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Who can beat kung lao. I don't think nobody in video games can beat kung lao as a pure fighter. Name some names i want anybody to name some names and tell me who can beat kung lao.

what are u smoking almost everyone in street fighter will own him even the chicks from dead or alive will finish him.also virtual fighter and tekken characters will own him
the ninja turtles will own his ass

are you smokin he is a top fighter. Tell me how will ryu own him. Ryu only distance moves is the hadoken. That's probably all he got from a distance. That's means he would have to get up close and you know if he gets up close to kung lao it will have to get ugly. Remember kung lao can teleport, throw his hat, he has the spinning lao. Don't forget about the fatlality. This is a clear death match. Ryu is overrated. As for the dead or alive and tekken i won't respond to that right know.

Look, before you go spouting anything off, know what you're talking about. Ryu has enough raw energy power to blow Kung Lao's temple to bits. This is not overrating; this is part of the SF continuity. Kung Lao can... throw his hat. Wow. Dead.

and Lao can teleport lol. Close fight, but I still choose Ryu.

Dude, that teleport got you uppercutted every damn time and you know it. That teleport was just a stupid idea for trigger happy people.

Ryu owns him, even deus says it.

true, so I would not used it, but Ryu lacks a Uppercut like the MK people. So Lao could come back from being jab or kick out of it maybe.

Ryu's fireball is faster than Lao's hat thown. and if Lao try to do that jump knee kick he does, a shakon will counter that.

But like I said, Ryu's fireball is SLOW compare to the speed of Kangs fireball, and I dont see Lao beating Kang 2.

Actually, down and Fierce punch button is an uppercut exactly like the Mk one, and the Dragon Punch would be worse.

it does not have the SAME effect like a MK uppercutt, It does not relly knock a person off there feet.

Different game physics. SF characters move faster and are mor eflexible because they have more frame animations, and they all respond differently. They also don't go flying at a seemingly simple punch. MK is horribly unrealistic in that regard.

Sf did move faster compare to MK1 and MK2, than MK3 and UMK3 and TMK3 came rolling around, with the RUN button and yes dail in combos.

with thsos impovements, it change the pace of the fight. But in MKDA and MKD, its hard now to campare a 3d fighting game to a 2D fighting game I suppose.

They were faster in MK3 fight series at the time.

oh yeah, its the UPPERCUT that makes em fly or a back kick.

In the classic MKgames, thsos are the only moves that made a fighter fly. Than you can follow up with Juggling.

That's because MK3 opened up a whole new range of attacks. It wasn't the same couple of buttons and same attacks all the time... there were combos. But to be honest, the look or even the hit radius of the combos meant little because they had to be executed within a minimal range. At least SF has attacks with varying ranges, powers, and presidence, etc. It's a much better balanced game.

Ok some fighters are GOD like in MK series like Kitanta or recent Noob Smoke(A 100 percent combo)

But Street fighter had its share of GOD like fighters with Akuma or out of FIRST 8 fighers, maybe Ryu and Ken.

Zangine could not get in, as he lack the moves to surpass a fireball(The fireball block thing he does in LATER SF2 games)

And once Ryu and Ken got in on Dasime, it was all over for him.

Of couse only Guile and Chun Li were the best fighters to combat Ryu/Ken. And these guys were right up there on skill level I suppose.

Ok we have 4 GODs, 2 Minor fighters, and a decent Blanka.

In the later Street fighter games, Ryu was relive from his God status, and Ken had better moves. And Akuma was GOD. and he was a GOD in SF3 3rd Strike.

To be honest, Akuma is not a god like character.

He does extreme damage, but he has limited range, is slower than some characters, and takes more damage than usual. in SFA 3, I've beaten a Shin Akuma Level 32 (After world tour beefing with power max) with a regular Karin and taken no damage!

Akuma is a character defined by his player, just like anyone else. Even Shin Bison can be a wuss if you know how to properly attack him.

Shin Bison was a beast.

the great majority of the sf character can kill with a single combo if it is well aplicated.

Terry Bogard and Ultimate Rugal can take Kung Lao.

Originally posted by Deus Ex
That's because MK3 opened up a whole new range of attacks. It wasn't the same couple of buttons and same attacks all the time... there were combos. But to be honest, the look or even the hit radius of the combos meant little because they had to be executed within a minimal range. At least SF has attacks with varying ranges, powers, and presidence, etc. It's a much better balanced game. Exactly with more options and chances to counter, special to super, normal to special.

High defense characters, low defense characters, High speed, low speed.

Etc.

Originally posted by klisbest
Who can beat kung lao. I don't think nobody in video games can beat kung lao as a pure fighter. Name some names i want anybody to name some names and tell me who can beat kung lao.

Sentinel will eat him and Magneto will rush him down until he's K.O.'ed.

