Hulk vs Superman vs Thor
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carver9
Who has the best combat showings between these 3? No external amps. And let's limit this to 1990 on up. One on one fights or it can be Superman, Thor, or Hulk vs teams. Can't be a single hit showing. An ongoing fight.
MrMind
wow interesting match up
this has never been done before
qwertyuiop1998
1) The "combat showings" means the feats that don't rely on scaling upon other characters(like lifting 500 tons in a fight), or their performances against other character, or both?
2) And "let's limit this to 1990 on up" you mean we need to use showings from 90s and onward? And if so, does it include 1990 showings ?
carver9
Yep, 1990 is included and go up from there.
carver9
I'll go first and make it simple. A weakened Hulk wrecks Gladiator...
https://i.ibb.co/vxZPQXjL/main-qimg-4f4e477f4a843872e914146b1a5c88f2-pjlq.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/XfX7hqkK/main-qimg-51eadda7c85aeca501b22023dd31588c-lq.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/hbRDXJz/main-qimg-38ef16d32b8bb2975e9f7b2f33de5cef-lq.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/M5BxN0SY/main-qimg-6c63a79e9bf7b4f43ad4a9847ec7884c-lq.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/xKL419HX/main-qimg-8cd36b482761c668e47744e2489975ac-lq.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/WNMZJBmN/main-qimg-5d5681f85ac65614da06c98e76b5a088-pjlq.jpg
carver9
Hulk defeats Loeb Rulk...
https://i.ibb.co/bMcbk3XJ/green-scar-returns-and-humiliates-red-hulk-v0-6lupm5ub1gwe1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/qL877nYL/green-scar-returns-and-humiliates-red-hulk-v0-6qqv58ub1gwe1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/dsQ4ydZN/green-scar-returns-and-humiliates-red-hulk-v0-oex3uhtb1gwe1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/mCCpLFYH/green-scar-returns-and-humiliates-red-hulk-v0-9ne8s8ub1gwe1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Cs7rhRSK/green-scar-returns-and-humiliates-red-hulk-v0-60dm80ub1gwe1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/rKq8RGRm/green-scar-returns-and-humiliates-red-hulk-v0-zpu5i8ub1gwe1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Z6PKW20J/green-scar-returns-and-humiliates-red-hulk-v0-hyiqenvb1gwe1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/wNksnfdg/green-scar-returns-and-humiliates-red-hulk-v0-8g9x8cub1gwe1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/KjV72ftM/green-scar-returns-and-humiliates-red-hulk-v0-asx7jeub1gwe1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/SYvcWqM/green-scar-returns-and-humiliates-red-hulk-v0-pbuirgub1gwe1.jpg
DarkSaint85
How about the time the In-Betweener had to exert half his power to trap Hulk?
abhilegend
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How about the time the In-Betweener had to exert half his power to trap Hulk?
Beastly feat for my boy.
Thinkerer
Thor cracks the armor of Exitar
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pV20gwxO7dg/VnqBgutQ5VI/AAAAAAAAaZI/D5gAVyfRvgQ/s1600-Ic42/RCO008.jpg
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How about the time the In-Betweener had to exert half his power to trap Hulk?
Thats not a fight.
carver9
Originally posted by Thinkerer
Thor cracks the armor of Exitar
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pV20gwxO7dg/VnqBgutQ5VI/AAAAAAAAaZI/D5gAVyfRvgQ/s1600-Ic42/RCO008.jpg
Beautiful ahowing for Thor but I wouldn't consider this a combat showing.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Thats not a fight.
Also, it was an alt. Reality Hulk
carver9
No it wasn't. Got any fights that compares to Hulk?
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
No it wasn't. Got any fights that compares to Hulk?
Prove it wasn't an alt reality Hulk. I am waiting in the relevant threads.
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Prove it wasn't an alt reality Hulk. I am waiting in the relevant threads.
Its simple. Betweener remember everything. All of it which means it happened and the only thing that happened in the end is the merger of the In Berweener back to what they were before. Nothing else. Nothing was rewritten at the end of the comic. So IB still remembering the events means that it happened, and the cube not being used to rewrite anything at the end means that universe is still in play. Now let's get back on topic, please.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Its simple. Betweener remember everything. All of it which means it happened and the only thing that happened in the end is the merger of the In Berweener back to what they were before. Nothing else. Nothing was rewritten at the end of the comic. So IB still remembering the events means that it happened, and the cube not being used to rewrite anything at the end means that universe is still in play. Now let's get back on topic, please.
