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This is not a pure fight;

this is to see who is the top Earth based living engine of mass destruction on Marvel Earth:

The Incredible Hulk

or

Storm: Mistress of the Elements

Here are the rules:

Each contestant has 1 week to wreak havoc on the planet causing as much destruction as possible.

Storm can't use and Claremont-ism's like manipulating the sun to cause the Earth to over heat or somehow pulling a solar flare out of no where. She can only use actual weather effects.

Hulk can not simply punch the planet and knock it off it's axis, and no "Hulk goes to the Earth's Core and punches the Earth in half" either.

Both are going for surface damage (destroying buildings, cars, houses, stadiums, killing people, etc).

Neither can simply attack a nuclear facility and set off a large explosion. Damage must be caused by use of their powers on the surface environment.

Who wins?

Discuss.

Storm. Her bio states that she can create a weather pattern the size of the Eastern Coast of the U.S. Imagine what damage she could do in a week.

Come on people this is a good thread. Forget about Wolverine for two seconds!!!

Hulk easily

You don't think if Hulk went apeshit he could wreck a continent's worth of infrastructure in a day GS?

Storm. She could probably spend that week fueling a massive hurrince that pulls down hideously cold air from above the Troposphere. Create a new Ice age on the continent(s) of her choice.

Hulk could go to the bottom of the ocean and cause gigantic tidal waves. Or toss large icebergs and glaciers around...

But wouldnt hulk have to be sufficiently angry to be doing such high level things as that? I believe Storm would be able to do far more damage in a week. Her powers operate over a far greater range. And yes one need only look at the recent weather related disasters to see how much can be wrecked. Now imagine such disasters psionically controlled and manipulated in an effort to cause as much damage as possible in a week.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But wouldnt hulk have to be sufficiently angry to be doing such high level things as that? I believe Storm would be able to do far more damage in a week. Her powers operate over a far greater range. And yes one need only look at the recent weather related disasters to see how much can be wrecked. Now imagine such disasters psionically controlled and manipulated in an effort to cause as much damage as possible in a week.
nope he doesn't need anger for such feats.

look at hulk's feat of power you will see it will take Hulk few mins........

Strom has her limits

Okay. In terms of destruction to the land itself, Hulk wins. He could literally just start punching the ground, destroy everythign around him, and leap along elsewhere. And, if he decides to cross an ocean, at top swimming speeds near the surface, his strokes create huge waves, so that means really bad damage on coastal areas. If he made it to Antarctica, he could snap off state-sized chunks of ice into the ocean. That would cause all kinds of short and long term damage.

Storm, on the other hand, would be able to effect a wider area in the short team (creating a storm the size of the East coast and wipe a continent or two clean), but the long term effects would be more along the lines of economic strain, disease, famine. Basically all the sh*t we're seeing in New Orleans on a global scale.

Frankly... they both seem fairly even. Just different kinds of destruction. either way the world would be f*cked, though.

Ok, for arguments sake:

Let's say Hulk is being empathically enraged by some hatemongering device that causes his anger to stay at extreme heights. He's at Class .25 million tons (250,000 tons) and rising.

For the sake of the debate, of course.

Does that help?

Hulk. He's far more powerful. One hit from his punches could shatter a mountain. Nothin Storm could bring to bear'd be able to match that kinda destructive power.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Ok, for arguments sake:

Let's say Hulk is being empathically enraged by some hatemongering device that causes his anger to stay at extreme heights. He's at Class .25 million tons (250,000 tons) and rising.

For the sake of the debate, of course.

Does that help?

But isnt that unfair becxause he's virtually tireless in such a state and Storm will get exhausted after a few hours if that.

Hmm...

You have a point GS.

Ok, for the sake of this debate:

Neither tire.

Hulk is at Superman's base strength level starting (roughly 250,000 tons).

Storm is on a purified dose of Kick that lasts the entire week.

How's that?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Hmm...

You have a point GS.

Ok, for the sake of this debate:

Neither tire.

Hulk is at Superman's base strength level starting (roughly 250,000 tons).

Storm is on a purified dose of Kick that lasts the entire week.

How's that?
Then I go back to my statement. The world is f*cked, just in different ways.

I don't know. That "Ice Age" thing you said before has a lot of applications.

I saw that movie The Day After Tomorrow.

Imagine big rig sized hail stones falling from 20,000 feet all over the planet.