People who can beat kung lao

king of Fighters

1 Andy Bogard

2 Angel

3 Benimaru Nikkaido

4 Billy Kane

5 Blue-Mary Ryan

6 Chang Koehan

7 Chin Gentsai

8 Chizuru Kagura

9 Chris

10 Clark Steel

11 Eiji Kisaragi

12 Gato

13 Geese Howard

14 Goenitz

15 Heavy D!

16 Heidern

17 Igniz

18 Iori Yagami

19 Jhun Hoon

20 Joe Higashi

21 Kim Kaphwan

22 King

23 Krizalid

24 Kula Diamond

25 Kyo Kusanagi

26 Leona Heidern

27 Lin

28 Mature

29 Mukai

30 Orochi

31 Ralf Jones

32 Rugal Bernstein

33 Ryo Sakazaki

34 Ryuji Yamazaki

35 Saisyu Kusanagi

36 Shermie

37 Takuma Sakazaki

38 Terry Bogard

39 Tizoc

40 Vanessa

41 Vice

42 Wolfgang Krauser

43 Yashiro Nanakase

44 Zero


Guilty Gear

45 Anji Mito

46 Axl Low

47 Baiken

48 Chipp Zanuff

49 Dizzy

50 Dr Faust Baldhead

51 Johnny

52 Justice

53 Kliff Undersn

54 Kuradoberi Jam

55 Ky Kiske

56 Millia Rage

57 Potemkin

58 Slayer

59 Sol Badguy

60 Testament

61 Venom

62 Zato-One

Darkstalkers

63 Anakaris

64 Bishamon

65 Demitri Maximoff

66 Donovan Baine

67 Jedah Doma

68 Jon Talbain

69 Lord Raptor

70 Morrigan Aensland

71 Pyron

72 Victor von Gerdenheim

73 Belial

Soul Calibur

74 Nightmare

Samurai Shodown

75 Basara Kubikiri

76 Genjuro Kibagami

77 Hanzo Hattori

78 Haohmaru

79 Jubei Yagyu

80 Kazuki Kazama

81 Zankuro Minazuki

Tekken

82 Armor King

83 Bryan Fury

84 Devil Jin

85 Feng Wei

86 Heihachi Mishima

87 Jack

88 Jinpachi Mishima

89 Kazuya Mishima

90 Marshall Law

91 Ogre

92 Paul Phoenix

93 Steve Fox


Street Fighter

94 Adon

95 Akuma

96 Alex

97 Balrog

98 Cammy White

99 Charlie

100 Chun-Li

101 Cody

102 Dudley

103 Fei-Long

104 Gen

105 Gill

106 Guile

107 Guy

108 Hugo

109 Ibuki

110 Juli

111 Juni

112 Ken Masters

113 M. Bison

114 Makoto

115 Oro

116 Rose

117 Ryu

118 Sagat

119 Sakura Kasugano

120 Thunder Hawk

121 Twelve

122 Urien

123 Vega

124 Yang

125 Yun

126 Zangief

Marvel

127 Blackheart

128 Cable

129 Colossus

130 Cyclops

131 Dr Doom

132 Gambit

133 Hulk

134 Iceman

135 Iron Man

136 Juggernaut

137 Magneto

138 Marrow

139 Omega Red

140 Psylocke

141 Rogue

142 Sabretooth

143 Sentinel

144 Shuma Gorath

145 Silver Samurai

146 Spider-Man

147 Storm

148 Thanos

149 Venom

150 Wolverine

Thats a list and a bit isn't it?

That's probably a concise list too.

now I sure the low rank fighters like Adon can not beat Lao. That is pushing it right there.

Originally posted by Joker1237
now I sure the low rank fighters like Adon can not beat Lao. That is pushing it right there.

Adon is pretty good, I can see him winning.

Originally posted by Joker1237
now I sure the low rank fighters like Adon can not beat Lao. That is pushing it right there.

In the original SF, Adon was the second place guy in the tournament, just under Sagat. He's -quite- skilled.

Not on the level of Lao though, a fighting monk. Well he is a monk.

I dont think Adon can beat Kung Lao relly. And I dont see Hugo beating Lao either.

Kung Lao is a monk who practices Shaolin fighting style. Adon is a Muay Tai fighting style champ. Personally, I'd never mess with the latter.

And btw, Adon has a two part chain combo that can kill most anyone in SFA 3. He's hardly weak or slow.

I'd never mess with the former either. True masters of Shaolin can throw around people with surprising ease.

Sfer Tiers

1 god tier ( Akuma, Gill, Oro , SFA3 M. Bison)

2 high tier ( M. Bison, Sagat, Ryu, Satsui no Ryu (Evil Ryu), Q)

3 high mid tier ( Ken, Gen, Rose, Charlie, Urien)

4 mid tier ( Guile, Chun-Li, Hugo, Vega, Twelve )

5 Low mid tier ( Adon, Guy, Sakura, Cody, Balrog, Cammy, Zangief, Dhalsim, T Hawk, Alex)


6 low tier ( The Twelve Dolls, Rolento, Sodom, Karin, Birdie, Necro, Dudley)

7 very low tier ( Blanka, Fei Long, Honda)

8 really low tier ( Makoto, Ibuki, Elena, Yun, Yang, Remy )

9 Sakiyo tier ( Dee Jay, R. Mika, Dan)

10 weaker than Dan tier ( Sean)

Originally posted by klisbest
Who can beat kung lao. I don't think nobody in video games can beat kung lao as a pure fighter. Name some names i want anybody to name some names and tell me who can beat kung lao.

ahhh, fanboys...

