What is bigger...Your mind or the Universe?

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WindDancer
It may seen like a silly question. But which one do you think is bigger? The power of your mind's imagination or the vastness of the universe? Can you fill in the knowledge of an entire universe inside your head?

Dark Exile
The power of mind.

Draco69
No. The human brain while incredibly powerful cannot contemplate EVERYTHING in the universe. Every planet. Every organism. Every gas, atom and electron.

Even trying would drive us insane. Our puny brains pale in comparision.

T.M
we could never fit the knowledge of the enitre universe into out tiny human brains no

Dark Exile
No, it depends on the mind if you ask me.

WindDancer
So Draco69 you're saying that the human mind has limits?

Dark Exile
Whats up Wind, banned anyone lately?

Dark Exile
Nope, I think its your mind.

Atlantis001

Draco69
Originally posted by WindDancer
So Draco69 you're saying that the human mind has limits?

Yes. We can only process so much. We can process the universe as per say a room with lots of objects in it...but not EVERYTHING, EVERYWHEN, EVERYWHERE and EVERYBODY.

Our brains can do alot....but not something as grand as this.

Draco69

Shakyamunison
The Universe is much more then we will ever understand.

T.M
we will never know one thing.

the meaning of life.

Alpha Centauri
Considering I have no clue what the mind is truly capable of I can only say it's unlikely that it rivals the vastness of the universe.

Our mind DOES obviously have a limit, it's not infinite. The universe is.

-AC

Clovie
Universe.

WindDancer
Well, the power of imagination has no limits. But the Universe has boundaries and can be measure with the help of science and physics. So, can the mind really have limits? (this is just philosophical thoughts everyone)

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by WindDancer
Well, the power of imagination has no limits. But the Universe has boundaries and can be measure with the help of science and physics. So, can the mind really have limits? (this is just philosophical thoughts everyone)

I believe that there is a physical limit to our imagination. Example; I know my cat has an imagination, she will stock and pounce on things that are not there, but she can not grasp the basics of math, no matter how much she could try. She does not have enough brain. We have a limited amount of brain, so we are like my cat, there are some things we can not do, and we don't know what they are.

debbiejo
The imagination can experience all, but don't think it can remember all of the universe......It can create, it can destroy, it can journey, travel, marvel..... and I don't consider it part of the brain...I feel the mind is separate from the brain...

Besides we haven't even agreed what the universe is anyway...

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by debbiejo
The imagination can experience all, but don't think it can remember all of the universe......It can create, it can destroy, it can journey, travel, marvel..... and I don't consider it part of the brain...I feel the mind is separate from the brain...

Besides we haven't even agreed what the universe is anyway...

Well, I was interpreting this thread as staying in the mind. If you leave the mind and travel into a greater conciseness then I'm considering that as being on the universe side of this question. If you are confused, you are not a lone. confused

debbiejo
Will imagination is part of what the mind is....so...I took it as that....the mind can't even really be explained either...

Must be a quantum thingy.. cool

piccola_nuvola
I think both are quite huge. I believe the power of immagination is great, but it has limits, as most of what we know is acquired by the senses, and people cannot think about things they can't perceive...you cannot immagine a colour you've never seen.
As for the universe, it's quite big too...and we still don't know for sure whether it has boundaries, do we?
Anyway, I think the universe is bigger...maybe because the minds are part of it.

Wonderer
First of all: what is the universe?; what is the mind? Is there a distinction between the two? Can we believe the mind when it claims anything? Where does the mind, if at all, begins and where does it ends, if at all?

Throughout the history of philosophy, the above questions have never been settled.

debbiejo
OH....it is all subjective anyway.....how I hate that word.

Wonderer
Yes, how meaningless all such discussions about the great unknown is!

debbiejo
But interesting to fathom...

Legend Of Chibi
Originally posted by WindDancer
It may seen like a silly question. But which one do you think is bigger? The power of your mind's imagination or the vastness of the universe? Can you fill in the knowledge of an entire universe inside your head?

