Rocky 6 (The Official Thread)

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vader519
I got this from comingsoon.net. Now I am a big Rocky fan, but I do not want to see another one. I still will see it.

Sylvester Stallone will direct and reprise his role as Rocky Balbao in the sixth installment of the boxing franchise, reports Production Weekly.

In the film, lonely and retired boxer Rocky Balboa comes out of retirement, intending to fight a few low-profile local fights just to keep his hand in. But when he's approached to fight a match with reigning heavyweight champ Mason "The Line" Dixon, Rocky's modest little comeback becomes the center of a media firestorm.

Rocky 6 is scheduled to begin filming early December in Los Angeles.

forumcrew
mason the line dixon... thats a bad start

Cinemaddiction
Well, I call BS because "Rambo" is in pre-production, and there's no way he can do both movies at the same time.

The premise is ****ing hilarious. A 60 year old man playing the role of a comeback boxer. Sylvester Stallone either has no shame, or has no money. Maybe even a little of both.

Cringe
This is going to be so horrible I mean to we really need a Rocky 600,000,258,246,125,486,154,264,158,123,125,123,54
3,213,131,315,113,654,534,135,451,487,654,584,153,
451,453,121,843,032,454,153,480?

forumcrew
it did sound fake.. but coming soon is generaly very reliable.. and i had heard of rocky 6 quite a while back.. so i dunno

TwisterGameX
They messed it up with rocky 5 so now they make a 6

Cinemaddiction
5 was 15 years ago, and trust me, people forgot about that one pretty quick.

Cringe
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
They messed it up with rocky 5 so now they make a 6

Correction they messed up with 3,4, AND 5 smile

Cinemaddiction
There was nothing wrong with "Rocky IV". It's considered the best of the entire franchise by most.

T.M
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
There was nothing wrong with "Rocky IV". It's considered the best of the entire franchise by most.

indeed. 'IV' is my personal favourite of the franchise.

BackFire
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
There was nothing wrong with "Rocky IV". It's considered the best of the entire franchise by most.


Not by me, the original is the best IMO. Won oscars and all that jazz.

olchik
That's so cool! I like this movie and especially Stallonne. He is hot!

bakerboy
A really bad idea. It ended in part two or three. the rest of the sequels were pretty bad. To do another one is crazy and non sense.

Cringe
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
There was nothing wrong with "Rocky IV". It's considered the best of the entire franchise by most.

Yeah,I take that back.I did like it alot.

remy_17
Stallone is too old! I dont understand the meaning of this next one. At first I heard that it was going to be his son that was becoming a Boxer and he trained him. But Mason Dixon?? more power to him.

Cinemaddiction
Originally posted by BackFire
Not by me, the original is the best IMO. Won oscars and all that jazz.

Considering the competition for the 1977 Oscars, it's probably the lesser of all the evils;

- All the President's Men
- Bound for Glory
- Network
- Taxi Driver
- Rocky

Revernd Maynard
Originally posted by vader519
I got this from comingsoon.net. Now I am a big Rocky fan, but I do not want to see another one. I still will see it.

Sylvester Stallone will direct and reprise his role as Rocky Balbao in the sixth installment of the boxing franchise, reports Production Weekly.

In the film, lonely and retired boxer Rocky Balboa comes out of retirement, intending to fight a few low-profile local fights just to keep his hand in. But when he's approached to fight a match with reigning heavyweight champ Mason "The Line" Dixon, Rocky's modest little comeback becomes the center of a media firestorm.

Rocky 6 is scheduled to begin filming early December in Los Angeles. that would be a movie i wouldn't see

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Cringe
Correction they messed up with 3,4, AND 5 smile

Naw they didnt mess up with 3.Rocky 1 through 3 were amazing.Should have ended it all with a trilogy though because 4 and 5 indeed were horrible. Stallone just HAD to go and get greedy though and then no longer cared about quality scripts and only cared about the money. mad rocky 6? god help us all and yeah its sad but true,there has been talk in several magazines with interviews with Stallone that he is indeed making part 6. laughing

Mr Parker
Originally posted by BackFire
Not by me, the original is the best IMO. Won oscars and all that jazz.

definetely.The original is easily regarded as the best Rocky by far.and cringe,dont take it back,you were correct the first time,rocky 4 was indeed horrible.Just take it back about rocky 3 being messed up. big grin

Mainstream
I loved Rocky 4..."If he dies..he dies"

BackFire
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Considering the competition for the 1977 Oscars, it's probably the lesser of all the evils;

- All the President's Men
- Bound for Glory
- Network
- Taxi Driver
- Rocky


Not really, beating out Taxi Driver is quite a feet, considering the overwheling awesomeness of that movie.

Murray
I can't stand Rocky.
I have no intention in seeing it.

Cinemaddiction
Originally posted by BackFire
Not really, beating out Taxi Driver is quite a feet, considering the overwheling awesomeness of that movie.

Not that Oscars matter, but "Rocky" winning was pure luck. John Avildsen has done NOTHING since then, aside from "The Karate Kid", where he more or less rehashed the same storyline as Rocky Balboa's, and made it a karate flick. Of the competition, I guess "Rocky" deserved to win. Scorsese hadn't made a name for himself yet, anyway.

Personally, I think both Scorsese, and "Taxi Driver" are incredibly overrated. It's just slow, dated, and the most memorable part of the movie is the end.

BackFire
It being nothing but luck is no more then a baseless opinion. Perhaps it won because it was a good film? Also, your claim that most people like 4 best seems unfounded. Take a look at IMDB, the first one has a significantly higher score then 4, and that score is based off of the votes of regular folk.

I find Taxi Driver incredibly intriguing, important and enduring, even by todays standards. The climax is just that, the climax of an incredibly deep story about the alienation of a mans mind, and his slow journy into justifiable madness, it was relevent to society then, and it's relevent to society now. The subjsect matter is so global and consistant that the film will never truley be dated because it will always be relevent to society and to the history and world of cinema. But, it's not a film for everyone.