Originally posted by unrealman
Sfer Tiers

1 god tier ( Akuma, Gill, Oro , SFA3 M. Bison)

2 high tier ( M. Bison, Sagat, Ryu, Satsui no Ryu (Evil Ryu), Q)

3 high mid tier ( Ken, Gen, Rose, Charlie, Urien)

4 mid tier ( Guile, Chun-Li, Hugo, Vega, Twelve )

5 Low mid tier ( Adon, Guy, Sakura, Cody, Balrog, Cammy, Zangief, Dhalsim, T Hawk, Alex)


6 low tier ( The Twelve Dolls, Rolento, Sodom, Karin, Birdie, Necro, Dudley)

7 very low tier ( Blanka, Fei Long, Honda)

8 really low tier ( Makoto, Ibuki, Elena, Yun, Yang, Remy )

9 Sakiyo tier ( Dee Jay, R. Mika, Dan)

10 weaker than Dan tier ( Sean)

This is news to me. You got the source for this?

Originally posted by Illustrious
I'd never mess with the former either. True masters of Shaolin can throw around people with surprising ease.

Yeah, but Kung Lao is like twenty five.

Sean is weaker than Dan? Naaah...

not 2 sure if Sean is weaker than Dan.

But I think Lao can beat em both.

Looking at the list I would put Lao about the 3rd tier of fighters.

And guys like Khan and Ogena are God like status on the list.

Kang, Goro, Kintaro ete are like 2nd tier.

From the Plot guide

Tier 1: This tier should be obvious. Gill, especially, with his fire and
ice creation, angel powers, and his last boss towering status. Akuma
should be, too. By SF3, the guy can destroy mountains, islands, and stay
in deep ocean for crying out loud. And Oro beat Ryu in the SF3 tournament,
and that was despite being handicapped by binding his arm. The guy's
become powerful enough to live to 150 years or so... I won't go into a
deeper analysis due to how obvious this tier is. Who specifically is the
best among Gill, Oro, and Akuma is up in the air, but eh, tiers aren't
supposed to be THAT specific. Bison during SFA3 probably went into this
range, also. Being able to take on Ken and Sakura at the same time (only
forced to retreat due to Ryu coming to), then Rose, then all 13 Dolls, then
Guile, Chun-Li, and Charlie has got to say something.


Tier 2

M. Bison: Akuma can beat him in SF2. Whether Akuma could have beaten him
during SFA3 where he was stronger (and Akuma was most likely weaker), not
sure, but in his last state, he generally goes here from all KNOWN factual
evidence (unknown stuff like how he lost the SF2 tournament or even if he
DID since we don't know when Akuma killed him aren't being considered here
since... well, it's unknown). He's definately high up, though. His
weakened body wasn't weakened to the point where he'd really really plummet
in the tiers, and during Alpha 3 it took a rather ludicrous amount of
consecutive battles against multiple opponents to finally take him down.


Ryu: Seen by Oro as the one with the potential to be trained, generally
considered a legend (see Makoto's statements about him), whomped Alex
easily in Third Strike, only lost the SF3 tournament because he went up
against the godly Oro and even then impressed the old guy, etc etc. This
one should be pretty obvious.


Evil Ryu: A major point of Ryu's SFA3 storyline is that he could follow
the path to warrior perfection without giving in to the Satsu no Hadou.
Even though Evil Ryu was really high up back then, the reason regular Ryu
is on the same tier is due to Ryu's revelations since then. He has now
managed to reach what he could have been had he given in. Generally shown
by Ryu promptly telling Akuma that Satsu no Hadou is not the way in SF3.
Er... yea. It's mostly implied as far as I know, but the implications are
more than enough to place the two into this tier with enough certainty.


Sagat: Although he was too obsessed with revenge and unfocused during
Alpha, by the end of Alpha 3, he has realized the error of his ways and is
now on the path to the true warrior. All statements and storyline
implications from there on are that Sagat is matching Ryu step for step in
progress as they await their glorious battle, so it's really easy to tier
Sagat here. Note that this is Sagat in his most present state, not most
present state since when he was last seen in a game, since unlike other
characters, it's easy to estimate where Sagat is even without seeing him
due to all the statements and implications.


Q: Q is marked as 'hinted' because there's no way to really gauge his
tier, what with him having no interactions with anyone else in the
storyline. But he's robotic and can somehow zip around the world, and
those are typically always powerful, and the effects of his moves sure look
darn powerful. So as a guestimate, he gets to be in this tier. Though
again, it's mostly a guess.