In Betweener remembering everything doesn't mean Hulk wasn't alternate

there were so many things different, chief of them being the In-Betweener being head of shield lmao.
Are you telling me that he was an actual SHIELD director? One or two people remembering what happened doesn't mean reality wasn't rewritten lol, the comic literally says it was rewritten.
We can go back to the topic in this thread, you just need to actually reply in the correct one lol. Us having this convo here is a direct result of you trying to run away.
carver9
You doing lol doesn't take away from the fact that people remembering what happened means the event isnt deleted. Also, nothing being rewritten at the end also proves what I said. All they did was merge the In Betweeners. Alt realities changes are usually deleted from people memories. People remembering the event in Canon material means it happened. Simple process tbh.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
You doing lol doesn't take away from the fact that people remembering what happened means the event isnt deleted. Also, nothing being rewritten at the end also proves what I said. All they did was merge the In Betweeners. Alt realities changes are usually deleted from people memories. People remembering the event in Canon material means it happened. Simple process tbh.
It literally states in the comic that reality was altered?
https://i.postimg.cc/76JfLW4X/RCO002-1663993547.jpg
Longshot used the CC to merge the IB back together, and the IB used HIS power to reverse things back to normal:
https://i.postimg.cc/289RH8hb/Normal.png
It even has its own number, for goodness' sake:
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Earth-14112
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It literally states in the comic that reality was altered?
https://i.postimg.cc/76JfLW4X/RCO002-1663993547.jpg
Longshot used the CC to merge the IB back together, and the IB used HIS power to reverse things back to normal:
https://i.postimg.cc/289RH8hb/Normal.png
It even has its own number, for goodness' sake:
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Earth-14112
I never said it was altered "in some way" during the beginning. Yes, he used the power to merge them back together, and that was it. Where did IN Betweener use his thing to undo the comic cube effects? Thats a pretty big freaking ft if he did that. Show me.
Again, the events being remembered makes it Canon. Whyre you not grasping this?
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
I never said it was altered "in some way" during the beginning. Yes, he used the power to merge them back together, and that was it. Where did IN Betweener use his thing to undo the comic cube effects? Thats a pretty big freaking ft if he did that. Show me.
Again, the events being remembered makes it Canon. Whyre you not grasping this?
No, it doesn't lol.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
I never said it was altered "in some way" during the beginning.
Yup, to created Earth 14112, a different alternate reality to Earth 616. Thus, the Hulk they meet is from Earth 14112, not 616 Hulk. Glad we agree.
He does it in this sequence: https://i.postimg.cc/9w5NtNMv/RCO017-1663993547.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Hc7hMCpw/RCO018-1663993547.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Y4PPjSw2/RCO019-1663993547.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/rdsb8r3Y/RCO020-1663993547.jpg
It isn't an undoing per se - he selects the doorway back to Earth 616, so Longshot can walk back to the 616 reality, a reality where IB is not head of SHIELD (and never was, Sonja married Bill and Longshot helped them buy their house etc etc:
https://i.postimg.cc/xC1BGw8y/RCO010-1664345387.jpg
And a reality where Hulk was never the prisoner of the IB, as the IB never became head of SHIELD and tried capturing people.
Earth 14112 =/= Earth 616.
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it doesn't lol.
Just know that im looking for that post that you used against ODG, where Supes broke an alt Wonder Woman neck and him standing in the watch tower talking to Diana about the event. You used it as Canon material saying since Supes remembered, it happened. I will find it
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yup, to created Earth 14112, a different alternate reality to Earth 616. Thus, the Hulk they meet is from Earth 14112, not 616 Hulk. Glad we agree.
He does it in this sequence: https://i.postimg.cc/9w5NtNMv/RCO017-1663993547.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Hc7hMCpw/RCO018-1663993547.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Y4PPjSw2/RCO019-1663993547.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/rdsb8r3Y/RCO020-1663993547.jpg
It isn't an undoing per se - he selects the doorway back to Earth 616, so Longshot can walk back to the 616 reality, a reality where IB is not head of SHIELD (and never was, Sonja married Bill and Longshot helped them buy their house etc etc:
https://i.postimg.cc/xC1BGw8y/RCO010-1664345387.jpg
And a reality where Hulk was never the prisoner of the IB, as the IB never became head of SHIELD and tried capturing people.
Earth 14112 =/= Earth 616.