Mandorallen
Rocky is the coolest, I've seen those movies more times than any other movie....exept for reservoir dogs.

they should have stopped at 4. IMO. drago was pure badass. The rocky series is an amazing series, my dad says everytime he went to the movies to see it, the audience stood up and started cheering, I don't care about you, but I am actually hoping for rocky 6, I finally want to stand up and cheer.

Cinemaddiction
Originally posted by BackFire
It being nothing but luck is no more then a baseless opinion. Perhaps it won because it was a good film? Also, your claim that most people like 4 best seems unfounded. Take a look at IMDB, the first one has a significantly higher score then 4, and that score is based off of the votes of regular folk.

I find Taxi Driver incredibly intriguing, important and enduring, even by todays standards. The climax is just that, the climax of an incredibly deep story about the alienation of a mans mind, and his slow journy into justifiable madness, it was relevent to society then, and it's relevent to society now. The subjsect matter is so global and consistant that the film will never truley be dated because it will always be relevent to society and to the history and world of cinema. But, it's not a film for everyone.

I never said "Rocky" was a bad movie. If we're talking Oscars, and the movies competition, it was lucky to have won against "Taxi Driver" in 1976. The Vietnam War had just ended, Scorsese had just released "Mean Streets", and Avildsen had never directed any other major motion picture. Stallone didn't even win for Best Actor, and while it won "Best Director", it's only other win was for EDITING?

IMDB is not something ANYONE should use to base ANYTHING on. If that's the case, you're arguement is unfair, because 26,000 people voted on "Rocky", whereas 12,500 voted on "Rocky 4"! There's no comparison! 4 had the best training scenes, the best villain, the death of Apollo Creed, and it was the most politcally charged movie of the decade! It was a cinematic allegory to the end of the Cold War, the little old USA taking down the Ruskie. I'm not the only one to hold that opinion either. I'm not stupid enough to make such a bold proclamation without it being evidenced.

As for "Taxi Driver", I'll agree it's important, but just because it's important doesn't necessarily mean that other films, before and after it, shared the same message and were more effective. There are other ways of getting across some psychos mental deterioration and disapproval of society and the government other than self-alienation and taking the law into his own hands. It's a dated movie, and I just don't think as many people can relate to it today as they can with something like "American Psycho".

I just think it's overrated, as are most Scorsese films. It's all politics in that film industry, Academy Awards, especially. But if Scorsese, after what, 30 years, has YET to win an Oscar, and is revered as the greatest living director today, then my opinion has GOT to be shared by someone of some relivance. Either he's not all he's cracked up to be, or he did something to piss a lot of people off.

BackFire
Why is IMDB not something to base the popularity of a movie on? You said that Rocky 4 is most peoples favorite, IMDB, which has ratings based on peoples feelings towards a movie, suggests otherwise.

24,000 vs 12,000, it doesn't really matter, you think if rocky 4 got another 12,000 votes that it would raise it's rating to that of the original? Doubtful.

Rocky 4 maybe a fine movie, too be honest I don't remember much about it. My objection was to the claim of Rocky 4 being the most popular and the favorite in the series, which I've seen no evidence for.

Not winning the oscar doesn't mean a thing. Kubrick, who is considered by a significant amount to be one of the very best directors ever, never got an oscar either. Doesn't change his undeniable importance to cinema.

I really don't see how American Psycho can be related to by anyone, really. People can relate to travis bickle because, at one point or another, we've all felt isolated, alone and disgusted with the world around us. The film was a study in what could happen if those feelings, that everyone feels at some point or another, stayed with us consistantly. Also Travis Bickle was at one point a semi normal person, in teh beginning of the movie, he seems normal, and his psychosis slowly changes into what allows him to take justice into his own hands. It's a brilliant study, and it's relevance will never die. American Psycho, while being an awesome movie, really can't be identified with because the lead character is, from beginning to end, a blatant psycho, and nothing more. There is no slow journey into madness, at the start of the movie, we're already deep into the bowls of insanity.

Mandorallen
I agree with cine, you cant really use other peoples, OR sites opinions. you hafto see it yourself to judge it.


for instance, American beauty beat out SPR for best picture.....

WTF?!?!

WindDancer
I think Rocky VI should have a four man elimination battle. The main event should be:

Rocky
Clubber Lang
Drago
Tommy Gun

All 4 men fighting each other and the winner gets the title belt.....err...maybe not...that would be a rip off the WWE.

Mandorallen
Originally posted by WindDancer
I think Rocky VI should have a four man elimination battle. The main event should be:

Rocky
Clubber Lang
Drago
Tommy Gun

All 4 men fighting each other and the winner gets the title belt.....err...maybe not...that would be a rip off the WWE.


exactly, that's why you need to add thinder-lips.

Cinemaddiction
Originally posted by BackFire
Why is IMDB not something to base the popularity of a movie on? You said that Rocky 4 is most peoples favorite, IMDB, which has ratings based on peoples feelings towards a movie, suggests otherwise.

24,000 vs 12,000, it doesn't really matter, you think if rocky 4 got another 12,000 votes that it would raise it's rating to that of the original? Doubtful.

Rocky 4 maybe a fine movie, too be honest I don't remember much about it. My objection was to the claim of Rocky 4 being the most popular and the favorite in the series, which I've seen no evidence for.

Not winning the oscar doesn't mean a thing. Kubrick, who is considered by a significant amount to be one of the very best directors ever, never got an oscar either. Doesn't change his undeniable importance to cinema.

I really don't see how American Psycho can be related to by anyone, really. People can relate to travis bickle because, at one point or another, we've all felt isolated, alone and disgusted with the world around us. The film was a study in what could happen if those feelings, that everyone feels at some point or another, stayed with us consistantly. Also Travis Bickle was at one point a semi normal person, in teh beginning of the movie, he seems normal, and his psychosis slowly changes into what allows him to take justice into his own hands. It's a brilliant study, and it's relevance will never die. American Psycho, while being an awesome movie, really can't be identified with because the lead character is, from beginning to end, a blatant psycho, and nothing more. There is no slow journey into madness, at the start of the movie, we're already deep into the bowls of insanity.