Tier 3

Rose: She's M. Bison lite. She's the only character in Alpha that was
actually able to give Bison a somewhat decent match one-on-one. But... she
still lost, so she's a tier lower. Rose could put up a fight against Alpha
Bison (well, actually, she WON in Alpha 2. Only 'lost' in Alpha 3) while
Chun-Li got owned for free in Alpha 2, and since there really isn't much to
indicate that Chun-Li improved THAT much since Alpha, Rose gets to be a
tier higher. Chun-Li only started being called the strongest woman in the
world since SF2, after Rose was gone.

Ken: Ryu states to Ken in SF3 that he still has the better win record.
But the way he says it indicates that it's still pretty close. Thus Ken
gets this tier. Pretty obvious, I think.

Gen: I think it's hard to decide whether he's in tier 2 or tier 3, but
he's definately up there. Gen was able to fight Akuma to a standstill in
Alpha, after all. He's definately not as good as the further trained Akuma
of SF3, though (Gen of course being most likely unable to further train
because he's most likely dead). I'd be really surprised if he (and thus
even Akuma during that time) was as strong as "I take on tons of people by
myself" SFA3 Bison, so... generally tier 3 for him. On a random note, Gen
uses ki in his attacks with lots of skill. It's just not as obvious as
Akuma (not all ki usage manifests as fireballs or something visual).


Charlie: Charlie is the US Martial Arts champion. Took down Bison in
SFA3, albeit with a little help. What mainly puts him here with certainty
instead of circumstantiality though I believe is how he's better than Guile
(even SF2 Guile). Charlie's ki manipulation is implied to be right up
there with Ryu and other top-notch fighters. He can shoot sonic booms from
any of his limbs, even his feet (something that Guile needs LOTS of
concentration to do. It takes Guile two hands and officially stated all
his focus just to throw one sonic boom). Since Guile, at least based on
what we can think of, comes into the tier below, and Charlie is definately
above Guile, even without the circumstantial evidence, we can generally
place Charlie in this tier.

Urien: Like Gen, I'm personally not sure if he should be in Tier 2 or Tier
3, but he's up there. He's better than Chun-Li (he's only toying with her
in SF3 Third Strike after all) and definately lower than Gill (Gill doesn't
even have to take him seriously and his power compared to Urien's is one of
the many things Urien is jealous of, of course). Anyways, Urien's
abilities include earth and lightning manipulation and an iron body (as
part of his earth manipulation). He's blinded by jealousy, though.


tier 4

Guile: Most likely winner of the SF2 tournament. If you decide to ignore
that, then there's also the way in how he's storyline-wise more interwoven
and more 'important' than most of the other SF2 characters, and they
typically get favored in the storyline power tiers. And I believe he's
meant to be the same power as Chun-Li, but I forget^^; Whatever the case,
he's been training really hard since SFA3, though Charlie in SFA3 was still
most likely better than him (see Charlie in Tier 3 for reasons). He isn't
progressing any more because he gave up fighting after SF2 to be a family
man.

Chun-Li: Weaker than Rose but after Rose died then come SF2, is called the
strongest woman in the world, thus gets to be above the other female
characters in the next tier. That was easy. ...er, going further, Chun-Li
isn't any higher because she quit the ICPO and generally retired from
fighting and training after SF2 (course, after SF3, she trains OTHERS, but
that's another story). Anyways, Capcom has stated that she's the strongest
woman in the world during SF2, so it's not just the opinion of the SF
tournament audience (or whatever) that she is.


Hugo: Actually rather surprising he's up here, but all the facts point to
it. Hugo is officially stated to have withstood the shin shoryuken against
Ryu, which is officially stated to be one of the most powerful moves in the
world, so right there you know he's a really strong guy. He is also
officially stated to have made 'an amazing performance' in the SF3
tournament, which probably means he's generally above the majority of the
SF3 characters (he lost the tournament due to going up against Ryu, of
course. Oh, and to those who think Hugo is all stamina and nothing else, I
highly doubt he would have been stated to have made an amazing performance
if he didn't at least put up a somewhat decent fight against Ryu. So no,
he's not just a big punching bag with lots of endurance). As for who is
better, Hugo or Alex, well, Hugo withstanding the shin shoryuken means that
he probably put up a better fight against Ryu than Alex did. He withstood
an attack that officially could kill someone (Yea, Ryu's style isn't
designed to kill, but that doesn't mean it can't kill due to the sheer
damage alone) compared to Alex, who Ryu didn't even break a sweat fighting
against. That would probably earn him a tier spot higher. Ryu still beat
him somewhat soundly, though, so he's definately not up in Ken's tier.
Note, though, that many of these tiers are at best, educated guesses and
estimates. Maybe Alex made a huge comeback after Ryu was beating him (the
fight wasn't completely finished in Alex's TS ending) but from all
available evidence, this is the best that can be estimated.

