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This fight was hinted at in some other threads, Id like to see what happens.

Terry was the orginal badboy of SNK. But Terry hasnt won the gold since Kyo has come to town. Kyo has the super DNA, but will that be a factor when facing Terry? When it gets down to it, who is the better man?

I know that this is going to go against popular oppinion, but I am going to side with Kyo in this one, but just barely....

Those flames could prove to simply be too much, this guy deals with that crazy psycho Iori, and played a major role in the resealing of Orochi.

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Kyo, but just barely.

Thats cool, maybe we can get into discussin it when a couple more people start talkin

I think its tacky when someone makes a thread and starts in immidatly with "I think so and so will win...." I know what I think, Id like to see what other people say before I start in with my own bit, y'know.

Terry, Terry and Terry again. Terry was the champ in one on one(though hints say Ryo was) he fought in the Southtown singles tournaments and made his way past Billy to get to Geese. I know Kyo fought in a Japan singles tournament but it was nowhere in hell like Geese's KOF.

Second The "KOF" tournament is a three on three so Kyo in fact has help with his victories. Now lets get down to the two fighters. Kyo as others say may be more powerful, but Terry is most definatley the better fighter because he has the heart and the skill.

Like on the Ryu vs Terry thread I also look at the upbringings. Kyo I believe is a rich school boy and heir to the Kusanagi throne and we know he was born with flames as well as that special Kusanagi DNA.

Terry we know has know such thing but what he has is SKILLS that were developed from his own training and experince....and yes Terry I believe has had way more experience than Kyo, and before people tell me "Kyo has fought godly opponents and defeated them" lets look at the facts, Orochi is harmed by the flames of Kusanagi and Yagami and Chizuru's powers...thats all. I imagine if Terry and Ryo had these flames as well how fast they could put down Orochi so Kyo fighting more "powerful" foes does not count...well at least to me is dosent.

Now if Terry and Kyo fought I believe it would be a match but I say Kusanagi would lose due to his arrogence and yes Kyo will underestamate Terry cause he stronger the way Krauser did. As well if the fight got very intense Terry would get a thrill and in fact I believe enjoying the fight while Kyo may be getting a little frustrated and since Terry has got the better streetfighting and martial arts tactics, I think he will be the victorious one.

Well, Ill say some stuff before I go to bed.

I agree, this is a close fight, and Im not belitting Kyo here, but it seems to me the focus of Kyo's story isnt the fact he is great at fighting, but it involves his bloodline. Like the Orochi thing, that was a big deal, but he only could do it because of his bloodline right? If Terry had the same last name, he could do it. Also, if you want to include the movie, Terry has had a similar, plot driven triumph in the Motion Picture when he destroyed the god of war, aided by his friends and a power boost from his girlfriend.

Now, I havnt paid much attention to the KoF plot after 2000, but from what I know, it seems Kyo gets by with potential of his bloodline, but lacks focus. Thats just what I get from his arrogance. I think if Terry was serious about the fight, he could win. Terry has experience with good fighting skill, and he has heart. Kyo has vast potential and strength, as well as good fighting skill. Kyo's arrogance is a downfall as well, I think, most times out of 10 Terry would be the better man.

What does anyone else think?

And I havnt played the last like 3 KoF, so I dont know about any power ups that Kyo has had, if he has had any. Although in 2000 he did change his clothes.

Oh Kyo has skills, he had to practicethe Kusanagi fighting style, which specialises in bringing out the flames, maybe not on par with Terry's, but his natural power and the skill to bring that power out and use more than makes up for it.

Kyo defeated Krizalid with one blow when nobody else could touch him, and he defeated Rugal on his own. Yes he had help with Orochi and Goenitz, but seriously, Terry and Ryo would ge eaten alive if they tried that... The fact is that Terry and Ryo "DON'T have the flames of Kusanagi and Kyo does... Don't discount Kyo's feats simply because Terry can't do the same please...

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Oh Kyo has skills, he had to practicethe Kusanagi fighting style, which specialises in bringing out the flames, maybe not on par with Terry's, but his natural power and the skill to bring that power out and use more than makes up for it.