I am on my way to making a universe inside my mind, yes my mind is just as powerful as the universe.

eleveninches
My mind is more important than the rest of the universe, so it could be thought of as being bigger.
But how do you define size? Is it the length of something, or it's mass, or it's volume???
You cant measure the mind in terms of distances as a length.

darth-yoda
the mind has no limits IMO but so dose the universe so i would say there equal i terms of size the size being infinit i disagre saying that the mindhas limits how can it know one has ever reached it

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by darth-yoda
the mind has no limits IMO but so dose the universe so i would say there equal i terms of size the size being infinit i disagre saying that the mindhas limits how can it know one has ever reached it

There are things in the universe that are beyond our imagination.

debbiejo
Depends on your intelligence.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by debbiejo
Depends on your intelligence.

I would expect a commit like that from you. stick out tongue

laughing

Pandemoniac
'Only two things are infinite; the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not really sure about the universe...'

- Albert Einstein

Atlantis001
If you think in the universe like a hologram, then like a hologram is... the mind being a small part of the universe could contain the whole universe in it.

leonheartmm
the mind,without a doubt.

debbiejo
Originally posted by Atlantis001
If you think in the universe like a hologram, then like a hologram is... the mind being a small part of the universe could contain the whole universe in it.

Yep.....Smaller parts of the larger and so on and so on....also like one within the other and so on and on......All blended, separated and yet completed in small jumps..... ever developing, expanding....intertwined...probable hard to fathom...

Atlantis001
Anyway that universe you talk about in already in your mind when you asked "What is bigger? Your mind or the universe?".

debbiejo
Kind of sounds like creating....ie creators.....Unlimited potential.....Let me explore that reality....Hmmmmmm...yes, I like it....!!!!

JediMusician
Originally posted by piccola_nuvola
...maybe because the minds are part of it.

And there's the killing blow!
A basic, and always correct, mathematical theorem is that no part can ever be as large as the whole. So since our minds are part of the universe, they cannot contain the knowledge of the universe.

From a more physical perspective, the human mind is capable of storing about 2.2 terrabytes of information. That would be approximately one fifth of the internet, much less everything in the universe.

Wonderer
Who says there is something like 'the whole', 'the universe', 'infinity'? Nobody really comprehend concepts like these!? Who can truly visualize things like these!? Only an arrogant charlattan can wrap his brain around the absolute. We don't know, never knew and will never know...but we can be in a state of wonder...

finti
I am the eye in the sky
Looking at you
I can read your mind
Iam the maker of rules
Dealing with fools
I can cheat you blind
And I don't need to see any more
To know that I can read your mind, I can read your mind - Alan Parsons Project
big grin

debbiejo
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I am dee Frito Bandito.
I love Frito's Corn Chips,
I love dem I do.
I love Frito's Corn Chips,
I take dem from you.

finti
frito bandito, nah I prefer Lays

debbiejo
Well....with pringles...you just can't have one!

finti
pringles are overrated

debbiejo
OK then.....Lays it is.....

finti
yeah

debbiejo
OK...have your lays.....if it makes you happy.....

finti
ok

debbiejo
laughing out loud

I've had lays too....they are so awesome...

WindDancer
Originally posted by finti
I am the eye in the sky
Looking at you
I can read your mind
Iam the maker of rules
Dealing with fools
I can cheat you blind
And I don't need to see any more
To know that I can read your mind, I can read your mind - Alan Parsons Project
big grin

Poetry time During elections in Norway? stick out tongue

Shakyamunison
I have a bottle of brandy that has a pear in the bottle, really cool. It reminds me of this question. The pear is in the bottle, no matter how big the pear is, it's always in the bottle. Our imagination is the pear and the universe is the bottle. No matter how big our imagination is, it's always in the universe.

debbiejo
Originally posted by WindDancer
Poetry time During elections in Norway? stick out tongue

Election day in Norway...hey that rhymes...

Spelljammer
The universe, for the simple fact that the mind cannot grasp infinity. Sure it can know OF it. But it cannot really hold domain over the concept like it does over everything else..

finti
well better that then listening to the politicians big grin hey WD Im impressed by your awareness of events in a small country far far away

WindDancer
I was reading it yesterday in the news. I think it got more attention because of the close race between the two parties. So....who won?