Vega: Cammy's love-hate rival is generally better than her, and almost
positively let her win in their fight in SFA3. Therefore, Vega's a tier
higher than Cammy. Easy. He's also a better fighter within Shadaloo than
Balrog, I believe (not sure if it was officially stated. I think it was,
but I forget). He doesn't go any higher because that would place him on
Gen's level, which seems pretty darn silly. Capcom doesn't go around
praising his ability like they do for Charlie. Course... a harder more
definitive proof might just be simply that Rose beats him in A3.

tier 4

Twelve: Again, there's lack of storyline interaction. But Twelve
officially feels no pain, and he can morph into other characters, so he's
probably up there somewhere. He's at least tier 5, because all lab reports
from Gill's organization indicate that he should be superior to Necro in
every way (not that that means it's fact, but it's the best thing to go by
so far. Course, you never know how far 'spirit' could go, I suppose).


Tier 5

Guy and Cody: Hard to tier, IMHO. They can beat Sodom and Rolento,
obviously. They can also beat a whole bunch of the Mad Gear gang, but it's
important to remember that they did not fight through Final Fight alone and
also that it's wholly possible and likely that the SF universe follows the
laws of anime (IE, any generic bad guy is really weak and easy to beat up
by most any semi-important character), thus the fact that they can take out
most of the Mad Gear scrubs isn't a very good gauge, either. Guy, even
though he is a Bushin master, is still equal to Cody even during SFA3,
though, so we at least know they are on the same tier. But storyline-wise,
neither has ever really gone up against any of the really high tier Street
Fighter characters, so this is the best guess we can get to place them
unless more *comparative* info ever comes in. Actually, though, after
getting Juni's official power ratings that she scans in SFA3, I'm thinking
that Sodom, Rolento, Guy, and Cody are probably a lot higher than this.
Probably around Charlie's level during SFA3, actually.

Adon: Strong enough to beat Sagat in SFA2. Sagat may have been unfocused,
but he was still powerful. There aren't many other matches to use to tier
him with hard core certainty, but beating SFA2 Sagat and being the new Muy
Thai Emperor should be enough to give him this tier.


Sakura: She's better than Karin. It's officially stated that her chi
manipulation is equal to Ken's during SFA3. The girl's ridiculously gifted
and able to learn Ryu's moves just by watching him. If Sakura continued
training on and on after SFA3, she could really be something.
Unfortunately, since SFA3 was so incredibly long ago, and Sakura's future
still highly up in the air (highschool is really a bit too early in life to
get that hard a bead on one's future, I think), the tier can really only go
by her last seen position (unlike Sagat, where it's shown that he's still
in the game after SF2 and his determination to stay on level with Ryu is
further emphasized). Anyways, Chun-Li is the strongest woman in the world
so Sakura is below her, regardless. Oh, and judging from SFA3, she can
beat Honda, so she gets to be higher than him.


Balrog: Can kill an elephant with his bare hands. Generally among the top
fighters in Shadaloo (not sure if it was officially stated, though I think
it was... it's implied, at least) and thus higher than the Dolls. Oh, and
judging by SFA3, he beat Birdie. Probably weaker than Vega, so here he
goes. Even if he's an idiot, he's still armed with 'the world's strongest
punches'...

Cammy: She's better than the other Dolls but weaker than Vega. ...wow,
that was easy.


Zangief: A bit hard to tier, but being implied to be Russia's greatest
warrior should account for something. He's better than R. Mika (it seems
he goes easy on her in SFA3 and all), and R. Mika is most likely better
than Dan, so Zangief gets to go here. On a random note, I have no clue
where Haggar (or any other Final Fight exclusive character, really) fits
in, here. Even Cody and Guy, who weren't exclusive to only Final Fight,
are hard to tier. Can't even decide whether or not Haggar is on Zangief's
level because the two never even met in person, after all, so there's no
interaction to use to compare.


T. Hawk: He can beat (and most likely actually has beaten) the Doll
Noembelu. ...another easy one.


Dhalsim: Loses to Ryu (at least, implied by one of Ryu's SF3 win quotes).
A bit hard to tier, but he's been going around doing lots of good things
for the world and has that fire power granted by the gods and such. There
might be more that I should poke Saiki for, but overall, this is a pretty
good guess, I think. He retired from fighting after SF2, by the way.


Alex: Alex is better than all the other SF3 characters (besides heavy
hitters like Ryu and Oro, who he never had to fight) as can be seen by him
winning the SF3 tournament. However, he's still not really that high up
since Ryu beat him VERY easily in Third Strike. Thus he only gets to be a
tier higher than where the other SF3 characters go. He's below Hugo even
though they never fought because Hugo actually put up a fight against Ryu.


Tier 6: The extras

Basically everyone else but Dan and generic Shadaloo soldiers (who are
officially stated to be skilled but weaker than the Dolls) go here. Hard
to tier among them exactly mainly due to lack of existance of factual
*comparative* data for a large majority of them. At any rate, though,
they're definately weaker than everyone else above them. Karin loses to
Sakura, the Dolls lose to Rose, Cammy, and T. Hawk, E. Honda loses to
Sakura, every SF3 character not above this tier loses to Alex or Hugo,
etc. Moving along, good reasons for guestimates from here on IMHO are...


