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None of the speed blitz nonsense. This is an actual battle, all out, fight to the death.

Fight takes place on..... Daxam?

who wins?

Team 2. Quite easely.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Team 2. Quite easely.

Explain?

Surfer punches out Thor, and then solos team one.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Surfer punches out Thor, and then solos team one.

Superman takes it solo.

teth pwns surfer
sups stalemates with thor for a while then teh blindsides ftw

Surfer analyzes Kal and blasts him with radiation bursts that weaken him. It's my own opinion that Thor > BA, but even if he isn't, the first sentence is the clincher.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
teth pwns surfer

Surfer bursts Supes with red sun radiaton or Thor siphons the energy of the sun inside him, owns him with magic or abuses of any other cheap way of taking Supes.

While one owns Clark the other fights Teth until its two against one. From there is downhill for the DC team.

Surfer absorb energy out of Sups, and then go blast the shit out Black Adam who run for his life.

Thor arrives late and ask Surfer where the two challengers are.

Surfer could take them pretty much on his own probably 6/10

Superman throws "S" shield as BA, then punches thor & surfer to death.

Thor beats BA physically to death while the Surfer has Superman kneeling in a corner pleading for his life.

The fact that blitz had to be taken out to make it a more fair fight pretty much sums up team 1's superiority.

Supes beats Thor (again) and BA beats Surfer.

Allow the speedblitzing and team 2 still takes it.

Originally posted by Avlon
The fact that blitz had to be taken out to make it a more fair fight pretty much sums up team 1's superiority.

Supes beats Thor (again) and BA beats Surfer.

If speed was in then surfer blitzes all 3 before any1 has time to twitch.

Originally posted by Avlon
The fact that blitz had to be taken out to make it a more fair fight pretty much sums up team 1's superiority.

Supes beats Thor (again) and BA beats Surfer.

I'll allow blitzing then.

Originally posted by Inhuman
If speed was in then surfer blitzes all 3 before any1 has time to twitch.
Considering Surfer can't beat either of these two, I doubt it.

I'm almost inclined to say that Surfer solo's this, but then i'd miss out on all the fun of Thor beating the hell out of Black Adam.

Originally posted by Inhuman
If speed was in then surfer blitzes all 3 before any1 has time to twitch.

Except Surfer hasn't shown that kind of fighting speed....like ever...

If you need to get somewhere though...he's your man...hang ten dude! Teh spacewave iz coming!


Originally posted by Larceny
I'll allow blitzing then.

Then team 1 wins.




Originally posted by tkitna
I'm almost inclined to say that Surfer solo's this, but then i'd miss out on all the fun of Thor beating the hell out of Black Adam.

And I'd miss the fun of a good LOL at your expense.

Originally posted by Avlon

And I'd miss the fun of a good LOL at your expense.

Nah, spare no expense on my account. I just dont see Superman or BA beating the Surfer during a bloodlusted fight. Surfers to powerful.

I'd gladly read your opinion on the matter though.

Uhh....guys? What color is Valor?

Team two in a walk.

Originally posted by Soljer
Uhh....guys? What color is Valor?

Caucasian

http://i7.tinypic.com/8gida2b.jpg

Originally posted by Val
Caucasian

http://i7.tinypic.com/8gida2b.jpg

Wrong Valor.

team two

What's more likely to happen? Superman using his speed or Norrnin Radd analyzing a opponents weakness?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
What's more likely to happen? Superman using his speed or Norrnin Radd anylzing a opponents weakness?

Speed? What speed?

Originally posted by Soljer
Speed? What speed? Are you serious?

Supes and Adam using thier speed would probably come first. Surfer analyzing Supes weakness wouldn't make a difference, Surfer only has one real weakness that he can use against Supes and that's k-nite. Supes shown to be very resistant to it and can dodge those blasts with superspeed. Rather Surfer expliot his weakness or not won't really make much of a huge difference. Team one ftw.

Originally posted by dvampire
Supes and Adam using thier speed would probably come first. ermm

Originally posted by snoopdogg
What's more likely to happen? Superman using his speed or Norrnin Radd analyzing a opponents weakness?
Other: Superman one shotting Surfer with a right hook

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Are you serious?