Inspectah Deck
The universe is to big for the human brain to contemplate its knowledge

Great Vengeance
The mind couldnt hold the information of all the inner workings in one string of DNA much less the entire universe.

leana marie
if anything is everything and everything is anything what is nothing?

i, dont, know... the universe can fit inside our mind and our mind can fit inside the universe, each is smaller than the other and yet bigger than the other, therefore niether is more vast or infinticimle. the scope of a human mind is how you make it, same goes for the universe.

its easy to figure out if you dont think about it

debbiejo
Originally posted by leana marie
if anything is everything and everything is anything what is nothing?

i, dont, know... the universe can fit inside our mind and our mind can fit inside the universe, each is smaller than the other and yet bigger than the other, therefore niether is more vast or infinticimle. the scope of a human mind is how you make it, same goes for the universe.

its easy to figure out if you dont think about it

Yeah... blink ....but I like it.....I think......

I know that sounded better in your head.

leana marie
*squish* sad you just killed my confidence!! no

debbiejo
I'm just kidding.... big grin....besides, I said I liked it....I think it's interesting.....Just know it probably sounded better in your head....somethings do, at least for me....

finti
the socialist coalition mad

Bardock42
Originally posted by finti
the socialist coalition mad
I feel with yah brother....

Back to the topic.....did anyone say "My Penis", yet?

jerlark386
The Universe is a construct of the mind.

Keep in mind, that the Universe has such a huge meaning, that our minds are imagining that we can't imagine the whole Universe. We are limited in our perceptions, but not limited in our ability to draw illusions from them.

leonheartmm
Originally posted by jerlark386
The Universe is a construct of the mind.

Keep in mind, that the Universe has such a huge meaning, that our minds are imagining that we can't imagine the whole Universe. We are limited in our perceptions, but not limited in our ability to draw illusions from them.


or maybe its just us thinkin that the universe has such a huge meaning.

jerlark386
Originally posted by Bardock42

Back to the topic.....did anyone say "My Penis", yet?


Oh and for the record..

my penis > Universe

moogle_xenocide
Originally posted by WindDancer
It may seen like a silly question. But which one do you think is bigger? The power of your mind's imagination or the vastness of the universe? Can you fill in the knowledge of an entire universe inside your head?

when you see an object certain parts of the brain work.when asked to imagine the same object the same parts of the brain work

if that is correct then we must not rule out the possibility that this reality can be altered simply by imagining your world as something else therefore your mind must be the greater of the two

MistressofSnape
Our mind of course, or at least mine is.

Wonderer
The mind is way bigger than the universe due to the mind's ego! If the universe had ego it would have long ago rid itself of all humans.

Storm
Originally posted by WindDancer
So, can the mind really have limits? (this is just philosophical thoughts everyone)
If we use the term "mind" to describe the higher functions of the human brain, then the mind is subject to limits. Only about 10 % of the neurons in the brain are firing at any given time. If all of our neurons began firing at once, we would suffer an epileptic seizure.

mailedbypostman
You're talking about two unmeasurable things there. i think the universe is larger though, we couldn't imagine the vastness of the universe. I can barely imagine the continent of the US even.

powerfulone1987
The universe is larger.

Atlantis001
larger in volume ? In cubic meters, feet, etc... the question should be more specific.

AOR
Originally posted by WindDancer
It may seen like a silly question. But which one do you think is bigger? The power of your mind's imagination or the vastness of the universe? Can you fill in the knowledge of an entire universe inside your head?

the universe. The mind comes close, but not even the most intellectual could possibly come close to comprehending the vastness that is space, let alone the universe....

Lord Follen
I THINK ITS YOUR MIND!!! no one can know wjats in the WHOLE univers so their fore iimagination comes in filling in the blanks about whats out their such as planets. or if their realy is an almighty god... my position stands that the mind is much greater than the univers... laughing out loud

Great Vengeance
Originally posted by Great Vengeance
The mind couldnt hold the information of all the inner workings in one string of DNA much less the entire universe.