Kyo defeated Krizalid with one blow when nobody else could touch him, and he defeated Rugal on his own. Yes he had help with Orochi and Goenitz, but seriously, Terry and Ryo would ge eaten alive if they tried that... The fact is that Terry and Ryo "DON'T have the flames of Kusanagi and Kyo does... Don't discount Kyo's feats simply because Terry can't do the same please...

Now that is definaley a matter of opinion. I believe I already said that Terry does not have the flames of Kusanagi as well as Ryo. I did not say I discounted Kyo NOW DID I I was merely stating that Terry has more technique and the better fighter while Kyo may be more powerful. Terry not doing the same my ass and please back at you.

Maybe I misread, but you speculated that if Terry and Ryo had the flames, they would whoop Orochi's ass, while I would agree wholeheartedly with that statement, all I can say that it was wishful thinking (A wish I had too since some of Kyo's techniques are horrible)

Kyo's not a horrible fighter, even without his flames (Points at Shingo) This guy hangs with some of the best, and he has no powers whatsoever, AND HE USES KUSANAGI RYU TECHNIQUES. Can't be all that bad.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Maybe I misread, but you speculated that if Terry and Ryo had the flames, they would whoop Orochi's ass, while I would agree wholeheartedly with that statement, all I can say that it was wishful thinking (A wish I had too since some of Kyo's techniques are horrible)

Kyo's not a horrible fighter, even without his flames (Points at Shingo) This guy hangs with some of the best, and he has no powers whatsoever, AND HE USES KUSANAGI RYU TECHNIQUES. Can't be all that bad.

Okay I did not say Kyo was a horrible fighter...my bad I am just saying Terry is the better fighter for those reasons mentioned above and in my opinion just like everyone else. I said yes if Terry and Ryo had the flaming powers they who own orochi faster.

Since you pointed at Shingo well look at Rock Howard Terry's pupil(damn may have to make this another thread)he has got the skill of Geese and Terry.

Kyo is really cool n stuff.. but for me it would come down to options.. terry's supers are more offensive, and less self-endangering..
i.e. triple geyser vs that serpent wave, or even the combo super... kyo always puts himself into the supermove whereas terry can recover more easily

rising tackle in KoF is especially strong (last time I used it) because the first movement before he spins off the ground counters most physical hits ..... R.E.D kick would have to be timed pretty good to knock down a rising tackle or a power dunk..

burning knuckle would probably be seldom used, since both characters have very fast ground projectiles (something which crackshot used to own.. but they nerfed it in later KoFs.. it has less height now.. -_-)

Terry wins this.
Kyo was at his strongest against Orochi because he possessed a part of Orochis weakness, and still needed help to defeat him. After 97, Kyo lost a lot of his power and to this day, has not regained it.

Terry on the other hand, has consistently become stronger.

Rock Howard vs Kyo would be another interesting thread.

So far it seems the consensus that Terry would win, but I havnt seen or heard any evidence proving Terry is above Kyo, which speaks volumes to how close a battle it really is.

i will say kyo would win.I know i will go against the opnion of the majority,but i believe that his super dna and his training on kusanagis style should make him stronger, and also kyos rival is a lot stronger than terrys,and in the martial arts we say that what makes a person stronger is a good rival.And also, kyo history is a very sad one, he looks like an arrogant person to try to hide his inner sadness

I'm gunna have to say Terry

Also, don't forget that Kyo is rivaled to Ryu.

Originally posted by Sonic x 20
Also, don't forget that Kyo is rivaled to Ryu.

Well because like Onikirimaru stated SNK probably did not want an american representing them.

Though what puzzles me is if you look at The CvS Card fighting series Terry is Paired with not Kyo.

I meant to say Terry was paired with Ryu in the card fighting series.

Are you refering to the secret teamups?

Originally posted by Onikirimaru
Are you refering to the secret teamups?