One hundred percent.

Originally posted by Val
Other: Superman one shotting Surfer with a right hook

Not with the smiling face of Valor there.

What is this Valor you speak of?

So it's more likely Norrin Radd will do something he's never done(shoot K-nite or red sun) than it will be for Supes to use his combat speed(note I said combat) in a fight?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
So it's more likely Norrin Radd will do something he's never done(shoot K-nite or red sun) than it will be for Supes to use his combat speed(note I said combat) in a fight?

You really believe Supes speed is going to effect Surfer? It may pose a problem for Thor, but Surfer? I doubt that, especially when I highly doubt Supes combat speed has eclipsed the speed of C.

Surfer and Thor take this.

K-Nite blast FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Val
What is this Valor you speak of?

Valor is the red sun of Daxam.

Originally posted by Bentley
Thor siphons the energy of the sun inside him
Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thor specializes in that.

Originally posted by Soljer
Valor is the red sun of Daxam.
Superman uses T-Vo and turns it yellow.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
ermm


They often use their speed in fights, it normally takes Surfer a while before he starts to scanning a targets weakness. Heck, as soon Surfer and Thor throw an energy blasts at Supes or Adam, will certainly cause them to use their combat speed, especially Surfer, since fighting from a distance is always what he does anyways.

Originally posted by Val
Superman uses T-Vo and turns it yellow.


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No, really...I don't think I have anything even slightly resembling a response for that.

Just...

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Originally posted by Larceny
You really believe Supes speed is going to effect Surfer? It may pose a problem for Thor, but Surfer? I doubt that, especially when I highly doubt Supes combat speed has eclipsed the speed of C.

Thor's speed pose a prblem for Surfer, so Supes and Adams speed will cause an even greater problem.

Originally posted by dvampire
They often use their speed in fights, it normally takes Surfer a while before he starts to scanning a targets weakness. Heck, as soon Surfer and Thor throw an energy blasts at Supes or Adam, will certainly cause them to use their combat speed, especially Surfer, since fighting from a distance is always what he does anyways.
Nevermind...

Originally posted by dvampire
Thor's speed pose a prblem for Surfer,

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Nevermind...



It did. So much that Thor was able to KO him and this was done without all the crazy hand movement speeds that Supes and Adam can do.

Originally posted by Soljer
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No, really...I don't think I have anything even slightly resembling a response for that.

Just...

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ermmdance

Originally posted by dvampire
It did. So much that Thor was able to KO him and this was done without all the crazy hand movement speeds that Supes and Adam can do. He swung his hammer when Surfer was apparently standing still...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
He swung his hammer when Surfer was apparently standing still...

Wow! Guess you must have overlooked the part where Surfer stated that he was going all out and stated that Thor's speed was to much for him. How come Surfer never speedbiltz Thor with his superior speed?

Originally posted by Val
Considering Surfer can't beat either of these two, I doubt it.
















Yeah right... Smoke crack much?

TEAM 2 in a stomp

Originally posted by Val
Other: Superman one shotting Surfer with a right hook

You mean... good old physical violence is easier than attempting to scan, recreate, and use a rare substance from a different dimension that may not work due to the new rules dc has set while in the middle of a battle?

Originally posted by Soljer
....

No, really...I don't think I have anything even slightly resembling a response for that.

Just...

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surfer imprisons supes in his board and thor sends every1 to another dimension

Originally posted by Inhuman
surfer imprisons supes in his board and thor sends every1 to another dimension

That has absolutely nothing to do with what we were discussing.

Supes blitzes SS to quick ko while BA goes toe to toe with Thor.
Supes comes in and blitzes Thor for win.

Originally posted by dvampire
Wow! Guess you must have overlooked the part where Surfer stated that he was going all out and stated that Thor's speed was to much for him. How come Surfer never speedbiltz Thor with his superior speed? Now, ignoring the first part... where the hell did Surfer state Thor's speed was too much for him?

