WWH free for all!!

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DarkSaint85
WWH has been scooped up by Reed Richards at the end of the WWH arc - literally in the middle of the Sentry fight.

He wakes up and finds himself on an adamantium planet. Facing him is Savage Hulk, also exiled here from an alt universe where the Illuminati had sent him here instead of sending him to Sakaar (but EVERYTHING ELSE WAS EXACTLY THE SAME).

There can only be one victor. BFR is out of the question. Working together is out of the question. Win is by death or KO.

Who is:

1. Stronger
2. More durable
3. Faster

?

Thinkerer
WWHulk wins on all accounts. If Savage Hulk can go Mindless, he might win on all accounts, but still lose eventually.

DarkSaint85
Forgot to add: post scans showing the top feats for your chosen combatant in each of the three categories to support your case. Savage has better feats than WWH, to me.

Statements are cheap without feats to back them up. Some might call it hyperbole.

Obviously, Savage is not weakened at all (so instead of going through the portal that brought him to Sakaar, he goes to this planet. And all his feats are allowed to date if Savage.

WWH is limited to the feats he performed in the WWH story arc, up to and including the last punch he dealt Sentry.

Thinkerer
Planet Hulk saga should be included in the WWHulk feats. At least from the moment he became intelligent.

carver9
Lol... they wanna exclude all of that including his run AFTER his fight with Sentry even though it's still Greenscar. They are just trolling. Ignore them.

DarkSaint85
I didn't want people arguing that he was weakened from the portal or Surfer was weakened etc....but if he has no feats, then sure let's include Planet Hulk as well.

Carver, if feats after the Sentry fight were not included, what would his next best feat be? Speed/Durability/Strength.

carver9
Lol... why do you think im going to participate in a bait thread? Now if you ask me what's Greenscar aka WWH best ft, we can start there.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85

WWH doesn't have the feats, but he does have the fights in his limited appearances to put him above Savage.

See how phucking easy it is to type?? You're just a combination of the male epitome of manliness, sexiness, and intelligence with a sprinkle of arrogance, and just can't bring yourself to agree even when I'm on your side.

Just a repeat of what you said.

DarkSaint85

DarkSaint85
In comparison:

Rune King Thor appeared in 5 issues
DoS Doomsday appeared in 7 issues
Cosmic Skyfather Thor appeared in like 4 issues
Konvikt has 14 issues
Damage has 23 issues
Titus has 5 issues (lol)

Yet these guys are used and are limited to their showings. Nobody would take Thor's highest showings, stack Surfer's highest showings on top, and then stack Odin's highest showings on top - no, we have to use what we saw Thor did in his own run.

Yet with WWH, all I get are excuses.

carver9
How many issues did Greenscar appear in?

DarkSaint85
No idea. Probably more than that though.

I just find it strange that Cosmic Skyfather Thor has 5 issues and we know his feats.

Titus has 5 issues. DoS Doomsday has 7 issues and we know where he stands. RKT.

Then when it comes to WWH, despite me specifying clearly, noooooo we need more issues, 40 issues (in case I missed some) aren't enough, we need this issue and that issue and this storyline and that. Can't we just use the ones named above? Just follow the parameters in the thread? No need to overcomplicate things.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No idea. Probably more than that though.

I just find it strange that Cosmic Skyfather Thor has 5 issues and we know his feats.

Titus has 5 issues. DoS Doomsday has 7 issues and we know where he stands. RKT.

Then when it comes to WWH, despite me specifying clearly, noooooo we need more issues, 40 issues (in case I missed some) aren't enough, we need this issue and that issue and this storyline and that. Can't we just use the ones named above? Just follow the parameters in the thread? No need to overcomplicate things.

Cosmic Thor still gets his Odin Force Thor fts. Also, aren't you the guy that said his durability is weak because he got knocked over by a boulder? Why are you trying to praise him?

What did Titus do and lol, DOS Doomsday sucks. Based off that entire book, he's high meta. Youre the one that used fts outside of DOS to try and argue where his power level stands.

We have fts for WWH. He stomped the Xmen, stomped the fantastic Four, one punching your nanosecond, planetary shield covering, Sue Storm with one hit while defeating the entire Fantastic Four. Stomped Strange. Beat Sentry who in the same comic was compared to Galactus. Beat an amped Ironman. He literally wrecked everyone on earth. What more did you want? Maybe he should've crushed something twice the size of earth like Grey Hulk did. Next thread, Grey Hulk vs WWH.

carver9
Also, in the WWH arc, he went World Breaker. Same story, same comic. Does that count?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Cosmic Thor still gets his Odin Force Thor fts. Also, aren't you the guy that said his durability is weak because he got knocked over by a boulder? Why are you trying to praise him?

What did Titus do and lol, DOS Doomsday sucks. Based off that entire book, he's high meta. Youre the one that used fts outside of DOS to try and argue where his power level stands.

We have fts for WWH. He stomped the Xmen, stomped the fantastic Four, one punching your nanosecond, planetary shield covering, Sue Storm with one hit while defeating the entire Fantastic Four. Stomped Strange. Beat Sentry who in the same comic was compared to Galactus. Beat an amped Ironman. He literally wrecked everyone on earth. What more did you want? Maybe he should've crushed something twice the size of earth like Grey Hulk did. Next thread, Grey Hulk vs WWH.