Tier 6: All the characters listed have been stated to beat other skilled
people, even if none of them were actually non-nameless goons. Or...
something to that effect. The twelve Dolls are each stronger than each of
the other 2000 skilled martial artists in Shadaloo (They aren't called
elite for nothing), Rolento and Sodom rise above all generic Mad Gear
members to be bosses, Karin loses to Sakura but still puts up a good fight
so she's probably only a tier lower, Birdie fought hard enough to impress
Bison in order to join Shadaloo (and thus is also probably above the other
2000 skilled martial artists. Eh, he got to be playable and get a name
while they didn't :P)... Necro is implied due to all his genetically
enhanced abilities that probably give him an edge, and Dudley beat lots of
guys in his boxing career to earn money to buy his dads' things back.



Tier 7: 'Grown-up' nobodies. Not much else to say. Well, E. Honda rose
to become a good sumo wrestler at least, but not sure if that says enough
for him. He beat Sodom in SFA2, but that's because Sodom was fighting as a
sumo wrestler and thus not using his primary fighting style, so...


Tier 8: 'Teeny-bopper' nobodies. Poor Yun, Yang, Makoto, and Elena just
don't have enough official statements implying their good abilities to go
higher. Er... no offense to these characters with the 'nobody' remarks, of
course.

Tier 9: Characters that Capcom of Japan just doesn't seem to like :P Well,
okay, Dan's probably weak on purpose.

Tier 10: Judging by where Capcom seems to be going with Sean, it seems
like he really IS weaker than Dan at this point. It's like a joke in
itself, almost. Almost like when Sean says "Hey, I'm not Dan!", he's
right. He's not Dan. He's worse! Even Dan doesn't get his ass kicked
THAT often in the official storyline. Sure, it was to Ryu and Ken, but the
only time Dan got his ass whupped as an ending joke was to cyber Akuma in a
VS game. Sean gets portrayed as getting kicked around a lot more than Dan,
even, so...


About the Adon and sagat Fight

From the plot guide

He feels that Sagat no longer deserves
the title of Emperor, and goes out to defeat Sagat. When he finds Sagat,
Sagat himself is filled with rage at how Ryu defeated him, much more than
Adon. Adon challenges him, and Sagat was too enraged to fight well, so
Adon defeated him and became the new Emperor of Muay Thai. It wasn't
without cost, though. Adon had to go to the hospital and stay there for
months due to his injuries from the battle.