Surfer has speedblitzed Thor... and beat him in less than three pages...

Also D-Dog, didn't Superman once have trouble catching Deathstroke once?

Originally posted by h1a8
Supes blitzes SS to quick ko while BA goes toe to toe with Thor.
Supes comes in and blitzes Thor for win. Honestly... do you know of anything else to say besides someone getting blitzed?

Every post I've seen you post is someone going too fast, and winning.

Originally posted by h1a8
Supes blitzes SS to quick ko while BA goes toe to toe with Thor.
Supes comes in and blitzes Thor for win.

Surfer is maybe faster than Flash.
Your tailing me that the Boy Scout stand a chance to someone as strong as him and who have a versality of power that maybe even surpass the one of the Green Lantern?!

Surfer before the fight with his cosmic awarness know the weaknesses of Sups. In the first second, Sups is as feeble as a baby of 6 month. Thor go smash his head while Surfer give the beaing of his life to Black Adam.

So this match takes place on a planet orbited by a red sun, and there's no speedblitz?

Are you trying to make a spite thread?

Originally posted by dvampire
Supes and Adam using thier speed would probably come first. Surfer analyzing Supes weakness wouldn't make a difference, Surfer only has one real weakness that he can use against Supes and that's k-nite. Supes shown to be very resistant to it and can dodge those blasts with superspeed. Rather Surfer expliot his weakness or not won't really make much of a huge difference. Team one ftw.

Someone already pointed out the red sun around Daxam that would unbalance this fight in favor of team 2 as Superman's powers begin to exhaust themselves.

That aside...

To make it seem like more of a team fight, Superman would probably attempt to take Surfer's initial blast to test his mettle (assuming no prior knowledge of either) but at the last moment the warrior king Black Adam either shoves Supes out of the way or takes the blast himself. He then explains to Superman that Surfer's move was too calculated and the blast had a touch of kryptonite to it. Then they move to blitzing speed. For the storyline of course.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
So this match takes place on a planet orbited by a red sun, and there's no speedblitz?

Are you trying to make a spite thread?

Shut up.

Thor and Surfer would win in so many ways.

Surfer just BFR's Adam in the beginning of the fight...then absorbs Supes energy as Thor beats him to death, or prepares a god blast, or they simply tag team him. Or he tosses his board at Superman (knowing Supes he'd undoubtedly try to catch it), and trap in in his board. Double BFR. Too many scenarios to even list.

There's no way Superman can blitz or one shot surfer, that's for sure.

As a team Thor and Surfer win 10/10

Surfer would solo the team 6/10

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Surfer is maybe faster than Flash.
Your tailing me that the Boy Scout stand a chance to someone as strong as him and who have a versality of power that maybe even surpass the one of the Green Lantern?!

Surfer before the fight with his cosmic awarness know the weaknesses of Sups. In the first second, Sups is as feeble as a baby of 6 month. Thor go smash his head while Surfer give the beaing of his life to Black Adam.

Surfer is very slow in battle. Traveling speed doesn't equal battle speed and reflexes (SS has terrible ones). I'm pretty sure that Spider-man can blitz SS on land (not that he would do much damage though). When the fight starts Supes hits SS first. Then he hits him again before SS recovers and then again...until ko.
Then Supes joins BA in the fight against Thor. Supes does the same to Thor.

Originally posted by Madvillain
Thor and Surfer would win in so many ways.

Surfer just BFR's Adam in the beginning of the fight...then absorbs Supes energy as Thor beats him to death, or prepares a god blast, or they simply tag team him. Or he tosses his board at Superman (knowing Supes he'd undoubtedly try to catch it), and trap in in his board. Double BFR. Too many scenarios to even list.

There's no way Superman can blitz or one shot surfer, that's for sure.

As a team Thor and Surfer win 10/10

Surfer would solo the team 6/10

Surfer can't BFR BA.
Surfer is a very slow dude in battle. Please read some SS comics.
Supes is too fast for anything to work on him here (Supes at his top speed). He koes SS while BA deals with Thor.
Then joins BA to ko Thor.

