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The fight takes place on Earth or near Earth orbit, no sundipping and no draining the other guys powers. The current versions of the characters are used, a K.O. can count as a win, and both sides are out for blood.

SS and Thanos win. SS has cosmic awareness which would inform him on Superman's weakness to Kryptonite Radiation and SS is the master of radiation so he would just blast him with some and Thanos is currently superior to Darkseid.

Originally posted by armandovalles
SS and Thanos win. SS has cosmic awareness which would inform him on Superman's weakness to Kryptonite Radiation and SS is the master of radiation so he would just blast him with some and Thanos is currently superior to Darkseid.

Pretty much. Superman's gonna find himself engulfed in kryptonite.....Speed blitzing's most likely not going to help too much seeing as SS can do that as well.

Assuming something incredibly strange happened I'd say on the physical range Thanos can hold up against Superman. he took a beating from Thor (Who IMO is on par with Superman in Strength and durability) when Thor's strength was muchly enhanced by the power gem and still wouldn't go down. And that was without using his force fields.

As for Darkseid....didn't SS beat him and then turned his back on DS and DS blasted him with the Omega beams from behind in a cross-over or am i imagining that? Oh well....either way...

I'd say Marvel wins in this case.


~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Pretty much. Superman's gonna find himself engulfed in kryptonite.....Speed blitzing's most likely not going to help too much seeing as SS can do that as well.

Assuming something incredibly strange happened I'd say on the physical range Thanos can hold up against Superman. he took a beating from Thor (Who IMO is on par with Superman in Strength and durability) when Thor's strength was muchly enhanced by the power gem and still wouldn't go down. And that was without using his force fields.

As for Darkseid....didn't SS beat him and then turned his back on DS and DS blasted him with the Omega beams from behind in a cross-over or am i imagining that? Oh well....either way...

I'd say Marvel wins in this case.


~wickerman~ No took a blow from Galactus, then got up and downed Surfer in one shot, then in another DC vs Marvel comic he was smacking around Thor, Silver Surfer Thanos and a few others.


Omega beams, omega beams.
Simple.

DS could simply teleport them away with his Omega beams into something or to the other end of the universe.

Thaons can teleport to

Originally posted by golem370
Thaons can teleport to

He needs tech... or its not easy for him... example:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/thanosfloat.jpg

Originally posted by Juntai
No took a blow from Galactus, then got up and downed Surfer in one shot, then in another DC vs Marvel comic he was smacking around Thor, Silver Surfer Thanos and a few others.


Omega beams, omega beams.
Simple.

Are you sure SS didn't battle him in that cross-over??? Hmmm....very very strange. I also recall Thanos whooping on DC @ss screaming "Where's Darkseid hiding??" like a maniac....although as i recall that cross-over was crap among crap.

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Are you sure SS didn't battle him in that cross-over??? Hmmm....very very strange. I also recall Thanos whooping on DC @ss screaming "Where's Darkseid hiding??" like a maniac....although as i recall that cross-over was crap among crap.

~wickerman~ Actually, he was screaming that while getting beat up by Wonderwoman.

Originally posted by Wickerman
Are you sure SS didn't battle him in that cross-over??? Hmmm....very very strange. I also recall Thanos whooping on DC @ss screaming "Where's Darkseid hiding??" like a maniac....although as i recall that cross-over was crap among crap.

~wickerman~

I have both. Darkseid fared better than SS and Thanos in both.

Juntai is correct... Galactus blasted the hell out of DS who them comes back and takes out SS in one blast. Surfer was jobbing Orion the whole time.

It could go either way, if Superman moved fast enough and kept them both busy Darkseid could hit them with his Omega Beams and erase them from the Source, but then again its Silver Surfer and Thano could win if they work together.

I would give it to Silver Surfer and Thanos in the first 5 mins anything after that its anyones ballgame

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I have both. Darkseid fared better than SS and Thanos in both.

Juntai is correct... Galactus blasted the hell out of DS who them comes back and takes out SS in one blast. Surfer was jobbing Orion the whole time.

As i recall DS blasted SS in the back....hmmm.....

Juntai, i lost my scans of the entire cross-overs in a HDD incident (working on a crappy 20GB spare now ). I have these, which might be biased. So if you have any scans of WW beating on Thanos...show 'em please....cause i simply don't remember it...seriously.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/preacherofnothing/others/lobo10uf.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/preacherofnothing/others/lobo26iu.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/preacherofnothing/others/lobo36ew.jpg

EDIT: cause if you mean beating on him while he's also being attacked by GL and CM, after having manhandled them, her and Thor....then i suppose you're right

~wickerman~

Dont forget Heat Vision is equal to Omega beams minus the versatility and omnidirectional capabilities. Current Superman may be able to down either of them in one shot as well.