No... have you ever played SNK vs Capcom Card Fighters Clash? and there was another one called expanded edition I believe(never played it) but the First card fighters game shows Terry in the front of the SNK characters for The SNK card deck and The Capcom card deck ofcourse has Ryu. As well Terry and Ryu are the highest cards and the Expanded edition shows both Terry and Ryu on the cover.

Here are a few pics..hope they work.

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http://www.castleofcollectibles.com/library/ngf/ngf-99-10.jpg

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K, I got ya. Yeah i played the games, just didnt remember in game rivalries.

Hey, what was Kyo's BP in that game? I think i remember it being higher than Terry's.

Originally posted by Onikirimaru
K, I got ya. Yeah i played the games, just didnt remember in game rivalries.

Hey, what was Kyo's BP in that game? I think i remember it being higher than Terry's.

No Terry's card is higher than Kyo's

Terry's is 1000 like Ryu's...Kyo's I believe is 800

Originally posted by P-Geyser
No Terry's card is higher than Kyo's

Terry's is 1000 like Ryu's...Kyo's I believe is 800

Thats what I meant to say, I said it backwards.

Hmm, think SNK was trying to tell us something?

Originally posted by Onikirimaru
Thats what I meant to say, I said it backwards.

Hmm, think SNK was trying to tell us something?

I think so also I believe Ryo's BP was higher than Kyo's being 900.

Terry BP 1000 and he didnt stun after attacking

Ryo 900 BP

Kyo 800 BP 500 direct damage when first played

Alternate Kyo 800 BP 300 damage to all opposing characters

The Terry card was set-up as the Main SNK character card while SF2/3 Ryu represented Capcom.

Other characters with a higher BP than Kyo were

Geese
Zero Akuma
Krauser
Mech Zangeif
Haoumaru
Orochi Iori
Lucifer
Sagat
Blodia
Powered up Sakura
Powered-up Daigo
Strider
Pyron
Jin

I think Jin was 800 but could KO a character while KOing himself, which proves useful more often than not.

Terry is the Original hero of SNk followed by Kyo... they are friends ryt? i think this battle is a great match... well if you see Terry can defeat kyo one on one street fight... without using there real true powers. assuming that they use powers may be it will be tied uo. coz terry can counter the moves of kyo & Powers... Terry will win for sure by his power not power geyser.. The Hakyokoseiken final attack whirl wind kick or punch. this move is powerful than the flames... remember how's terry beat the God in TMP. Terry could beat kyo for sure... coz terry is a One Of a Kind

if u wouldnt agree... it's fine just try me on arcade it will settle the truth...

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Oh Kyo has skills, he had to practicethe Kusanagi fighting style, which specialises in bringing out the flames, maybe not on par with Terry's, but his natural power and the skill to bring that power out and use more than makes up for it.

Kyo defeated Krizalid with one blow when nobody else could touch him, and he defeated Rugal on his own. Yes he had help with Orochi and Goenitz, but seriously, Terry and Ryo would ge eaten alive if they tried that... The fact is that Terry and Ryo "DON'T have the flames of Kusanagi and Kyo does... Don't discount Kyo's feats simply because Terry can't do the same please...

When did Kyo defeat Krizalid? I thought K' beat him?

Oh Kyo has skills, he had to practicethe Kusanagi fighting style, which specialises in bringing out the flames, maybe not on par with Terry's, but his natural power and the skill to bring that power out and use more than makes up for it.

Kyo defeated Krizalid with one blow when nobody else could touch him, and he defeated Rugal on his own. Yes he had help with Orochi and Goenitz, but seriously, Terry and Ryo would ge eaten alive if they tried that... The fact is that Terry and Ryo "DON'T have the flames of Kusanagi and Kyo does... Don't discount Kyo's feats simply because Terry can't do the same please...

