de and other abstact with the end of the universe, guess what, human will live and human will evetnually become more powerful than abstracts. There are already some of them more powerful than G.
How can both of you been sos tupid, think before you write, especailly you Marvelgeek, I mean, how do you know he doens't have right to eat us, how can you say somethin like that stupid, while TOAA has given to human greatest potential of all. So I think he doesn't have right to.
Creshosk, Oh my God, you are also comparing human to bacterias and thininking they have soul and asking me to prove you, **** you.
Solidus Snake, no, you are not strong believer.
Now Apocalypse wants to make strongest to survive, he is also about survival. Well than I guees he is not evil, he is just what it is, killing others, because of his idea of survival, he is not evil.

Originally posted by Xplosive
To Scoobles, no, we are above animals, we have soul, they don't.

what are you basing this belief on?

Originally posted by Xplosive
Creshosk, Oh my God, you are also comparing human to bacterias and thininking they have soul and asking me to prove you, **** you.

why are you so opposed to the idea that humans aren't above everything? the most "evil" acts ever recorded were committed by humans

does the idea that humans have something in common with bacteria offend you?... if so, why?

do you believe everything you are told? if the answer is no, then why do you believe everything a religious group tells you?

Originally posted by Xplosive
Because Galactus in many ways isn't even capable of feeling what humans can. and we are incapable feeling what he can in many ways.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Now MarvelGeek, so TOAA has created humans so that they can be eaten by Galactus.When has galactus eaten humans, human?

Originally posted by Xplosive
I mean TOAA has chosen humans, again humans with potential to be one with primal force of creation and than you think he gave Galcatus right to eat human beigns.So you do listen to GS?

Originally posted by Xplosive
To Scoobles, no, we are above animals, we have soul, they don't. Prove it.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Galactus soul isn't above human soul. Isn't is said Galactus will de and other abstact with the end of the universe, guess what, human will live and human will evetnually become more powerful than abstracts. eventually. What about humans that kill other humans not out of need but vengence, or whatever?

Originally posted by Xplosive
How can both of you been sos tupid, think before you write, especailly you Marvelgeek, I mean, how do you know he doens't have right to eat us, how can you say somethin like that stupid, while TOAA has given to human greatest potential of all. So I think he doesn't have right to. when has he ever eaten humans?

Originally posted by Xplosive
Creshosk, Oh my God, you are also comparing human to bacterias and thininking they have soul and asking me to prove you, **** you.I take it that's a no on proving only humans have souls?

Originally posted by Xplosive
Solidus Snake, no, you are not strong believer.
Now Apocalypse wants to make strongest to survive, he is also about survival. Well than I guees he is not evil, he is just what it is, killing others, because of his idea of survival, he is not evil. It's not just his own survival, he's killing those HE doesn't think should survive. He's making sure that others DON'T survive. big difference.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Because Galactus in many ways isn't even capable of feeling what humans can. Now MarvelGeek, so TOAA has created humans so that they can be eaten by Galactus. I mean TOAA has chosen humans, again humans with potential to be one with primal force of creation and than you think he gave Galcatus right to eat human beigns.
To Scoobles, no, we are above animals, we have soul, they don't.
Galactus soul isn't above human soul. Isn't is said Galactus will de and other abstact with the end of the universe, guess what, human will live and human will evetnually become more powerful than abstracts. There are already some of them more powerful than G.
How can both of you been sos tupid, think before you write, especailly you Marvelgeek, I mean, how do you know he doens't have right to eat us, how can you say somethin like that stupid, while TOAA has given to human greatest potential of all. So I think he doesn't have right to.
Creshosk, Oh my God, you are also comparing human to bacterias and thininking they have soul and asking me to prove you, **** you.
Solidus Snake, no, you are not strong believer.
Now Apocalypse wants to make strongest to survive, he is also about survival. Well than I guees he is not evil, he is just what it is, killing others, because of his idea of survival, he is not evil.


son, what do u know about my beliefs in God

stick to what u know about. however, it seems not to be about comics either

Galactus doesn't have a soul, nor has he in billions of years.

If you never gave up your soul and you don't have one, you aren't capable of evil.

galactus is a force of nature....not a human being....

ghost rider's stare BEST CASE SCENARIO would hurt him a little...then he'd squash ghost rider...then ghost rider would materialize...
then repeat...





repeat....




repeat...

Originally posted by long pig
Galactus doesn't have a soul, nor has he in billions of years.


That is why human are above Galactus. Galactus eventually has end, human doensn't. Human are eternal and TOAA has made them more important than Galactus, just look at Jean.

Potentially more important.

Right now, in comics, our evolution hasn't made us important.

Hell, in the actual scheme of things, humans mean nothing to no one except humans.

Galactus says the fatal flaw for humans is emotion and goes on to say the fatal flaw of abstracts is the lack of it.
Basically, we are all screwed.

Galactus isn't evil or good or even a decent fellah, you're using words that don't apply to someone above you.

Galactus simply is.

Actually Galactus does regret and anguish over the sufferring he causses. Once in FF, he said "No More!" and starved himself for years while he tried to feed off of Nebulae and less rich worlds to little avail. Eventually he collapses in his ship and Death appears to him. He asks if she's come to claim him, but instead she explains to him that his purpose and necessary role in the Universe is to do and be as he is, that the destruction he wreaks is an essential part of the order of things. Eventually convinced, he summons Nova and tells her that he's starving nearly to death and needs a world to eat ASAP. The first one she found was the Skrull Throneworld.

Originally posted by long pig
Potentially more important.

Right now, in comics, our evolution hasn't made us important.


Not yet, and it won't be for some time. Evoulution for now has only made few humans imporant to the unvierse few of them.
But like you said, potentailly they are, but it will need time and time.

argue
^This is what u think u guys are doin








wallbash
^This is actually what u guys are doin

Originally posted by Magic_attack
argue
^This is what u think u guys are doin








wallbash
^This is actually what u guys are doin

lol retards are so much fun to belittle.

I think I'ma start making sigs fulla 'em!

I dont like making fun of handicapped ppl. But I laughed the first time I saw this episode

Originally posted by long pig
So no haggis for Scoob?
ugh.. oobb.. BLBLLLAAAARRRRGGGHHhhhh/...
Foul FOUL stuff.
Don't suppose anyone's couting the reasons given from the Universe X about galactus...

Originally posted by Magic_attack
argue
^This is what u think u guys are doin








wallbash
^This is actually what u guys are doin

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
honestly, im a strong believer in God and stuff, but are u seriously trying to use scripture to define a fictional characters eating habits Xplosive?

it seems illogical to me

That's his calling card.

God sucks, SOB owes me 20 bucks....