Superman's Heat Vision might as well be christmas lights against The Silver Surfer; and super-breath won't work in space instead.
Sliver Surfer and the diabolicol Thanos take this.

Originally posted by Juntai
Dont forget Heat Vision is equal to Omega beams minus the versatility and omnidirectional capabilities. Current Superman may be able to down either of them in one shot as well.

I wouldn't say it's equal to the Omega Beams, because they don't have the same purpose. However.....Superman can DEFLECT the omega beams using heat vision. That means nothing though, as they don't have the same attributes.

~wickerman~

Thanos is too smart and tactical, sups has a weakness and darkside recently has pussed out surfur might have been taken out by darkside but once sups is dead from an overdose of kryptonite thanos and sufer would go to town on darkside, and even if ss is down from the omega beams thanos can take darkside, soo thanos and ss take this...

I miss win the devil prayed to Darkseid he was the man now Thanos is what DS used to be though on a smaller level if you ask me(Thanos isn't there yet.
Surfer and Thanos take it.
Surfer can make Supes's weakness and Thanos and Darksied well read above statement.

thanos/norrin

Some funny replies from 2+ years ago

Surfer & Thanos take Majority.

Surfer and thanos take this easy. Superman is out of the fight in the first five seconds. Then surfer and thanos double team on DS and beat the crap out of him. Superman oneshotting surfer is as ridiculous as darkseid one shotting a full powered galactus. Darkseid also is not teleporting anybody anywhere as both surfer and thanos can teleport ( surfer can also teleport people back in time forward on time in a distant unknown galaxy i.e another way to eliminate superman) Surfer and thanos win 8/10. The two times they might lose are the times when Surfer intead of finishing off superman persists in lecturing him about the power cosmic giving superman enough time to mount some sort of offence which may or may not be effective

best answer so far....SS and Thanos got this

Darkseid nails all three of them with relative ease.

The surfer has got supermans team outclassed in speed versatility. Basically this is a two on one match as supes is so much of a non factor.
The surfer speed blitzez darkseid while thanos blasts him eventualy DS goes down

Originally posted by ultimatethor
The surfer has got supermans team outclassed in speed versatility. Basically this is a two on one match as supes is so much of a non factor.
The surfer speed blitzez darkseid while thanos blasts him eventualy DS goes down

Originally posted by Juntai


Now here is something to laugh about; A person laughing at his own foolishness.

*sigh* I said it before, I'll say it again.

This forum is going to hell. Ever since the mongooses got shut down again and durquanchi showed up, this place has been going downhill.

The fact that people think Thanos&SS win this is proof of the immense marvel bias here.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
*sigh* I said it before, I'll say it again.

This forum is going to hell. Ever since the mongooses got shut down again and durquanchi showed up, this place has been going downhill.

The fact that people think Thanos&SS win this is proof of the immense marvel bias here. Co-sign.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
*sigh* I said it before, I'll say it again.

This forum is going to hell. Ever since the mongooses got shut down again and durquanchi showed up, this place has been going downhill.

The fact that people think Thanos&SS win this is proof of the immense marvel bias here. So you are saying because people have an opinion conflicting with yours that this forum is going downhill.

For one the Silver Surfer would literally own Superman. For two Thanos doesnt lose to top tiers while Darkseid does. So anyway you look at it Thanos and the Surfer are taking this home. They win it 10 of 10.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
*sigh* I said it before, I'll say it again.

This forum is going to hell. Ever since the mongooses got shut down again and durquanchi showed up, this place has been going downhill.

The fact that people think Thanos&SS win this is proof of the immense marvel bias here.

Just cause you say so, right? This is how it goes:

SS>Supes
Thanos>Darkseid

the end

Norman Supes would lose to SS, however it would be a close fight and SS wouldn't be at full power afterwards. DS is in another leauge then Thanos so after absorbing Thanos power into himself DS proceeds to kill Thanos and oneshot SS.

I see it like this

Norrin beats Supes

Thanos beats DS

Superman > Silver Surfer

Darkseid > Thanos

SS and Thanos take this every time.

team 2

LMAO, wow u guys r funny. DS oneshotts Sufer like Odin, then DS drains Thanos of his power and supes moves in for the kill. Team 1 10/10

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Superman > Silver Surfer

Darkseid > Thanos Incorrect on both accounts. The Surfer would hammer Superman and being able to assess his crippling weaknesses immediately. Darkseid doesnt have the durability to hang with Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Incorrect on both accounts. The Surfer would hammer Superman and being able to assess his crippling weaknesses immediately. Darkseid doesnt have the durability to hang with Thanos.