yah when did kyo defeated krizalid...??? tell me where & when

i have read this in kofonline.com ie was a magazine... it was befeore the site was active... when rock howard(he was still young) was hunting by NEST (6 clones of kyo of course different powers + Krizalid) terry bogard was protecting him. at the fight 4 clones of kyo was attacking terry bogard. they'd jump up 2 terry. terry uses rising tackle... the 4 clones was hit & stunned & defeated. they run again but the 2 clone was close 2 them & terry fight again & then terry won. Krizalid was there 2 and now terry vs krizalid ( i cant believe that he can still fight) almost terry was so tired was blooded battle 2 krizalid. he has show the opening and uses crack shot hit at the shoulder.. Krizalid was stunned and won again run... terry was very tired at this moment. another nest member KULA has gotten the way of terry & rock. u know terry cant fight he almost uses his power to defeat those clones... and then KULA(anti k) challenge terry, and if he hit Kula ones she will leave terry & rock... then the fight started terry uses power geyser. kula countered it with ice. the p.geyser. burn knuckle it was block terry. fight with his fist his hands was frozen. kula countered. and he uses ice to turned terry frozen with ice that he will never break through dies 2 cold. terry was defeated not yet... terry saw rocks in trouble the wolf spirits was with him & break the ice then he hit KULA once in the Stomach so hard... terry won...

this is serious any one reading kof magazines.... so now what can u say about terry. he prove himself as a Worthy Fighter

Terry is more powerful than kyo...
as u see if only SNK include the real power of terry.. ( the Hackyukoseiken that master tung po rue has given him power) it would be terry stay's undefeated...

i have read this in kofonline.com it was a magazine... it was befeore the site was active... when rock howard(he was still young) was hunting by NEST (6 clones of kyo of course different powers + Krizalid) terry bogard was protecting him. at the fight 4 clones of kyo was attacking terry bogard. they'd jump up 2 terry. terry uses rising tackle... the 4 clones was hit & stunned & defeated. they run again but the 2 clone was close 2 them & terry fight again & then terry won. Krizalid was there 2 and now terry vs krizalid ( i cant believe that he can still fight) almost terry was so tired was blooded battle 2 krizalid. he has show the opening and uses crack shot hit at the shoulder.. Krizalid was stunned and won again run... terry was very tired at this moment. another NEST member KULA has gotten the way of terry & rock. u know terry cant fight he almost uses his power to defeat those clones... and then KULA(anti k) challenge terry, and if he hit Kula ones she will leave terry & rock... then the fight started terry uses power geyser, kula countered it with ice... the p.geyser become ice remember the special of kula int kof games. burn knuckle it was block terry. fight with his fist his hands was frozen. kula countered. and he uses ice(this move is to grab an opponent to turned terry frozen with ice that he will never break through dies 2 cold. terry was defeated not yet... terry saw rocks in trouble the wolf spirits was with him & break the ice then he hit KULA once in the Stomach so hard... terry won...

this is serious any one reading kof magazines.... so now what can u say about terry. he prove himself as a Worthy Fighter

Terry is more powerful than kyo...
as u see if only SNK include the real power of terry.. (the Hackyukoseiken that master tung po rue has given him power) it would be terry stay's undefeated...

Truly still undefeated south town (SVC CHAOS TERRY VS GUILE) when talk over starts...
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Kyo. The fire would simply overwhelm Terry.

As stated many times before. Kyo is the Main Character of the SNK modern day universe. Kyo would win period. It's just like How Naruto and Ichigo always come through even against opponents who theoretically should be way more experienced and skilled. not to mention more powerful.

Kyo is the always the main character... that's why SNK always changing Hero team...

God of mars was a Pure Flame... Y is that terry didnt' die of that flames like hell. coz the hakyoukuseiken is too much powerful than flames...
Terry bogard is has. A mix skil(martial arts)l Terry Has a Power Geyser(like a volcan blows). Hackyokoseiken(Whirlwind)...
how coul he be defeated...

God of mars was a Pure Flame... Y is that terry didnt' die of that flames like hell. coz the hakyoukuseiken is too much powerful than flames...
Terry bogard is has. A mix skil(martial arts)l Terry Has a Power Geyser(like a volcan blows). Hackyokoseiken(Whirlwind)...
how could he be defeated...

I have to go with Terry.

I mean KOF Story line and FF. arnt a Unified Snk storyline to begin with.