Is this not what you're doing? Using Sue's feats from outside the WWH books, using Strange's, using Darwin's?

Thinkerer
He didnt reslly stomp Zom Strange though. He surprised attacked Strange in a moment where Strange thought he wouldnt/couldnt. Then as Zom he gave up eventually, because it didnt feel right becoming evil to beat Hulk.if he pressed on Zom Strange wouldve destroyed him.

Stoic
Green Skaar finishes this quickly every time, but not all day, due to the WW Hulk power cap.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Stoic
Green Skaar finishes this quickly every time, but not all day, due to the WW Hulk power cap.

Using what feats? I have three categories:

1. Strength
2. Speed
3. Durability

What feats of WWH from the 40 comics listed are better than the best of Savage's?

carver9
Originally posted by Thinkerer
He didnt reslly stomp Zom Strange though. He surprised attacked Strange in a moment where Strange thought he wouldnt/couldnt. Then as Zom he gave up eventually, because it didnt feel right becoming evil to beat Hulk.if he pressed on Zom Strange wouldve destroyed him.

His single punch dropped him, and he proceeded at ending the fight afterwards. Now factor in Strange have Zom power inside of him, the ft is Hella impressive.

Stoic

DarkSaint85

Stoic
same character with the same abilities.

Stoic
The persona that was cut out by Doom during brain surgery. The Green Scar.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Stoic
same character with the same abilities.

Perhaps, but if a thread has 'Byrne Superman' in the thread, we use showings of Byrne Superman.

If thread calls for 'classic Kingpin', we use the same.

If the thread calls for 'Pre-retcon Beyonder', we use that version, even though in Marvel, its all the same character he just has been retconned (similar to how Mjolnir was retconned to melt in the Sun, or Daredevil was retconned into being trained by Stick, or Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are actually Magneto's kids, or Bucky became the Winter Soldier etc etc.

The thread stipulated which issues to use for WWH. If you can't find any good feats in there up to the middle of the fight with Sentry, then.....that's really Marvel's fault for not showcasing them. I didn't tell them what to write, what to draw.

carver9
Get out of your feelings, Dark. Everyone, including Hulk said WWH was more powerful. Wolverine, Strange, Namor, Fantastic Four, everyone mentioned this Hulk being the strongest Hulk. Pak also referenced it. Heck, its still being shown in today's comics that WWH is the strongest version of Hulk (he appeared in Immortal Hulk AND in Indestructible Hulk). You can keep crying all you want with your attempts a depowerimg Hulk, but your tears don't change crap. All you're trying to do is cover up other people's posts so that Galan can agree with you because your lame mission is to depower Hulk.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Get out of your feelings, Dark. Everyone, including Hulk said WWH was more powerful. Wolverine, Strange, Namor, Fantastic Four, everyone mentioned this Hulk being the strongest Hulk. Pak also referenced it. Heck, its still being shown in today's comics that WWH is the strongest version of Hulk (he appeared in Immortal Hulk AND in Indestructible Hulk). You can keep crying all you want with your attempts a depowerimg Hulk, but your tears don't change crap. All you're trying to do is cover up other people's posts so that Galan can agree with you because your lame mission is to depower Hulk.

laughing out loud

My thread has clear stips. Statements without feats is all you have.

Savage Hulk has far better feats than WWH, and you know it. Come back when you have something better, otherwise Savage is just better in the feats department. Next!

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
laughing out loud

My thread has clear stips. Statements without feats is all you have.

Savage Hulk has far better feats than WWH, and you know it. Come back when you have something better, otherwise Savage is just better in the feats department. Next!

Your thread is dumb AF though. Grey Hulk has better durability and strength fts than DOS Doomsday. You would NEVER type Grey Hulk beating Doomsday though because you're bias AF.

DarkSaint85
Then.....don't post if you think it's dumb? Isn't that what you said before?

Like.....that's the stips. If someone makes a DoS Doomsday Vs Rune King Thor, I don't think people should be making an argument based on..... Professor X scans and Brainiac scans, or arguing using Pre crisis scans or whatever. The OP makes thread stipulations and we debate based on the stips.

carver9
WWH beat Sentry who defeated Savage Hulk. The same Sentry that was said to have defeated Galactus. The same Sentry who stomped Terrax. WWH beat an amped Strange. The same Strange that fought and defeated Dormammu. The same Strange (but more powerful) that has fought and defeated In Betweener along with other cosmic entities. He almost killed Darwin with a single hit. The same Darwin that took out Hela. WWH stomps. Remember, DOS Doomsday fought Superman, the same Superman who gets all of his fts.

DarkSaint85
So you agree they get all their feats? Then my work is done.

If you don't agree, then your post is - as usual - a waste of space.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you agree they get all their feats? Then my work is done.

If you don't agree, then your post is - as usual - a waste of space.

In this discussion, yep, they do. Question. In the DOS Doomsday argument we had, why did you bring up fts for Doomsday outside DOS. Previous showings?

DarkSaint85
Ahhhh so you argue things you don't believe in. Troll.

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