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Ok one Ultimate Warrior vs the main fighters in Soul Calibur 1 in hand to hand combat.

Nightmare, Edgemaster and Inferno would kill him one on one...

Agreed.

seeing as they all take damage from weapons I would of though MC plasma sword would cut though them...

mc plasma sword would never cut though the soul calibur

because.....???

Im not sure.. but I think the wielder of the blade has to be defeated to weaken the blade itself.. it feeds off of the souls of the enemies it has vanquished.. it also includes the soul of the user.. so basically you are fighting the souls of many as opposed to the illuding form of its current user

I cant wait to see seigfried confront nightmare in SC3.. thats gonna be so awesome..

yes but in the game a skilled warrior can beat the wielder of soul calibur... Seeing as chief is greater then any normal human, + a insta kill sword I think he could take most... He also has the advantage of range... Spawn could take him (if he gets all his normal abillites, not soul calibur spawn thou)

if we went by purely game rules, I think there would be alot of parrying going on hehe. He and the characters would basically be on even ground...

well then its anyones game....

I like how the assumptions is made that Master Chief comes equipped with alien plasma weaponry when he's a human being.

Yer perhaps he could come without his suit aswell!... Its a weapon in the game! humans captured all the alien weapons before halo 1... they were experimenting with them and how to use them....

And yet Master Chief starts with almot exclusively human weapons. In particular, they are more effective against the Covenant... Plasma weapons take down shields faster, but human bullets pack more punch post-shield. This is evident in game.

Samus also has plasma type weapons which can nerf his shield and ballistic missiles which can then after blow his ass up. Plus, she is much more agile; the speeds we see MC move at are lower than earth gravity (Halo 1) and earth's gravity (Halo 2). Tack on the fact that Samus has Chozo blood running in her veins and a suit made by them (They were the most advanced race in the galaxy before their decline) and she has a very good chance of beating Master Chief's ass.

And punching walls won't do shit to someone who has long range speciality and speed.

Where did Samus come into this

Anyways, if he were in an SC game, he would porbably come with the plasma sword just because it's the only really melee based weapon in Halo 2/1.

hand to hand combat ? well i dont think any of the soul calibur dood actauly fite H2H exept for da Xeption of heihatchi but thats bout it but he not in soul numba 1 soo i dont think they kan use soul calibur ....

Originally posted by Deus Ex
And yet Master Chief starts with almot exclusively human weapons. In particular, they are more effective against the Covenant... Plasma weapons take down shields faster, but human bullets pack more punch post-shield. This is evident in game.

Samus also has plasma type weapons which can nerf his shield and ballistic missiles which can then after blow his ass up. Plus, she is much more agile; the speeds we see MC move at are lower than earth gravity (Halo 1) and earth's gravity (Halo 2). Tack on the fact that Samus has Chozo blood running in her veins and a suit made by them (They were the most advanced race in the galaxy before their decline) and she has a very good chance of beating Master Chief's ass.

And punching walls won't do shit to someone who has long range speciality and speed.

Wrong thread fool.....

Oops. I coulda swore I was in the other thread. Well, thanks for the "fool" line, geni-ass. You couldn't debate your way out of an open paper bag, and here you are slinging insults.

You made a foolish mistake... I called you a fool for it, thats all... It an approperite use of the correct word... I wouldn't need to debate my way out of it, I would just step out of it... is that what you do when your stuck??? debate...

Yeah, debate whether or not I should exit the bag.

Ok The Soul calibur team has there weapons with exception of any energy weapons and MC has this pick of any mid evil weapons like Hammer Sword Daggers mace bow and arrows clubs two of them by the way no energy weapons.

If schrapnel and the like can drain Chief's shields, so can melee weaponry. Having the whole crew on his back will be rough.

Is MC crippled as well??

Considering that Master Chief in his suit has never displayed feats of speed in a gravity hold weaker than that of earth, it would be foolish to assume he was faster than some of the swordsmen and women from the Soul Caliber/Blade series. It would likely be a battle of attrition, and he would eventually go down, unless the metal on his suit is suddenly +50 versus earth metal. And Rock's hammer will hurt like hell.