Thats the thing, everything that happened did happened because it was never deleted. People still remember it all. Also, IB doesn't have the ppwer to overwrite a cosmic cube. He's powerful but not that powerful.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Thats the thing, everything that happened did happened because it was never deleted. People still remember it all. Also, IB doesn't have the ppwer to overwrite a cosmic cube. He's powerful but not that powerful.
I'm not saying it was deleted, not am I saying the IB overwrote it in my last post?
If you look at the scans, you clearly see him selecting the doorway back to 616 for Longshot. Read my post, please, before replying. I explicitly said It isn't an undoing per se - he selects the doorway back to Earth 616, so Longshot can walk back to the 616 reality,
Earth 14112 still exists. Hulk still exists there
But he's Hulk -14112, not Hulk 616.
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm not saying it was deleted, not am I saying the IB overwrote it in my last post?
If you look at the scans, you clearly see him selecting the doorway back to 616 for Longshot. Read my post, please, before replying. I explicitly said It isn't an undoing per se - he selects the doorway back to Earth 616, so Longshot can walk back to the 616 reality,
Earth 14112 still exists. Hulk still exists there
But he's Hulk -14112, not Hulk 616.
Nothing in those scans mention him creating different universes using the doors. Nothing was reversed. Everything remained as is. In Betweener remember every single event that happened including Hulk exhausting his energy. Bye Saint. Im done discussing this Canon event to you. Let me look for this ABHI post. I like proving his hypocritical ways.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Nothing in those scans mention him creating different universes using the doors. Nothing was reversed. Everything remained as is. In Betweener remember every single event that happened including Hulk exhausting his energy. Bye Saint. Im done discussing this Canon event to you. Let me look for this ABHI post. I like proving his hypocritical ways.
I...never said he created universes??? Wtf man, your attempt at creating weird strawmen arguments is laughable.
IB is selecting the '616 door' for Longshot to walk through, to walk back to the 616 reality. He's not creating the 616 reality lmao. Literally shown here:
https://i.postimg.cc/3wFHFjB7/RCO020-1663993547.jpg
So you're saying there is no Earth 14112? That Jennifer's mom simultaneously married Bill and never did, and the IB was once a director of SHIELD in the 616 universe, and Deadpool uses magic etc?
IB remembers using half his power to contain *A* Hulk, I'm not disputing this. On earth 14112.
It's not 616 Hulk though.
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I...never said he created universes??? Wtf man, your attempt at creating weird strawmen arguments is laughable.
IB is selecting the '616 door' for Longshot to walk through, to walk back to the 616 reality. He's not creating the 616 reality lmao. Literally shown here:
https://i.postimg.cc/3wFHFjB7/RCO020-1663993547.jpg
So you're saying there is no Earth 14112? That Jennifer's mom simultaneously married Bill and never did, and the IB was once a director of SHIELD in the 616 universe, and Deadpool uses magic etc?
IB remembers using half his power to contain *A* Hulk, I'm not disputing this. On earth 14112.
It's not 616 Hulk though.
Where does it say he is selecting the 616 universe here instead of sending him home? Nothing states that. All im saying is, if events that happened is remembered in Canon material, its usually Canon. Kinda like the JLA vs Avengers comic. Its been reference in multiple Canon material. Its Canon to DC but not Marvel. Simple.
DarkSaint85
I mean, the timeline is simple.
1. Longshot is in 616.
2. He uses the CC, splits the IB in half, and creates Earth 14112
3. Wacky hijinks
4. Longshot uses the CC to recombine the IB
5. IB helps Longshot home, from Earth 14112 to Earth 616.
6. Longshot is back in 616.
Earth 14112 still exists out there somewhere, sure. With a Hulk that is capable of matching half of IB's power. But it's not 616 Hulk, even if IB and Longshot remember their adventures
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Where does it say he is selecting the 616 universe here instead of sending him home? Nothing states that. All im saying is, if events that happened is remembered in Canon material, its usually Canon. Kinda like the JLA vs Avengers comic. Its been reference in multiple Canon material. Its Canon to DC but not Marvel. Simple.
So you are saying that the IB is doing all that stuff to send Longshot home? Home from where?
Yes, its 'canon' to IB. He remembers it.
But the Hulk who matched half his power, isn't 616 Hulk. It's 14112 Hulk.
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Just know that im looking for that post that you used against ODG, where Supes broke an alt Wonder Woman neck and him standing in the watch tower talking to Diana about the event. You used it as Canon material saying since Supes remembered, it happened. I will find it
DC and Marvel apply different rules for alternate realities 🤷🤷
Thinkerer
Well this thread got off track quick.