DenKi
I honestly dont think we havnt unlocked our full brains potential, i think we have unlocked maybe 5-10% so far

debbiejo
The mind is amazing....we're only now scratching the surface of what it's potential is.

Atlantis001
Originally posted by DenKi
I honestly dont think we havnt unlocked our full brains potential, i think we have unlocked maybe 5-10% so far

I understand what you mean, but that is just a myth, there is no scientific evidence that we use only 10% of the brain. I think that potential you spoke about is not something related to the brain itself.

DarkC
Mind.

crispycream
the universe is bigger than our mind. everyday we are discovering new things with our minds and there are so much more things about the universe that we don't know about like the solar system and beyond. it's impossible to comprehend and get our minds round some of the things

lil bitchiness
Human mind is the most powerful thing known to man.

crispycream
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Human mind is the most powerful thing known to man.

if it's so powerful then why don't we know everything about the universe already?

debbiejo
How small minded of you.... roll eyes (sarcastic)

lil bitchiness
Originally posted by crispycream
if it's so powerful then why don't we know everything about the universe already?

We know more about the Universe than we do about what is in the oceans.

Learning is a process not a one time magical event where all is shown to you.

WindDancer
Plus don't forget we have the infamous unconscious mind that we haven't touch on...who knows what kind stuff is hidden inside. Don't go all Freudian on me. stick out tongue

lil bitchiness
Would I ever! hypocrite



















catwoman

Shakyamunison
Sometimes it seems that the biggest thing ever is the human ego.

BobbyD
The universe easily, though I'm sure somedays are minds make us wonder.

debbiejo
Originally posted by WindDancer
Plus don't forget we have the infamous unconscious mind that we haven't touch on...who knows what kind stuff is hidden inside. Don't go all Freudian on me. stick out tongue

Freud....Nah, I don't like him....I like Jung..

Our minds are unlimited in it's potential...we are just inferior at realizing it...well, that's my take on it............ If there is life somewhere else...maybe they've figured it out...that's why they publish books..... confused

Ganner Rhysode
I'd have to say the universe. The human mind has limits, things it can't achieve - nor comprehend.

The universe is endless, never ceasing, far beyond the scope of anything we can imagine.

Mindship
Mind is the Universe's way for it to understand itself.

Great Vengeance
Originally posted by debbiejo
Freud....Nah, I don't like him....I like Jung..

Our minds are unlimited in it's potential...we are just inferior at realizing it...well, that's my take on it............ If there is life somewhere else...maybe they've figured it out...that's why they publish books..... confused

Our mind unlimited in potential? As much as we would like to think so that is for a fact wrong.

debbiejo
How so?...I see the mind as much larger and not just inclusive to the brain organ.

Great Vengeance
Originally posted by debbiejo
How so?...I see the mind as much larger and not just inclusive to the brain organ.

There are things you do not yet understand correct? The mind has limitations.

debbiejo
The mind is more then just understanding..........

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by debbiejo
The mind is more then just understanding..........

The problem is the definition of the mind. You add the unseen element of the entity to the equation, were as most people are talking about the physical part only.


What is your opinion if you were only referring to the physical part?

kmcdude
Originally posted by WindDancer
Plus don't forget we have the infamous unconscious mind that we haven't touch on...who knows what kind stuff is hidden inside. Don't go all Freudian on me. stick out tongue

That really intrests me,Is you mind so powerful that maybe part of you already knows what's going to happen? Is the reason you sometimes feel happy or sad for no reason something you are thinking in your unconsicious mind?

Mindship
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The problem is the definition of the mind. You add the unseen element of the entity to the equation, were as most people are talking about the physical part only.
What is your opinion if you were only referring to the physical part?

I think what most people mean by mind is the subjective experience of self; information processing; symbolic reasoning; envisioning, etc. As such, there is no "physical part" to the mind. The "physical correlation" to the mind is the brain, which is a material entity that operates electrochemically and appears to give rise to the subjective, nonmaterial phenomenon of mind.