Each were the best poster boy for thier own storyline to. And Terry had defeated Gesse, Krouser, Gin Twins, and Later on a powerd up Gin Scrols Gesse. on top of that.

Kyo is kinda lazzy when it comes to training and getting stronger
While Kyo seeks to improve to become better.

6/10 for the hungry lone wolf.

Originally posted by id369
I have to go with Terry.

I mean KOF Story line and FF. arnt a Unified Snk storyline to begin with.

Each were the best poster boy for thier own storyline to. And Terry had defeated Gesse, Krouser, Gin Twins, and Later on a powerd up Gin Scrols Gesse. ++ Yamazaki (that has also orochi's Blood)

Kyo is kinda lazzy when it comes to training and getting stronger
While Kyo seeks to improve to become better.

6/10 for the hungry lone wolf.

Nahh im just add sumting eheheh... all who comes in here will just clik the result so that you will know who's the strongest...

hey, where is Drunk-of-fury?

I guess i'll have to take his place.
Terry defeated a greek mythology god so Kyo should run away if he wants to keep his life

Originally posted by IcePunk
hey, where is Drunk-of-fury?

I guess i'll have to take his place.
Terry defeated a greek mythology god so Kyo should run away if he wants to keep his life

so you have voted also... hehehehe... 11-4 terry wins.. the last vote came from you... thnx

it has been firmly established that Kyo can and in fact Did defeat Terry Bogard in KOF '94, but it was a close fight and even now they are still evenly matched as most top tier characters in KOF are usualy top tier KOF characters are so evenly matched that it really winds up being more bassed on Luck or Fate that determines a winner, K' Alba, Kyo, Terry, Ryo, King, Iori, etc all even. Terry also wanted Kyo to win, because he was familiar with the Kusanagi history and that time was drawing near for the Orochi to come again, so Terry decided to bring Kyo to the ultimate test he fought harder than he ever had before and was fighting with the intention of perhaps even Killing Kyo if Kyo coulden't win, the fight was odd tho, it didn't seem like either was more powerfull than the other, and it was more Fate Driven than anything else.

Terry was not able to use his power Geyser, he was miliseconds away from it and it would have killed kyo but, Kyo pulled his finisher out of his @$$ to beat Terry, though Terry was winning for a while till then, but it started off to be blow for blow equaly matched.

the main difference is that Terry has more experience and his power is hard earned, Kyo has far more power and it comes to him naturally, he has uncharted potential and can make up any move on the fly, as he is sortof a mutant like Pheonix from X-Men, he was born with his powers and has alot of it, Terry's power only comes in certain moves that he needs to master, perfecting every movement so that he can use momentum, balance and his center to make his techniques devastating,

where as Kyo can take any move regardless of momentum and balance, taking what would be a rather pitifull and impractical move and infuse it with flame to make it devastating, though most his moves are still practical, Shingo uses them without flame and can still contend with most characters, I beleive shingo is 3rd tier, where as other sortof joke characters (such as dan) are bottom Tier, though dan has risen with a few actually usefull moves.

bassically Terry has more discipline and Experience, as well as comperable ammount of power through his training,

where as Kyo is perhaps the most flexible in terms of what he can do, and has power equal if not exceeding Terry in most moves, though Terry has quite a few stronger moves, Kyo has more moves overall and can make up ones on the fly.

Terry's experience saved Kyo from Omega Rugal in KOF 95, where Terry, Ryo and King rescued Kyo and helped defeat Rugal, Terry dealt the final blow when he was locked in a similar "punch push" but instead of just using one arm and pressing it up, Terry supported his arm with the other and not only did it make his position stronger but it increased the push more and it shattered Rugal's robotic arm, Rugal continued to attack and fired off a move that I cannot remember but it is in KOF 2002 where he fires multiple Kaiser waves, but the overuse of the power eventually destroyed him, (he could still do the kaiser wave as he had half his arm remaining, the cybernetics was only on the forearm and his Ki or spirit arm was still full, so he had enough energy in his bio upperarm and the spirit forearm left to focus it, though each kaiser wave werent as strong (about 75% the strength of his normal one )) each one was still about 50% stronger than the one that Krauser used on Terry.