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
DC and Marvel apply different rules for alternate realities 🤷🤷
Alternate realities are just that. Stay consistent and stop being a hypocrite. Thanks.
carver9
Onslaught was powerful enough that the entire world felt like he was the epitome of villain destruction. Heck, be pinched a hole in someone (Juggernaut) that has some of the best durability showings out of almost any Herald and Hulk punched him to dust...
https://i.ibb.co/MyLmZYD7/tumblr-orn1ipkdje1rvm5qqo1-1280.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/8nhv4mtP/tumblr-orn1ipkdje1rvm5qqo2-1280.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/rRxDKB9B/tumblr-orn1ipkdje1rvm5qqo3-1280.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/dskx9CWZ/tumblr-orn1ipkdje1rvm5qqo4-1280.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/rGV7JzKk/tumblr-orn1ipkdje1rvm5qqo5-1280.jpg
carver9
Hulk send Sentry to the hospital...
https://i.ibb.co/LDH8dKY6/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-17.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/dwZp6Hmt/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/6cx3fCP4/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-2.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/jkfS6qzR/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-3.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/MDpyYWLB/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-4.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/tPz51wnC/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-5.jpg
carver9
https://i.ibb.co/zHXG04gp/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-6.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/7t97mj1F/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-7.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/BMxYBkc/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-8.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/p6YRKBPH/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-9.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/ZRJXwSRN/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-10.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/VYf2b2YW/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-11.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/1frVFgDr/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-12.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Qv1RhF6k/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-13.jpg
carver9
https://i.ibb.co/spbpmqHX/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-14.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/KcBrtqp3/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-15.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Tq7rTcD4/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-16.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/5hKyNyzz/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-17-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/SDJvnDJH/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-18.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/B5njCVnd/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-19.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/99HZbGnw/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-20.jpg
carver9
Hulk gives Odin Force Thor a concussion in a single hit...
https://i.ibb.co/5gqdfSGs/the-devil-immortal-hulk-fractured-thors-skull-and-knocked-v0-fdngc11x80td1.jpg
carver9
Hulk vs Jane Thor, Hercules, Rogue, and Grandmaster daughter and stomping them...
https://i.ibb.co/cXX91HtW/hulk-overpowers-hercules-jane-foster-thor-by-flexing-full-v0-aklkzkqpr9ye1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/5xCw8nkw/hulk-overpowers-hercules-jane-foster-thor-by-flexing-full-v0-7o1znkqpr9ye1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Z1B5WpkB/hulk-overpowers-hercules-jane-foster-thor-by-flexing-full-v0-msvw2lqpr9ye1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/CkkkHst/hulk-overpowers-hercules-jane-foster-thor-by-flexing-full-v0-yov0gmqpr9ye1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/FqzK9sfK/hulk-overpowers-hercules-jane-foster-thor-by-flexing-full-v0-ssiw3lqpr9ye1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/cSC33wwS/hulk-overpowers-hercules-jane-foster-thor-by-flexing-full-v0-ij6nwhrpr9ye1.jpg
carver9
Hulk vs Odin Force Thor...
https://i.ibb.co/DDT0sjhW/Screenshot-20250628-182226-Samsung-Internet.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/LdNmscgX/Screenshot-20250628-182237-Samsung-Internet.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/PybgQVZ/Screenshot-20250628-182248-Samsung-Internet.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/RTGg82PF/Screenshot-20250628-182318-Samsung-Internet.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Pv9p5Npb/Screenshot-20250628-182347-Samsung-Internet.jpg
carver9
https://i.ibb.co/WWwd5y45/Screenshot-20250628-182358-Samsung-Internet.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/yngMb4h1/Screenshot-20250628-182408-Samsung-Internet.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/zWDnfMcC/Screenshot-20250628-182423-Samsung-Internet.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/1YZft0Wj/Screenshot-20250628-182434-Samsung-Internet.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/FqsGR0Dh/Screenshot-20250628-182445-Samsung-Internet.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/XfscRZYM/Screenshot-20250628-182457-Samsung-Internet.jpg
Diesldude
Superman one punch ko of Barbados?
Of his multiverse destroying punch that ko of WF?
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Thinkerer
Well this thread got off track quick.
Well I tried bumping the correct threads, but Carv kept running away. He knows he had no rebuttal.
All he has are ABC feats, hence why he clings so hard to these combat feats. But replace Hulk with someone like Wolverine, and you rapidly see how silly these fights become.