The physical universe is obviously bigger than the brain. But the physical/nonliving universe--by definition--can not perceive, reason nor imagine, abilities which permit us--as teeny, finite bits of protoplasm--to go virtually anywhere in space and time, including "other universes."

(Asking, "But what if there is a God, or the Universe is alive/conscious, etc"? ignores what I've said: "physical/nonliving", which is how I am interpreting the term "universe" in relation to this question. If "universe" is to be interpreted as being more than "physical/nonliving," that is, possibly alive and conscious, then why ask the question in the first place--which is bigger--since no real distinction is being made between the two?)

Mindship
Originally posted by kmcdude
That really intrests me,Is you mind so powerful that maybe part of you already knows what's going to happen? Is the reason you sometimes feel happy or sad for no reason something you are thinking in your unconsicious mind?

This question is feisty enough without introducing "the unconscious," especially since--like the conscious mind--it is a multi-faceted landscape, but one that is largely unexplored and makes up--by far--most of the psyche.

Slay
Your mind because it can think beyond the Universe...i think confused

debbiejo
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The problem is the definition of the mind. You add the unseen element of the entity to the equation, were as most people are talking about the physical part only.


What is your opinion if you were only referring to the physical part?

Hmmmm physical part?.....Well I see the brain as more a receptor, not the generator of (all) thoughts...Of course the brain has many other functions like storing memories..etc.

Ladyluck
I'm bumping this thread because it's interesting.



I think right now, at this point in time, the Universe is bigger. The Universe is huge.. Endless. I think that we do not yet understand the full capacity of our brains. I think that as years and years go by, we will slowly develop and use our brains to their full potential. Also, there is no limit to the imagination. Or is there a limit? Is the limit only what we already know? What we have heard about or seen? I think our minds are capable of so much more.

Bardock42
My mind might be able to imagine something bigger than the Universe (not sure..probably) and I certainly know an infinite amount of numbers higher than all atoms of the universe together, but I wouldn't say my mind is "bigger" than the universe..for one since it is part of this Universe, isn't it?

FoxMeister
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
It may seen like a silly question. But which one do you think is bigger? The power of your mind's imagination or the vastness of the universe? Can you fill in the knowledge of an entire universe inside your head?
My stupidity Happy Dance

Atlantis001
Mind unfortunately... we have an enormous potential for suffering.

Blue_Hefner
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
It may seen like a silly question. But which one do you think is bigger? The power of your mind's imagination or the vastness of the universe? Can you fill in the knowledge of an entire universe inside your head?

I believe they are about the same size. The universe is limitless, and so is how much you can learn. One needs only to look at people like Thomas Jefferson, Leonardo Da vinci, and other multitalented men and women.

Bardock42
PROOF THAT THE UNIVERSE WINS:

Originally posted by Blue_Hefner
I believe they are about the same size. The universe is limitless, and so is how much you can learn. One needs only to look at people like Thomas Jefferson, Leonardo Da vinci, and other multitalented men and women.

Lord Follen
that is not proof for the univers is perceived through different eyes and through different people.... the mind his what creats thought and all thoughs are limitless... just think of when you have one idea that moves to another and that line continues to the end... the mind is bigger because it creates the univers itself. Ill use a concept one of my top teachers use, How do you know your alive? How do you know im actualy here? Those are the most imposible awnsers in the world to awnser because no one can ever back up proof to say that thay are real. their for the mind is greater because..... lets just say each to their own...lol

Bardock42
Man, did you have to end your post with a "lol"? I mean...was it really necessary? I mean...goddamn.

Anyways, I am still not sure how to compare a "mind" with a "universe", I didn't even know that a "mind" did occupy space....

Atlantis001
Ok, whats the size of the mind in cubic meters ?

Bardock42
Originally posted by Atlantis001
Ok, whats the size of the mind in cubic meters ?

Exactly. That's what I mean. Is it just the cubic metres the mind can imagine or what? It's just hardly comparable.

Atlantis001
Yup, I think this questions is not very well defined. We first need to define what means to say that a mind is smaller or bigger than something.

