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No prep.

Who takes it?

Debate.

This is a joke right?

of couse, I think the Joker has a good shot vs Green Gobin.

But not so sure vs Carnage.

According to some, Joker could easily take Spidey. Does the Joker have a chance of taking Carnage?

Carnage is Spidermans better all around.....and how could joker take spidey?

This defies all logic.

Joker has a shot with his gases, tricks and tactics. vs Spiderman, or at least give him a run for his money, but I dont think any of the Joker's gases would affect Carnage as the alien suit protects him from that.

Originally posted by Zenoside
Carnage is Spidermans better all around.....and how could joker take spidey?

This defies all logic.

Beats me. I think Spidey would kill the Joker. Then again opinions vary.

I really like Joker...I really do.
But Spiderman is smarter than joker, way smarter. And his tricks would be no use with Spider sense and agility added to that. Gasses, well those could tip the scales if used right. However, spiderman has gotten out of range of gasses before. Even from being in point blank range.

Well he can sense the danger, but I dont think he would know it came from the flower if it hits him. Joker has more than tricks, and I think tactic wise, Joker is smarter than Peter, Joker had to be smart to make that gas or bombs or anything else of his toys.

Originally posted by Joker1237
Well he can sense the danger, but I dont think he would know it came from the flower if it hits him. Joker has more than tricks, and I think tactic wise, Joker is smarter than Peter, Joker had to be smart to make that gas or bombs or anything else of his toys.
Or...joker could buy them from the Black Market. I'm not trying to understimate the Clown Prince of Crime here. However, Spidey's spidersense is like a personal radar, he knows where its coming from, but bot specificly what danger it is.

Spiderman uses tactics on a daily basis, its how he beats villains like Rhino and gets away from people like Carnage.

Well the Joker useings his wits to deal with Supes or WW, if Batman calls for there help. OR to deal with any other Supervillain if need be. Forget about the Bane thing in no man's land lol.

I sure the Joker if giving the right planing and timeing, could even beat Spiderman.

But Carnage is more powerful than Spidy.

This is about as balanced as the "Galactus vs. a squirrel thread"

Carnage................

1. Spiderman isnt smarter than The Joker.
2. Eventhough i hate to say it, Carnage would probably kill him.

3. Does Joker have any super-sonic devises? I could have sworn he hasd a clown horn that was, but i have to check that one out.

Carnage wins.

He isn't more cunning, but should beat him in scientific knowledge.

Spidey isn't more cunning than the joker, but beats him in scientific knowledge.

Uhh. Jokers specialty IS scientific knowledge CM. The mans brilliant.

Sonics doesn't hurt Carnage as much as it hurts Venom. He's more sensitive to fire.

Joker doesnt really care the kind of weaponry needed to survive against something like this.Carnage also is very likely to just kill him as soon as look at him and the confrontation wont last long

Originally posted by jrodslam
Uhh. Jokers specialty IS scientific knowledge CM. The mans brilliant.
Can you prove this? Cause I'm having a hard time thinking that Joker would sit in a lab and make up all of his own stuff.

I'd think forcing innocent scientists to do it with electrodes attached to thier genetals would be more his style.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Uhh. Jokers specialty IS scientific knowledge CM. The mans brilliant.

Sorry, but like batman I don't really see him DIRECTLY use it, kind of how bat doesn't make many of his tools he is so proificient with.

Spidey's all about science as well.

Originally posted by Next Venom_girl
Sonics doesn't hurt Carnage as much as it hurts Venom. He's more sensitive to fire.

Oh yea? Cool. I didnt know fire was the main weakness. Interesting.

I know this one might not count, but the Batman movie Joker(Nicholson) had a lighter that was a flame thower.

Which is my favorite movie of all time by the way.

Really

Yea fire is easier to come by and more effective than sonics.

But make no mistake, he's no weaker to it than you or i, its just one of the things he's suspectible to, a lighter wouldn't do it alone, (which I'm sure u know)

Of course.

Carnage would gut him like a fish.

For Joker's sake it better be a heck of a lighter. Only with bad writing can a symbiote be defeated with a normal lighter. With equally bad writing they can withstand a nuclear holocaust.

lol I love this chick.

I don't think it's been established that Joker designs any of his tech (or Batman for that matter) but I could be wrong. But that's besides the point because there is no prep time. Joker is carnaged by Carnage.

How many pieces would joker's pale nasty body be in?

I think carnage would use Jokers intestines as a new fashion statement.

Canage's symbiote is perfect, shame on you!!!

if Carnage is weak to fire, which is new to me, I think the Joker may bring along a flame thower or something in that nature.

But does he know, THAT, is the question

Joker has pull out some shocking things in that tux, The Tux is like Batman's belt in some ways lol.

Bah carnage would eat him by that time.

You really like Joker dontcha? hehe

Question: If there's no prep can he bring a flamethrower?
Joker shouldn't know about weaknesses unless the weakness is common knowledge I think according to the rules.

I think he lose this one, BUT I would not be surpise if he had some fire weapon on him. This is a guy that carrys along a deadly joy buzzer, I sure he have the fire pie in the face thing in there some were.

It isn't THAT easy, but it would be effective, carnage is uberstrong, but is just suspectible to it, just like joker would be.

wow big words.....where's my dictionary? jk

Dexterity,charisma, manipulation, butcher, carnage, venom(not poison), ambidextrious, get busy on that,lol.

like I said, Joker would lose, But he put up some kinda of fight, he be able to get his laughing gas off or something, I not sure if it would affect the suit.

Now that I think of it, The Joker does have fire on him all the time.

oh yeah and other thing that may be the turning point of the battle. Were he hides the bomb.

Thats no more dangerous than a pumpkin bomb.

Originally posted by Zenoside
Can you prove this? Cause I'm having a hard time thinking that Joker would sit in a lab and make up all of his own stuff.

I'd think forcing innocent scientists to do it with electrodes attached to thier genetals would be more his style.


Batman even stated himself that Joker's mind is extremely intellectual specially in the field of chemistry. That was said often enough.
The guy is brilliant. Don't be fooled by his antics. Most of the things he has have been made by him and him alone not scientists

No I understand he is cunning, bbut I simply never knew he
"built" his own items, even batmandoesn't do that.

Well Joker does not need to Build a car or plane, He steals em.

Manily its the bombs and gases and other weapons that he makes.

And if you want to know, That bomb COULD level a whole city, Joker is standing by a nuke in the background lol.

Carnage vs Joker???

This'd last about... ooh, two, maybe three seconds?

Carnage would rend him limb from limb.

What is all the fuss............Carnage.