No, not incorrect.

Surfer hammering Superman ? Not going to happen. He doesn't have the necessary fighting speed and reflex to be able to keep up with Superman.

As for Darkseid getting beaten by Thanos, I'm not really going to discuss this with you since you are biased.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
No, not incorrect.

Surfer hammering Superman ? Not going to happen. He doesn't have the necessary fighting speed and reflex to be able to keep up with Superman.

As for Darkseid getting beaten by Thanos, I'm not really going to discuss this with you since you are biased. I could say the same about you as well but then again just saying that someone is biased isnt really a point now is it?

Surfer could pump him full of red solar energy or reproduce k-nite. I mean the Surfer is the perfect character to rape a Kryptnonian.

Darkseid has to many low showings to ignore. Thanos durability far exceeds Darkseid's. Even you have to admit that.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
LMAO, wow u guys r funny. DS oneshotts Sufer like Odin, then DS drains Thanos of his power and supes moves in for the kill. Team 1 10/10
when has any one being able to drain thanos of his power.
thanos mindrapes supes easily.
ds couldnt one shot the batman let alone surfer.surfer has enough in his locker for him to stall ds until thanos is finished with supes.

As a matter of fact, it does matter.

Even if I would show that Darkseid > Thanos, your love for the character wouldn't make you admit it.

Thus, I don't want to debate this with you since it's useless.



Surfer isn't fast enough to do something like that.

And you seem to be under the impression that red solar energy and the like puts Superman down rather easy. I could show you him being blasted with red sun energy while fighting a red sun eater and still keep going.

I could also show you him fighting a character who practically became the unified field theory and was able to affect all the four fundamental forces of the Universe trying to extract the solar energy out of him and he still managed to beat her.

Originally posted by LORD B
when has any one being able to drain thanos of his power.
thanos mindrapes supes easily.
ds couldnt one shot the batman let alone surfer.surfer has enough in his locker for him to stall ds until thanos is finished with supes. Lulz at using that as proof.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
As a matter of fact, it does matter.

Even if I would show that Darkseid > Thanos, your love for the character wouldn't make you admit it.

Thus, I don't want to debate this with you since it's useless.



Surfer isn't fast enough to do something like that.

And you seem to be under the impression that red solar energy and the like puts Superman down rather easy. I could show you him being blasted with red sun energy while fighting a red sun eater and still keep going.

I could also show you him fighting a character who practically became the unified field theory and was able to affect all the four fundamental forces of the Universe trying to extract the solar energy out of him and he still managed to beat her. The point is that it is still a crippling weakness for him along with k-nite. The Surfers power cosmic is also greater than Kal-el's krptonians' powers.

I do love Thanos but I firmly believe he does beat Darkseid, and I think most of the forum would now agree with me.

A weakness ? Yes.

A weakness that Silver Surfer will move fast enough to exploit ? No.

And I already explained that it's not as big of a weakness as most people think.



Greater as in versatility ? Sure.

As in helping him win this fight ? Not really.



Even if more people think nowdays that Thanos beats Darkseid, it's due to the permanent blabbering of how 'pathetic' he is and how many 'low showings' he has nowdays.

When in fact, with a few exceptions, every 'low showing' occured in special circumstances.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Lulz at using that as proof.

oh why,wasnt that pre crisis darkseid

On a physcial front, Surfer and Supes r equals. I still believe that because of K-nite surfer would get the win but it would be after a long and exhausting battle. DS on the other hand CAN oneshot the sufer and absorb Thanos of his powers...or simply destroy him with the omega beams. Either way frist team wins.

Originally posted by LORD B
oh why,wasnt that pre crisis darkseid No and I found that funny because that's not even how Darkseid is portrayed in most of his stories. Plus Batman has been oneshotted by Ds, every time he tried to step up to him. Plus Superman only has two clean wins against Darkseid. Plus Ds has dominated top tiers who could probally take a majority against Superman. Pretty much what I'm trying to say, is that your greatly underestimating Darkseid. Btw, how does Thanos not being drained by someone, proves he can't by effected that way? You know that could work against your agrument....just saying.

Thanos being drained by DS is like saying DS would get mind raped or turned to stone by thanos

Originally posted by Inhuman
Thanos being drained by DS is like saying DS would get mind raped or turned to stone by thanos Of course it is, it's not like Darkseid has shown immunity to powerful telepaths, or has been shown to use reality warp, that completely shits on any matter manipulator.....