Lord Follen
Originally posted by Bardock42
Man, did you have to end your post with a "lol"? I mean...was it really necessary? I mean...goddamn.

Anyways, I am still not sure how to compare a "mind" with a "universe", I didn't even know that a "mind" did occupy space.... yes it was nessesary... no expression

and the question is not about the physical size... its to the extent of what one can make it....

Bardock42
Originally posted by Lord Follen
yes it was nessesary... no expression

and the question is not about the physical size... its to the extent of what one can make it....

Which, again, makes no sense...lol

Lord Follen
Its basicaly the level of which one can comprehend to certen extenses... thats what it means...lol

King Kandy
The mind cannot perceive dimensions outside of the four we are accustomed to. Thus, the universe is larger.

JacopeX
The universe is bigger than the mind no matter what. The demensions you havent seen and things you did not see out of this earth that you have never left is out there and mind carries wonders and thoughts of many things. If you go through the whole demensions and universe, it will increase with a greater mind but the universe remains more bigger than youre mind.

debbiejo
Your mind of course...........what can hold all it's thoughts.

Lord Follen
Originally posted by JacopeX
The universe is bigger than the mind no matter what. The demensions you havent seen and things you did not see out of this earth that you have never left is out there and mind carries wonders and thoughts of many things. If you go through the whole demensions and universe, it will increase with a greater mind but the universe remains more bigger than youre mind. if that is true then those dementions never existed in the firstplace... for anything to be there is had to be percieved

JacopeX
Originally posted by Lord Follen
if that is true then those dementions never existed in the firstplace... for anything to be there is had to be percieved The mind is very complex, and explain why the demensions would not exsist if you have never been out of this world before?

Flame On!!
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
It may seen like a silly question. But which one do you think is bigger? The power of your mind's imagination or the vastness of the universe? Can you fill in the knowledge of an entire universe inside your head?

Well some minds have the capacity to make sense of the much of the Universe. This is based on the accumulation of information. On the other hand the mind is a product of the Universe. In answer to your question No I don't think it's possible for present day humans to fit the knowledge of the Universe in their heads.

- FO!!

King Kandy
Originally posted by Lord Follen
if that is true then those dementions never existed in the firstplace... for anything to be there is had to be percieved
Who said that it had to be humans doing the perceiving?

Flame On!!
Originally posted by King Kandy
Who said that it had to be humans doing the perceiving?

The thread starter is talking about the human mind. He says "your" head!!

- FO!!

King Kandy
I know, but Lord Follen said that something has to be perceived to exist, and I said, "Well, even if humans can't perceive these other dimensions, maybe other things can!"

King Kandy
I know, but Lord Follen said that something has to be perceived to exist, and I said, "Well, even if humans can't perceive these other dimensions, maybe other things can!"

Lord Follen
Originally posted by JacopeX
The mind is very complex, and explain why the demensions would not exsist if you have never been out of this world before? dimensions are and can only be dreamed up and is limited to the thinker their for what their is that is know out their is what is out their... something canot exist unless something or someone knows its existance.Originally posted by King Kandy
I know, but Lord Follen said that something has to be perceived to exist, and I said, "Well, even if humans can't perceive these other dimensions, maybe other things can!" your going into a whole new feild of the argumant... and that relies on life outside of earth.... Realityes are all different and people can and will interpret the world into their own meansings... hence that the mind is lare becasue everyones reality is different.... (I know one odd fellow who belives spanish is not a real language...)Originally posted by Flame On!!
The thread starter is talking about the human mind. He says "your" head!!

- FO!! and i second that statement....

King Kandy
"dimensions are and can only be dreamed up and is limited to the thinker their for what their is that is know out their is what is out their... something canot exist unless something or someone knows its existance."

Preposterous. If that was true, then life had to exist since the origin of the universe, but the only thing that should exist then is gaseous substance, and energy.

JacopeX
Originally posted by Lord Follen
dimensions are and can only be dreamed up and is limited to the thinker their for what their is that is know out their is what is out their... something canot exist unless something or someone knows its existance. I disagree. There might be people who have never seen other countries before and cant use imagination since it obviously false.