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Alternate realities are just that. Stay consistent and stop being a hypocrite. Thanks.
How about you read the comics?
Galan007
Yeah, the second reality was altered(and even received its own diverging numerical designation), is the second those events essentially became "What If"/alternate-universe material. That's just how Marvel cosmology works.
IOW, there is fundamentally no difference between, say, Earth-14112 Hulk, and Earth-1610 Reed in the sense that they are both variants of their 616 counterparts... So feat-sharing obvs wouldn't be applicable.
Like, I wouldn't post 616 Reed's feats in my Maker RT, for example. Different characters entirely.
Infinaut616
But isn't it usually assumed that 616 character are above their variants anyway?
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Infinaut616
But isn't it usually assumed that 616 character are above their variants anyway?
In short, no.
In long, no, it's never that. They stand or fall on the feats that each version has.
Venom: The End is waaaaaaaaay above 616 Venom, for example.
Galan007
Using my Reed/Maker example: 616 Reed flat-out admitted that some of his alternates possessed intelligence of a similar, and in some cases greater, magnitude than himself:
https://ibb.co/p6nzzZjP
So the alternate version can be =/> the original... But you essentially never really know unless explicit confirmation is provided within the material. /shrug
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Galan007
Using my Reed/Maker example: 616 Reed flat-out admitted that some of his alternates possessed intelligence of a similar, and in some cases greater, magnitude than himself:
https://ibb.co/p6nzzZjP
So the alternate version can be =/> the original... But you essentially never really know unless explicit confirmation is provided within the material. /shrug

good post.
Now we need that scan of World Forger saying Prime Superman is the greatest in tvethe multiverse hmmmm
carver9
Originally posted by Diesldude
Superman one punch ko of Barbados?
Of his multiverse destroying punch that ko of WF?
Fights, please.
carver9
Maybe I can post one for trans tier Superman since he doesn't have many
https://i.ibb.co/qMV398wB/992d4-superman-vs-infected-supergirl-and-shazam-3.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/8DsMV9r3/99318-superman-vs-infected-supergirl-and-shazam-4-e1576841633806.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/N21qYt3G/e4d48-superman-vs-infected-supergirl-and-shazam-5-e1576841652233.jpg
Stoic
This kind of boils down to personal preference .i mean The Hulk fighting Warrior Madness Thor or a near psychologically impaired version of Thor went at it full steam in the arctic tundra somewhere.
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85

good post.
Now we need that scan of World Forger saying Prime Superman is the greatest in tvethe multiverse hmmmm
The writer said it takes place in Marvel continuity and that it is NOT a standalone book...
https://i.ibb.co/PzgB6mq6/Screenshot-20250629-172026-Chrome.jpg
Interview...
https://web.archive.org/web/20130725172237/http://geek-news.mtv.com/2013/07/23/longshot-saves-the-marvel-universe-interview/
Galan007
^ Taking place "right in the middle of current continuity" doesn't preclude the fact that reality was fully altered(and has its own numerical designation) within the story itself.
carver9
Its not a standalone and is part of canon material. Being in Marvel continuity is just part of what he said. The series as he stated is not a standalone story. None of it. Its part of a story that goes with canon material. The entire series.
Delta1938
Carter getting destroyed in his own threads by DarkSaint(and in general).
DarkSaint--
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Delta1938
Lmao carter contradicting himself after not even 20 minutes.
2:51 PM my time.
Originally posted by carver9
So you're using statements as evidence of fts? Do you really wanna go there?
The thread at 3:07 PM my time.
Originally posted by carver9
Who has the best combat showings between these 3? No external amps. And let's limit this to 1990 on up. One on one fights or it can be Superman, Thor, or Hulk vs teams. Can't be a single hit showing. An ongoing fight.
Unless I'm giving carter too much credit in assuming he understood Orion fighting Superman alone while Wonder Woman needed a lot of help yet still struggled and he's not lying, just reading comprehension failure? Both are 1,000,000,000% possible.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Its not a standalone and is part of canon material. Being in Marvel continuity is just part of what he said. The series as he stated is not a standalone story. None of it. Its part of a story that goes with canon material. The entire series.
The Maker joined the 616 *right in the middle of continuity*. The Incursions, Secret Wars, all took place in canon comics.
The Maker =/= 616 Reed, and we don't share feats.
Galan007
carv's acting like a story set in the middle of continuity can't have side-quests.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Galan007
carv's acting like a story set in the middle of continuity can't have side-quests.