I'm just saying that IMDB is like any other site that hosts fans opinions. Weither it's as important as KMC is irrelevant, because we're all the same, and opinions are equally as valuable. The thing is, Rocky 4 was voted on by half as many people, and not everyone that has even seen either movie bothers voting. It's not representitive of any collective. I've just seen overwhelmingly positive opinions of 4, given the 80's were such an important time for politcally driven movies, and "Rocky 4" actually had an intense story. The others were merely for entertainment and didn't have much to "say".

The whole Oscar deal is beyond our control. In that, I was trying to get across that yeah, Scorsese's important, as is Kubrick, but the best movie at the time may win, i.e. "Rocky", and it may come down to a popularity contest. Given the competition, I think "Rocky" was the best of a seemingly bland selection.

As for the personal relevance of "American Psycho", it's that there are probably more people with closeted fascinations that war vets angry with their surroundings nowadays. That's why so many of todays serial killers are unassuming. Nobody can tell, and we'd never suspect a rich, young guy. I just think that translates better TODAY, and will carry over more than "Taxi Driver", which while powerful, is still cemented in a 70's movement.

BackFire
On topic of this film, I've seen no evidence that rocky 6 is anywhere close to being made. As CA said, Rambo 4 is in preproduction right now, which would suggest that Rocky 6 will come after that, if at all.

BackFire
Well, the war vet thing is more or less irrelevent to the feelings people may have, I still think, now more then ever, people feel isolated, and often alone, and are disgusted with the events that take place around them and at times wish they could do something about them. You don't have to be a war vet to feel this way, nor relate to Travis Bickle.

Also, that's an interesting viewpoint on American Psycho, though when I say relate, I was personally referring to the character themselves and what they're feeling, rather then the theme of the film. While people are undoubtably fascinated with serial killers and such, I found that it was hard to really identifiy with Bates (or whatever his name was) in American Psycho. Simply because from the start, he was blatantly insane and showed no real signs of humanity at all through out the movie, where as Travis Bickle did, and was a much more realistic portrait of what could happen if someone lets their isolationand disgust take over.

Again, IMDB was referenced because it shows the popularity of movies. Nothing more.

Cringe
I'm really sorry for saying Rocky 4 was bad.I loved it and actually do think it was the best in the series.I dont know what came over me no expression

stunna1773
rocky's the best i could live on those movies

The Highlord
I also like Rocky4 alot just as much as Rocky 1 and 2, all depends on my moob acturly smile

Cringe
Yeah.I like the fight scene at the end.Its was really intense and full of spirit and determination.

Cinemaddiction
Originally posted by Cringe
I'm really sorry for saying Rocky 4 was bad.I loved it and actually do think it was the best in the series.I dont know what came over me no expression

Well, now you'll need to just ex-communicate yourself from the rest of the MDF. You've brought shame and dishonor to the "Rocky" brethren.

Cringe
Shame to the rocky nerds.How exciting! one eye

Lord Shadow Z
I've seen them all and only Rocky IV stands out to me. I can't remember 1,2 or 3 very well because nothing stands out in them movies. Cinemaaddiction is right when he says there is better emotionally-charged content in Rocky IV.

Rocky V was bad but its a plausible storyline and for that I still watch it but the idea of a sixth is just silly.

Stallone! you are not a boxer or a Vietnam vet. GET OVER IT!

Mandorallen
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Well, now you'll need to just ex-communicate yourself from the rest of the MDF. You've brought shame and dishonor to the "Rocky" brethren.


laughing

you are now banned from the tribe cringe. BE GONE!

Discos
meh, not another one. I heard this rumour of rocky 6 a while back but hoped nothing was there to back it up -indeed 5 was a huge mistake.

IV - jesus, that was the greatest ever, we got to watch the whole movie twice in Modern Studies when we were studying the cold war.

Anyways, if i gave a hoot about the 6th film I might do some research, since I dont. I will let all you under-age kids to the work smile

bakerboy
Rocky is a very good movie, but please, both taxi driver and all the president men are masterpieces. Also, the most of scorsese's movies are masterpieces, movies like mean streets, ranging bull, goodfellas, the age of innocence, casino or the same taxi driver.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Cringe
I'm really sorry for saying Rocky 4 was bad.I loved it and actually do think it was the best in the series.I dont know what came over me no expression

Dude you were right the first time,DONT be sorry.Rocky 4 was horribly written just like 5 was.stick to your guns on what you said the first time .

Cinemaddiction
Originally posted by bakerboy
Rocky is a very good movie, but please, both taxi driver and all the president men are masterpieces. Also, the most of scorsese's movies are masterpieces, movies like mean streets, ranging bull, goodfellas, the age of innocence, casino or the same taxi driver.

It s all opinion. Problem is, you present it as fact. There are plenty of people that will vouch that Scorsese's obsession with his subjects end up flawing his movies. "Raging Bull" is incredibly overrated. Mind you, overrated doesn't mean it's not a decent film, but people tend to have a hard on for Scorsese and think he's infalliable, when he isn't.

mmmmoley
Rocky 5 wasn't all that impressive - so i can't see Rocky 6 doing any better! Rocky coming out of retirement 2 kick ass... AGAIN! Naaa, can't see this being @ the top of Box-Office when its released! Shame really - 1-3 were good, cant really remember 4 - sure that was OK!

Mandorallen
Originally posted by mmmmoley
AGAIN! Naaa, can't see this being @ the top of Box-Office

I assure you it will be making money at the box office, and lots of it.



just because it is a sequel.