Originally posted by Inhuman
Thanos being drained by DS is like saying DS would get mind raped or turned to stone by thanos

Not really. considering that DS has drained the powers from beings far stronger than Thanos and is well known as a pantheon-buster, it's not that crazy at all.

2nd, it's much more likely that DS would mindrape Thanos or turn him into stone. Anyone remember Validus?

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Of course it is, it's not like Darkseid has shown immunity to powerful telepaths, or has been shown to use reality warp, that completely shits on any matter manipulator.....

thanos is immune to reality warping.

Surfer is weak to mind attacks and its very well possible DS absorbs Surfers comic powers along with Thanos thus ehancing his own power. Either way team 1 wins.

Originally posted by LORD B
thanos is immune to reality warping.

BULLSHIT. He's resistant, he's certainly not immune.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Not really. considering that DS has drained the powers from beings far stronger than Thanos and is well known as a pantheon-buster, it's not that crazy at all.

2nd, it's much more likely that DS would mindrape Thanos or turn him into stone. Anyone remember Validus?

moondragon with the mind gem couldnt mind rape thanos i doubt ds could.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
A weakness ? Yes.

A weakness that Silver Surfer will move fast enough to exploit ? No.

And I already explained that it's not as big of a weakness as most people think.



Greater as in versatility ? Sure.

As in helping him win this fight ? Not really.



Even if more people think nowdays that Thanos beats Darkseid, it's due to the permanent blabbering of how 'pathetic' he is and how many 'low showings' he has nowdays.

When in fact, with a few exceptions, every 'low showing' occured in special circumstances. I think its funny as some on here claim the Surfer cant deal with speed. He can and would crush Superman. An overwhelming majority gives Surfer the win over Supes anyways. And to think Supes could just beat him down in moments is ignorant to say the very least. Supes hasnt shown any superiority against Orion. The fight seemed pretty even to me and again it supports my claim that this fight wouldnt end in moments like you think.

I think its funny that you dont see the power cosmic as dangerous when up against a Kryptonian.

Well again Ds does have some rather embarrassing showings as of late so why cant they be brought up. Darkseid regained his powers and looked horrible in the Superman/Batman comic.

Surfer, thanos take majority. imo

Thanos has 2 new heralds 131

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
BULLSHIT. He's resistant, he's certainly not immune. Thanos always remains true to himself. You saw the scan.

That still wont prevent DS from absorbing his power, DS operates on another level compared to Thanos. Just picture Thanos as Gladiator to DS's Superman.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
BULLSHIT. He's resistant, he's certainly not immune.

so your saying darkseids reality warping powers are greater than what thanos experienced when just into the nexus of reality?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Not really. considering that DS has drained the powers from beings far stronger than Thanos and is well known as a pantheon-buster, it's not that crazy at all.

2nd, it's much more likely that DS would mindrape Thanos or turn him into stone. Anyone remember Validus? I cant believe you would even think Ds could mindrape Thanos. Absurd to say the least. You talk of Darkseid busting up pantheons but show me some scans. Make a believer out of me. I have seen on panel a top tier making him beg for quarter.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
No and I found that funny because that's not even how Darkseid is portrayed in most of his stories. Plus Batman has been oneshotted by Ds, every time he tried to step up to him. Plus Superman only has two clean wins against Darkseid. Plus Ds has dominated top tiers who could probally take a majority against Superman. Pretty much what I'm trying to say, is that your greatly underestimating Darkseid. Btw, how does Thanos not being drained by someone, proves he can't by effected that way? You know that could work against your agrument....just saying. Name me all the beings that Darkseid has drained of their powers on panel.

Thanos almost mind raped Galactus.

Originally posted by LORD B
thanos is immune to reality warping. Other than that scan of him traveling through that dimension thingy and withstanding it's effects, there's nothing to prove that Thanos can resist Ds's reality warp. And the fact that Darkseid can reality warp, fly, teleport, and etc, should prove that he is more powerful than the Mad Titan, don't you think?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think its funny as some on here claim the Surfer cant deal with speed. He can and would crush Superman. An overwhelming majority gives Surfer the win over Supes anyways. And to think Supes could just beat him down in moments is ignorant to say the very least. Supes hasnt shown any superiority against Orion. The fight seemed pretty even to me and again it supports my claim that this fight wouldnt end in moments like you think.

I think its funny that you dont see the power cosmic as dangerous when up against a Kryptonian.