Imagine if 616 travels to another reality, and meets, say, Ultimate Hawkeye.
Apparently this means that since 616 Reed remembers it all, the Ultimate U is canon to 616 lol.
I seem to recall 616 Spidey 'remembering' the House of M.....hmmm......
carver9
Hey, the writer said the comic is Canon. Every series. Anyways, stop derailing my thread and get back on topic, please. Post those trans tier Superman fights.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Hey, the writer said the comic is Canon. Every series. Anyways, stop derailing my thread and get back on topic, please. Post those trans tier Superman fights.
He didn't say it was canon. He said it took place in a canon story.
If 616 Reed crosses dimensions and appears in the Marvel Zombie universe, that doesn't make the Marvel Zombie Hulk = 616 Hulk.
It's still canon to 616 Reed that he crossed dimensions, sure, but that doesn't make the two universes the same one.
carver9
Let's not stray off topic. You got some Supes fights you wanna post?
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Let's not stray off topic. You got some Supes fights you wanna post?
We can continue this in the correct thread, you're the one who kept running away, not me.
Shall I bump it so you can reply in the correct thread or can you find it yourself?
carver9
Since you've detailed this thread 3 pages, you don't have anything of relevance to add to it?
DarkSaint85
I've added plenty of relevance. And am interested how you think just because 616 goes to a different reality, it makes that reality canon to 616 lol.
After using writer interviews, which are not admissible, we can discuss it with a mod too
carver9
So you have nothing for THIS thread but expect me to talk to you about something relevant in another thread? 🤦🏿
Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
So you have nothing for THIS thread but expect me to talk to you about something relevant in another thread? 🤦🏿
It's because you runaway a lot. Years later I'm still waiting for the BZ you agreed to only to back down....TWICE. Yes, you accepted then backed down from it not once, but TWICE. I only have proof of once though, since you were dumb enough to start a thread about a BZ you're afraid to do.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
So you have nothing for THIS thread but expect me to talk to you about something relevant in another thread? 🤦🏿
Yes.
I kept bumping it for discussing in the correct thread, but you didn't reply.
Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
Hey, the writer said the comic is Canon. Every series. Anyways, stop derailing my thread and get back on topic, please. Post those trans tier Superman fights. He said the story takes place "right in the middle of current continuity", which no one is arguing... But alternate realities can still be created 'in the middle of current continuity', so I don't know what's not computing?
Sticking with Maker as an example: during Ultimate Invasion, Maker broke out of his prison on Earth-616, built the Immortus Engine, and proceeded to create/reshape an alternate Earth(designated 6160) in his own image. Understand? In the middle of the main/canon story, an alternate Earth was created that is not connected to 616 in any way. That kind of thing literally happens all the time in Marvel... Doesn't make said alternate realities any less alternate(even though the rest of the story might be set in 616.)
I really can't simplify this concept any further for ya, carv. g007-psyduck
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Maybe I can post one for trans tier Superman since he doesn't have many
https://i.ibb.co/qMV398wB/992d4-superman-vs-infected-supergirl-and-shazam-3.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/8DsMV9r3/99318-superman-vs-infected-supergirl-and-shazam-4-e1576841633806.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/N21qYt3G/e4d48-superman-vs-infected-supergirl-and-shazam-5-e1576841652233.jpg

Delta1938
Originally posted by abhilegend
Isn't this something he fought tooth and nail to argue isn't impressive?
Delta1938
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah
I remember him arguing Supergirl was AMPED by Kryptonite in that attempt to argue it for Wonder Woman.
carver9
Hey, I had to find something for the character.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Galan007
He said the story takes place "right in the middle of current continuity", which no one is arguing... But alternate realities can still be created 'in the middle of current continuity', so I don't know what's not computing?
Sticking with Maker as an example: during Ultimate Invasion, Maker broke out of his prison on Earth-616, built the Immortus Engine, and proceeded to create/reshape an alternate Earth(designated 6160) in his own image. Understand? In the middle of the main/canon story, an alternate Earth was created that is not connected to 616 in any way. That kind of thing literally happens all the time in Marvel... Doesn't make said alternate realities any less alternate(even though the rest of the story might be set in 616.)
I really can't simplify this concept any further for ya, carv. g007-psyduck
Good post, I wonder if it would get ignored.
Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
Hey, I had to find something for the character.
So you're contradicting yourself simultaneously proving your blatant ignorance and your dishonesty of trying to appear fair?

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Hey, I had to find something for the character. Originally posted by abhilegend

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