Deano
rocky 1 to 5 was good. shud stop there really

Mr Parker
Originally posted by mmmmoley
Rocky 5 wasn't all that impressive - so i can't see Rocky 6 doing any better! Rocky coming out of retirement 2 kick ass... AGAIN! Naaa, can't see this being @ the top of Box-Office when its released! Shame really - 1-3 were good, cant really remember 4 - sure that was OK!

your lucky that you dont remember 4,that was the start of bad rocky films to come,so i dont see rocky 6 changing any of that .yeah one through 3 were great,should have ended there.Yeah I cant see him coming out of retirement 2 kick ass either AGAIN or being at the top of the box office.

Cringe
Originally posted by Mr Parker
Dude you were right the first time,DONT be sorry.Rocky 4 was horribly written just like 5 was.stick to your guns on what you said the first time .

Shoo fly dont bother me no expression

AdventChild
Originally posted by Cringe
This is going to be so horrible I mean to we really need a Rocky 600,000,258,246,125,486,154,264,158,123,125,123,54
3,213,131,315,113,654,534,135,451,487,654,584,153,
451,453,121,843,032,454,153,480?
You are so right.The Rocky movies started its downfall starting with Rocky 4.0ne through three were great but four sucked big time.I hate that one worse than 5.Unlike the first three,it was not at all believeable.Why the hell did Stallone have to go and make a rocky 4 and 5? The movies should have ended after three. i'm soooo mad I cant believe they are making a rocky 6 after rocky 4 and 5 were so stupid. when's it going to end i mean seriously..... this is getting old......stallone is old! geez! Rocky needs to just give it a rest...IMO BTW big grin

Cringe
I think it should've stopped after 2.The rest where just not needed.But I did enjoy rocky 4 embarrasment

bakerboy
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
It s all opinion. Problem is, you present it as fact. There are plenty of people that will vouch that Scorsese's obsession with his subjects end up flawing his movies. "Raging Bull" is incredibly overrated. Mind you, overrated doesn't mean it's not a decent film, but people tend to have a hard on for Scorsese and think he's infalliable, when he isn't.

All the people present their opinions like facts and defend their arguments. Thats is called discussion. But im sure that more plenty of people loves the scorseses movies and his matters and obsesions. I dont think that ranging bull or taxi driver or goodfellas or some of the others are overrated, i think that they are some of the best movies in american cinema in the last 30 years. Classics. I think that scorsese is one of the best and more inteligent filmakers in hollywood in the last 30 years, surely that he has his flaws and his flawed films, but the bigest part of his career is impressing and vey important and influential in the modern cinema.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by bakerboy
All the people present their opinions like facts and defend their arguments. Thats is called discussion. But im sure that more plenty of people loves the scorseses movies and his matters and obsesions. I dont think that ranging bull or taxi driver or goodfellas or some of the others are overrated, i think that they are some of the best movies in american cinema in the last 30 years. Classics. I think that scorsese is one of the best and more inteligent filmakers in hollywood in the last 30 years, surely that he has his flaws and his flawed films, but the bigest part of his career is impressing and vey important and influential in the modern cinema.

well said bakerboy.All the people present their opinions as facts.I can recall someone here saying that Rocky 4 is regarded as the best rocky movie when Backfire brilliantly disproved that wild theory.Everybody knows that the original Rocky is indeed regarded by most as the best . big grin yeah to say raging bull,tazi driver or goodfellas is over rated is insane since like you said,they are definetly regarded as classics in the cinema for the last 30 years.

FirstBlood 4EVA
I'll go and watch it but i think that it is a huge gamble, with Rambo 4 being the one i would put my money on....

But funnier things have happened...

I liked rambo 1,2,3,4 but 5 was a shame.......

Bring on Rambo 4 if you ask me!

bakerboy
Yeah, mr parker. I dont understand how on hell a person could say that rocky 4 was the best rocky movie when was purely crap. More a video clip that a movie. The best rocky movie was the first , no doubt. Bes story, best script, best performances, best direction, etc.

bakerboy
And i loved that the first rocky was a little movie, made with few money and showing typical and corrient people and their lifes. A very realistic movie. Until that , the sequels tried to show rocky like a kind of super hero, like the 4 one. And that doesnt work in any way.

Mandorallen
Originally posted by bakerboy
Yeah, mr parker. I dont understand how on hell a person could say that rocky 4 was the best rocky movie when was purely crap. More a video clip that a movie. The best rocky movie was the first , no doubt. Bes story, best script, best performances, best direction, etc.

ok, we all know that the first one was definatley the best. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE 4th ONE WASN'T GOOD! The 4th one was good, in my opinion. IT HAD CONFLICT, Ivan drago killed Rocky's best friend, Apollo Creed, and He wanted to avenge his death, because rocky knew 2 things: A. He was the one who was supposed to fight him, and B. That he could have saved Apollo by throwing in the towel.
Look, I agree the first one was best, but the others were still good, INCLUDING 5! We are just putting them in comparison with the other rocky movies, Therefore making it look shitty.
My point it being that jedge the film alone, not in comparison with others like it.

Cinemaddiction
Originally posted by bakerboy
Yeah, mr parker. I dont understand how on hell a person could say that rocky 4 was the best rocky movie when was purely crap. More a video clip that a movie. The best rocky movie was the first , no doubt. Bes story, best script, best performances, best direction, etc.

Because it's an opinion, and I've always made it a point to claim it's an opinion. You tend to present your opinion as a fact. As always......

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Mandorallen
ok, we all know that the first one was definatley the best. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE 4th ONE WASN'T GOOD! The 4th one was good, in my opinion. IT HAD CONFLICT, Ivan drago killed Rocky's best friend, Apollo Creed, and He wanted to avenge his death, because rocky knew 2 things: A. He was the one who was supposed to fight him, and B. That he could have saved Apollo by throwing in the towel.
Look, I agree the first one was best, but the others were still good, INCLUDING 5! We are just putting them in comparison with the other rocky movies, Therefore making it look shitty.
My point it being that jedge the film alone, not in comparison with others like it.