Well again Ds does have some rather embarrassing showings as of late so why cant they be brought up. Darkseid regained his powers and looked horrible in the Superman/Batman comic.

Orion is a bad example, considering that he usually matches up physically against Superman evenly without using the AF to amp, something Surfer could never do.

They give Surfer the win due to exploiting Superman's weaknesses, nobody's crazy enough to think Surfer can win a slugfest or by just blasting.

PC is good, but regrettably, it's vastly overrated on this forum, as is 'cosmic awareness' .

I also find it very interesting that you constantly use S/B as your examples to bash DS. It's funny, because EVERYONE except Superman&Batman looks terrible in that book. Anyone who shows up in that book who isn't named Superman or Batman gets screwed over. Despero got one-shotted, DS got screwed twice, Brainiac got beat by the metal men, Supes beat down 20 supervillains during one issue.

So if you want to use a PIS crap writing throw-away book like S/B, be my guest. but it does not do you any credit that it seems to be the ONLY piece of evidence you cite.

So why would surfer get into slugfest with superman? He has alot of other ways to beat him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Name me all the beings that Darkseid has drained of their powers on panel. Apokolips in foundations, the pantheons, Mordru, the Controller, and etc. He also empowered Mantis whom is a powerful energy drainer. And don't you dare give me that lame ass Gds is non canon argument. I don't like to recap bullshit like that.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Apokolips in foundations, the pantheons, Mordru, the Controller, and etc. He also empowered Mantis whom is a powerful energy drainer. And don't you dare give me that lame ass Gds is non canon argument. I don't like to recap bullshit like that. I know you were going to bring up Gds but as we all know it isnt canon to Ds. Its a futuristic story.

Actually, Foundations proves you wrong. The GDS feats are indirectly applicable. BECAUSE HE BEAT GDS DARKSEID. Everything GDS Darkseid did, was done in a weakened state. Even after draining Mordru and a controller, he still wasn't at full power. Hell, GDS 'seid and Young Darkseid were both soloing the LSH.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I know you were going to bring up Gds but as we all know it isnt canon to Ds. Its a futuristic story. Blah, blah, not canon. Same character and weaker aswell. You can keep on believing that, not matter how much it negates logic.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Orion is a bad example, considering that he usually matches up physically against Superman evenly without using the AF to amp, something Surfer could never do.

They give Surfer the win due to exploiting Superman's weaknesses, nobody's crazy enough to think Surfer can win a slugfest or by just blasting.

PC is good, but regrettably, it's vastly overrated on this forum, as is 'cosmic awareness' .

I also find it very interesting that you constantly use S/B as your examples to bash DS. It's funny, because EVERYONE except Superman&Batman looks terrible in that book. Anyone who shows up in that book who isn't named Superman or Batman gets screwed over. Despero got one-shotted, DS got screwed twice, Brainiac got beat by the metal men, Supes beat down 20 supervillains during one issue.

So if you want to use a PIS crap writing throw-away book like S/B, be my guest. but it does not do you any credit that it seems to be the ONLY piece of evidence you cite. Power cosmic isnt overrated but the astro force sure the hell is imo. Power cosmic exploits Supes weaknesses and that you cant deny.

Superman and Batman is canon to dc so you must deal with it. Just because you dont like something and have no valid reason why its not canon just accept it. Be mad at the writers not at me for bringing it up.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Actually, Foundations proves you wrong. The GDS feats are indirectly applicable. BECAUSE HE BEAT GDS DARKSEID. Everything GDS Darkseid did, was done in a weakened state. Even after draining Mordru and a controller, he still wasn't at full power. Hell, GDS 'seid and Young Darkseid were both soloing the LSH. Watch him say Darkseid looked bad in foundations.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Blah, blah, not canon. Same character and weaker aswell. You can keep on believing that, not matter how much it negates logic. Nah it isnt. Digimark ruled it to not be canon. Darkseid has never replicated the vast mind control he had since that story. Its not canon and logic agrees with me.

You know what. Prove it. Prove to me, that S/B is canon. I guarantee you can't find a single reference to anything in it outside the book itself. And while you're at it, prove to me WHEN it occured. Because the timeline makes no sense and it's not referenced anywhere.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Other than that scan of him traveling through that dimension thingy and withstanding it's effects, there's nothing to prove that Thanos can resist Ds's reality warp. And the fact that Darkseid can reality warp, fly, teleport, and etc, should prove that he is more powerful than the Mad Titan, don't you think?

id say withstanding the effects of the nexus is a pretty big deal considering its point were all realitys meet.

as for darksied being able to fly,what good is that gonna do when thanos can levatate himself off the ground anyway.also thanos is able to teleport.other than the omega effect which imo thanos could withstand or absorb ds has no other chance of winning.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Power cosmic isnt overrated but the astro force sure the hell is imo. Power cosmic exploits Supes weaknesses and that you cant deny.

