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Is this a three way tie?

Wurd.

Unless TOAA wants to take away Thanos' power, and then it's a two-way tie.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Wurd.

Unless TOAA wants to take away Thanos' power, and then it's a two-way tie. Between TOAA and The Presence. Since they are both the Supreme beings of thier respective Realities. Thanos can't be supreme and TOAA be supreme now can he?

TOAA is so great and so awesome that he made Thanos the Supreme Being because he was all like, "**** it. Someone else do the work. Here's the power to do it." Within the Marvel Universe, Thanos with the HOTU was Supreme.

TOAA could've simply took it away by erasing it, or somesuch thing, because he exists as an out-of-universe source, which is why you see LT depicted, you see Eternity depicted, you see Thanos with HOTU depicted, but you never see a representation of TOAA unless it's the writer being shown.

Originally posted by Enyalus
TOAA is so great and so awesome that he made Thanos the Supreme Being because he was all like, "**** it. Someone else do the work. Here's the power to do it." Within the Marvel Universe, Thanos with the HOTU was Supreme.

TOAA could've simply took it away by erasing it, or somesuch thing, because he exists as an out-of-universe source, which is why you see LT depicted, you see Eternity depicted, you see Thanos with HOTU depicted, but you never see a representation of TOAA unless it's the writer being shown.
And yet He was still over Thanos and thus supreme ruler of the marvel realities.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And yet He was still over Thanos and thus supreme ruler of the marvel realities.

Within the Marvel Universe, no he was not. Everything that the TOAA was in the context of in-universe, Thanos became.

I suppose you could compare Thanos with the HOTI with Michael. Both wielding the power of the Supreme Being - yet while Michael serves that Supreme Being, Thanos literally becomes It.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Within the Marvel Universe, no he was not. Everything that the TOAA was in the context of in-universe, Thanos became.

I suppose you could compare Thanos with the HOTI with Michael. Both wielding the power of the Supreme Being - yet while Michael serves that Supreme Being, Thanos literally becomes It.
No he never became the supreme being. If he did, he would have stayed that way. The supreme used him. So he was never supreme. How can you be supreme and be someone else's pawn? U can't.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No he never became the supreme being. If he did, he would have stayed that way. The supreme used him. So he was never supreme. How can you be supreme and be someone else's pawn? U can't.

He didn't "use him", he tricked him, by giving him the ultimate power.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
He didn't "use him", he tricked him, by giving him the ultimate power. He was manipulated by the master manipulator. manipulated. MANIPULATED.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No he never became the supreme being. If he did, he would have stayed that way. The supreme used him. So he was never supreme. How can you be supreme and be someone else's pawn? U can't.

God damn. Marvel states it. Several times. Take up your complaints with them. Thanos with the HOTI became the Supreme Being in the Marvel Universe. The end.






(Pun intended)

Originally posted by Enyalus
Wurd.

Unless TOAA wants to take away Thanos' power, and then it's a two-way tie.

i gotta agree.but seeing as how toaa is the writer/artist,& the writer/artist>a character,i might have to lean towards toaa.thats not being biased towards marvel,its just real people>made up character.thanos is a non factor here

Originally posted by fangirl101
He was manipulated by the master manipulator. manipulated. MANIPULATED.

Prior to him having gained the HOTI....

Originally posted by Enyalus
God damn. Marvel states it. Several times. Take up your complaints with them. Thanos with the HOTI became the Supreme Being in the Marvel Universe. The end.






(Pun intended)
Marvel states it? No they don't. Characters state that he has supreme power. marvel says he basicallly becomes God. And I haven't seen that in any bios. It's all up to fanatical interpretation. In the book, it never states that he is now the one above all. If he had, then The LT would have never challenged him. He would have served him.

Clever cookie.

By 'Marvel,' I meant their characters. But, in a technical sense, you would be right.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Marvel states it? No they don't.
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Here's Thanos' 2008 bio: (at the bottom)


Excerpt from Thanos' own Bio:

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos

" ... Known as the Heart of the Universe,
from which all energy physical and metaphysical emanates,
and thereby gained infinite power ...

... Thanos decided that the true sign of his ultimate power,
would be to destroy the universe
and become the One true Supreme Being ... "

..........................................................................


=========== SUPREME BEING =============

Originally posted by fangirl101

Characters state that he has supreme power.
Right, what would Eternity know?