I rarely use the Greeko Roman war god defeat as a basis for my favouring Terry, it is defenetly a legitimate statement, but you can't win a debate with it alone, if in fact Terry can win at all, beleive it or not there are a few characters out there that Terry cannot defeat, but usualy these characters are ludicrously overpowered and even in their respective series no one character can beat them.
other times the series is on a different scale and such

Originally posted by Perion
it has been firmly established that Kyo can and in fact Did defeat Terry Bogard in KOF '94, but it was a close fight and even now they are still evenly matched as most top tier characters in KOF are usualy top tier KOF characters are so evenly matched that it really winds up being more bassed on Luck or Fate that determines a winner, K' Alba, Kyo, Terry, Ryo, King, Iori, etc all even. Terry also wanted Kyo to win, because he was familiar with the Kusanagi history and that time was drawing near for the Orochi to come again, so Terry decided to bring Kyo to the ultimate test he fought harder than he ever had before and was fighting with the intention of perhaps even Killing Kyo if Kyo coulden't win, the fight was odd tho, it didn't seem like either was more powerfull than the other, and it was more Fate Driven than anything else.

Terry was not able to use his power Geyser, he was miliseconds away from it and it would have killed kyo but, Kyo pulled his finisher out of his @$$ to beat Terry, though Terry was winning for a while till then, but it started off to be blow for blow equaly matched.

the main difference is that Terry has more experience and his power is hard earned, Kyo has far more power and it comes to him naturally, he has uncharted potential and can make up any move on the fly, as he is sortof a mutant like Pheonix from X-Men, he was born with his powers and has alot of it, Terry's power only comes in certain moves that he needs to master, perfecting every movement so that he can use momentum, balance and his center to make his techniques devastating,

where as Kyo can take any move regardless of momentum and balance, taking what would be a rather pitifull and impractical move and infuse it with flame to make it devastating, though most his moves are still practical, Shingo uses them without flame and can still contend with most characters, I beleive shingo is 3rd tier, where as other sortof joke characters (such as dan) are bottom Tier, though dan has risen with a few actually usefull moves.

bassically Terry has more discipline and Experience, as well as comperable ammount of power through his training,

where as Kyo is perhaps the most flexible in terms of what he can do, and has power equal if not exceeding Terry in most moves, though Terry has quite a few stronger moves, Kyo has more moves overall and can make up ones on the fly.

Terry's experience saved Kyo from Omega Rugal in KOF 95, where Terry, Ryo and King rescued Kyo and helped defeat Rugal, Terry dealt the final blow when he was locked in a similar "punch push" but instead of just using one arm and pressing it up, Terry supported his arm with the other and not only did it make his position stronger but it increased the push more and it shattered Rugal's robotic arm, Rugal continued to attack and fired off a move that I cannot remember but it is in KOF 2002 where he fires multiple Kaiser waves, but the overuse of the power eventually destroyed him, (he could still do the kaiser wave as he had half his arm remaining, the cybernetics was only on the forearm and his Ki or spirit arm was still full, so he had enough energy in his bio upperarm and the spirit forearm left to focus it, though each kaiser wave werent as strong (about 75% the strength of his normal one )) each one was still about 50% stronger than the one that Krauser used on Terry.

I rarely use the Greeko Roman war god defeat as a basis for my favouring Terry, it is defenetly a legitimate statement, but you can't win a debate with it alone, if in fact Terry can win at all, beleive it or not there are a few characters out there that Terry cannot defeat, but usualy these characters are ludicrously overpowered and even in their respective series no one character can beat them.
other times the series is on a different scale and such

Very good break down. To be honest there have been alot of scenerios dealing with KOF 94. First off there were two KOF 94 manga's and I have one of them. The one I have Terry defeats Kyo due to Kyo's arrogence and understamation. The other manga has Kyo winning but the Japan Team deafeated the women's team because Fatal Fury and AOF were at a stalemate(I persaonally belive this is what happened) even Kailu Lanti's story never clamed Kyo officially beat Terry Bogard.