Superman and Batman is canon to dc so you must deal with it. Just because you dont like something and have no valid reason why its not canon just accept it. Be mad at the writers not at me for bringing it up. Good god, there's so much hypocrisy in this post. For example, you using the it's canon excuse, when your always trying to debunk that Squirrel girl incident.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Actually, Foundations proves you wrong. The GDS feats are indirectly applicable. BECAUSE HE BEAT GDS DARKSEID. Everything GDS Darkseid did, was done in a weakened state. Even after draining Mordru and a controller, he still wasn't at full power. Hell, GDS 'seid and Young Darkseid were both soloing the LSH. In foundations he hadnt absorbed Mordru's powers. He came back and got trounced by his younger self before he could amp his powers.

The two Seids had help or did you forget Superman,Orion,Lobo,etc. helping them. One Seid even used the Losh against the other Seid. Did you read it?

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Good god, there's so much hypocrisy in this post. For example, you using the it's canon excuse, when your always trying to debunk that Squirrel girl incident. We arent talking about Thanos and that isnt canon to his character.

Originally posted by LORD B
id say withstanding the effects of the nexus is a pretty big deal considering its point were all reality meet.
as for darksied being able to fly,what good is that gonna do when thanos can levatate himself off the ground anyway.also thanos is able to teleport.other than the omega effect which imo thanos could with stand or absorb ds has no other chance of winning. Thanos can't teleport without tech from my understanding. Also levititating<<<<<<<<flying to the Source wall in minutes.

From what i know, mindraping or draining Thanos is not out of the realm fo possiblity for DS. If anything its statment that remains true to DS powerset, DS under his own power is what what Thanos would be with the powergem. Team 2 doesnt have a shot.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Thanos can't teleport without tech from my understanding. Also levititating<<<<<<<<flying to the Source wall in minutes. I thought you followed my debate with desaad and in it I provided a scan of Thanos teleporting without tech.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You know what. Prove it. Prove to me, that S/B is canon. I guarantee you can't find a single reference to anything in it outside the book itself. And while you're at it, prove to me WHEN it occured. Because the timeline makes no sense and it's not referenced anywhere. This book is canon to dc. Its a good read to boot. Great art and great stories. It backs itself up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In foundations he hadnt absorbed Mordru's powers. He came back and got trounced by his younger self before he could amp his powers.

The two Seids had help or did you forget Superman,Orion,Lobo,etc. helping them. One Seid even used the Losh against the other Seid. Did you read it? Lol my point proven. I love how you fail to mention how Ds held his own against all of those top tiers and that the group with Superboy needed to unite in order to push Darkseid through a boomtube.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Lol my point proven. I love how you fail to mention how Ds held his own against all of those top tiers and that the group with Superboy needed to unite in order to push Darkseid through a boomtube. The pushed Darkseid through because they didnt want to hurt him. They easily bfr'd him. The other Darkseid stole his boys powers and was knocked out for 1000 years, by puberty Superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I thought you followed my debate with desaad and in it I provided a scan of Thanos teleporting without tech. It's been a while, can you direct me to the instance?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
From what i know, mindraping or draining Thanos is not out of the realm fo possiblity for DS. If anything its statment that remains true to DS powerset, DS under his own power is what what Thanos would be with the powergem. Team 2 doesnt have a shot.

I forgot that DS was an abstract for second.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The pushed Darkseid through because they didnt want to hurt him. They easily bfr'd him. The other Darkseid stole his boys powers and was knocked out for 1000 years, by puberty Superman. Misinterpretated garbage. Where did it say that they weren't trying to hurt him? And it was pretty obvious that the old Darkseid exhausted because he was weakening FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE STORY. Hence why he needed young Darkseid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This book is canon to dc. Its a good read to boot. Great art and great stories. It backs itself up.

GLA is cannon to Marvel.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Thanos can't teleport without tech from my understanding. Also levititating<<<<<<<<flying to the Source wall in minutes.

so its a flying race now then,or is gonna fly round him all day then

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Misinterpretated garbage. Where did it say that they weren't trying to hurt him? And it was pretty obvious that the old Darkseid exhausted because he was weakening FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE STORY. Hence why he needed young Darkseid. Old Ds was a plie of poo hence he needed young Ds. They both were defeated.