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9954/th17wg4.th.jpg

Thanos says:

"Eternity, you must sense that Everything the Almighty was I now am,

did you ever dare demand anything from Him"


Eternity responds,

"No, but" .... (Eternity is actually acknowledging that Thanos speaks the truth)

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http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/500/th18br2.th.jpg

"And I, like He was, am now the Author of All That Will Be ...

my Will is Supreme"


noneyes
Originally posted by fangirl101

marvel says he basicallly becomes God.
That was Jim Starlin, who also said in another interview that the IG makes one GOD,

NOT LIKE God ... but just GOD!!!! ... in plain english.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7315/igmakegod1bz0.th.jpg

"The Infinity Gauntlet,
a story that dealt with the idea of a nihilist (Thanos) becoming God"

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Jim Starlin himself adds:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9950/igmakegod2zt8.th.jpg

"I've done the good side of God and the bad side of God,
I've gone as far as I can with the Infinity Gauntlet"

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On Panel verification:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1825/igmakesyougod7zf.th.jpg

"Thanos ... In-effect became God"

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Is the IG above the LT? No ... is the LT above THOTI? No

Enough with you trying to downplay Jim's statements by nitpicking.
Originally posted by fangirl101

And I haven't seen that in any bios. It's all up to fanatical interpretation.
This is a straight up lie.
Originally posted by fangirl101

In the book, it never states that he is now the one above all.
If he had, then The LT would have never challenged him.
He would have served him.
Goodness, Thanos wasn't TOAA, Thanos became TOAA withIN the Omniverse,
TOAA created THOTI/Thanos/LT/Eternity/even the freakin the story ... uhm, everything!

Everything withIN the Marvel Universe is a drawing on a piece of paper,
the Marvel Universe itself is a drawing on a piece of paper.

Don't you get it?

Thanos states. character's state. But it's never in the narrator's panels. It's never in the bio as a statement of fact. only fact from the character's view. what don't you get? he wasn't supreme.

Originally posted by fangirl101
what don't you get? he wasn't supreme.

Prove it. Without opinion, using on panel evidence.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Prove it. Without opinion, using on panel evidence.
I don't have to. The panels themselves never said he was god. never said he was the one above all. The Lt never conceded this. As a matter of fact, the lt fought against him. the Lt knows his boss, if thanos were indeed the new boss, the Lt would have fallen in line.

Stalemate TOAA = The Presence > THOTU.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Thanos states. character's state.
So Eternity conceding that Thanos became "the Almighty" is meaningless?

Thanos' consciousness merged with everything in the Omniverse, would also be ignorant.

durlaugh
Originally posted by fangirl101

But it's never in the narrator's panels.
And round and round we go.
Originally posted by fangirl101

It's never in the bio as a statement of fact.
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos

" ... Known as the Heart of the Universe,
from which all energy physical and metaphysical emanates,
and thereby gained infinite power ...

... Thanos decided that the true sign of his ultimate power,
would be to destroy the universe
and become the One true Supreme Being ... "

.................................................................................

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2069/akbioyu7.th.jpg

"Thanos eradicated the Order, they ... Pronounced him GOD" ...

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Nice try with the succession of fallacies being posted.

Originally posted by fangirl101

only fact from the character's view. what don't you get? he wasn't supreme.
Oh right, right, I forgot, the characters are alive and they speak for themselves.

I guess this doesn't matter either:

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(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2006 - LT - bio)
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5738/lt1df4.th.jpg

"The Living Tribunal's ONLY superior is TOAA"

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Logic dictates that ONLY TOAA or a power = to or superior could defeat the LT:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1825/teb9.th.jpg

LT gets stomped!

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We know Thanos has "someone's" power,
there's no denying that, I'm sure you'll agree.

And if according to Marvel,
the ONLY power above the Living Tribunal's is TOAA's,
who's power do you believe Thanos has?

Originally posted by Mr Master
So Eternity conceding that Thanos became "the Almighty" is meaningless?

Thanos' consciousness merged with everything in the Omniverse, would also be ignorant.

durlaugh

And round and round we go.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos

" ... Known as the Heart of the Universe,
from which all energy physical and metaphysical emanates,
and thereby gained infinite power ...

... Thanos decided that the true sign of his ultimate power,
would be to destroy the universe
and become the One true Supreme Being ... "

.................................................................................