I also read the story on were Terry let Kyo deafeat him because Kyo needed to find out about his father....I actually like that story also but I would not call it official.

As for the Terry vs Kyo matchup Terry is definatley the better fighter and Tactian. I agree though what makes Kyo strong is his ablility to weild flames and his "special" genes. As far as Kyo's fighting and martial arts ability goes it's okay but not like Terry and Ryo's and such.

Brainchild once mentioned how I am a "pissed" off fan. Well now that I think about it it is true not because Terry is not the main guy anymore, it's the fact they hype Kyo as being untouchable and proof of this is HK KOF comics were Kyo and Iori act like DBZ gods. Alot of people who are green to KOF have this idea that Kyo is this superior fighter which I dont think is true at all.

Sh!t gotta get back to work....till next time.

Alot of stories have come out from SNK, and i believe that a true battle between kyo and terry will be undecided.Just like that of Ryo and Terry.

Probably becuase many Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting fans would not take the news of Terry or Ryo having lost to some kid that just showed up out of nowhere.

Honestly speaking i would go for Terry on this one. Not just becuase of experience and strategy. But becuase his will to fight out wits Kyo's will. And I also agree about the stupid misconception of Kyo and Iroi being the highest of the highest.That's a bunch of crap!

Originally posted by Shirizatu16
Alot of stories have come out from SNK, and i believe that a true battle between kyo and terry will be undecided.Just like that of Ryo and Terry.

Probably becuase many Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting fans would not take the news of Terry or Ryo having lost to some kid that just showed up out of nowhere.

Honestly speaking i would go for Terry on this one. Not just becuase of experience and strategy. But becuase his will to fight out wits Kyo's will. And I also agree about the stupid misconception of Kyo and Iroi being the highest of the highest.That's a bunch of crap!

Thnak you are not an enemy eheheh just kidding.. youre ryt about terry. I beleve terry wont lose to kyo. y? look for the Votings... hehehe that all.

As far as i concern this kof wont make terry any longer a HERO. it just to make ryo & terry a mascot in KOF.

But the majority of All Terry Still The Best. OKAY this is settle kyo-4 terry 13 it is obvious there are more favor to terry Bogarad as the Champion

I give it to Terry. Kyo because his DNA does seem to weild the greatest power of the SNK figthers, but i think he lacks the experience and hard earned skill. Kyo doesnt have the stamina either, in MY OPINON.

This is a hard one to determine, I agree that Terry is definitely more experienced, has learned many powerful martial artsand has all the tools in his techniques, plus he has that indomidable fighting spirit.

However, Kyo's crimson flames and natural powers, plus his own Kusanagi style martial arts style does close that gap considerably... I'm undecided, if Kyo had the dedication to his art that Iori had we peobably wouldn't even have this conversation...

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
This is a hard one to determine, I agree that Terry is definitely more experienced, has learned many powerful martial artsand has all the tools in his techniques, plus he has that indomidable fighting spirit.

However, Kyo's crimson flames and natural powers, plus his own Kusanagi style martial arts style does close that gap considerably... I'm undecided, if Kyo had the dedication to his art that Iori had we peobably wouldn't even have this conversation...

Hmm and I wonder if Terry was born with "special powers" plus all of his hard earned skills and fighting spirit would we be having this conversation as well...

it's a matter of conjecture... Terry could theoretically earn his powers (Or do what Geese did with the Jin Scrolls... That would be awesome), but Kyo's talents are a natural benefit of his bloodline, if he put the same dedication into his fighting skills as Iori or Terry, he really would be a very powerful character, however, he has a choice, Terry will never have the natural power that Kyo has.

What Terry does have though is mad skillz that he EARED

Touche. Though I think Kyo will never have the fighting spirit that Terry has. I also tend to think Kyo is like some kind of mutant...Terry I believe has natural power within...so does Ryo. I just like fighters that develop their skill through hard work and determination not one's who are born with special powers and by this they seem to get by. I wonder if Kyo had no such bloodline and had to rely on pure skill....I think he would get owned.