Originally posted by unrealman
People who can beat kung lao

king of Fighters

1 Andy Bogard

2 Angel

3 Benimaru Nikkaido

4 Billy Kane

5 Blue-Mary Ryan

6 Chang Koehan

7 Chin Gentsai

8 Chizuru Kagura

9 Chris

10 Clark Steel

11 Eiji Kisaragi

12 Gato

13 Geese Howard

14 Goenitz

15 Heavy D!

16 Heidern

17 Igniz

18 Iori Yagami

19 Jhun Hoon

20 Joe Higashi

21 Kim Kaphwan

22 King

23 Krizalid

24 Kula Diamond

25 Kyo Kusanagi

26 Leona Heidern

27 Lin

28 Mature

29 Mukai

30 Orochi

31 Ralf Jones

32 Rugal Bernstein

33 Ryo Sakazaki

34 Ryuji Yamazaki

35 Saisyu Kusanagi

36 Shermie

37 Takuma Sakazaki

38 Terry Bogard

39 Tizoc

40 Vanessa

41 Vice

42 Wolfgang Krauser

43 Yashiro Nanakase

44 Zero


Guilty Gear

45 Anji Mito

46 Axl Low

47 Baiken

48 Chipp Zanuff

49 Dizzy

50 Dr Faust Baldhead

51 Johnny

52 Justice

53 Kliff Undersn

54 Kuradoberi Jam

55 Ky Kiske

56 Millia Rage

57 Potemkin

58 Slayer

59 Sol Badguy

60 Testament

61 Venom

62 Zato-One

Darkstalkers

63 Anakaris

64 Bishamon

65 Demitri Maximoff

66 Donovan Baine

67 Jedah Doma

68 Jon Talbain

69 Lord Raptor

70 Morrigan Aensland

71 Pyron

72 Victor von Gerdenheim

73 Belial

Soul Calibur

74 Nightmare

Samurai Shodown

75 Basara Kubikiri

76 Genjuro Kibagami

77 Hanzo Hattori

78 Haohmaru

79 Jubei Yagyu

80 Kazuki Kazama

81 Zankuro Minazuki

Tekken

82 Armor King

83 Bryan Fury

84 Devil Jin

85 Feng Wei

86 Heihachi Mishima

87 Jack

88 Jinpachi Mishima

89 Kazuya Mishima

90 Marshall Law

91 Ogre

92 Paul Phoenix

93 Steve Fox


Street Fighter

94 Adon

95 Akuma

96 Alex

97 Balrog

98 Cammy White

99 Charlie

100 Chun-Li

101 Cody

102 Dudley

103 Fei-Long

104 Gen

105 Gill

106 Guile

107 Guy

108 Hugo

109 Ibuki

110 Juli

111 Juni

112 Ken Masters

113 M. Bison

114 Makoto

115 Oro

116 Rose

117 Ryu

118 Sagat

119 Sakura Kasugano

120 Thunder Hawk

121 Twelve

122 Urien

123 Vega

124 Yang

125 Yun

126 Zangief

Marvel

127 Blackheart

128 Cable

129 Colossus

130 Cyclops

131 Dr Doom

132 Gambit

133 Hulk

134 Iceman

135 Iron Man

136 Juggernaut

137 Magneto

138 Marrow

139 Omega Red

140 Psylocke

141 Rogue

142 Sabretooth

143 Sentinel

144 Shuma Gorath

145 Silver Samurai

146 Spider-Man

147 Storm

148 Thanos

149 Venom

150 Wolverine Good list. You left out Rock Howard(MOTW) Kilik & a few others from SC. He'd beat Sakura, T.Hawk, Zangief, Tizoc, Ralph, Heavy D, Alex, Clark and possibly Terry Bogard

Originally posted by Joker1237
now I sure the low rank fighters like Adon can not beat Lao. That is pushing it right there. Sagat got whooped by adon, and sagat can give ryu a go or three.

Saget was NOT focus when he lost though.

He was relly out of it when he lost to Ryu, and was thinking of getting even with Ryu, and not thinking of the fight at hand.

He got careless and thus lost. He was ALL rage, and if a person is all rage they are bound to lose. I belive Lao could beat Saget if Saget was in that mind set.

But Saget learn the error of his ways, and is trying to follow the code of the warror in hopes of rematching Ryu. Saget is over the rage thing now.

And how can Sakura beat Kung Lao???? I dont see it.

Ever get caught in that annoying grapple?

Originally posted by unrealman
tier 4

Twelve: Again, there's lack of storyline interaction. But Twelve
officially feels no pain, and he can morph into other characters, so he's
probably up there somewhere. He's at least tier 5, because all lab reports
from Gill's organization indicate that he should be superior to Necro in
every way (not that that means it's fact, but it's the best thing to go by
so far. Course, you never know how far 'spirit' could go, I suppose).


Tier 5

Guy and Cody: Hard to tier, IMHO. They can beat Sodom and Rolento,
obviously. They can also beat a whole bunch of the Mad Gear gang, but it's
important to remember that they did not fight through Final Fight alone and
also that it's wholly possible and likely that the SF universe follows the
laws of anime (IE, any generic bad guy is really weak and easy to beat up
by most any semi-important character), thus the fact that they can take out
most of the Mad Gear scrubs isn't a very good gauge, either. Guy, even
though he is a Bushin master, is still equal to Cody even during SFA3,
though, so we at least know they are on the same tier. But storyline-wise,
neither has ever really gone up against any of the really high tier Street
Fighter characters, so this is the best guess we can get to place them
unless more *comparative* info ever comes in. Actually, though, after
getting Juni's official power ratings that she scans in SFA3, I'm thinking
that Sodom, Rolento, Guy, and Cody are probably a lot higher than this.
Probably around Charlie's level during SFA3, actually.

Adon: Strong enough to beat Sagat in SFA2. Sagat may have been unfocused,
but he was still powerful. There aren't many other matches to use to tier
him with hard core certainty, but beating SFA2 Sagat and being the new Muy
Thai Emperor should be enough to give him this tier.


Sakura: She's better than Karin. It's officially stated that her chi
manipulation is equal to Ken's during SFA3. The girl's ridiculously gifted
and able to learn Ryu's moves just by watching him. If Sakura continued
training on and on after SFA3, she could really be something.
Unfortunately, since SFA3 was so incredibly long ago, and Sakura's future
still highly up in the air (highschool is really a bit too early in life to
get that hard a bead on one's future, I think), the tier can really only go
by her last seen position (unlike Sagat, where it's shown that he's still
in the game after SF2 and his determination to stay on level with Ryu is
further emphasized). Anyways, Chun-Li is the strongest woman in the world
so Sakura is below her, regardless. Oh, and judging from SFA3, she can
beat Honda, so she gets to be higher than him.


Balrog: Can kill an elephant with his bare hands. Generally among the top
fighters in Shadaloo (not sure if it was officially stated, though I think
it was... it's implied, at least) and thus higher than the Dolls. Oh, and
judging by SFA3, he beat Birdie. Probably weaker than Vega, so here he
goes. Even if he's an idiot, he's still armed with 'the world's strongest
punches'...

Cammy: She's better than the other Dolls but weaker than Vega. ...wow,
that was easy.


Zangief: A bit hard to tier, but being implied to be Russia's greatest
warrior should account for something. He's better than R. Mika (it seems
he goes easy on her in SFA3 and all), and R. Mika is most likely better
than Dan, so Zangief gets to go here. On a random note, I have no clue
where Haggar (or any other Final Fight exclusive character, really) fits
in, here. Even Cody and Guy, who weren't exclusive to only Final Fight,
are hard to tier. Can't even decide whether or not Haggar is on Zangief's
level because the two never even met in person, after all, so there's no
interaction to use to compare.