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2069/akbioyu7.th.jpg

"Thanos eradicated the Order, they ... Pronounced him GOD" ...

.................................................................................


Nice try with the succession of fallacies being posted.
he destroyed the UNIverse. The ORDER pronounced Him GOD. He had infinite power. As he did with the IG blah blah. The LT never conceded this fact. He resisted him. The LT could NEVER resist TOAA. EVER. It's not stated on Panel That it's God's power. Not when It is an artifact or a source of power. Hell, The Source and Mike both are that. And niether are god. Tho mike's power did make Elaine God in vertigo.

Originally posted by fangirl101

As a matter of fact, the lt fought against him.

the Lt knows his boss
Yea, the LT also knows his boss is more powerful than he,
if the LT wouldn't have known Thanos had a power superior to his own,
(and the ONLY power superior to the LT's is TOAA)
why did the LT bring the ENTIRE prime Marvel Universe to back him up:

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The Living Tribunal KNEW Thanos had the "Supreme Power" ...

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LT tried to go up against Thanos,
because LT knew the power was in the wrong hands, (Thanos')

LT brought with him practically the entire Marvel Universe to Help Him:


=== The Set UP ===


http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5121/ltbf6.th.jpg



=== The Attack ===


(Heroes ... and Villains) lol! ... Everyone!


http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/829876_LT.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7682/lt4uy0.th.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3394/lt5xu5.th.jpg



LT KNEW he was going up against the power that was SUPERIOR to his own.



We KNOW what that ONLY power that's SUPERIOR to the LT is:


(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook - LT bio 2006)
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5738/lt1df4.th.jpg

"The Living Tribunal's ONLY Superior is TOAA"

......................................................................................

yawn

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea, the LT also knows his boss is more powerful than he,
if the LT wouldn't have known Thanos had a power superior to his own,
(and the ONLY power superior to the LT's is TOAA)
why did the LT bring the ENTIRE prime Marvel Universe to back him up:

......................................................................................


The Living Tribunal KNEW Thanos had the "Supreme Power" ...

......................................................................................


LT tried to go up against Thanos,
because LT knew the power was in the wrong hands, (Thanos')

LT brought with him practically the entire Marvel Universe to Help Him:


=== The Set UP ===


http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5121/ltbf6.th.jpg



=== The Attack ===


(Heroes ... and Villains) lol! ... Everyone!


http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9886/lt3xv1.th.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7682/lt4uy0.th.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3394/lt5xu5.th.jpg



LT KNEW he was going up against the power that was SUPERIOR to his own.



We KNOW what that ONLY power that's SUPERIOR to the LT is:


(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook - LT bio 2006)
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5738/lt1df4.th.jpg

"The Living Tribunal's ONLY Superior is TOAA"

......................................................................................

yawn
The LT's only superior is the TOAA. But says nothing about other power sources. The only being that is superior to the LT is the TOAA. And of course if the LT were omnicient, then he would know that that Thanos was the new TOAA and act accordingly. Obviously he didn't.

Originally posted by fangirl101

The LT's only superior is the TOAA.
But says nothing about other power sources.
The only being that is superior to the LT is the TOAA.
This is why debating with you is completely pointless.

You try and bring up a point, the point is addressed, and countered with proof,
you come back with the spin.

Nvr gonna change.
Originally posted by fangirl101

And of course if the LT were omnicient,
then he would know that that Thanos was the new TOAA
and act accordingly.
Obviously he didn't.
Already addressed, but since you post aimlessly you're still spinning.

Thanos wasn't TOAA,
Thanos became the Almighty, Supreme being withIN the Omniverse.

TOAA with a thought creates Supreme beings with the stroke of a pencil.

TOAA > the Almighty Supreme being of the Marvel Universe!

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/7757/ltorderswl0iy.th.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is why debating with you is completely pointless.

You try and bring up a point, the point is addressed, and countered with proof,
you come back with the spin.

Nvr gonna change.

Already addressed, but since you post aimlessly you're still spinning.

Thanos wasn't TOAA,
Thanos became the Almighty, Supreme being withIN the Omniverse.

TOAA with a thought creates Supreme beings with the stroke of a pencil.

TOAA > GOD!