The Losh wanted him back to his time and thats where he ended up while no one was injured.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
GLA is cannon to Marvel. Well it goes against his character. Anyways this isnt about Thanos.

Originally posted by Inhuman
I forgot that DS was an abstract for second.
thanos can not be mind raped

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well it goes against his character. Anyways this isnt about Thanos.

and many of Darkseid showings go against his character, but you don't seem to mind

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
It's been a while, can you direct me to the instance? The one where he was separated from Warlock battling 25,000 religious zealots and then he teleported back to them.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and many of Darkseid showings go against his character, but you don't seem to mind Name them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Name them.

The Batman kick for one, you have been going off on that for months now

Also talked about DS tripping on the stairs, but ignored the context of it

Originally posted by King_Mungi
The Batman kick for one, you have been going off on that for months now

Also talked about DS tripping on the stairs, but ignored the context of it He fell down the steps because he was powerless. Batman was amped when he made Darkseid bleed. And how is any of this Darkseid acting out of character. Its funny how yo compare the two when one had a plot while one didnt. The sg comic had no plot concerning Thanos and he was defeated off panel for two.

That's wat Thanos fanboys do, in spite of DS obviouse superiority some trolls attempt to detur DS power by surfacing low showings in hopes it will downplay DS character. I mean I can play that same game too but saying Thanos defeat at the hands of Drax was worst then any loss DS has ever had.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He fell down the steps because he was powerless. Batman was amped when he made Darkseid bleed. And how is any of this Darkseid acting out of character. Its funny how yo compare the two when one had a plot while one didnt. The sg comic had no plot concerning Thanos and he was defeated off panel for two.

and yet you keep bringing up those two events over and over again and not addressing the context. Also Batman was amped? Hell last time Batman was amped when he fought DS, DS literally destroyed him.

So basically any character who isn't the focal point of the plot and loses in a comic makes it non-canon? Seriously just stop.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and yet you keep bringing up those two events over and over again and not addressing the context. Also Batman was amped? Hell last time Batman was amped when he fought DS, DS literally destroyed him.

So basically any character who isn't the focal point of the plot and loses in a comic makes it non-canon? Seriously just stop. Huh well first off I have been leaving out content. Thanos as a character has evolved from the guy who wanted to destroy the universe and wasnt about that anymore. Post ig the only Thanos apperances where he was out to do this later turned out to be clones. So you see if you would actually read the sg comic you would know it isnt how Thanos acts anymore. Throw in Thanos just showing up and losing off panel and what do you have. It doesnt add up.

But lets just say we count it and Ill humor you sg doesnt have any losses so is it really a low showing.

Oh and with regards to the Batman ampes they were two different amps so thus they amped him differently.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Huh well first off I have been leaving out content. Thanos as a character has evolved from the guy who wanted to destroy the universe and wasnt about that anymore. Post ig the only Thanos apperances where he was out to do this later turned out to be clones. So you see if you would actually read the sg comic you would know it isnt how Thanos acts anymore. Throw in Thanos just showing up and losing off panel and what do you have. It doesnt add up.

But lets just say we count it and Ill humor you sg doesnt have any losses so is it really a low showing.

All you would say is "Darkseid greatest enemy is stairs lol", "Darkseid got beat my stairs", "Batman made Darkseid bleed from a kick", etc, etc, etc. You do realize all that doesn't make it non-canon right? It can be PIS, CIS or just bad writing, but it's still canon. Just because it goes against a character doesn't make it non-canon it's just sloppy writing.

Which is fine, as I have a problem with you saying what is canon and what is not.

You know wat esle is slopp writing, SS loses to Thanos. By feats it shoudl easily be SS>>>Thanos but meh, wonky marvel writers.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
You know wat esle is slopp writing, SS loses to Thanos. By feats it shoudl easily be SS>>>Thanos but meh, wonky marvel writers.

Not really, by feats Thanos > SS.

Unless you are talking about some non-combat feats.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
You know wat esle is slopp writing, SS loses to Thanos. By feats it shoudl easily be SS>>>Thanos but meh, wonky marvel writers.

you complain about people using the same example against darkseid,yet you use this reason all the time?
how is it wonky writing,thanos has taken everything surfer has to offer and it had know effect.thanso is superior even every department except speed.
give me examples of wonky writing then!!