Yeah you, me and everybody else knows Rocky 1 is considered the best by most but one particular poster on here has a wild theory that rocky 4 is considered the best by most when as backfire brilliantly proved to the contrary,there is no evidence of that whatsoever and proved that rocky one is considered the best by most.There also seems to be some credible people out there who agree with me that rocky 4 was horribly unrealistic.That was my major beef with rocky 4 was was unlike the first three films,it was horribly unrealistic. First off,when Drago said If he dies he dies,saying that without any remorse whatsoever,there would have been at least some people rushing the ring ready to gang up on him and beat the crap out of him and make sure he did not leave alive.There a lot of unrational boxing fanatics out there in the world and some of them would not have stood for that.

2nd,that was so unbelievable and not at all realistic when Rocky started winning the fight against drago how the crowd so quickly turned on drago and rooted for rocky.That was not at all believeable.They would never have sided with rocky like that.

3rd.No originality.It was a total ripoff of rocky 3.In rocky 3,he goes and fights clubber lang because he feels guilty for causing the death of his trainer mickey,that if he had never pushed mickey into managing him one more time,mickey would still be alive. Thats something I remember the movie critics bashing this movie for was being such a copycat of rocky 3 with the death of appollo creed.Old news,we've already seen that before of rocky fighting an opponent because he feels guilty for causing his death since in both cases,he could have prevented it.Kinda reminded me of the star wars movie return of the jedi when the death star was blown up.It was de ju vu all over again.we've already seen that before.


too predicatble. By now,we all knew what the outcome of the fight would be,rocky always wins his fights in the end.No surprise there when he knocked out drago.Rocky 2 people were not sure what would happen when him and appollo went down and tried to get up.Rocky 3,yeah people knew he would beat mr t in the second fight but I think they had their doubts for at least a little while when he got knocked down twice in the second round and it looked like Mr T was going to take control again.

Rocky 4? Like I said,too many rocky movies had been made at that point that it suffered from predictability.It was predictable from the beginning of the fight to the end that eventually rocky would win in the end.I mean it was towards the end of the movie.No way was he going to lose to him.Far too predicatable.Which is why he should have ended it at 3.

the music got crappy by rocky 4. Living in america from james brown,not appropriate for a rocky movie even though the movie was russia vs the united states.sorry but that just doesnt work for a rocky flick unlike Eye of the tiger did for rocky 3.Rocky 3 is my second favorite because Eye of the tiger always inspired me and there were two fights in the film.plus as ivander holifield said when he was guest star watching all the rocky films when they showed them all not too long ago,it was the most realistic of them all because it showed how was a fighter gets on top of his game,he gets soft and stops training as hard as he did before and there is always some other fighter out there hungrier for the title than you are and eventually takes it from you.real life example.Mike tyson got too cocky and stopped training hard and buster douglas was more hungey for the titel and took it away from tyson.


But the biggest sin of all for Rocky 4 and the thing that made this movie so horribly unrealistic unlike the first 3 films was the believability factor.Remember in rocky 3 when Appollo and his trainer were watching film clips of rockys first fight with clubber lang where clubber knocked him out in the first round? I will never forget the words the trainer spoke to appollo which was -"damn that clubbers strong.we got to put him away early.I figure with clubbers strength and everything,rocky can last about 5 or 6 rounds at the most going toe to toe with clubber.we got to put him away early." fortunately for rocky he did.

According to appollo's trainer,he wisely knew that rocky could not survive that kind of punishment in the ring from clubber for more than 6 rounds,that he would be too strong for him to handle that long.


well remember in rocky 4 where the media was televising how strong drago was? they mentioned that the average fighter like -appollo and rocky,hit at about 85psi's,while drago would hit at like 195 psi's.


Lets see,according to appollos trainer,rocky would not have been able to survive in the ring from the beating of clubber lang-another average fighter,for more than 6 rounds.yet he somehow miraculously survives a beating from drago who hits a 100x's harder than clubber for "15" rounds? yeah right.that is horrible screenwriting at its worst.

Not only that,but when I said there are credible people out there who dont like rocky 4 because of how horribly unrealistic it was,I was referring to ivander holyfield.a former heavyweight title holder.He as well said what I knew along time ago when I was wacthing all the rocky films like 6 months ago or so on TNT,That rocky 4 was his least favorite film because it was so unrealistic.He like appollos trainer,said that rocky like appollo,woule NEVER have survived that beating he got from drago in the ring.He said that no human being alive could take that kind of beating and live,let alone last 15 rounds,that in real life,the referre would have stopped the fight a long time ago. that was always my biggest problem with rocky was that rocky like appoolo would have died as well from that fight.Ivander holyfield himself said that.

so if you want a rocky film that is realistic and believeable which I do,then rocky 1 through 3 are good films to watch.4 definetetly is not though.If you consider a rocky film like rocky 4 that is horribly unrealistic though a good movie though,then yeah, rocky 4 is the film for you to enjoy and watch then.

I myself though like rocky films that have some realisem in it so I will stick with rocky one through 3. smile

Mr Parker
Originally posted by AdventChild
You are so right.The Rocky movies started its downfall starting with Rocky 4.0ne through three were great but four sucked big time.I hate that one worse than 5.Unlike the first three,it was not at all believeable.Why the hell did Stallone have to go and make a rocky 4 and 5? The movies should have ended after three. i'm soooo mad I cant believe they are making a rocky 6 after rocky 4 and 5 were so stupid. when's it going to end i mean seriously..... this is getting old......stallone is old! geez! Rocky needs to just give it a rest...IMO BTW big grin

right on advent.very well said.you hit the nail right on the head.you are so right.

FirstBlood 4EVA
Please just let Rambo 4 begin production...

I would be happy with just rambo 4...