He'd be like Shingo...........

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
He'd be like Shingo...........

In honesty I think Shingo has alot of potential.

yeah, but still, thast exactly how Kyo would be without the flames (Well exept for the falling over all the time )

ai guys why dont you vote? ehehehe i know this conversation ends... terry wins.

Ok, I am ressurecting this discussion due to the fact that many people here have now gone back to bashing certain characters and making Terry look better...

discuss please, cause I and a few others have made some very decent points on how and why Kyo is up there with the best of them.

And the people defending Terry have not?(Carrot means well though)

I didn't say that, but in most posts do you want to know what I see?

Kyo is nothing but an upstart punk with no skill. Terry wins

Thats not an argument, thats mindless bahing without cause.

In Order to get to the Bottom of why they should Win, you Have to Give Detail of Why they should Win instead of Insulting them All the Time like Kyo would Win because He can Control Fire or Terry would Win because He Fought Longer, something like that.

Originally posted by Sonic x 20
In Order to get to the Bottom of why they should Win, you Have to Give Detail of Why they should Win instead of Insulting them All the Time like Kyo would Win because He can Control Fire or Terry would Win because He Fought Longer, something like that.

I agree....as he pointed out that people insult Kyo for stupid reasons, people have also insluted Terry for stupis reasons as well which I saw.

Reasons like this Fighter would Win because He's Cooler or Wears Better Clothes doesn't show any True Statement of why they should Win.

Originally posted by Sonic x 20
Reasons like this Fighter would Win because He's Cooler or Wears Better Clothes doesn't show any True Statement of why they should Win.

heheheh...yeah

And that is the kind of stuff i am so heated about, if we are to have a proper debate, we have to debate it properly, and not because we like or dislike the character...

Also, if anyone said anything like tht about the character I oppose, I would say the exact same thing to them, I dislike silly posts, but I dislike silly people who do it repetedly even more...

Leave me a private message then telling me of those who sides with Terry that are saying these "ridiculous things"

done

in my opinion terry is better way ahead.... terry is more like terry vs ryu.... not kyo vs ryu. this is a violation just because terry its not from japan he was not able to be the stronget.... well he is anyways... kyo is just for the covers of magazines of something.... terry stays as a shadow of him.... jaja it would be amazing be on covers but when u r the real champion, but not when u r not.... jaja poor kyo i know he is stron too... but jaja it sounds sad having a shadow behind...(lone wolf)

are you from holland or something ?

maybe a stupid question but...

Terry would win out right, Terry IMO is in the same class as Capcom:Ryu, Ken, SNK:Ryo,Iori to mean are above Kyo. Terry to me is more like Ryu/Ken has little bit of both of them in him, Kyo is to arrogant eventually it's going to coast him his life or put him in the hospital.

lol.. seems like more than 1 person in this thread feels terry isnt SNK posterboy because he's american

Originally posted by LockJaw is lol
hey, where is Drunk-of-fury?

I guess i'll have to take his place.
Terry defeated a greek mythology god so Kyo should run away if he wants to keep his life


I'm Right HERE!!!

And a say Terry wins cuz he has more Fighting Experience and Skills and is Stronger than Kyo.

Kyo can RUN but he CAN`T HIDE!!! Terry Find Him And Beat Him so he cant RUN ether mohahahhah

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
yeah, but still, thast exactly how Kyo would be without the flames (Well exept for the falling over all the time )

NO I Disagree,Shingo is Stronger than Kyo without the Flames and he is more willing to Train hard to be Better.

Kyo is more Curious about take a NAP,than to Train and be Stronger.
If Kyo Was to lose his Flame Shingo would own him hard cuz Shingo is more Curious about Hard Work and to be the BEST.

Kyo without the Flames=weaker than Shingo=Shingo whit Flames Stronger than Kyo and probably on the same level or Stronger than Terry!!!

shingo doesnt really have control of himself lol.. he's always falling on the floor when he does stuff