At first I wanted to go with the Hulk, but if Storm is on kick and has the stamina to last the full week I have to give it to her. She could simply take the hot air from the equator, send it to the south pole and get some major flooding (along with a week of constant rain all over the world)

Storm.

Recent events have shown that nothing on this planet can resist the Mother Nature.

Although Hulk could cause an good deal of damage, Storm can just do it on wider range.

Hulk smashed an asteroid bigger than the Earth into pieces. Nuff said.

He could also move tectonic plates causing so many Earthquakes in such a short time.

Too many ways for hulk to win this one.

Originally posted by Maestro
Hulk smashed an asteroid bigger than the Earth into pieces. Nuff said.

If you read the threadmakers first post you will see why that changes nothing.

Storm all the way.

I hate bad writing. The hulk should never be able to lift a mountain or drag tectonic plates. Why? without some way to interally reinforce the rock, it would crumble in his hands from the stress he would put on it.

Lets say, for the sake of the argument, hulk was told Earth has stolen his woman. We all know dumb he is, so it wouldn't be too hard for someone like Doom to convince him of this. If he's at 250,000 tons, he's going to just start mauling the shit out of things. He will be sonic clapping with enough force to level cities, stomping with the power to cause serious structural damage to the world at large.

Storm on the other hand can cause large scale external damage, but I don't see her doing any earth-damage, like leveling mountains. The closest thing she could accomplish next to that would be flooding.

Like Khell said, two types of destruction. Hulk would probably cause enough stress to cause volcanos and the such to form and/or become active. This guy is gonna be pounding the shit out of things, and if he's got sufficient reason he'll just be going at it like a pair of pornstars.

Storm would level a city easy. So i think this fight could fair well for her for a while.
However she would tire using the vastly superior amounts needed to hurt Hulk.
I kinda like my pics.

Originally posted by Wonderman
Storm would level a city easy. So i think this fight could fair well for her for a while.
However she would tire using the vastly superior amounts needed to hurt Hulk.
I kinda like my pics.

You havent read the thread have you?

Storm doesnt tire for the sake of this match, shes on Kick and is at full power for the entire week. Anyone who has read Uncanny recently will know that as this match is in terms of surface damage Storm wins

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You havent read the thread have you?

Storm doesnt tire for the sake of this match, shes on Kick and is at full power for the entire week. Anyone who has read Uncanny recently will know that as this match is in terms of surface damage Storm wins agreed.

Any other takers?

I'll take Storm on this. Hulk I think could eventualy do more damage, but Storm would get her destruction done more quickly with all the different weather phenomena at her disposal. Plus, she doesn't tire.

What about a Magneto vs Hulk under the same conditions?

Originally posted by StyleTime
I'll take Storm on this. Hulk I think could eventualy do more damage, but Storm would get her destruction done more quickly with all the different weather phenomena at her disposal. Plus, she doesn't tire.

What about a Magneto vs Hulk under the same conditions?

I think a magneto Vs Storm thread under the same conditions would be interesting

Storm. Sorry hulkster, but while you're demolishing a city, Storm is attacking the entire costal region.

Id say Storm, i dunno if w/o Rachel amplifying her powers she could create a hyperstorm but even w/o her shes still extremely powerful. Winds to create Tsunamis, Lightning to spark unstoppable infernos, and then to top it all off, a hyperstorm plummetting earth into its next ice age.

Again. Day After Tommorrow.

On a large scale, I supposed Storm could knock down more buildings.

But on the other had, if Hulk gets really cheesed he can lay down some rubble.

It's really only because of the scale that makes it questionable.

And Magneto would totally whomp Storm in this scenario.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
On a large scale, I supposed Storm could knock down more buildings.

But on the other had, if Hulk gets really cheesed he can lay down some rubble.

It's really only because of the scale that makes it questionable.

And Magneto would totally whomp Storm in this scenario.

Debatable. Make the thread with the same circumstances and lets discuss it

You make a thread. I don't know what new threads are. In fact... where am I?

Storm

Storm wins.

*bump*

"Hulk rip head off" Hulk wins.

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
"Hulk rip head off" Hulk wins.

Ummm yeah because thats exactly what this thread is about

Powerful One is great - no matter who Storm is fighting or what the thread is about, s/he always say Storm wins - even when Storm isn't in the thread! Now that's loyalty!