Mandorallen
Rambo 4: john rambo now rests at a retirement home, but the crazy man across the hall wont give him back rambo's teeth, and now ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE.

kanis
starwars Why is he even bothering I mean rocky he has brain damage and if he gets in the ring he will probably die but I've heard that he will be fighting mr T again.

T.M
Originally posted by Mandorallen
Rambo 4: john rambo now rests at a retirement home, but the crazy man across the hall wont give him back rambo's teeth, and now ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE.

laughing out loud

Solo
Anymore Rocky movies is just a plain bad idea.

Mainstream
Rocky 6: the retirement rumble.

Cringe
Oh my god!I shuddered when I heard Jay Bush on Access Hollywood say "it official" that a Rocky 6 is on its way.I am so mad.The last film only grossed 40 mil.What the hell makes him think people want to see another one?!

I swear im gonna protest this movie when it comes out!

Mandorallen
Rocky will be fighting a boxer named "Mason "the line" Dixon". which will most likely be played by vin diesel.

kanis
starwars He'll not fight vin diesel like i posted before he should not fight anymore.

spencerspider
If he does fight he will get the shit beat out of him..or he should

T.M
Rocky showed he could still fight at the end of the V'th movie.

although i still think this is a bad idea. I will probably end up watching it.

Fëanor
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Well, I call BS because "Rambo" is in pre-production, and there's no way he can do both movies at the same time.

The premise is ****ing hilarious. A 60 year old man playing the role of a comeback boxer. Sylvester Stallone either has no shame, or has no money. Maybe even a little of both. ahahahaha laughing

i think you've hit it on the nose (no pun intended)

Cringe
Rocky should FINALLY die in this film no expression

WindDancer
I agree with Mr Parker on the music for the last two Rocky films. They were crappy. Nothing beats that Eye of the Tiger tune. yes

Mandorallen
"gonna fly now"

yes

Cringe
"Ready to die now and not be able to make another stupid boxing movie for as long as I live"

yes

spencerspider
Rocky dies and Mr. T cheers lol

Cringe
Happy Dance

OB1-adobe
like a lot of people have been waiting for this movie to happen sick

Cringe
I know.

kanis
starwars I'm not going to see it no offense but sly left it to late its going to look cheesy just like arnie did T3

bakerboy
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Because it's an opinion, and I've always made it a point to claim it's an opinion. You tend to present your opinion as a fact. As always......

Dont be so annoying. My opinion isnt a fact, and all the people shows their opinion like some kind of fact, if not, the discussions wouldnt exist.

Cringe
jerry

SlickRick69
Why couldn't Sly continue the 'Home Team' theme from Rocky 5, and have Rocky Jr start coming up as a boxer?

Wouldn't that also be a way of completing the circle, with the 'new' Rocky Balboa as a scrapping young southpaw waiting for his big break, etc etc blah blah...

or have Rocky get his 60-year old brains bashed in, so Rocky Jr is compelled to step into the ring, seeking revenge... also a tie-in back to the past 'revenge-based' stories...

kanis
starwars I some how doubt it in rocky five he didn't want his kid to solve problems using his fists like he did he wanted his son to be better than he was to use his mind rather than his brawn.

lord krondor
By giving the nigga the name of Mason "The Line" Dixon, was a direct slap in the face to blackies. Not even Katrina hurt as much as what the Rock brought to the table.

LandShark
wow noone is posting anymore even though roy jones jr is gonna be in it?! must be another thread started or something right?

DarkWizard
Nope. Just nothing left to talk about really.

FirstBlood 4EVA
Rambo 4: john rambo now rests at a retirement home, but the crazy man across the hall wont give him back Rambo's teeth, and now ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE.

LOL..

"The line will actually be played by (Antonio Tarver) a real light heavyweight champ who is undefeated and in his prime" to add to more realism to the movie...
Basicaly Stallone is trying to make the fight scenes different than any other movie before..

I still think that Rambo 4 is the one to see...

hotwheels
Rocky is the MAN!

hot wheels

NinthSith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd02W_07qDA

enjoysmile

Buckaroo
Sweet. Thanks for posting that.

Dusty
Fan Made.

C-Dic
Regardless, it's actual footage. Sly looks old, but in shape, and it looks very modern which is surprising.

GODOFALL1
Rocky 4 was the best. "So the results are simple." "And what results are those?" Whatever he hits.......he destroys!"
Drago, "EHHHHHHH!"

Mr Parker
More like the worst.Thats what is so stupid about that horrible Rocky 4 is that quote-whatever he hits,he destroys,that was just beyond ludicrise to believe that any boxer would have been able to take that kind of punishment from Drago and live.As I mentioned earlier,even Ivander Hollifield said Rocky 4 is the one rocky movie he did not like because any real boxer would not have been able to take that kind of punishment from a boxer and live.That they would have died a long time ago from that kind of punishment and never lasted 15 rounds.

forumcrew
ivander hollifield? im goning to assume you mean Evander Holyfield. Its true that it would be far too much punishment. But the real issue is that Drago could hit that hard to begin with. The part when they show like the pounds per inch of pressure or however they showed it, he was hitting harder than possible by any human. Still this was still better than Rocky V

cking
I think that the the very first two were the best both were either four or three star movies while the rest received two stars which were fair movies.I don't it is a good idea to make another rocky movie because rocky five seemed to end on a decent note and to make another one would mess it up and would have a chain reaction of rocky movies trying to find an ending to the new rocky movie. the rocky movies had a plot and it ended when he finally called it quits in the last one over health reasons. some movies need to be left alone and to make another rocky movie is overkill just like making another Friday the 13th part 40 or something.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by forumcrew
ivander hollifield? im goning to assume you mean Evander Holyfield. Its true that it would be far too much punishment. But the real issue is that Drago could hit that hard to begin with. The part when they show like the pounds per inch of pressure or however they showed it, he was hitting harder than possible by any human. Still this was still better than Rocky V

Yeah thats what I meant.Evander Holyfield.thanks for the correcting me on that.Yeah thats why I have always hated Rocky 4 even worse so than 5 because of not only what I just mentioned but what you just mentioned as well.Rocky 5 was more realistic and believeable.It just doesnt deserve to be called Rocky.Still I liked it better than 4.The street fight was pretty entertaining and it was different.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by cking
I think that the the very first two were the best both were either four or three star movies while the rest received two stars which were fair movies.I don't it is a good idea to make another rocky movie because rocky five seemed to end on a decent note and to make another one would mess it up and would have a chain reaction of rocky movies trying to find an ending to the new rocky movie. the rocky movies had a plot and it ended when he finally called it quits in the last one over health reasons. some movies need to be left alone and to make another rocky movie is overkill just like making another Friday the 13th part 40 or something.