Here's wonky writing, Thanos can be cut by wolverine and is yet uneffected by Surfer. Thanos staing he is afriad of Hulk yet SS cant beat him WTF

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Here's wonky writing, Thanos can be cut by wolverine and is yet uneffected by Surfer. Thanos staing he is afriad of Hulk yet SS cant beat him WTF

That would be writing that contradicts with Thanos average showings.

And he never said he was afraid of Hulk.

if i remember correctly wolverine cut surfer before, so what it means nothing.abc logic!!
thanos said it was a conflict he sought to aviod, not that he feared hulk,anyway thaos has put hulk inline before.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/booie2008/bitchslap.jpg

Originally posted by The Great Galen
SS >>> Thanos




http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/Thanospossespowercosmic.png


Thanos solos this f*cking thread.

A lot of fans agree that SS should be ranked above Thanos, it only makes sense based on there feats and such. I mean Drax killed Thanos and Drax isnt exactly SS...regardless DS solos this.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
A lot of fans agree that SS should be ranked above Thanos, it only makes sense based on there feats and such. I mean Drax killed Thanos and Drax isnt exactly SS...regardless DS solos this.

Drax was made for the sole purpose of killing Thanos.

And a lot of fans are wrong.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
A lot of fans agree that SS should be ranked above Thanos, it only makes sense based on there feats and such. I mean Drax killed Thanos and Drax isnt exactly SS...regardless DS solos this.
seriously im not trying to be an ass, how does ds solo?

Thanos

Originally posted by quanchi112
This book is canon to dc. Its a good read to boot. Great art and great stories. It backs itself up.

No it doesn't. There isn't a single thing in that book that gets referenced elsewhere.

Once again, PROVE IT! Prove it, you worthless hypocritical biased excuse for a debator.

Btw, snatching guys like Orion from the timestream and controlling them isn't a feat? Soloing and controling the LSH, isn't a feat? Standing up to their full firepower before he boosted his power via pantheon killing ISN'T A FEAT?!

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No it doesn't. There isn't a single thing in that book that gets referenced elsewhere.

Once again, PROVE IT! Prove it, you worthless hypocritical biased excuse for a debator.

Btw, snatching guys like Orion from the timestream and controlling them isn't a feat? Soloing and controling the LSH, isn't a feat? Standing up to their full firepower before he boosted his power via pantheon killing ISN'T A FEAT?!

No

Stay out of this. And how is that an answer? If you can't prove that S/B is canon, (and most evidence including the bizarre lapses of continuity and shit writing indicates it's not), then it can't be used to bash DS.

Cry more

Originally posted by quanchi112
This book is canon to dc. Its a good read to boot. Great art and great stories. It backs itself up. Wow no proof provided.

Nice.

The way I see it, it comes down to this:
Which hero will be less distracted by his "partner"?
I say that the surfer has the edge here. With his cosmic awareness, he can watch his own back a little better that Supes can ('cause neither Thanos or Darkseid can be trusted, obviously). Being less distracted, SS can fight more efectively- and I think he's MARGINALLY more powerful than Superman (at the very least, he has superior distance attacks).
the winners: Silver Surfer and Thanos
P.S. The Surfer is killed immediately afterwards by Thanos.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No it doesn't. There isn't a single thing in that book that gets referenced elsewhere.

Once again, PROVE IT! Prove it, you worthless hypocritical biased excuse for a debator.

Btw, snatching guys like Orion from the timestream and controlling them isn't a feat? Soloing and controling the LSH, isn't a feat? Standing up to their full firepower before he boosted his power via pantheon killing ISN'T A FEAT?! Even you say that the Superman/Batman arc is canon so why do I have to prove anything to you. And you call me biased when you yourself admit you are dc biased.

Darkseid's henchmen snatched Orion from the timestream. Ds was still out. If you read it youd know this.

Darkseid stood up to them because he was stealing his means powers but ultimately got crushed by puberty Superman. It was a bad,bad showing for Darkseid.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Stay out of this. And how is that an answer? If you can't prove that S/B is canon, (and most evidence including the bizarre lapses of continuity and shit writing indicates it's not), then it can't be used to bash DS. Your yourself admit its canon.

Superman/Batman is canon.

Using only low showings for one character and only high showing for another character isn't good debating.

The thread starter only said the fight takes place on Earth, not DC or Marvel Earth. In a neutral universe Surfer can't use Kryptonite on Superman because it's a different universe and it won't effect him and that's assuming Surfer could make Kryptonite. Red sun radiation isn't a well known weakness and not public knowledge. Also, red sun radiation is considered power draining which the thread starter said wasn't allowed.

Quan and Trick, I suggest you both put each other on ignore for your own good.

Closed for now.....