If Surfer is slow in battle, its only because he chose to be. He has way to many speed feats for him to be the slug you make him out to be. I mean, just even looking at the respect thread gives you these -

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7940/story2page01combatwa4.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/373/silversurferv306104ma8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1935/silversurfer199003316ik9.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/48/marvelcomicspresents001fk4.jpg

And if that doesnt work, this is always an option -
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6765/silversurfer03603iy4.jpg

Those are nice but hardly that impressive in this company. Spider-Man/Cap A/etc can dodge a punch from Hulk. They've been known to 'dodge' bullets/lasers. Missles (is that what's coming off his right shoulder) are easier. Another straight-forward travel based speed feat.

Only the one with Impossible Man is even analagous to the type of superspeed fighting blitzing implies.

Admittedly I like the last scan but none of these guys are as weak as She-Hulk by a long shot.

I dont know, but it just seems that the Surfer is way to versatile.

I dont like to refer to the respect page because we all know the character, but damn. What cant he do? He has shown signs of just about everything to me. I mean phasing and matter manipulation are just two other things we havent touched upon.

Really, if written properly, no top tier heros should even be in the same league.

The problem with SS is his battle speed.
If SS was as fast (reflexes too) as Superman in battle then I would easily give him the majority over Superman. I mean Supes will beat him to the punch everytime in a battle. It doesn't matter what type of power Surfer has because he won't be getting to use it (unless he has prep).

Originally posted by tkitna
I dont know, but it just seems that the Surfer is way to versatile.

I dont like to refer to the respect page because we all know the character, but damn. What cant he do? He has shown signs of just about everything to me. I mean phasing and matter manipulation are just two other things we havent touched upon.

Really, if written properly, no top tier heros should even be in the same league.

Oh, agreed. If this were a comic book battle Surfer would be nigh unstoppable. His treatment of Hulk, vs Thor's battle royales against Hulk, definitely give the word 'cosmic' that extra bit of 'umph'!

Surfer solos!

Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer can't BFR BA.
Surfer is a very slow dude in battle. Please read some SS comics.
Supes is too fast for anything to work on him here (Supes at his top speed). He koes SS while BA deals with Thor.
Then joins BA to ko Thor.
Surfer can BFR BA.
Surfer is slow because he is written that way to make a compelling storyline. It wouldn't be fun if he was just speedblitzing people at random and reducing them to sub-atomic particles.
Superman will never KO Silver Surfer. Not through physical means any way.

BFR for the win, even though he doesn't need to.

Surfer solos.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
So this match takes place on a planet orbited by a red sun, and there's no speedblitz?

Are you trying to make a spite thread?

What?

Valor orbits Daxam? I know comic book physics are pretty weird sometimes, but I could have sworn that Daxam orbited Valor.

Pretty odd for a sun to orbit a planet. ermm.

The thing is blitzes are moves to fast for their opponent, so stopping them is like letting them get attacked which is limiting them.

But either way a blitz wont win this match.

i assume the daxam thing has been discarded?

Team two for the win

Originally posted by pr1983
i assume the daxam thing has been discarded?

Technically, no.

The threadstarter never rescinded the fact that this fight takes place in the presence of a red sun, more or less making the fight Black Adam vs. Thor and the Silver Surfer.

christ... if it isnt, ill have to close it as a spite thread...

Originally posted by pr1983
christ... if it isnt, ill have to close it as a spite thread...

I feel somewhat certain that Larceny wasn't aware of the fact that Daxam had a red giant for a sun. He meant no harm, I'd say.

Originally posted by Soljer
I feel somewhat certain that Larceny wasn't aware of the fact that Daxam had a red giant for a sun. He meant no harm, I'd say.

my thoughts exactly... i just need him to say it...

http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/97705/because_of_you/Ne-Yo%20-%20Because%20Of%20You

Originally posted by Martian_mind
http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/97705/because_of_you/Ne-Yo%20-%20Because%20Of%20You

that the remix or the original version?

Originally posted by pr1983
that the remix or the original version?