Plus, I don't recall MC ever having proper melee sword or axe combat.

his reactions are instantaneously.... combined with his regen shield, he could take a beating... hes also much stronger then most of them aswell...

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
his reactions are instantaneously.... combined with his regen shield, he could take a beating... hes also much stronger then most of them aswell...

Problem with this is the reactions of a group of skilled fighters > instant reactions in a clumsy heavy suit.

His shield can be beaten down by several attacks, and is vulnerable to metal since schrapnel and bullets harm him.

No cited evidence of the durability of his shield.

Strength won't help him when he's being beaten like a red-headed step child.

First chief isn't clumsy... he describes the suit like hes wearing nothing... it works perfectly with him... Hes got the fastest reactions of the lot.. combined with a lot of strength that would KO people easy... Hes also quicker then them running... His shield requires 2 hits from a sharp object from a man of equal strength to chief...

hes trained with weaponry, so hes going to be ok with most weapons... hes also a great strategist... so I think he could probably take quite a few out...

Is this a 1 on 1 fight though the list? or all vs 1??

Very fanboyish post. Words like "Wears it like nothing" "It works perfectly" and "fastest reactions" etc. with no cited proof are hardcore proof that you, sir, are a bloody fanboy using hyperbole.

Masterchief puts a bullet in their heads. GG.

Inferno still kicks his ass. Nightmare would fair evenly, and Astaroth would probably overpower him easily. so In one on one thosew 3 stand a good chance.

If we are talking about the whole SC cast ganging up on this one lonely Uber Spartan, all I can say is a weapon equipped dogpile spells Doomed Johnny

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Inferno still kicks his ass. Nightmare would fair evenly, and Astaroth would probably overpower him easily. so In one on one thosew 3 stand a good chance.

If we are talking about the whole SC cast ganging up on this one lonely Uber Spartan, all I can say is a weapon equipped dogpile spells Doomed Johnny

They have no answer to a well placed bullet to the head...GG

You want an answer to that? Ok then.

Inferno: Bullets won't even touch him, he's made of fire and lightning... YUS!

Nightmare: Solid Steel helmet and armour thats demonically enchanted... YUS!

Astaroth: He's undead, he's been stabbed, shot and blasted before, and still walks, nothing new... YUS!

lmfao!

Originally posted by Deus Ex
Very fanboyish post. Words like "Wears it like nothing" "It works perfectly" and "fastest reactions" etc. with no cited proof are hardcore proof that you, sir, are a bloody fanboy using hyperbole.

what are you talking about.... quoting from the book, doesn't make me a fanboy... I haven't hyperbole'd up his power...

If ya had read the books you would realise that his reactions are instant, and hes not an oaf in a metal suit....
Stop slingin "fanboy" around all the time.... n00b

Actually, I read Fall of Reach and part of the second book The Flood, and I still think you need to look up the definition of hyperbole. If Master Chief's reactions were instant, he would not have time to think of any of his combat actions. This would go against all that battle training he had in the first book, since if you can't think yo recollect, how can you outduel a group full of martial specialists with enchanted weapons?

Answer me that one?

some one needs to re-read.... or try to understand... his body got upgraded....

Advanced carbide ceramic material grafted onto bones to increase durability
Protein complex injections to increase muscle density and lower recovery time
Body growth hormone pellet injections to boost skeletal and muscle tissue growth
Occipital capillary reversal to increase blood flow to the eyes, resulting in enhanced vision
Superconducting fibers added to nerve endings, resulting in 300% increase in reflexes and increases in intelligence, memory, and creativity.

Do I need to go on?

Wow, you are a gullible little Master Chief fanboy aren't you? Did you go into your room and fish out the book just to refute the bad marks on MC's honor at KMC? lol

Show me how advanced carbide -ceramic- makes Master Chief resistant to enchanted blade weapons and maces, etc.