T. Hawk: He can beat (and most likely actually has beaten) the Doll
Noembelu. ...another easy one.


Dhalsim: Loses to Ryu (at least, implied by one of Ryu's SF3 win quotes).
A bit hard to tier, but he's been going around doing lots of good things
for the world and has that fire power granted by the gods and such. There
might be more that I should poke Saiki for, but overall, this is a pretty
good guess, I think. He retired from fighting after SF2, by the way.


Alex: Alex is better than all the other SF3 characters (besides heavy
hitters like Ryu and Oro, who he never had to fight) as can be seen by him
winning the SF3 tournament. However, he's still not really that high up
since Ryu beat him VERY easily in Third Strike. Thus he only gets to be a
tier higher than where the other SF3 characters go. He's below Hugo even
though they never fought because Hugo actually put up a fight against Ryu.


Tier 6: The extras

Basically everyone else but Dan and generic Shadaloo soldiers (who are
officially stated to be skilled but weaker than the Dolls) go here. Hard
to tier among them exactly mainly due to lack of existance of factual
*comparative* data for a large majority of them. At any rate, though,
they're definately weaker than everyone else above them. Karin loses to
Sakura, the Dolls lose to Rose, Cammy, and T. Hawk, E. Honda loses to
Sakura, every SF3 character not above this tier loses to Alex or Hugo,
etc. Moving along, good reasons for guestimates from here on IMHO are...


Tier 6: All the characters listed have been stated to beat other skilled
people, even if none of them were actually non-nameless goons. Or...
something to that effect. The twelve Dolls are each stronger than each of
the other 2000 skilled martial artists in Shadaloo (They aren't called
elite for nothing), Rolento and Sodom rise above all generic Mad Gear
members to be bosses, Karin loses to Sakura but still puts up a good fight
so she's probably only a tier lower, Birdie fought hard enough to impress
Bison in order to join Shadaloo (and thus is also probably above the other
2000 skilled martial artists. Eh, he got to be playable and get a name
while they didn't :P)... Necro is implied due to all his genetically
enhanced abilities that probably give him an edge, and Dudley beat lots of
guys in his boxing career to earn money to buy his dads' things back.



Tier 7: 'Grown-up' nobodies. Not much else to say. Well, E. Honda rose
to become a good sumo wrestler at least, but not sure if that says enough
for him. He beat Sodom in SFA2, but that's because Sodom was fighting as a
sumo wrestler and thus not using his primary fighting style, so...


Tier 8: 'Teeny-bopper' nobodies. Poor Yun, Yang, Makoto, and Elena just
don't have enough official statements implying their good abilities to go
higher. Er... no offense to these characters with the 'nobody' remarks, of
course.

Tier 9: Characters that Capcom of Japan just doesn't seem to like :P Well,
okay, Dan's probably weak on purpose.

Tier 10: Judging by where Capcom seems to be going with Sean, it seems
like he really IS weaker than Dan at this point. It's like a joke in
itself, almost. Almost like when Sean says "Hey, I'm not Dan!", he's
right. He's not Dan. He's worse! Even Dan doesn't get his ass kicked
THAT often in the official storyline. Sure, it was to Ryu and Ken, but the
only time Dan got his ass whupped as an ending joke was to cyber Akuma in a
VS game. Sean gets portrayed as getting kicked around a lot more than Dan,
even, so...


About the Adon and sagat Fight

From the plot guide

He feels that Sagat no longer deserves
the title of Emperor, and goes out to defeat Sagat. When he finds Sagat,
Sagat himself is filled with rage at how Ryu defeated him, much more than
Adon. Adon challenges him, and Sagat was too enraged to fight well, so
Adon defeated him and became the new Emperor of Muay Thai. It wasn't
without cost, though. Adon had to go to the hospital and stay there for
months due to his injuries from the battle.


I do agree that Cody and Guy should be up there in tier three with Charlie and the others. Cody and Guy have gotten alot stronger during the time too, which is a good reason why they should be up there. Cody is addicted to fighting and fights day and night because of the streak in him to fight. Cody also loves to start fights. Cody continues to fight all the time which is why he should be in tier three. Cody also has the strength to break through a 50 cm wall. He's also a fifth degree black belt and is very good at using knives. Guy has gotten alot stronger too. He went to Japan to train and learn more of the ways of being a Bushin Ninja. He was even able to learn some NEW MOVES during his journey. He defeated his Master to become the NEW 39th Bushin Master. Guy also has the Bushin Musou Rage which is just as Powerful as the Raging Demon. If he really used it on M.Bison, it will be over for him. I do agree that they both didn't fight the Mad Gear Gang alone, but they both each defeated the bosses by themselves, like Cody was the one that knocked Belger out of the window and Guy is the one that defeated Sodom. Cody also learned some NEW MOVES as well. I'm just giving out details of why these two should be in Tier 3. Cody and Guy are also one of my Favorite Street Fighter and Final Fight Characters.