Yeah I agree with you.I mean they should not have allowed Stallone to make another Rocky film because like you said,Rocky 5 ended it on a decent note-still say it should have ended after 3 though.But yeah to try and find another ending to a new rocky movie would just start another chain reaction with another friday the 13th part 20 or halloween part 20.just leave it alone with him having health problems like he did.Let it go already.Stallone must be desperate for money,he hasnt made a film in years so I guess his thinking is the classic rocky movies will be a hit again. roll eyes (sarcastic)

C-Dic
Originally posted by Mr Parker
As I mentioned earlier,even Ivander Hollifield said Rocky 4 is the one rocky movie he did not like because any real boxer would not have been able to take that kind of punishment from a boxer and live.

...it's a ****ing movie...

.....
another rocky sweet i dont care wat any1 rekons stallones a champ when he wrote the first script he got offered like 25k for it and he refused it even though he was poor as shit, but i seriously doubt he will be boxing in it mabey he will be like the manager or something

office jesus
The only question I have....."Why God, why?"

cking
sometimes I wonder also.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by .....
another rocky sweet i dont care wat any1 rekons stallones a champ when he wrote the first script he got offered like 25k for it and he refused it even though he was poor as shit, but i seriously doubt he will be boxing in it mabey he will be like the manager or something

yeah that was when the guy had class.Instead of ending the movie as a triology though which would have been the right thing to do, he then got to the point where he did not care about making a good quality rocky film anymore and then got greedy and just started doing it for the money after Rocky 3.Thats when I lost my respect for him.btw its great to have an ignore list so I dont have to look at the insane posts of a certain poster who assumes because he likes 4 the best,that most rocky fans consider rocky 4 the best when everybody knows that most rocky fans consider the original easily the best.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by office jesus
The only question I have....."Why God, why?"

Because Stallone after Rocky 3,became a jerk and stopped caring about making good quality Rocky movies anymore and only cared about making more money for himself.Thats why. mad and he STILL hasnt changed even after all these years. mad

naty`sweet
bleah!!!rocky 6...god!will they get to rocky 12?hope not...hate that movie...and it continues till...silvester will be!100?doohh

cking
that would be something, 60 year rocky again fighting in the ring and they would have to wake up burgess Meredith from his grave to be his manager once again.

forumcrew
saw an actual real full trailer tonight when i saw POTC 2, looks about as good as i can hope for.

cking
or not hope for.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by naty`sweet
bleah!!!rocky 6...god!will they get to rocky 12?hope not...hate that movie...and it continues till...silvester will be!100?doohh

Yep sounds like as long as Stallone is alive he will keep making sequals till he is 100 and out there with a cane and turn it into another Halloween and friday the 13th mini series. laughingmaybe they will say that Burgess meridiths character Mickey has a brother now and he will become Rockys manager. laughing

forumcrew
i wonder if Antonio Tarver getting owned by Hopkins is gonna hurt his star power for this movie.

also now more is known about the plot, what do you guys think abot it?

For those that dont know, They do a virtual fight (looks like fight night round 3) between the current champ Mason "the line" Dixon (played by Tarver) and Rocky and in the simulation Rocky wins, and so People start wondering if Rock could really come back and beat him. Rocky decides he wants to fight again but just small time local stuff, and then of course he ends up fighting Mason.

Osaka
I'm looking forward to this movie. I hope it makes up for Rocky 5

cking
rocky 5 left on a decent note and the rocky series should end their. no need for rocky 6 when Stallone is 60 and burgess Meredith is dead. can't imagine a rocky movie without any of those characters.

forumcrew
rocky 5 was horrible.

cking
it wasn't horrible, there is alot more movies that horrible than that. they were just running out of ideas and there was not any easier way to end the rocky movies.

Koenig
Rocky 6 laughing out loud rolling on floor laughing laughing out loud

That is one film I will not see, how bloody stupid can you get. What a real dumb idea, that's scrapping the bottom of the barrel. mad2

forumcrew
7.8, 6.3, 5.7, 5.3, 4.0 Those are the Ratings out of a possible 10 for the first 5 Rocky movies in order (from the users of IMDB, which is the average of what every user thinks which for each of these is gonna be 10,000+ people. Its no coincidince that the score goes down every movie, and really plumits on 5.

Osaka
Hey I'm even looking forward to Rambo IV big grin

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/Reiko1/rambo4f.jpg

cking
is 60 year old rocky going to the star in it?

Osaka
Yeah

Mr Parker
Yep and its not to manage either.Believe it or not,he is going to fight again. laughing Maybe they will have Mickey have a son who is a trainer as well and he trains rocky. laughing

forumcrew
Originally posted by cking
is 60 year old rocky going to the star in it?

60 year old Sylvester Stallone is still playing Rocky, im not sure how old the character rocky will be at this point. I already outlined the plot if your looking for more 1 page back.

forumcrew
trailer (came out with POTC 2) http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/rockybalboa.html

cking
rocky in part 5 was in in early to mid forties, but i think in this one he is probably in his 50's. Stallone is finally starting to show his age much like Arnold in terminator 3, it seem unrealistic for a 50 year old to be fighting someone in their 20's. why is this generation fighter vs. that generation fighter and see who is the best anyway important? it looked ok but I wonder if they are going to have rocky fight when he is 70?