Show me the exact effects of the protein complex injections... How much more dense? How lower the recovery time?

How much is the growth? How does exceptional sight help him fight enemies all around him?

What were his original reflexes before he got a 300 % increase? How does this make him faster than a group full of people?

Yes, you need go on. INstead of engaging in the fanboyish trend of "feat wars" you should build a cohesive argument based on points of interest from both sides before declaring a victor...

If you can.

Are you serious??? Your asking me how ceramic bones make him more resistant.... from enchanted weapons.... LOL!!!! do you even think when you post???

hang on.... its science fiction! I don't need to know... it just is... some of it based a bit on science fact! most on fiction!

Your getting desperate if you asking me to prove how it works... its not a feat war... that is what chief had done to him...

The fact that on 2 separate occasions describes him seeing the world in slow motion and is able to woop soldiers... seeing them fighting in slow motion would be a great help...(avoiding blows and parrying) hes strength means he would probably do more damage to them then he would take... He would take less damage from them due to his increased durability... I can't believe I have to spell this out to you....

lmao

Fanboy. You get reeled in every time.

"OMFG I don't have to explain how it works!"

So this runs on the belief system, eh? Fine. I believe the Pope can **** Master Chief up. And since I am using the fictional Battle Pope, he can do it because it's based on fiction!

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your asking me to prove that science fiction can work... while not doing soo yourself...

and you call me a fanboy....

Soul Calibur isn't science fiction, dude. It's fantasy. Oooo... No proof required, eh? Soul calibur traps Master Chief's soul! What now? Does hsi uber ceramic skeleton and enhanced aim, etc. save his soul from a demonic weapon???

Stay tuned for Hit and Miss' next fanboyish post, in five.

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"Fantasy is fiction that features elements of magic, wizardry, supernatural feats, and entities that suspend conventions of realism in the literary arts. Fantasy can resemble prose versions of epics and rhymes, may be informed by mythic cycles or folkloric material derived from cultures worldwide. Fantasy fiction may be guided primarily by the author's own distinctive imagery and personalized archetypes. ..."

"Fantastic stories in which scientific discoveries, space travel, life on other planets, or environmental changes form part of the plot. They are fiction."

Hmmmm Sooo there both fiction... so it doesn't need proof either!!!

wow... that was easy...

You suck in debates. Go play Halo or something.

I'm sorry did your point just get crushed sooo bad you had to resort to insulting....

Wow...

Are you serious? Do you think you won the match or something? You really are ignorant.

If you're gonna use a cop-out and say "omg it's fiction, no explanations needed!" you're basically telling me you don't have to argue those points you brought up in relevance to how MC would win this fight. You didn't even come close. I don't think you understand the concept.

Let's use something more straightforward. Feel free to look up any words that are too big for your small mind:

Master Chief is alone. He has a melee weapon, perhaps a sword or axe.

He is surrounded by the entire case of Soul Calibur. This includes demons, magical constructs, spirits, spirit hunters, ninjas, knights, martial artists, fencers, magicians, etc.

How does any of that ridiculous hyperbole bullshit you posted -make- him win this fight?

Or are you unwilling to put some order and focus into your argument.

My impression, ladies and gentlemen, of Hit and Miss:

"He is perfect in every way! He wins cuz I think he does! Yay! I win! It's all fiction; I don't have to prove or elaborate on a single thing! Yay! Noobs rule!"

Please, stfu and come back when your balls drop and you learn some rational thought.

"Are you serious? Do you think you won the match or something? You really are ignorant."

No your point got crushed... I need to prove every little thing... while all you said is they got magic weapons!

"If you're gonna use a cop-out and say "omg it's fiction, no explanations needed!" you're basically telling me you don't have to argue those points you brought up in relevance to how MC would win this fight. You didn't even come close. I don't think you understand the concept."

1) I haven't said MC would win... I don't think he would beat them all.. but he could beat alot...