Original

here's the remix

http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/146011/because_of_you/Ne-Yo%20Feat%20Kanye%20West%20-%20Because%20Of%20U%20Remix

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Original

here's the remix

http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/146011/because_of_you/Ne-Yo%20Feat%20Kanye%20West%20-%20Because%20Of%20U%20Remix

i prefer the remix...

Pr, Martian, I've gotten multiple reports out of both of you. You can consider this your official warning - get back on topic.

Originally posted by pr1983
i prefer the remix...

Blasphemer!!

Oh,and we were both Soljerized.

Originally posted by Soljer
Pr, Martian, I've gotten multiple reports out of both of you. You can consider this your official warning - get back on topic.



Originally posted by Martian_mind
Blasphemer!!

Oh,and we were both Soljerized.

nah, i think the little bit at the start improves the song...

also, i think surfer and thor take this, unless supes can blitz norrin out of the match, which im not sure he can...

The surfer does fight starships moving at light speeds. SURFER IS MUCH FASTER THAN SUPES but since speed blitz is off their wont be any need for speed. The surfer could phase through superman(it wont kill him but it would hurt alot) or simply go all out and blast him to death, or encase him in a shell of unbreakable ethel energy and leave him to thor when(if) he breaks out. Their are so many ways for the surfer to win this fight by himself if he fights smartly that he does not need thor. Supes one shotting surfer is INSANE.

http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/129940/cher/Strong%20Enough%20-%20Cher

Tee hee.

silver surfer>black adam
superman=thor just about

silver surfer thor> superman

bump

spite in favor of team 2.

surfer solos.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
spite in favor of team 2.

surfer solos. Very doubtful.

Originally posted by Raoul




nah, i think the little bit at the start improves the song...

also, i think surfer and thor take this, unless supes can blitz norrin out of the match, which im not sure he can...

SS is a bad match up agaisnt BA IMO, not only does BA have the striking power,h2h skill and combat speed over Norin but his power is backed by magic. There isnt a single disadvantage to exploit unlike with Supes. Supes could take Thor after a hard earned fight, SS is the weak link here...his lack of h2h skill or combat speed are just a huge issue especially agaisnt a guy like BA.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
The surfer does fight starships moving at light speeds. SURFER IS MUCH FASTER THAN SUPES but since speed blitz is off their wont be any need for speed. The surfer could phase through superman(it wont kill him but it would hurt alot) or simply go all out and blast him to death, or encase him in a shell of unbreakable ethel energy and leave him to thor when(if) he breaks out. Their are so many ways for the surfer to win this fight by himself if he fights smartly that he does not need thor. Supes one shotting surfer is INSANE.

I don't know how many times this needs to be repeated but I'll say it again...TRAVEL SPEED DOES NOT EQUAL COMBAT SPEED. Even if SS has greater flight speed there has been nothing to suggest his level of h2h skill,combat speed or striking power are even comparable to Clark. Sure SS has crazy matter manip and energy versatility...hell he even has some of the best durability ive ever seen for a top tier but the point still remains that he has no awnser for Supes in close quarters.On that note, Supes has been shown to be highly resilent to the effects of K-nite to the point where it was almost negated. I find it funny how that argument is always brought up in every"Supes vs SS"thread even though the forum rules clearly stipulate "full capcity".

SS will need to fight from a considerable distance to be fully effective..the second the gap is closed its handily in clarks favor.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
SS is a bad match up agaisnt BA IMO, not only does BA have the striking power,h2h skill and combat speed over Norin but his power is backed by magic. There isnt a single disadvantage to exploit unlike with Supes. Supes could take Thor after a hard earned fight, SS is the weak link here...his lack of h2h skill or combat speed are just a huge issue especially agaisnt a guy like BA.


... What?

Current Surfer is just, power wise, too much for anyonei this match, minus maybe Thor, who seemed Bad ass before being ko-ed by Rulk.

Surfer have combat speed feats, ftl reflex, and most importantly, the possibility to wtfpwn Sups in two attacks max.