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/7757/ltorderswl0iy.th.jpg
Showing Warlock does nothing. Because Worlock wasn't more powerful than THE LT. The LT has one boss. One and One only. Anyone else who is more powerful than the LT still isn't his boss. No matter which way you spin it.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Showing Warlock does nothing.
Because Worlock wasn't more powerful than THE LT.
Nah, Warlock was just the Supreme being of the Marvel Universe (below the LT) with the IG.

http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/4705/igmakesyougod23un.th.jpg

"Warlock ... was mentally unfit to be God"



Warlock was just omnipotent, and Warlock was just omniscient:

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Infinity_Gauntlet_%28item%29

Powers: "Absolute Omnipotence when the Gems are used altogether"


.. but sincerely, what would he know ... crazy
Originally posted by fangirl101

The LT has one boss. One and One only.
Anyone else who is more powerful than the LT still isn't his boss.

No matter which way you spin it.
The only one spinning shit here is you dogs,
and hilariously you're spinning yourself into a vortex of conflicting ignorance.

I have never said Thanos became TOAA (writers/artists)
I have always conveyed exactly what Marvel comics depicted on panel,
and confirmed in their Handbooks,
and corroborated in their website,
and was assured by Jim Starlin himself.

Thanos/THOTI became the Almighty Supreme being of the Marvel Universe,
Thanos became the embodiment of the entire Marvel Universe,
so Thanos and the Omniverse were one and the same.

All that, is nothing but artwork on a piece of paper to TOAA.

artist

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah, Warlock was just the Supreme being of the Marvel Universe (below the LT) with the IG.
Warlock was just omnipotent, and Warlock was just omniscient,
but sincerely, what would he know.

the only one spinning shit here is you dogs,
and hilariously you're spinning yourself into a vortex of conflicting ignorance.

I have never said Thanos became TOAA (writers/artists)
I have always conveyed exactly what Marvel comics depicted on panel,
and confirmed in their Handbooks,
and corroborated in their website,
and assured by Jim Starlin himself.

Thanos/THOTI became the Almighty Supreme being of the Marvel Universe,
Thanos became the embodiment of the entire Marvel Universe,
so Thanos and the Omniverse were one and the same.

All that, is nothing but artwork on a piece of paper to TOAA.

artist
What ever he became, he never became the supreme ruling being over marvel. That is all.

Originally posted by fangirl101

What ever he became,

he never became the supreme ruling being over marvel.

That is all.
Hmm ... really? ... The Living Tribunal would disagree.

When are you gonna start reading Marvel comics to debate in Marvel discussions?


The Supreme ruling being of the Marvel Universe is Eternity/Infinity:

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/829895_LT1.jpg

"Eternity ... before the IG ... you were the Lord of all that is"

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/829896_LT2.jpg

"Now their existence challenges that lofty state"

..............................................................................


Eternity/Infinity really is where everything in Marvel stems from:

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/721892_etpf1.jpg

"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is."

..............................................................................


Thanos/IG not only stomped Eternity in one move:

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/829901_E1.jpg

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/829902_E2.jpg


Thanos also effortlessly replaced "the Lord of all that is" ...

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/829903_E3.jpg

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/829904_E4.jpg

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/829905_E5.jpg

So LT says Eternity is the Supreme ruler but LT servers TOAA who is above both of them?? LT talking about the IG coming after Eternity and then taking his spot.... Even though all of them come from the Big Bang. Where is the scan of Adam shooting Eternity at with the IG and him saying if it was his real form he would have not been effected?

Originally posted by kevdude

So LT says Eternity is the Supreme ruler but LT servers TOAA who is above both of them??
LT is a concept that serves the purpose of judgement, LT isn't interested in ruling anything.

TOAA draws them both in stories which later become comics to sell.
Originally posted by kevdude

LT talking about the IG coming after Eternity and then taking his spot....
Even though all of them come from the Big Bang.
Actually the IG came from the Infinity being.

The Infinity being's power created the Big Bang and the Infinity Gems.
Originally posted by kevdude

Where is the scan of Adam shooting Eternity at with the IG
and him saying if it was his real form he would have not been effected?
You mean right before he was obliterated by Warlock?

Or do you mean after Thanos replaced his totality?

If you knew the implications of scene,
you'd know Eternity was trying to trick Warlock into giving up the IG,
as if Warlock didn't know he got stomped by Thanos/IG prior to that, lol.

Bait thread.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Bait thread. Yep.