2) No one answered me if it was 1 on 1 Or 1 vs all...

"Master Chief is alone. He has a melee weapon, perhaps a sword or axe. He is surrounded by the entire case of Soul Calibur. This includes demons, magical constructs, spirits, spirit hunters, ninjas, knights, martial artists, fencers, magicians, etc."

MC would beat alot of those.... I haven't shouted "MC PWNS ALL!!!" I simpily said MC could beat some... You just love calling me a fanboy too much to stop and read what I've said....

"How does any of that ridiculous hyperbole bullshit you posted -make- him win this fight?"

Its not a hyperbole.... its from an offical book, (which you have...) and hasn't been taken out of context or manipulated....

"He is perfect in every way! He wins cuz I think he does! Yay! I win! It's all fiction; I don't have to prove or elaborate on a single thing! Yay! Noobs rule!"

Nice exageration there... For someone who tells me to grow up you sure do a great impression of arguing like a kid all the way though these debates...

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
I am a bloody moron.

Yeah, I thought so.

you gonner debate seriously or just keep flaming???

kan we all stop fightin ? u dont wana turn this into jus like that that weirdo woo rads a C-masta rite soo jus stop fight k ?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You want an answer to that? Ok then.

Inferno: Bullets won't even touch him, he's made of fire and lightning... YUS!

Nightmare: Solid Steel helmet and armour thats demonically enchanted... YUS!

Astaroth: He's undead, he's been stabbed, shot and blasted before, and still walks, nothing new... YUS!

MC can bring a firehose or something and defeat inferno.

MC can rip nightmares helmet off AND THEN blow his head off.

I doubt even a zombie can survive losing their head, and even if he did he would lose all intelligent functions and MC would slowly dice him up with his plasma blade.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
MC can bring a firehose or something and defeat inferno.

MC can rip nightmares helmet off AND THEN blow his head off.

I doubt even a zombie can survive losing their head, and even if he did he would lose all intelligent functions and MC would slowly dice him up with his plasma blade.

Ok, I hate to say this, but thats not a very intelligent argument at all.

A firehose? Righto... Inferno's flames are eternal, you can't put out ethereal flames with a hose... besides, why the hell would he bring a hose with him into battle? Moving on...

MC rips off Nightmares helmet... 2 things, one, the armour is fused to him. 2, He has got to get close enough without beig dismembered and decapityated by a huge, heavy, enchanted sword... Next.

As i've said, Astaroth's survived worse than a mere bullet to the face... Being an Animated, Magically enchganted frankenstein type monster has it's advantages...

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Ok, I hate to say this, but thats not a very intelligent argument at all.

A firehose? Righto... Inferno's flames are eternal, you can't put out ethereal flames with a hose... besides, why the hell would he bring a hose with him into battle? Moving on...

MC rips off Nightmares helmet... 2 things, one, the armour is fused to him. 2, He has got to get close enough without beig dismembered and decapityated by a huge, heavy, enchanted sword... Next.

As i've said, Astaroth's survived worse than a mere bullet to the face... Being an Animated, Magically enchganted frankenstein type monster has it's advantages...


1.That was joke...this guy shouldnt count, if hes made of this 'eternal flame' you speak of then how does one defeat him?


2.Okay fine, this guy has holes in his helmet right? He has to see correct? MC puts a perfectly placed shot right in the hole boom there goes his head.

3.He still uses his brain correct? Hes not much use without it correct? GG...

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
1.That was joke...this guy shouldnt count, if hes made of this 'eternal flame' you speak of then how does one defeat him?


2.Okay fine, this guy has holes in his helmet right? He has to see correct? MC puts a perfectly placed shot right in the hole boom there goes his head.

3.He still uses his brain correct? Hes not much use without it correct? GG...

My bad, didn't think you where joking...

1. The Soul Calibur is one way tyo defeat him, it's energies are the antithesis of the Soul Edge. Specific enchanted weapons also work, like Sophitia's sword andf shiled, Kilik's staff (The Kali Yuga), Taki's weapons
and Xianghua's sword to name a few weapons that can defeat Inferno.