And don't forget: Thor can drain energy too.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I don't know how many times this needs to be repeated but I'll say it again...TRAVEL SPEED DOES NOT EQUAL COMBAT SPEED. WOW he reacts/thinks at that speed

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I don't know how many times this needs to be repeated but I'll say it again...TRAVEL SPEED DOES NOT EQUAL COMBAT SPEED. Even if SS has greater flight speed there has been nothing to suggest his level of h2h skill,combat speed or striking power are even comparable to Clark. Sure SS has crazy matter manip and energy versatility...hell he even has some of the best durability ive ever seen for a top tier but the point still remains that he has no awnser for Supes in close quarters.On that note, Supes has been shown to be highly resilent to the effects of K-nite to the point where it was almost negated. I find it funny how that argument is always brought up in every"Supes vs SS"thread even though the forum rules clearly stipulate "full capcity".

SS will need to fight from a considerable distance to be fully effective..the second the gap is closed its handily in clarks favor. Good job responding to a post made 8 months ago...

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Good job responding to a post made 8 months ago...

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
... What?

Current Surfer is just, power wise, too much for anyonei this match, minus maybe Thor, who seemed Bad ass before being ko-ed by Rulk.

Surfer have combat speed feats, ftl reflex, and most importantly, the possibility to wtfpwn Sups in two attacks max.

And don't forget: Thor can drain energy too.

Again, h2h skills.combat speed and striking power that are comparable. FTL reflexes dont mean much if its never applied in close quarters and to this date i dont see any feats to suggest SS is even as quick as CA h2h.

Originally posted by kgkg
WOW he reacts/thinks at that speed

Got any scans of him fighting FTL or reacting in close quarters?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Again, h2h skills.combat speed and striking power that are comparable. FTL reflexes dont mean much if its never applied in close quarters and to this date i dont see any feats to suggest SS is even as quick as CA h2h.

now prove that superman has faster then light reflexes and combat speed. Prove that he even have c level combat speed or reflexes.

Originally posted by carver9
now prove that superman has faster then light reflexes and combat speed. Prove that he even have c level combat speed or reflexes. Exactly. Glads top speed feats are faster than Superman's post crisis speed feats.

Originally posted by carver9
now prove that superman has faster then light reflexes and combat speed. Prove that he even have c level combat speed or reflexes.

Im not claiming Supes combat speed is FTL, but he at least fights in superspeed and has competent h2h skills along with incredible striking power. There are to no combat feats of SS displaying exception h2h skill and ive never seen him use his"FTl"speed and reflexes in combat. In fact I havnt ever seen him use superspeed in any comabt sittuation.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Exactly. Glads top speed feats are faster than Superman's post crisis speed feats.

Do u mean travelling speeds or combat speed...2 different things frend

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Im not claiming Supes combat speed is FTL, but he at least fights in superspeed and has competent h2h skills along with incredible striking power. There are to no combat feats of SS displaying exception h2h skill and ive never seen him use his"FTl"speed and reflexes in combat. In fact I havnt ever seen him use superspeed in any comabt sittuation. They were posted in another thread and you've seen scans of this. Team 2 wins because Surfer can take supes out very,very quickly imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They were posted in another thread and you've seen scans of this. Team 2 wins because Surfer can take supes out very,very quickly imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They were posted in another thread and you've seen scans of this. Team 2 wins because Surfer can take supes out very,very quickly imo.

Iv'e seen the scans and....well it still doesnt validate his supposed combat ability. Supes has displayed actual MA skill, preasure point strikes, holds,skillful application of punches/knees/kicks and all at"superspeed". He even remarks on his"ancient krpytonian warrior"skills and has displayed actual speedblitz in regards to his MA h2h skill..Norin isnt a good fighter.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Iv'e seen the scans and....well it still doesnt validate his supposed combat ability. Supes has displayed actual MA skill, preasure point strikes, holds,skillful application of punches/knees/kicks and all at"superspeed". He even remarks on his"ancient krpytonian warrior"skills and has displayed actual speedblitz in regards to his MA h2h skill..Norin isnt a good fighter. cosmic glaze trumps all that shit.

bump

Well, we know that Kyle won't do anything.

Also, team 2 in a breeze.