Osaka
Originally posted by cking
rocky in part 5 was in in early to mid forties, but i think in this one he is probably in his 50's. Stallone is finally starting to show his age much like Arnold in terminator 3, it seem unrealistic for a 50 year old to be fighting someone in their 20's. why is this generation fighter vs. that generation fighter and see who is the best anyway important? it looked ok but I wonder if they are going to have rocky fight when he is 70?

Wasn't there a boxer named gearge forman that fought up until his late 40s?

cking
I don't know probably, he was on fox sports southwest while back and that he was training to get back in the business despite he was 55 then but I haven't seen him fight on TV or he even seriously decided to do so.

forumcrew
Originally posted by cking
rocky in part 5 was in in early to mid forties, but i think in this one he is probably in his 50's. Stallone is finally starting to show his age much like Arnold in terminator 3, it seem unrealistic for a 50 year old to be fighting someone in their 20's. why is this generation fighter vs. that generation fighter and see who is the best anyway important? it looked ok but I wonder if they are going to have rocky fight when he is 70?

I dont think Antonio Tarver is playing a young 20's boxer. Tarver is almost 38 and an old boxer himself.

Originally posted by Osaka
Wasn't there a boxer named gearge forman that fought up until his late 40s?

That would be George Foreman
His last fight was in 1997 when he was 48, it was one of only 5 loses his entire career. He finished 76-5. Theres no way hes coming back now at age 57.

Evander Holyfield will turn 44 this year and had his last fight 2 years ago, and says he wants to come back.

Blaxican Hydra
This is frigan ridiculous. I didn't even liek the old movies, meh...

forumcrew
then i guess you wont like this one will you.

vader519
Geroge Foreman is the older man to ever win the Heavyweight Title at age 45. So Rocky can still do it. I really want to see this movie. I am a big fan of the movie series. Just out of curiousity, does anyone have or know of a place where I can get a downloadable link?

Osaka
On emule

cking
was 1997 the fight when George was over 300 pounds and his opponent was only 225. who was it that he fought?

forumcrew
Originally posted by cking
was 1997 the fight when George was over 300 pounds and his opponent was only 225. who was it that he fought?

The heaviest foreman ever fought at was 267 and that was in 1987. In his 2 fights in 97 he was 260 and 253, where he fought around a lot of his career.

Originally posted by vader519
Geroge Foreman is the older man to ever win the Heavyweight Title at age 45. So Rocky can still do it. I really want to see this movie. I am a big fan of the movie series. Just out of curiousity, does anyone have or know of a place where I can get a downloadable link?

Boxing is confusing to a lot of people because of the ambiguity of the word "champion" There are lots of belts out there, most of which are bum belts that mean nothing. There are 3 high regarded championships. The WBA, WBC, and IBF. George did manage to hold 2 of these late in his career. (one was vacant the other he won of a proven fighter but not exactly off stellar competition) He was also stripped of both belts within a few months for refusal to defend it.

But yea competition is a big part about boxing. Heavweights arnt what they used to be, the real talent is in the lower weights now a days, which is why someone like foreman could win at 45. In Rocky 6 if Mason is supposed to be a great champion then its unreal an old guy could win. If Mason just happens to be the best of the bums out at the time, its plausable.

From what I have heard about the plot Mason isnt liked or respected because he only defends his belts against low level, low risk oponents.

also downloading movies is illegeal so the mods arnt gonna like people helping you with it on here.

vader519
I was asking a link for to the trailer, not movies. I never download movies off the net. I always support the movies, even though it is expensive these days. I just forgot to put trailer in my post. I do know the rules, I been on these boards for a while now. I agree with what you said about Foreman, you are right.

forumcrew
Originally posted by vader519
I was asking a link for to the trailer, not movies. I never download movies off the net. I always support the movies, even though it is expensive these days. I just forgot to put trailer in my post. I do know the rules, I been on these boards for a while now. I agree with what you said about Foreman, you are right.

sorry i thought you were looking for a link for the old rocky movies, heres the link for the trailer (it was posted above)

Originally posted by forumcrew
trailer (came out with POTC 2) http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/rockybalboa.html

vader519
I already saw that link yesterday. I am looking for a link where I can download the trailer and save it to my computer. Thanks for helping me anyways, and its cool. I know I forgot to say I needed a link for the trailer. I have all Rocky movies already.

Face
Stallone is acting and directing Rocky its gonna be a knockout

cking
is that a 100% guarantee?

jimmy82
rocky 6's gonna be good. say what u may but the trailer is showing some good stuff. and stallone's really gotta bust his ass this time to win cuz he's gettin up there so it's gonna be a good come from behind story i think.

Impediment
It's nice of you to tell us this, you lunatic. Next time, howzabout adding the trailer, huh? Or would you rather we close our eyes and use the unlimited power of our imagination and picture the new Rocky movie, huh?

cking
naughty words. no

forumcrew
theres a thread about rocky 6, where the trailer was linked to over a week ago.. why did you make this when i know you know that thread exists.

tabby999
i wonder if they'll make Rocky 7 and name it Adrian's Revenge, the simpsons set it up so nicely for them it'd be a shame to waste it

Dusty
Merged.

Bicnarok
Originally posted by C-Dic


The premise is ****ing hilarious. A 60 year old man playing the role of a comeback boxer. .....

Totally agree, pathetic!

cking
60 year old rocky is going to win for real!!!!

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Totally agree, pathetic!

yep.Stallone obviously is desperate for money to sink THIS low to make ANOTHER Rocky film.

forumcrew
Originally posted by tabby999
i wonder if they'll make Rocky 7 and name it Adrian's Revenge, the simpsons set it up so nicely for them it'd be a shame to waste it

adrianne is dead at the start of 6

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