2. Blocked by the Soul Edge. Or Nightmare ducks, Moves, Weaves. The chances of MC Landing a hit in the eyepeices of Nightmare's Armour is smaller than you think against such an experienced (And demonically enhanced) opponent.

3. He'll be reformed in a matter of hours. Astaroth has the favour of the God of War behind him. (The God of War seeks to take Soul Edge back with him, and uses Astaroth to fulfill this deed.)

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
My bad, didn't think you where joking...

1. The Soul Calibur is one way tyo defeat him, it's energies are the antithesis of the Soul Edge. Specific enchanted weapons also work, like Sophitia's sword andf shiled, Kilik's staff (The Kali Yuga), Taki's weapons
and Xianghua's sword to name a few weapons that can defeat Inferno.

2. Blocked by the Soul Edge. Or Nightmare ducks, Moves, Weaves. The chances of MC Landing a hit in the eyepeices of Nightmare's Armour is smaller than you think against such an experienced (And demonically enhanced) opponent.

3. He'll be reformed in a matter of hours. Astaroth has the favour of the God of War behind him. (The God of War seeks to take Soul Edge back with him, and uses Astaroth to fulfill this deed.)


1.Well if we allow MC to have one of these weapons for the sake of fairness than Im confident masterchief could defeat this inferno, I havent played SC in like forever but I believe the people that defeated him were mere human martial artists correct? MC is much more than human, if you read the fall of reach you will see he has incredible strength and agility already without his armor, add the mjolnir II which gives more power to his already formiddable skills plus the energy shields=unstoppable. Oh and he has cortana to give him a tactical assessment of the situation if he should need it.


2.Do you understand that MC has perfect accuracy due to his numerous enhancements? Placing a shot right in nightmares eye is childs play.


3.He wont have hours to reform, MC with his plasma sword will disinigrate every last piece of him till theres nothing left. And whats this war god? So now he needs help from a god? Weak...

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
3.He wont have hours to reform, MC with his plasma sword will disinigrate every last piece of him till theres nothing left. And whats this war god? So now he needs help from a god? Weak...

he doesnt 'need'... he has no soul... he's a puppet wrought from greed that will stop at nothing to complete his task.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
3. He'll be reformed in a matter of hours. Astaroth has the favour of the God of War behind him. (The God of War seeks to take Soul Edge back with him, and uses Astaroth to fulfill this deed.)

still if he got put down an hour, its long enough for a KO

Pathetic.

Mc < Group of Skilled and magical enemies.

what weapons are all of the soul calibur 1 chars using???

Even their basic weapons can do serious damage. Cervantes uses the Soul Edge itself, as does Nightmare.

Astaroth's axe is bigger than MC's body.

I think it would take about 3/4 good hits to take his shield down... and 2/3 more hits to kill him...

Go and count the number of people in Soul Calibur.

how many is there...

Are there. How many are there.

Sheesh... where'd you learn English?

erm.... how pedantic are you??? Do you not like answering questions or do you just like to try and constantly point out minor faults in others??

second time....

How many "are" there in this fight???

Title reads "Master Cheif vs. The Fighters of Soul Calibur 1".

Sans the typo, that's the name of the game. A modification was made for MC to have medieval weaponry. Now, if you're too ****ing lazy to google soul calibur and check up on these people you think MC could pwn, that's sad.

Where have I said MC could PWN all of them???? you just love calling me fanboy too much to stop and actually read and comprehend what people say! Whats said is you can't debate in a sensible manner.. You have to swear and run you mouth all the way though..

Hes only fighting 10 peeps (I believe)... quite a few of them are not really that hard to beat... a few of the more interesting chars might pose a challenge... I'm reading the bio's of them now...

Still no one has said if hes fighting them sequentially or all together...

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
his reactions are instantaneously.... combined with his regen shield, he could take a beating... hes also much stronger then most of them aswell...