Shalimar_fox
i'm have to say the mind.only becuase we don't know too much about the UNI.imagination plays into the mind and you can make anything happen

redcaped
What is the Universe? Infinite space and matter everlasting. What is the Mind? Assimilation of everything you See and Hear in life.

Lord Follen
Originally posted by King Kandy
"dimensions are and can only be dreamed up and is limited to the thinker their for what their is that is know out their is what is out their... something canot exist unless something or someone knows its existance."

Preposterous. If that was true, then life had to exist since the origin of the universe, but the only thing that should exist then is gaseous substance, and energy. and what if it did? gaseous material are still particles and all life are created in atoms and cells down to the smallest bacteria thats is how THEORY'S are created.Originally posted by JacopeX
I disagree. There might be people who have never seen other countries before and cant use imagination since it obviously false. that makes no sense at all... just because some people dont know of the existance doesnt mean its not their when their are others living there... to their knowledge it doesnt exist... but thats only on PERSPECTIVE... where as the mind is full of many other perspectives from many other MINDS!

now try to figure out that!

debbiejo
How could the universe be bigger than any thoughts or imaginations.???

King Kandy
"and what if it did? gaseous material are still particles and all life are created in atoms and cells down to the smallest bacteria thats is how THEORY'S are created."
Life is different from Gaseous substance.Life did not develop intil after gaseous substance. It is on this basis that you are incorrect.

AOR
Trick question: they are both immeasurable and therefore can both be equal.

King Kandy
The mind has certain boundries the universe does not.

Punkyhermy
the universe.

Atlantis001
What is bigger 4 meters or 8 pounds ?

We cannot compare different things.

WrathfulDwarf
But ounces and pounds have a mathetical relationship. Your mind lets you know they can be separate because of mathetics. Thus, your mind came to this conclusion. Both Mind and the Universe are known throught mathetics but we can only know the methods of mathetics by the use of our mind.

Point one for the mind. wink

The Pythogoras (sp?) philosophy.

AOR
Originally posted by King Kandy
The mind has certain boundries the universe does not.

Not true, the mind is only bound to what we don't know. There is much we don't know of the human mind (let alone describe it). How could you claim the mind "limited" if we haven't even defined the limits?

Council#13
I can't even imagine the size of the Universe. I doubt anyone can

debbiejo
The Universe may or may not have boundries........The mind does not.

Council#13
Uh.... yes it does! stick out tongue

Really, just how big do you think the Universe is? Considering it is infinite, you can't imagine how large it is.

Madman_V3N0M
Neither, my balls are biger than both! LOL Jokin' but actually in most cases men's balls are bigger than theyr brains.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Council#13
Uh.... yes it does! stick out tongue

Really, just how big do you think the Universe is? Considering it is infinite, you can't imagine how large it is.

It probably isn't infinite though.

Originally posted by debbiejo
The Universe may or may not have boundries........The mind does not.

The mind certainlky has boundaries, but the fact remains that we compare apples with the idea of eggs, music with books, the sun with pi or as best example universes with minds.

King Kandy
We can't imagin the color of microwave radiation.

SEE! LIMITED!

Madman_V3N0M
Yes we can! I know the color of microwaves, it's gromklep!

Council#13
Originally posted by Madman_V3N0M
Neither, my balls are biger than both! LOL Jokin' but actually in most cases men's balls are bigger than theyr brains.

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laughing out loud

Originally posted by Bardock42
It probably isn't infinite though.



The mind certainlky has boundaries, but the fact remains that we compare apples with the idea of eggs, music with books, the sun with pi or as best example universes with minds.

Then I challenge you to a race to the ends of the Universe! evillaugh


Thank you for agreeing yes

Shad0w_Frost
Neither is bigger nor smaller....Both have infinite possibilities

§P0oONY
Originally posted by debbiejo
The Universe may or may not have boundries........The mind does not.
The universe probably isn't infinite. Where as the mind almost certainly isn't.

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