You sure didn't make an effort to say he wouldn't win. And in any case, if you thought MC would lose, even eventually, why are you still here arguing on his behalf?

Are you like Bardock42, and feel the need to "stick up" for some character and then claim you're not a fanboy? Please. Boring.

I debated that MC wasn't going to loose as bad as you say... and to see what others thought... no one even said if they were fighting 1 on 1 or all on 1...

If its 1 on 1 I think theres only 3/4 who would be a challenge...

Perhaps debating with me and bardock might be boring to a troll like you... why don't you go back to bashing wolvie fanboys... they might be a bit more interesting for you to scream "OMG WHAT A FANBOI! 111ELLLLSEVeN!!111!¬"

no one even said if they were fighting 1 on 1 or all on 1

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Nightmare, Edgemaster and Inferno would kill him one on one...

apparently some people feel that even 1 on 1 would be a bad idea for chief

I have 2 more to add to that list, Astaroth and Certvantes.

Cervantes especially. Guy is hard. Too bad in SC II his motion capture actor was terribly nonambidextrous.

Guys you forgot MC has halo...one use and he blows up everyone. Then he gathers the 5 dragonballs and wished himself back to life thus sealing his inevitable victory.

you just ... combined like 4 universes to grant chief a victory.. no wonder you like capcom..

MC would more then likely just tear threw all of them, I would like to see MC get his ass beat, but a bunch of dudes with swords running at a guy with an M16..... I predict very quick, and VERY bloody

The only one that might be able to soak the bullets is Nightmare, but I still doubt even he could..

Cortana: "Some crazy guy is try to charge you with a medieval pointy metal stick."

Cortana: "I bet you can't stick them."

Master Cheif pulls out a plasma grenade.

Master Cheif:"You're on."

Originally posted by golem370
Ok one Ultimate Warrior vs the main fighters in Soul Calibur 1 in hand to hand combat.


"Hand to Hand combat" no m16's.. no plasma grenades...I believe he's allowed a sword of equal value to the soul calibur'ists.. noone has clarified it though

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
"Hand to Hand combat" no m16's.. no plasma grenades...I believe he's allowed a sword of equal value to the soul calibur'ists.. noone has clarified it though

Well considering the chief can roll tanks over with ease, I'd still say he has a fair chance.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
"Hand to Hand combat" no m16's.. no plasma grenades...I believe he's allowed a sword of equal value to the soul calibur'ists.. noone has clarified it though

Oh, well in that case I go with Soul Calibur ..

Originally posted by golem370
Ok one Ultimate Warrior vs the main fighters in Soul Calibur 1 in hand to hand combat.
The entire team? They'd smash MC to the ground. Too one-sided.

I'd have to say that Master Chief would probably beat most, if not all of the human fighters, and that's only if he took them on one after another. (that is to say the whole soul calibur team would kill him pretty fast if they worked together) Let's look at the evidence...

1) guns are better than swords (range means you don't have to be close to your opponent to kill them, and since most, if not all, of the fighters in soul calibur focus on close combat, that makes sense to me)

2) in soul calibur, despite the player's abilities, all of the characters have an even potential for fighting(if they weren't equal the game wouldn't be fair) that means IN GAME master chief is equal. Taken out of the game, given his full arsenal of weapons, he'd probably kill most of the human fighters without and harm to himself. As for the soul calibur fighters' "magical powers" in their weapons/skills, some would say that they could simply dodge Master Chief's bullets. However, the soul calibur characters beat each other down in the game, which means that some of them can't even dodge a sword/axe/hammer. So with this in mind they obviously couldn't dodge bullets.

overall I think it'd be a close match(one on one), but master chief would win against human fighters, and possibly(but not likely) the non-human fighters.

MC is faster, stronger, and more endurant than all of them put together, but he cant hurt Inferno with normal weapons, so he kills all the others and then is stuck fighting inferno till he passes out and inferno hits him forever because he cant get through the armor